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@lpha
November 4th, 2010, 09:27 AM
Hi, I have a problem where the resolution during bootup, shutdown, switching users, and the theme icons look very grainy & cheap. It might have started when I booted in failsafe graphics mode and after that, it never went away. Could be wrong about how it happened but is there a way to get out of failsafe mode? Or a way to reconfigure default, normal graphics?




Thank you very much in advance, guys.

Peter09
November 4th, 2010, 10:31 AM
Can you post the output of the terminal command


lshw -C video

also check in

System->Preferences->Display

you may be able to set your resolution there.

Also Check

System->Administration->Hardware

see if there is a graphics driver that needs enabling.

@lpha
November 5th, 2010, 01:02 AM
lshw -C video:
*-display
description: VGA compatible controller
product: RS480 [Radeon Xpress 200G Series]
vendor: ATI Technologies Inc
physical id: 5
bus info: pci@0000:01:05.0
version: 00
width: 32 bits
clock: 66MHz
capabilities: vga_controller bus_master cap_list rom
configuration: driver=radeon latency=64 mingnt=8
resources: irq:17 memory:f8000000-fbffffff ioport:ee00(size=256) memory:fdef0000-fdefffff memory:fde00000-fde1ffff



Display and hardware settings are set correctly but problem still persists. I should also note that I changed a "xorg" file in the terminal trying to solve a system freeze (now fixed), maybe that caused a problem.

Peter09
November 5th, 2010, 09:05 AM
I presume that you are running lucid or above, try removing the xorg file (save it by renaming it). Then reboot and see if things improve.

@lpha
November 6th, 2010, 07:35 AM
I edited xorg file using: sudo gedit /etc/X11/xorg.conf to file name: xorg.conf1 in texteditor and Ubuntu won't even boot up. I am in failsafe mode as of now. Please help me undo this.

Peter09
November 6th, 2010, 09:31 AM
OK,
just to confirm what you did,
you edited xorg.conf and saved it as xorg.conf1. Did you delete the original xorg.conf?

To get back to where you started, hold the shift key down while the system is booting, this should get you to the recovery menu. Selcect reconfigure graphics and let it do what it can to reboot.

If you get to the desktop check the System->Admin->Hardware menue.

@lpha
November 6th, 2010, 10:43 AM
Hey thanks. Reconfiguring the graphics fixed it, that was a simple solution. I guess I just panicked and couldn't think clearly but I'm up & running now. Thank you..



OK,
just to confirm what you did,
you edited xorg.conf and saved it as xorg.conf1.

Correct, all I did was rename the xorg file through the command line. Was this the right way to do it?

Also, when I go to my etc/X11/ folder, I don't see a normal xorg.conf file. The only thing I see with the name xorg are xorg.conf.failsafe and xorg.conf-backup files.

Peter09
November 6th, 2010, 01:24 PM
These days Ubuntu does not normally run with an xorg file, although for some special retirements one can be built. Sometimes an old xorg.conf file is what screws up the graphics setup.

@lpha
November 6th, 2010, 10:32 PM
How can I get rid of xorg safely?

coffeecat
November 6th, 2010, 10:49 PM
You mean xorg.conf. You have already by renaming it. There is no xorg.conf file now in your /etc/X11/ folder.

@lpha
November 7th, 2010, 01:33 AM
You mean xorg.conf. You have already by renaming it. There is no xorg.conf file now in your /etc/X11/ folder.

The reason I said this was because the normal xorg.conf file was never in the /etc/X11/folder, even before I renamed it. All that was there before I did the editing was the xorg.conf.failsafe, & that's the file I think is causing the big problem. What do you guys recommend me doing?

Should I remove or reconfigure xorg.conf.failsafe? Are there more options? I know xorg is the culprit for the resolution bug.

Peter09
November 7th, 2010, 08:31 AM
If its working now, just leave it, the other two files are there for recovery reasons, not normal working.

coffeecat
November 7th, 2010, 11:16 AM
If its working now, just leave it, the other two files are there for recovery reasons, not normal working.

Agreed.


The reason I said this was because the normal xorg.conf file was never in the /etc/X11/folder, even before I renamed it. All that was there before I did the editing was the xorg.conf.failsafe, & that's the file I think is causing the big problem. What do you guys recommend me doing?

Should I remove or reconfigure xorg.conf.failsafe? Are there more options? I know xorg is the culprit for the resolution bug.

xorg.org.failsafe is doing nothing. xorg or Xorg or X.org (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Xorg) is not the culprit for anything because xorg is just another name for the xserver which is the underpinnings for your whole GUI. xorg.conf is the configuration file that used to be used by xorg/xserver. Within the last two to three years, the xorg people have developed xserver to be able to autodetect and autoconfigure most hardware so long as you are using one of the open-source drivers. You are using the radeon driver, which is an open source one. As Peter09 said earlier, an xorg.conf is only needed for special requirements, such as a proprietary video driver. If an xorg.conf file is present, it will take priority over any autoconfiguration, which is why a bad xorg.conf file can mess up the graphics.

Leave the two xorg.conf* files or delete them. They are doing nothing except taking up a few kilobytes of hard drive space. But you might want to keep them, particularly the *failsafe one, even if only for reference or interest.

@lpha
November 8th, 2010, 12:42 AM
Thank you guys for the feedback. The resolution problem that I first posted still remains, though (screen flicker when switching users, bad resolution on boot & shutdown, and theme icons are hardly visible). What could the problem be if it has nothing to do with this "xorg"?




Sorry if I seem to be a bug. This post turned out to be much longer than I anticipated.

coffeecat
November 8th, 2010, 11:17 AM
theme icons look very grainy & cheap.

Post a screenshot so that we can see what you mean.

What model laptop is it? What is its maximum resolution according to specification? What resolution is showing when you go to System > Preferences > Monitors? If that is not the maximum resolution, is it shown in the drop-down box for resolution?


What could the problem be if it has nothing to do with this "xorg"?

To exclude failing hardware, boot up with the live CD and see whether the problems remain. You can't switch users but you can log out and in again. Log in details for the live session are "ubuntu" for username and blank for the password - that is, simply press enter when prompted for password.

Peter09
November 8th, 2010, 11:29 AM
Are you talking about resolution on your desktop or resolution during startup/shutdown. Also you seem to be talking about icon problems. Have you tried changing your theme using System->Preferences->Appearance.

@lpha
November 9th, 2010, 02:53 AM
Heres what things look like in boot menu as well (grainy):
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I actually have a desktop, not a laptop.. and the max resolution for my screen is 1280 x 1024. I'm using that setting. I'll also try out the live cd and post my results as soon as possible.


Peter, I am talking about the resolution during startup/shutdown. The worst problem is when I switch users. The screen flickers and it is difficult to log in. Unfortunately, I couldn't get a screenshot of those.

Peter09
November 9th, 2010, 09:14 AM
Hi,
if you are talking about the screen where you see the Ubuntu logo and the dots moving, then this is not controlled by Gnome/X at all but by Plymouth(I think) which is started prior to you logging in. I do not know how to adjust the resolution for that.

If you have a desktop which is running at the correct resolution than thats a good start. As for your problems with switching users, this still sounds like a graphics driver/card issue.

Do you see any problems on your normal desktop when moving windows etc?