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Linux_junkie
December 14th, 2010, 09:12 PM
After seeing a link on these forums I discovered Suse Studio and thinking that I could create an individual distribution of openSuse I tried it out. After going through the various steps to create "my distribution" I discovered that Novel insert EULA licence to the distribution.

Anyway after seeing that I've gone off the idea of creating my "own" distribution but if anyone is interested in a copy let me know otherwise I'll just delete it.

nlsthzn
December 15th, 2010, 06:33 AM
After seeing a link on these forums I discovered Suse Studio and thinking that I could create an individual distribution of openSuse I tried it out. After going through the various steps to create "my distribution" I discovered that Novel insert EULA licence to the distribution.

Anyway after seeing that I've gone off the idea of creating my "own" distribution but if anyone is interested in a copy let me know otherwise I'll just delete it.

Hey,

I think SUSE Studio is awesome! Especially being able to test run your new creation on a virtual machine in your browser... as for the EULA, I am talking under correction but depending on what you added etc. it should still be GPL (version whatever)...


Regards
Neil

PS - ... and with the amount of FUD centred around Novell and SUSE I doubt many users on the "Ubuntu" forums are going to try out your creation... and those a bit more open minded will most probably also give it a miss as you give absolutely no information about it ;)

kaldor
December 15th, 2010, 06:36 AM
ps - ... And with the amount of fud centred around novell and suse i doubt many users on the "ubuntu" forums are going to try out your creation... And those a bit more open minded will most probably also give it a miss as you give absolutely no information about it ;)

<3 suse.

Linux_junkie
December 15th, 2010, 08:45 AM
Can someone explain what FUD is short for please? :P

nlsthzn
December 15th, 2010, 09:55 AM
Can someone explain what FUD is short for please? :P

It shouldn't be in any persons nature to be lazy and not use the resources at there disposal, a simple Google search for "FUD meaning" gives a nice explanation on the first link provided...


Fear, uncertainty, and doubt (FUD) is a tactic of rhetoric (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rhetoric) and fallacy (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fallacy) used in sales (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sales), marketing (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marketing), public relations (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Public_relations),[1] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fear,_uncertainty_and_doubt#cite_note-LeadRefs000-0)[2] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fear,_uncertainty_and_doubt#cite_note-1) politics (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Politics) and propaganda (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Propaganda). FUD is generally a strategic attempt to influence public perception by disseminating negative and dubious/false information designed to undermine the credibility of their beliefs. An individual firm, for example, might use FUD to invite unfavorable opinions and speculation about a competitor's product; to increase the general estimation of switching costs (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Switching_barriers) among current customers; or to maintain leverage over a current business partner (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Business_partner) who could potentially become a rival.
FUD techniques may be crude and simple, as in claiming "I read a paper by a Harvard professor that shows you are wrong regarding subject XXX", but the paper does not exist. (Were the paper to exist then it would not be FUD but valid criticism.) Alternatively FUD may be very subtle, employing an indirect approach. Someone who employs FUD cannot generally back up their claims (e.g., "I don't recall which professor or which year the paper is from"). To dispel FUD, the easiest way is to ask for details and then provide well researched hard facts which disprove them. For instance, if it can be shown that no Harvard professor has ever written a paper on subject XXX, then the FUD is dispelled.
The term originated to describe disinformation (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Disinformation) tactics in the computer hardware (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Computer_hardware) industry and has since been used more broadly.[3] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fear,_uncertainty_and_doubt#cite_note-Elliott000-2) FUD is a manifestation of the appeal to fear (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Appeal_to_fear).


So there, now I have done what you could have done for yourself ;) (but this will be the last time :D)

Linux_junkie
December 15th, 2010, 10:05 AM
Right I've spent some more time on Suse Studio this morning and have since realised that it allows you to create your distribution based upon openSuse 11.3 which means that most if not all packages you can choose in your build are open source.

I'm currently creating a build to work with my old desktop pc that has 256MB of RAM and 40GB hard disk so the build at the moment is going to be based around IceWM. When I've finished the build I'll create a live CD and if anyone would like to try/test it let me know.

Since coming back to Linux last year after an absence of 5 years by using Ubuntu 9.10 I was a bit disappointed that with Ubuntu I could not do a custom install and choose the packages I wanted. With Suse Studio it gives you the tools to build your own distro of openSuse by selecting the packages you want.

I think that other distributions like Ubuntu should have something similar or failing that allow users to do custom installs.

Linux_junkie
December 15th, 2010, 10:07 AM
It shouldn't be in any persons nature to be lazy and not use the resources at there disposal, a simple Google search for "FUD meaning" gives a nice explanation on the first link provided...



So there, now I have done what you could have done for yourself ;) (but this will be the last time :D)

Yes you are right I should have "googled" the term myself but I simply thought it was a term only used in these forums.

RandomQuestions
December 15th, 2010, 10:09 AM
Right I've spent some more time on Suse Studio this morning and have since realised that it allows you to create your distribution based upon openSuse 11.3 which means that most if not all packages you can choose in your build are open source.

I'm currently creating a build to work with my old desktop pc that has 256MB of RAM and 40GB hard disk so the build at the moment is going to be based around IceWM. When I've finished the build I'll create a live CD and if anyone would like to try/test it let me know.

Since coming back to Linux last year after an absence of 5 years by using Ubuntu 9.10 I was a bit disappointed that with Ubuntu I could not do a custom install and choose the packages I wanted. With Suse Studio it gives you the tools to build your own distro of openSuse by selecting the packages you want.

I think that other distributions like Ubuntu should have something similar or failing that allow users to do custom installs.

You can do that, using the Ubuntu Customization Kit (uck.sourceforge.net) or a Ubuntu Minimal iso.

ilovelinux33467
December 15th, 2010, 10:19 AM
SUSE Studio is awesome! Once you have built your own custom SUSE online you can then do a testdrive online as well :D

Linux_junkie
December 18th, 2010, 02:28 PM
Hello again, I've finished creating the distro using Suse Studio and if anyone wants to try it out go to www.susestudio.com and search for LiberoX. I would love feedback on it.

DougieFresh4U
December 18th, 2010, 03:02 PM
Can someone explain what FUD is short for please? :P

http://lmgtfy.com/
:p

Johnsie
December 18th, 2010, 03:13 PM
I'm looking forward to releasing my own Suse-based distro. Just running a few test builds to make my perfect OS. Suse Studio is my favourite Linux website at the moment, along with Jolicloud.

Linux_junkie
December 18th, 2010, 03:33 PM
I'm looking forward to releasing my own Suse-based distro. Just running a few test builds to make my perfect OS. Suse Studio is my favourite Linux website at the moment, along with Jolicloud.

Would like to look at your distro when ready let me know what you called it so I can find it.