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madjr
December 2nd, 2010, 04:02 PM
Ok, a new release of my OS will be out soon: madjr v29.0 (my age)

While is not linux based, is still open source (i think :o)

Anyway, i want to add extra security to it.

How do i separate user from ROOT?

right now am running in ROOT and am a little scare. I do have a good antivirus, but i dont think is good enough protection, so am not sure how to do this, thanks :)

Sporkman
December 2nd, 2010, 04:07 PM
I equate root access with having the ability to enter cell walls & operate freely within.

Virii has such root access, whereas bacteria do not. However, root access isn't necessary condition for deadliness.

rg4w
December 2nd, 2010, 04:57 PM
apt-get exercise +rest +vitaminc

madjr
December 2nd, 2010, 05:20 PM
apt-get exercise +rest +vitaminc

cool i already installed rest and vitaminc, no dependency errors there, but i need to upgrade my processor and ram for the exercise app :)

donkyhotay
December 2nd, 2010, 05:56 PM
Awhile open source, humanOS isn't very well documented and we don't really understand the language it's written in very well. Currently we don't have the proper expertise to rewrite humanOS to seperate root and user access. Until this issue can be rectified make certain you put the system into sleep mode on a frequent basis, update your virus definitions (vaccinations), and use apps like jog or hike on a frequent basis.

pricetech
December 2nd, 2010, 06:12 PM
I've found that outside of rare exceptions it's best to avoid allowing physicians access to humanOS. They seem entirely to anxious to "treat" and have no inclination to "cure".

Any form of medicinal input is best avoided also, again with rare exceptions.

AllRadioisDead
December 2nd, 2010, 07:16 PM
I am having system errors, wat do?

Paqman
December 2nd, 2010, 08:02 PM
Virii

Viruses. There is no plural Latin form of the word virus (http://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/virus#Latin).

[/pet hate]

Sporkman
December 3rd, 2010, 12:25 AM
Viruses. There is no plural Latin form of the word virus (http://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/virus#Latin).

[/pet hate]

Gigli (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gigli).

czr114
December 3rd, 2010, 12:39 AM
That will be tough. Human source is tangled spaghetti code.

drawkcab
December 3rd, 2010, 03:49 AM
http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_YcsRkF6yBLI/SruJMN0TgjI/AAAAAAAAHeQ/ervF8cSROX4/s320/Jake+Bubble+Boy.jpg

MisterGaribaldi
December 3rd, 2010, 04:39 AM
sudo rm -f /body/virus ?

Khakilang
December 3rd, 2010, 04:46 AM
Format your body and install it with Linux. And don't visit any porn site or involve in any porn activities. Also don't forget to close all Windows.

julio_cortez
December 3rd, 2010, 09:53 AM
apt-get exercise +rest +vitaminc
Yeah, I'm going that way too.
I've already installed rest and vitamin-c (along with its dependency: oranges) and I'm running vitamin-c quite daily. Also rest is running at least for 6 hours over the nighttime and it behaves well, but for example tonight it crashed several times and I don't know why.

Another issue I'm having is with exercise: apt-get returns an E: Couldn't find package exercise error, so I went downloading the debs one by one.

So I got 5-a-side-football.deb and volleyball.deb and I installed them both with dpkg, but they seem to find a broken pipe with no apparent reason after about a hour and a half running.
Does anyone know if there's a repository or something similar from where I can download the new version of the package stamina which may solve the broken pipe after 1,5 hours (which happens especially when I run volleyball as 5-a-side-football usually ends within a hour with no error)?

ukripper
December 3rd, 2010, 02:39 PM
Kill virus procedure:

sudo apt-get install antibiotic

sudo antibiotic -kill -arsed plonker > /tmp/plonkered.log

anaconda
December 3rd, 2010, 02:49 PM
Kill virus procedure:

sudo apt-get install antibiotic

sudo antibiotic -kill -arsed plonker > /tmp/plonkered.log

Antibiotics dont work against viruses. You vill have to install a different program for that
sudo apt-get install vaccine

Oxwivi
December 3rd, 2010, 03:32 PM
In case infected tissues can't be cured:

sudo mv /infected-tissue /dev/null/Hope I got the null directory right. :P

DZ*
December 3rd, 2010, 04:10 PM
"How do i separate user from ROOT?"

By default, user is separated from root by the blood-brain barrier (BBB). A well known prescription drug for breaching the BBB is called sudo. Its more powerfull modification (su) is illegal some countries.

"How do we prevent viruses from accessing ROOT inside our bodies?"

Developed by the Natural Selection Agency (NSA), immune system was released as Open Source around 600M years ago. This complex system supports two types of defense mechanisms :

(1) Access control security policies implemented via B cells. This requires a system that supports "security labels", or antibodies. It can take years to label a system freshly installed on an infant. Modern systems come with this feature also known as SElinux preinstalled. SElinux is known to throw a fit at times and to mistakenly attack healthy cells. Nevertheless, experts do not recommend that you completely disable SElinux.

(2) T killer cell approach aka AppArmor associates a security profile with every type of cell and provides sandboxing for running untrusted applications and mechanisms used to restrict cell proliferation and to identify cells that are infected with viruses or other malware.

Oxwivi
December 3rd, 2010, 04:14 PM
"How do i separate user from ROOT?"

By default, user is separated from root by the blood-brain barrier (BBB). A well known prescription drug for breaching the BBB is called sudo. Its more powerfull modification (su) is illegal some countries.

"How do we prevent viruses from accessing ROOT inside our bodies?"

Developed by the Evolution and Natural Selection Agency, immune system was released as Open Source around 600M years ago. This complex system supports two types of defense mechanisms :

(1) Access control security policies implemented via B cells. This requires a system that supports "security labels", or antibodies. It can take years to label a system freshly installed on an infant. Modern systems come with this feature also known as SElinux preinstalled. SElinux is known to throw a fit at times and to mistakenly attack healthy cells. Nevertheless, experts do not recommend that you completely disable SElinux.

(2) T killer cell approach aka AppArmor associates a security profile with every type of cell and provides sandboxing for running untrusted applications and mechanisms used to restrict cell proliferation and to identify cells that are infected with viruses or other malware.
So the body is Linux-like.

Paqman
December 3rd, 2010, 04:15 PM
Gigli (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gigli).

Random link is random. You've lost me there.

-gabe-noob-
December 3rd, 2010, 05:35 PM
To prevent
sudo apt-get install vaccine_all
this has numerous dependencies

Remember: While the exercise and vitaminc packages may strengthen your viral defenses, the only coherent one that stops them in their tracks is the vaccine package

If already infected

sudo apt-get install antiviral

This only works on select viruses
if antiviral fails

sudo apt-get install rest
sudo apt-get install bed <helps rest run more efficiently)

Run the rest package in conjunction with the bed package until the virus is cleansed from your system

jjpcexpert
December 3rd, 2010, 05:37 PM
cool i already installed rest and vitaminc, no dependency errors there, but i need to upgrade my processor and ram for the exercise app :)

I've installed rest and I still don't get any.

NCLI
December 3rd, 2010, 06:15 PM
I've found that outside of rare exceptions it's best to avoid allowing physicians access to humanOS. They seem entirely to anxious to "treat" and have no inclination to "cure".

Any form of medicinal input is best avoided also, again with rare exceptions.
I sure hope you don't tell that to people with cancer, diabetes, HIV, or many other diseases which would have killed them if not for modern medicine.

Austin25
December 4th, 2010, 01:58 AM
Gaining root access in your machine could vary widely based on OS. Consult hypnosis documentation for your specific solution.

odiseo77
December 4th, 2010, 03:05 AM
cool i already installed rest and vitaminc, no dependency errors there, but i need to upgrade my processor and ram for the exercise app :)

You can start by installing exercise-lite and let it upgrade your processor and ram -as well as everything else (yeah, exercise-lite can do it ;)).

pricetech
December 4th, 2010, 05:49 AM
I sure hope you don't tell that to people with cancer, diabetes, HIV, or many other diseases which would have killed them if not for modern medicine.

Did you miss the part about "rare exceptions" ???

Giant Speck
December 4th, 2010, 09:00 AM
Random link is random. You've lost me there.
I took it to mean that he didn't care that you corrected him.

ki4jgt
December 4th, 2010, 01:49 PM
Viruses are built by hackers. So you'll never be able to keep them completely out. When you think you've patched all the holes, They find another one. Which is why we have ethical hacking. If I can hack something and then tell someone how I did it, they can find a way around it (Vaccine <Has the little virus hackers in it, teaches our body how to fight them>) They don't really sudo su as much as making our bodies think they did. Some of them actually fool our bodies (AIDS) Some don't. I think we have a pretty good firewall already. Just make sure to sudo apt-get update!

pricetech
December 6th, 2010, 03:37 PM
If we can figure out exactly how sharks do it, and adapt the human body to do the same.......

phredbull
December 6th, 2010, 05:40 PM
Excessive dosing of vitamin c, (beyond what is provided by a healthy diet) is useless. Multivitimins don't do much either, provided you eat properly. And if you don't eat well, no vitamins will make up for unhealthy eating habits.
I believe that some exposure to pathogens when the immune system is still developing results in a stronger system when mature.
I'm gonna break rank and say that our immune system is more akin to a ******* system; your body's reaction to a cold or flu being like an antivirus scan, purging and quarantining any unwanted elements. Unfortunately, we cannot function w/out a/v protection.

Ranko Kohime
April 28th, 2011, 03:04 AM
Excessive dosing of vitamin c, (beyond what is provided by a healthy diet) is useless.
I've been told that once daily intake reaches approx. 20,000mg/day, you begin experiencing EXPLOSIVE diarrhea.

Not something I've experienced, but just something I've been told. :D

Ranko Kohime
April 28th, 2011, 04:31 AM
I've found that outside of rare exceptions it's best to avoid allowing physicians access to humanOS. They seem entirely to anxious to "treat" and have no inclination to "cure".

Any form of medicinal input is best avoided also, again with rare exceptions.
This. I haven't seen a doctor since I got a hernia repaired. Before that, because I stuck a button or something in my ear as a small child.

I manage any illness that comes my way (which is becoming ever more infrequent) by looking up the symptoms online, and reading more than one site before deciding what's wrong, and how to correct it.

Most ills (yes, cancer too) are a result of poor diet.