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ice60
April 15th, 2006, 09:02 PM
hi, i have a new HDD i'm waiting to install. i was waiting for Dapper to use it even after finding out about the release date changing.

but, i had some problems with Breezy this morning here (http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=160632), plus apt had broken too (i had to fix a corrupted file) so now i'd like to install Dapper if possible.

so can/should i install Dapper now on my new HDD, or should i wait? i don't want to have to install it twice and i don't know anything about upgrades, i've never done one on any distro (i'm still running RH1 j/k :mrgreen: )

my system can't run with 2 HDDs it's not powerful enough :( so i'd have to just copy some stuff to cds and go from there.

should i maybe install Fedora Core/SuSE on it instead?

there is one more thing - i have a winmodem which needs to be hacked to get working, i can buy a NAT router in the next day or so.

what would you do? thanks :)

welsh_spud
April 15th, 2006, 09:10 PM
Dapper is working great for me at the moment. If you are doing a fresh install on a blank hard disk, then there shouldn't really be much of a problem.

The problems show up if you try to upgrade to Dapper with apt-get.

Generic warning: Dapper is still in development, back up all mission critical work blah blah, you know the score.

John.Michael.Kane
April 15th, 2006, 09:11 PM
Yes anyone who is comortable with linux could install Dapper. the question is does your hardware work with it. your winmodem may need some coaxing. however if you the rest of your hardware is good to go then you could give it a shot. as for upgrading from the alpha or beta versions of dapper you would ($sudo apt-get dist-upgrade) to next, and final release.

Jedeye
April 15th, 2006, 09:14 PM
Go for it! Dapper has been working great for me and starting on a blank HD you have nothing to loose.

mips
April 15th, 2006, 09:15 PM
You can install Dapper but do you want to ? Dapper is pretty stable although now and again the odd thing breaks but usually easily fixed.

Could I advise you to create at least three partitions, besides the default system & swap partition also create a /home partition for all your data. This way should you ever have to reinstall the home partition stays intact and you dont loose any data or application data. Just makes life so much easier.

Dapper gets updated regularly so you will need a broadband (adsl/cable) connection but you need this with ubuntu regardless. So get a router with ethernet ports (NO usb!!) linksys/netgear/billion will all work fine.

I would install Dapper (latest daily build) & buy that router...but thats just me ;)

ice60
April 15th, 2006, 10:16 PM
d(-_^) very cool, thanks for the help everyone http://club.pep.ne.jp/~hiroette/kaomoji/dance.gif i think i'm going to buy the router first, i was abit worried i wouldn't be able to reboot, but i hope i'll be OK for afew more days.

you know you should make a partition for ~/ ? i thought i sometimes heard some people make partitions for another directory, does anyone know which one it is?

and when you do a dist-upgrade (every day :confused: ) does it leave alot of mess behind? thanks.

John.Michael.Kane
April 15th, 2006, 10:35 PM
Edit Removed as it is not the best method!!!

aysiu
April 15th, 2006, 10:47 PM
dist-upgrade is not done everyday.... dist-upgrades only need to be done for final releases. That's not what I was told in another thread (http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=467466&postcount=11).

nickle
April 15th, 2006, 11:32 PM
Breezy works well for me right now. I hear many great things about Dpper from those brave souls who have taken the leap. However, maybe it because I am getting old, I hate to mess with a working system. Especially one that has had the benefit of being altered by automatix.
If Dapper is going to work, I want to to work right off from an upgrade, i.e. no new fresh install. Since I am not the most technically adept, I am reticent about doing the upgrade right now. It is my feeling that I should let the more talented work on ironing out the inevitable bugs. For their servicesI am grateful.
I become sceptical when I hear, one should choose a fresh install instead of an update. What is the concensus right now? What is the difference between a fresh install and an upgrade?

John.Michael.Kane
April 15th, 2006, 11:36 PM
That's not what I was told in another thread (http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=467466&postcount=11).


@aysiu if what that poster told you works for you that fine. i simply posted the method which i use, if you feel the method i offered to the OP is worng fine. Now the OP knows the best way to use dist-upgrade.


To the OP please look this over http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=467466&postcount=11 for anymore questions reguarding dist-upgrading.