OpenOffice is dead - long live LibreOffice??

[bwallum]

Just picked up this news item

http://m.bnet.com/blog/technology-business/oracle-8217s-war-on-open-source-is-the-tip-of-the-management-problem/6514

Oracle appear to be turning against their 'open' side. Anybody tried LibreOffice? Any inside track on OpenOffice?

[Grenage]

There are many threads on this, so it might be worth a search. :)

[bwallum]

Well I did first and got this:
http://ubuntuforums.org/search.php?searchid=77111693

[bwallum]

:confused:and just found this: (bit - as in its a bit - cryptic)
http://wiki.services.openoffice.org/wiki/Community_Council_Log_20101014

[Grenage]

http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1598886&highlight=libreoffice

There's some discussion here.

[bwallum]

Here's the download page. Also at the bottom of the page you can subscribe to a news email to keep updated on LibreOffice (currently in beta and not recommended for production).

http://www.documentfoundation.org/download/

Thanks for the replies!
Bob

[rburkartjo]

when they replace libre with open office in 11.04 most wont see any difference. have messed with it but not completely ready for prime time. any doc you have saved in openoffice format can be opened with libre.

[maghoxfr]

I changed to libreoffice. It has some bugs but overall it's the same as openoffice.

[beew]

I changed to libreoffice. It has some bugs but overall it's the same as openoffice.

Actually I found at least one significant difference. In LibreOffice I saved an ods file in xslx and then opened it flawlessly, whereas in OOO3.2.1 I got an error "Undefined number format id '42'" when I tried to resave the same ods file as xlsx and when the xlsx file opens all the table grids are gone. This apparently only happens when converting something else (xls, ods) to xlsx in OOO. If the document is originally in xlsx then it opens fine.


EDITED: Strange, actually the Windows version of go-oo can save to xlsx as well, it seems that there is a problem with the version in Maverick

[marl30]

I had it installed alongside Openoffice 3.3 and I really can't see any difference whatsoever.

[marl30]

What would impress me the most is if Libreoffice handles complex MS formats from Office 2007 and 2010 better than OOO.

[Ichido]

I had it installed alongside Openoffice 3.3 and I really can't see any difference whatsoever.

I thought that was not possible!?
I thought one had to Remove/Uninstall OO before installing LibreOffice.

Look here:http://www.webupd8.org/2011/01/install-libreoffice-in-ubuntu-from.html

"Important notice: to install LibreOffice you must completely remove OpenOffice so you cannot have both in the same time!"

[marl30]

I thought that was not possible!?
I thought one had to Remove/Uninstall OO before installing LibreOffice.

Look here:http://www.webupd8.org/2011/01/install-libreoffice-in-ubuntu-from.html

"Important notice: to install LibreOffice you must completely remove OpenOffice so you cannot have both in the same time!"

My post was prior to the PPA being available. This was back when you had to install the deb files using a command. I had the latest beta version of OpenOffice then. Installing it from the PPA removed OpenOffice this time around.

[smellyman]

What would impress me the most is if Libreoffice handles complex MS formats from Office 2007 and 2010 better than OOO.

what would impress me is if MS office could open MS Office formats from previous versions and from same versions to different companies without corrupting the docs.

[marl30]

what would impress me is if MS office could open MS Office formats from previous versions and from same versions to different companies without corrupting the docs.

There is another Linux based Office (commercial) with about 95% compatibility with MS formates, so there is yet hope for LibreOffice to improve in that regard. I wasn't really having a go at LibreOffice at all. I think they are heading in the right direction. I'm more than impress with the new RC 2. It seems to perform better than OpenOffice. I know they'll work on improving the compatibility issues in the future.

[smellyman]

There is another Linux based Office (commercial) with about 95% compatibility with MS formates, so there is yet hope for LibreOffice to improve in that regard. I wasn't really having a go at LibreOffice at all. I think they are heading in the right direction. I'm more than impress with the new RC 2. It seems to perform better than OpenOffice. I know they'll work on improving the compatibility issues in the future.

I was just having a go at MS office which has been terrible at backwards compatibility and even if on the same version corrupt doucment issues occur often, especially shared between orginisations. Yet OOo, libre etc catch more flack with this when MS Office can't even do it.

[sdowney717]

http://go-oo.org/

why not this one? Libreoffice has an rpm and go-oo has a deb to install.
how many forks of open office are out there now?


Go-oo has been made obsolete by the exciting new LibreOffice project. Read their planet here.
very confusing

[maghoxfr]

http://go-oo.org/

why not this one? Libreoffice has an rpm and go-oo has a deb to install.
how many forks of open office are out there now?


very confusing

"Go-oo joins forces with LibreOffice
Go-oo shares much of its goals and philosophy with The Document Foundation's LibreOffice project, we're therefore supporting LibreOffice since it's inception, and are in the process of merging most of our patches over, as well as migrating to Document Foundation infrastructure. Going forward, the Go-oo project will be discontinued in favor of LibreOffice."

[smellyman]

"Go-oo joins forces with LibreOffice
Go-oo shares much of its goals and philosophy with The Document Foundation's LibreOffice project, we're therefore supporting LibreOffice since it's inception, and are in the process of merging most of our patches over, as well as migrating to Document Foundation infrastructure. Going forward, the Go-oo project will be discontinued in favor of LibreOffice."

sweet. Libre is becoming a very strong project.

[maghoxfr]

sweet. Libre is becoming a very strong project.

I have a lot of faith on it too.

[marl30]

LibreOffice has a large list of contributors. I'm really expecting great things. I can just imagine if Gimp had some many instead of only three.

[maghoxfr]

Libreoffice and Blender are both great examples of what can be achieved with FOSS when finding the right way of collaboration. It's really sad that the GIMP, being the most known picture editing linux software has not reached that level of collaboration.

[Spice Weasel]

Libreoffice and Blender are both great examples of what can be achieved with FOSS when finding the right way of collaboration. It's really sad that the GIMP, being the most known picture editing linux software has not reached that level of collaboration.

Oh really? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/CinePaint

[marl30]

Oh really? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/CinePaint
Never heard of this. But it appears there has not been a new version of that software since 2008. The project seems dead to me.

[kaldor]

CinePaint has also been used in some big-name movie production.

On topic though, I'm hoping LibreOffice catches up closer to MS Office. It's great for me so far; no hitches, but still nothing new yet.

[Spice Weasel]

Never heard of this. But it appears there has not been a new version of that software since 2008. The project seems dead to me.

Lots of unstable releases, they are rewriting it to use a faster toolkit.

[JDorfler]

Okay, did I miss something. What happened to OOo? Do I have to start changing bumper stickers? Anyone have a quick and dirty on what the big deal is?

[areteichi]

Okay, did I miss something. What happened to OOo? Do I have to start changing bumper stickers? Anyone have a quick and dirty on what the big deal is?

We can finally forget about Oracle for good :p

[maghoxfr]

Oh really? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/CinePaint

I know cinepaint, what I don't understand is what you meant by saying "oh really?" and droping a link to it, it really makes no sense and is totally unrelated to my comment. I only said that the gimp is the most known picture editor, nothing else, not better, not the best just the most known.

And I just was pointing out how there's projects with the right amount of collaboration that are getting somewhere interesting, like BLender and Libreoffice.

[Merk42]

Okay, did I miss something. What happened to OOo? Do I have to start changing bumper stickers? Anyone have a quick and dirty on what the big deal is?
You could try the link in the first post...

[marl30]

We can finally forget about Oracle for good :p
Not as yet, at least when the open source version of VirtualBox adds the same features as Oracle's version.

[JDorfler]

You could try the link in the first post...

I was looking for a bit more info than what is easily accessed on the web. It sounds a lot like infighting he said/she said petty bickering so far. Each can be accused of pulling the party line for Oracle (Openoffice) or Novell (Libreoffice) when you dig deep into it.

[Spice Weasel]

I know cinepaint, what I don't understand is what you meant by saying "oh really?" and droping a link to it, it really makes no sense and is totally unrelated to my comment. I only said that the gimp is the most known picture editor, nothing else, not better, not the best just the most known.

If it is getting used lots professionally, it must be a good piece of software. The people who are using it are also contributing lots of code.

[maghoxfr]

If it is getting used lots professionally, it must be a good piece of software. The people who are using it are also contributing lots of code.

I never stated otherwise, I just said that GIMP is the most known picture editor in linux.

[maghoxfr]

Libreoffice has now a PPA. I've just purged openoffice out of my ubuntu and leave only Libreoffice. It feels good ;)

[Merk42]

If it is getting used lots professionally, it must be a good piece of software.
Windows is awesome then, isn't it?

[Evil-Ernie]

Windows is awesome then, isn't it?

Depends on how you look at it, is it by gross amount of users that are professional or percentage?

[Spice Weasel]

Windows is awesome then, isn't it?

Except there aren't any alternatives to windows that have exactly the same features + functionality (ReactOS isn't finished), whereas there are lots of alternatives that do exactly the same thing as CinePaint.

[marl30]

Windows is awesome then, isn't it?
Nothing wrong with Windows, just Microsoft.

[alaukikyo]

Nothing wrong with Windows

yah
just slow,unresponsive,filled with bloat, file-system fragments quickly,terrible security,takes a hell of time to boot after 1-2 months,slow to shutdown, less hardware support out of the box nothing else ;)

[donalgodon]

Actually I found at least one significant difference. In LibreOffice I saved an ods file in xslx and then opened it flawlessly, whereas in OOO3.2.1 I got an error "Undefined number format id '42'" when I tried to resave the same ods file as xlsx and when the xlsx file opens all the table grids are gone. This apparently only happens when converting something else (xls, ods) to xlsx in OOO. If the document is originally in xlsx then it opens fine.


EDITED: Strange, actually the Windows version of go-oo can save to xlsx as well, it seems that there is a problem with the version in Maverick

I get the same error opening some spreadsheets in Gnumeric, which I actually prefer.

Anybody know what this means?

[beew]

Sorry, it turns out I goofed. That was gnumeric, somehow I thought I have set the file association to OO but I haven't.:redface:

[Sef]

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