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moonsnow
December 28th, 2010, 06:34 PM
Hello everyone,

I am a newbie have recently decided to install Ubuntu 10.04 on my laptop. I installed it on a new empty 640 GB external hard drive and let Ubuntu set up a 160 GB filesystem on it so my Windows installation would remain safe no matter what. During installation, it was listed as "sdb" and the boot loader was also installed on it. The installation went fine. However, when I tried to boot Ubuntu, the screen was black and said "unknown filesystem" followed by the GRUB rescue prompt on the following line. I have tried to do this several times in the past and each time I run into this same problem. I have looked around on this forum, and have tried several suggested solutions, but they do not fix my problem, such as running the following commands in the terminal:



sudo fdisk -l
sudo mount -t ext4 /dev/sdb1/ /dev/sdb
sudo grub-install --root-directory=/mnt/ /dev/sdbThat did not fix my problem. I also noticed that there can be problems with booting from certain distances from the front or the end of a drive and the Boot Info Script seems to be very beneficial to solving boot problems so here are the results:



Boot Info Script 0.55 dated February 15th, 2010

============================= Boot Info Summary: ==============================

=> Windows is installed in the MBR of /dev/sda
=> Grub 2 is installed in the MBR of /dev/sdb and looks on the same drive in
partition #1 for /boot/grub.

sda1: __________________________________________________ _______________________

File system: ntfs
Boot sector type: Windows Vista/7
Boot sector info: No errors found in the Boot Parameter Block.
Operating System:
Boot files/dirs: /bootmgr /boot/bcd

sda2: __________________________________________________ _______________________

File system: ntfs
Boot sector type: Windows Vista/7
Boot sector info: No errors found in the Boot Parameter Block.
Operating System: Windows Vista
Boot files/dirs: /bootmgr /Boot/BCD /Windows/System32/winload.exe

sdb1: __________________________________________________ _______________________

File system: ext4
Boot sector type: -
Boot sector info:
Operating System: Ubuntu 10.04.1 LTS
Boot files/dirs: /boot/grub/grub.cfg /etc/fstab /boot/grub/core.img

sdb2: __________________________________________________ _______________________

File system: Extended Partition
Boot sector type: -
Boot sector info:

sdb5: __________________________________________________ _______________________

File system: ntfs
Boot sector type: Windows XP
Boot sector info: According to the info in the boot sector, sdb5 starts
at sector 63.
Operating System:
Boot files/dirs:

sdb6: __________________________________________________ _______________________

File system: swap
Boot sector type: -
Boot sector info:

=========================== Drive/Partition Info: =============================

Drive: sda ___________________ __________________________________________________ ___

Disk /dev/sda: 250.1 GB, 250059350016 bytes
255 heads, 63 sectors/track, 30401 cylinders, total 488397168 sectors
Units = sectors of 1 * 512 = 512 bytes
Sector size (logical/physical): 512 bytes / 512 bytes

Partition Boot Start End Size Id System

/dev/sda1 2,048 17,299,455 17,297,408 27 Hidden HPFS/NTFS
/dev/sda2 * 17,299,456 488,395,119 471,095,664 7 HPFS/NTFS


Drive: sdb ___________________ __________________________________________________ ___

Disk /dev/sdb: 640.1 GB, 640135028736 bytes
255 heads, 63 sectors/track, 77825 cylinders, total 1250263728 sectors
Units = sectors of 1 * 512 = 512 bytes
Sector size (logical/physical): 512 bytes / 512 bytes

Partition Boot Start End Size Id System

/dev/sdb1 937,428,992 1,250,263,039 312,834,048 83 Linux
/dev/sdb2 * 16,126 937,428,991 937,412,866 5 Extended
/dev/sdb5 16,128 924,108,408 924,092,281 7 HPFS/NTFS
/dev/sdb6 924,108,800 937,428,991 13,320,192 82 Linux swap / Solaris


blkid -c /dev/null: __________________________________________________ __________

Device UUID TYPE LABEL

/dev/loop0 squashfs
/dev/sda1 6A02839A02836A41 ntfs Recovery
/dev/sda2 AC1C474E1C4712AE ntfs
/dev/sda: PTTYPE="dos"
/dev/sdb1 19fd2248-be65-4a33-9c84-29aadf0f380b ext4
/dev/sdb2: PTTYPE="dos"
/dev/sdb5 2BBE654529E33D97 ntfs FreeAgent Drive
/dev/sdb6 3bda01b2-9e55-4d7f-8314-fa5a648affee swap
/dev/sdb: PTTYPE="dos"

============================ "mount | grep ^/dev output: ===========================

Device Mount_Point Type Options

aufs / aufs (rw)
/dev/sr0 /cdrom iso9660 (ro,noatime)
/dev/loop0 /rofs squashfs (ro,noatime)
/dev/sdb1 /media/19fd2248-be65-4a33-9c84-29aadf0f380b ext4 (rw,nosuid,nodev,uhelper=udisks)
/dev/sdb5 /media/FreeAgent Drive fuseblk (rw,nosuid,nodev,allow_other,blksize=4096,default_ permissions)


=========================== sdb1/boot/grub/grub.cfg: ===========================

#
# DO NOT EDIT THIS FILE
#
# It is automatically generated by /usr/sbin/grub-mkconfig using templates
# from /etc/grub.d and settings from /etc/default/grub
#

### BEGIN /etc/grub.d/00_header ###
if [ -s $prefix/grubenv ]; then
load_env
fi
set default="0"
if [ ${prev_saved_entry} ]; then
set saved_entry=${prev_saved_entry}
save_env saved_entry
set prev_saved_entry=
save_env prev_saved_entry
set boot_once=true
fi

function savedefault {
if [ -z ${boot_once} ]; then
saved_entry=${chosen}
save_env saved_entry
fi
}

function recordfail {
set recordfail=1
if [ -n ${have_grubenv} ]; then if [ -z ${boot_once} ]; then save_env recordfail; fi; fi
}
insmod ext2
set root='(hd1,1)'
search --no-floppy --fs-uuid --set 19fd2248-be65-4a33-9c84-29aadf0f380b
if loadfont /usr/share/grub/unicode.pf2 ; then
set gfxmode=640x480
insmod gfxterm
insmod vbe
if terminal_output gfxterm ; then true ; else
# For backward compatibility with versions of terminal.mod that don't
# understand terminal_output
terminal gfxterm
fi
fi
insmod ext2
set root='(hd1,1)'
search --no-floppy --fs-uuid --set 19fd2248-be65-4a33-9c84-29aadf0f380b
set locale_dir=($root)/boot/grub/locale
set lang=en
insmod gettext
if [ ${recordfail} = 1 ]; then
set timeout=-1
else
set timeout=10
fi
### END /etc/grub.d/00_header ###

### BEGIN /etc/grub.d/05_debian_theme ###
set menu_color_normal=white/black
set menu_color_highlight=black/light-gray
### END /etc/grub.d/05_debian_theme ###

### BEGIN /etc/grub.d/10_linux ###
menuentry 'Ubuntu, with Linux 2.6.32-24-generic' --class ubuntu --class gnu-linux --class gnu --class os {
recordfail
insmod ext2
set root='(hd1,1)'
search --no-floppy --fs-uuid --set 19fd2248-be65-4a33-9c84-29aadf0f380b
linux /boot/vmlinuz-2.6.32-24-generic root=UUID=19fd2248-be65-4a33-9c84-29aadf0f380b ro quiet splash
initrd /boot/initrd.img-2.6.32-24-generic
}
menuentry 'Ubuntu, with Linux 2.6.32-24-generic (recovery mode)' --class ubuntu --class gnu-linux --class gnu --class os {
recordfail
insmod ext2
set root='(hd1,1)'
search --no-floppy --fs-uuid --set 19fd2248-be65-4a33-9c84-29aadf0f380b
echo 'Loading Linux 2.6.32-24-generic ...'
linux /boot/vmlinuz-2.6.32-24-generic root=UUID=19fd2248-be65-4a33-9c84-29aadf0f380b ro single
echo 'Loading initial ramdisk ...'
initrd /boot/initrd.img-2.6.32-24-generic
}
### END /etc/grub.d/10_linux ###

### BEGIN /etc/grub.d/20_memtest86+ ###
menuentry "Memory test (memtest86+)" {
insmod ext2
set root='(hd1,1)'
search --no-floppy --fs-uuid --set 19fd2248-be65-4a33-9c84-29aadf0f380b
linux16 /boot/memtest86+.bin
}
menuentry "Memory test (memtest86+, serial console 115200)" {
insmod ext2
set root='(hd1,1)'
search --no-floppy --fs-uuid --set 19fd2248-be65-4a33-9c84-29aadf0f380b
linux16 /boot/memtest86+.bin console=ttyS0,115200n8
}
### END /etc/grub.d/20_memtest86+ ###

### BEGIN /etc/grub.d/30_os-prober ###
menuentry "Windows Vista (loader) (on /dev/sda1)" {
insmod ntfs
set root='(hd0,1)'
search --no-floppy --fs-uuid --set 6a02839a02836a41
chainloader +1
}
menuentry "Windows Vista (loader) (on /dev/sda2)" {
insmod ntfs
set root='(hd0,2)'
search --no-floppy --fs-uuid --set ac1c474e1c4712ae
chainloader +1
}
### END /etc/grub.d/30_os-prober ###

### BEGIN /etc/grub.d/40_custom ###
# This file provides an easy way to add custom menu entries. Simply type the
# menu entries you want to add after this comment. Be careful not to change
# the 'exec tail' line above.
### END /etc/grub.d/40_custom ###

=============================== sdb1/etc/fstab: ===============================

# /etc/fstab: static file system information.
#
# Use 'blkid -o value -s UUID' to print the universally unique identifier
# for a device; this may be used with UUID= as a more robust way to name
# devices that works even if disks are added and removed. See fstab(5).
#
# <file system> <mount point> <type> <options> <dump> <pass>
proc /proc proc nodev,noexec,nosuid 0 0
# / was on /dev/sdb1 during installation
UUID=19fd2248-be65-4a33-9c84-29aadf0f380b / ext4 errors=remount-ro 0 1
# swap was on /dev/sdb6 during installation
UUID=3bda01b2-9e55-4d7f-8314-fa5a648affee none swap sw 0 0

=================== sdb1: Location of files loaded by Grub: ===================


512.4GB: boot/grub/core.img
523.0GB: boot/grub/grub.cfg
512.4GB: boot/initrd.img-2.6.32-24-generic
512.4GB: boot/vmlinuz-2.6.32-24-generic
512.4GB: initrd.img
512.4GB: vmlinuz
So far, all my knowledge on Linux has mostly come from books, and I have not read one that addressed this problem. Let me know if more information is needed.

Sincerely,
moonsnow

oldfred
December 28th, 2010, 07:06 PM
Welcome the the forums.

If this an older system? I do not see anything wrong with boot script. grub is in the MBR of sdb and it is trying to boot from sdb1. Older systems have a 137GB limit on location of the boot partition on the system. Your install also found the windows installs and added them to your grub boot menu.

If you in BIOS select the internal drive 250GB does windows boot ok? It looks like it should.

You have already run my first suggestion which is to just reinstall grub with the two line mount and reinstall. Sometimes that does not work and the full chroot into your system from a liveCD does. You just would not have to uninstall grub legacy but should uninstall grub2 (grub-pc) and reinstall.

chroot & grub uninstall & reinstall -drs305
http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1581099
Grub Rescue Prompt Megathread - drs305
http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1594052

You should read drs305 instructions. I have taken the notes on each line out, so you can copy & paste these lines. Besure to reinstall grub to sdb when given the option.


sudo mkdir /mnt/temp
sudo mount /dev/sdb1 /mnt/temp

for i in /dev /dev/pts /proc /sys; do sudo mount -B $i /mnt/temp$i; done
sudo cp /etc/resolv.conf /mnt/temp/etc/resolv.conf
sudo chroot /mnt/temp

apt-get update
apt-get purge grub grub-pc grub-common
apt-get install grub-common grub-pc
update-grub
exit

for i in /dev/pts /dev /proc /sys /boot / ; do sudo umount /mnt/temp$i ; done

I often suggest while in chroot to run all the other updates. But that is optional as booting is the real requirement and once you boot then you can run the updates. No sudo required in chroot enviroment.

apt-get upgrade
#would upgrade you to the latest kernel in the repositories
apt-get dist-upgrade

moonsnow
December 28th, 2010, 08:25 PM
First of all, the computer system isn't old, nor is the external hard drive I'm trying to install on. Windows also boots all right every single time; I've checked and it's booting from the Windows Boot Manager. Next, I've done chroot & grub unistall/reinstall. Then, I rebooted and the problem still exists. I'm not sure if something is wrong, but some lines in the terminal caught my eye while uninstalling/reinstalling grub, so the all the output is posted below:


ubuntu@ubuntu:~$ sudo mkdir /mnt/temp
mkdir: cannot create directory `/mnt/temp': File exists
ubuntu@ubuntu:~$ sudo mount /dev/sdb1 /mnt/temp
mount: /dev/sdb1 already mounted or /mnt/temp busy
mount: according to mtab, /dev/sdb1 is already mounted on /mnt/temp
ubuntu@ubuntu:~$ for i in /dev /dev/pts /proc /sys; do sudo mount -B $i /mnt/temp$i; done
ubuntu@ubuntu:~$ sudo cp /etc/resolv.conf /mnt/temp/etc/resolv.conf
ubuntu@ubuntu:~$ sudo chroot /mnt/temp
root@ubuntu:/# apt-get update
Get:1 http://security.ubuntu.com lucid-security Release.gpg [198B]
Ign http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ lucid-security/main Translation-en_US
Ign http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ lucid-security/restricted Translation-en_US
Ign http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ lucid-security/universe Translation-en_US
Ign http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ lucid-security/multiverse Translation-en_US
Get:2 http://security.ubuntu.com lucid-security Release [38.5kB]
Get:3 http://us.archive.ubuntu.com lucid Release.gpg [189B]
Ign http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ lucid/main Translation-en_US
Ign http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ lucid/restricted Translation-en_US
Ign http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ lucid/universe Translation-en_US
Ign http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ lucid/multiverse Translation-en_US
Get:4 http://us.archive.ubuntu.com lucid-updates Release.gpg [198B]
Ign http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ lucid-updates/main Translation-en_US
Ign http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ lucid-updates/restricted Translation-en_US
Ign http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ lucid-updates/universe Translation-en_US
Ign http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ lucid-updates/multiverse Translation-en_US
Get:5 http://us.archive.ubuntu.com lucid Release [57.2kB]
Get:6 http://us.archive.ubuntu.com lucid-updates Release [44.7kB]
Get:7 http://security.ubuntu.com lucid-security/main Packages [114kB]
Get:8 http://us.archive.ubuntu.com lucid/main Packages [1,386kB]
Get:9 http://security.ubuntu.com lucid-security/restricted Packages [14B]
Get:10 http://security.ubuntu.com lucid-security/main Sources [38.2kB]
Get:11 http://security.ubuntu.com lucid-security/restricted Sources [14B]
Get:12 http://security.ubuntu.com lucid-security/universe Packages [53.4kB]
Get:13 http://security.ubuntu.com lucid-security/universe Sources [15.3kB]
Get:14 http://security.ubuntu.com lucid-security/multiverse Packages [2,003B]
Get:15 http://security.ubuntu.com lucid-security/multiverse Sources [660B]
Get:16 http://us.archive.ubuntu.com lucid/restricted Packages [6,208B]
Get:17 http://us.archive.ubuntu.com lucid/main Sources [659kB]
Get:18 http://us.archive.ubuntu.com lucid/restricted Sources [3,775B]
Get:19 http://us.archive.ubuntu.com lucid/universe Packages [5,448kB]
Get:20 http://us.archive.ubuntu.com lucid/universe Sources [3,165kB]
Get:21 http://us.archive.ubuntu.com lucid/multiverse Packages [180kB]
Get:22 http://us.archive.ubuntu.com lucid/multiverse Sources [119kB]
Get:23 http://us.archive.ubuntu.com lucid-updates/main Packages [375kB]
Get:24 http://us.archive.ubuntu.com lucid-updates/restricted Packages [3,240B]
Get:25 http://us.archive.ubuntu.com lucid-updates/main Sources [141kB]
Get:26 http://us.archive.ubuntu.com lucid-updates/restricted Sources [1,443B]
Get:27 http://us.archive.ubuntu.com lucid-updates/universe Packages [158kB]
Get:28 http://us.archive.ubuntu.com lucid-updates/universe Sources [61.4kB]
Get:29 http://us.archive.ubuntu.com lucid-updates/multiverse Packages [7,366B]
Get:30 http://us.archive.ubuntu.com lucid-updates/multiverse Sources [3,677B]
Fetched 12.1MB in 1min 47s (112kB/s)
Reading package lists... Done
root@ubuntu:/# apt-get purge grub grub-pc grub-common
Reading package lists... Done
Building dependency tree
Reading state information... Done
Package grub is not installed, so not removed
The following packages will be REMOVED:
grub-common* grub-pc*
0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 2 to remove and 181 not upgraded.
After this operation, 6,603kB disk space will be freed.
Do you want to continue [Y/n]? y
(Reading database ... 122909 files and directories currently installed.)
Removing grub-pc ...
Purging configuration files for grub-pc ...
Removing grub-common ...
Purging configuration files for grub-common ...
Processing triggers for man-db ...
Processing triggers for ureadahead ...
Processing triggers for install-info ...
root@ubuntu:/# apt-get install grub-common grub-pc
Reading package lists... Done
Building dependency tree
Reading state information... Done
Suggested packages:
multiboot-doc grub-emu desktop-base
The following NEW packages will be installed:
grub-common grub-pc
0 upgraded, 2 newly installed, 0 to remove and 181 not upgraded.
Need to get 2,148kB of archives.
After this operation, 6,603kB of additional disk space will be used.
Get:1 http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ lucid-updates/main grub-common 1.98-1ubuntu9 [1,510kB]
Get:2 http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ lucid-updates/main grub-pc 1.98-1ubuntu9 [638kB]
Fetched 2,148kB in 17s (120kB/s)
Preconfiguring packages ...
Selecting previously deselected package grub-common.
(Reading database ... 122634 files and directories currently installed.)
Unpacking grub-common (from .../grub-common_1.98-1ubuntu9_i386.deb) ...
Selecting previously deselected package grub-pc.
Unpacking grub-pc (from .../grub-pc_1.98-1ubuntu9_i386.deb) ...
Processing triggers for install-info ...
Processing triggers for man-db ...
Processing triggers for ureadahead ...
Setting up grub-common (1.98-1ubuntu9) ...

Setting up grub-pc (1.98-1ubuntu9) ...

Creating config file /etc/default/grub with new version
Installation finished. No error reported.
Generating grub.cfg ...
Found linux image: /boot/vmlinuz-2.6.32-24-generic
Found initrd image: /boot/initrd.img-2.6.32-24-generic
Found memtest86+ image: /boot/memtest86+.bin
ls: cannot access /media/FreeAgent Drive: No such file or directory
ls: cannot access /media/FreeAgent Drive: No such file or directory
ls: cannot access /media/FreeAgent Drive: No such file or directory
ls: cannot access /media/FreeAgent Drive: No such file or directory
Found Windows Vista (loader) on /dev/sda1
Found Windows Vista (loader) on /dev/sda2
done

root@ubuntu:/# update-grub
Generating grub.cfg ...
Found linux image: /boot/vmlinuz-2.6.32-24-generic
Found initrd image: /boot/initrd.img-2.6.32-24-generic
Found memtest86+ image: /boot/memtest86+.bin
ls: cannot access /media/FreeAgent Drive: No such file or directory
ls: cannot access /media/FreeAgent Drive: No such file or directory
ls: cannot access /media/FreeAgent Drive: No such file or directory
ls: cannot access /media/FreeAgent Drive: No such file or directory
Found Windows Vista (loader) on /dev/sda1
Found Windows Vista (loader) on /dev/sda2
done
root@ubuntu:/# exit
exit
ubuntu@ubuntu:~$ for i in /dev/pts /dev /proc /sys /boot / ; do sudo umount /mnt/temp$i ; done
umount: /mnt/temp/boot: not mounted


Previously, I had already mounted, but I wasn't expecting commands to be run right after I pasted them, so I exited and tried to redo the commands. The lines that concerned me were the parts about "ls: cannot access /media/FreeAgent Drive: No such file or directory" after memtest. Should I try the Grub Rescue Prompt Megathread now? Thanks for helping.

oldfred
December 28th, 2010, 11:30 PM
I thought with the larger drives it was newer, but old systems cannot boot from partitions beyond 137GB.

It says it cannot parse your sdb5 NTFS drive.


/dev/sdb5 2BBE654529E33D97 ntfs FreeAgent Drive

From windows I would see if it sees you sdb5, of course it will call it D: or E: and see if you can run chkdsk on that partition.

Rerun chkdsk until there are no errors as it does not fix all of them on each pass.
Vista/7 CHKDSK
chkdsk [drive] /f /r
chkdsk C: /r
/f : Fixes errors on the disk.
/r : Locates bad sectors and recovers readable information.
Note If you specify the /r option, the /p option is implied. When you specify the chkdsk command without arguments, the command checks the current drive with no options in effect.
http://www.microsoft.com/resources/documentation/windows/xp/all/proddocs/en-us/chkdsk.mspx?mfr=true

moonsnow
December 29th, 2010, 06:46 PM
I have run CHKDSK with the /f and /r options on the partition and it seems that there are no problems with it.



CHKDSK is verifying files (stage 1 of 5)...
3008 file records processed.
File verification completed.
0 large file records processed.
0 bad file records processed.
0 EA records processed.
0 reparse records processed.
CHKDSK is verifying indexes (stage 2 of 5)...
3178 index entries processed.
Index verification completed.
0 unindexed files processed.
CHKDSK is verifying security descriptors (stage 3 of 5)...
3008 security descriptors processed.
Security descriptor verification completed.
85 data files processed.
CHKDSK is verifying file data (stage 4 of 5)...
2992 files processed.
File data verification completed.
CHKDSK is verifying free space (stage 5 of 5)...
114021328 free clusters processed.
Free space verification is complete.
Windows has checked the file system and found no problems.

462046136 KB total disk space.
5876604 KB in 2864 files.
1160 KB in 87 indexes.
0 KB in bad sectors.
83056 KB in use by the system.
65536 KB occupied by the log file.
456085316 KB available on disk.

4096 bytes in each allocation unit.
115511534 total allocation units on disk.
114021329 allocation units available on disk.

oldfred
December 31st, 2010, 01:20 AM
It just may be the space??

FreeAgent Drive

Linux does not like spaces. I would use gparted and right click on the partition and change the label to:

FreeAgentDrive