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ka3sem
October 12th, 2010, 09:33 PM
Hi everybody,

I have only a ubuntu 8.10 in my computer, and trying to desinstall some tools and make more free space to do the update to ubuntu 9, I have deleted some system-files (python), and my OS become defected, no internet connexion, no graphic interface, ...

my ubuntu CD is defected too and shows an error like: 'ubiquited error ...'. I can only boot from it, but can not install the install packet which is in the desktop.

I have downloaded the .iso version 10.04 but the grub failed

I have followed this link:
https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/FromLinux

but in step3, I founded /etc/grub.d/20_memtest86+ instead of /etc/grub.conf or /boot/grub/menu.lst or /etc/grub.d/40_custom and I have added the following files in my 20_memtest86+

menuentry "installer" {
insmod ext2
set root=(hd0,1)
linux /casper/vmlinuz boot=casper root=/dev/ram1 ramdisk_size=1048576 rw
initrd /casper/initrd.lz
}


Thanks for help!




Boot Info Script 0.55 dated February 15th, 2010

============================= Boot Info Summary: ==============================

=> Grub 0.97 is installed in the MBR of /dev/sda and looks on the same drive
in partition #2 for /boot/grub/stage2 and /boot/grub/menu.lst.

sda1: __________________________________________________ _______________________

File system: swap
Boot sector type: -
Boot sector info:

sda2: __________________________________________________ _______________________

File system: ext3
Boot sector type: -
Boot sector info:
Operating System:
Boot files/dirs:

sda3: __________________________________________________ _______________________

File system: ext3
Boot sector type: -
Boot sector info:
Operating System:
Boot files/dirs:

=========================== Drive/Partition Info: =============================

Drive: sda ___________________ __________________________________________________ ___

Disk /dev/sda: 160.0 GB, 160041885696 bytes
255 heads, 63 sectors/track, 19457 cylinders, total 312581808 sectors
Units = sectors of 1 * 512 = 512 bytes
Disk identifier: 0x7e227e22

Partition Boot Start End Size Id System

/dev/sda1 63 979,964 979,902 82 Linux swap / Solaris
/dev/sda2 979,965 124,166,384 123,186,420 83 Linux
/dev/sda3 124,166,385 312,576,704 188,410,320 83 Linux


blkid -c /dev/null: __________________________________________________ __________

Device UUID TYPE LABEL

/dev/loop0 squashfs
/dev/sda1 9824c022-89b4-4caf-940a-5a5f3d2e29d0 swap
/dev/sda2 6ea89aac-06b8-4586-8c91-44245035ff9f ext3 /
/dev/sda3 e00cb457-274f-4d92-aa80-8bf475ea0d0b ext3 /home

============================ "mount | grep ^/dev output: ===========================

Device Mount_Point Type Options

rootfs / rootfs (rw)
/dev/scd0 /cdrom iso9660 (ro,noatime)
/dev/loop0 /rofs squashfs (ro,noatime)
/dev/sda2 /media/disk ext3 (rw,nosuid,nodev,uhelper=hal)
/dev/sda3 /media/_home ext3 (rw,nosuid,nodev,uhelper=hal)
/dev/sda2 /mnt ext3 (rw)
/dev/sda3 /mnt ext3 (rw)
/dev/sda2 /mnt ext3 (rw)

drs305
October 12th, 2010, 10:12 PM
The results do not show any installation on the drive, including boot files. This may be why the files are always empty. Your boot files, if they exist, would be on sda2. It appears when you are running the CD and the boot script the system drive is also mounted on /media/disk. That partition may only be mounted while the script runs, but you could check that location with a file browser.

Your /home partition is on sda3 and you might try mounting that to see if you can get your data files back.

There are utilities such as TestDisk and Photorec which help recover files but it is not an easy process (especially Photorec).

I would try to mount sda2 (system partition) and sda3 (home) and inspect the entire partition to see if any files are recoverable.

If you don't have a boot partition and can't edit it's files you aren't going to be able to follow the procedure in the link. It is based on a working Ubuntu system.

Without a working system, a fully functioning CD, or an Internet connection I am not sure what your options are. You need at least one of those three things.

I think I'd start a new thread with a title like: Install without Internet? or something like that.

Explain in the first post:
No Internet
Which CD you have (Jaunty, Karmic, Lucid, etc) can boot but can't install.
You have a non-working installation of ... (version).
Results.txt

Perhaps someone will have a solution.

oldfred
October 12th, 2010, 10:25 PM
It looks like you deleted more than just a few programs but the entire system. The boot script does not show anything in /boot neither kernels nor grub. Or /boot looks like it was deleted. At this point trying to recover looks difficult or impossible. Fortunately you have a separate /home so you should be able to do a manual reinstall using your existing /home (unformated) and at least have all your user settings & data.

What is the problem using the liveCD to install. It seems like it is working well enough for you to get online.

ka3sem
October 12th, 2010, 11:34 PM
the with the cd is after runing the packet on the desktop, after same steps, I receive a error like: ubiquited error ...

/media/_home & /media/disk are created through the Partition Editor gparted (with the CD).

So, I have no working system, no working CD, but I have internet connection. How can I proceed?

ka3sem
October 13th, 2010, 01:10 AM
Duplicate post.

drs305
October 13th, 2010, 03:07 AM
I think your best option, aside from getting another CD, is to get the CD you have to boot? You mentioned Ubiqity but we dont' really know what the error is.

When you first boot the LiveCD, you can press ESC from the Language selection page, spacebar or F6. It probably differs with CD versions. On recent CDs, if you press F6 it may pop up some boot options. You might try "noapic" and "acpi=off" which I believe are preset options. If you don't see them, try pressing F6 again. The linux line should show and you can manually type those options at the end of the line and then boot.

Which version of Ubuntu is your CD? Also, did you accomplish a CD check? Again, the more recent CDs have this option.

ka3sem
October 13th, 2010, 11:02 AM
When I boot the LiveCD and I press F2, F6,... from the Language selection page, or I want to change the language, nothing changes or would be displayed.
I should wait to the end of 20s, 19s, 18s, .... and then I will be in the showed desktop.
So I think that ESC doesn't work too.

ka3sem
October 13th, 2010, 01:43 PM
@oldfred

which solution do you have for this situation?

oldfred
October 13th, 2010, 04:35 PM
Do you have the ISO file (not installed on CD) and can you run gparted? Is ISO current version?

If so you can create a 1GB partition on your hard drive and install grub2 to the new partition and loopmount the ISO and then install from that. Confirm you have ISO and can run gparted and I can give details.

ka3sem
October 13th, 2010, 04:47 PM
thanks oldfred, a friend had given me the Ubuntu 9.10-CD und I will try with it.

ka3sem
October 14th, 2010, 06:51 AM
I have installed ubuntu 9 and then upgraded to 10. The problem is resolved now. But I have lost some data & files which were in my system Ubuntu 8 :( .

@oldfred
can you tell me more details about the solution (which commands to use, ...): "install grub2 to the 1GB partition and loopmount the ISO and then install from that"?

and how can I recover my lost data?


Thanks anyway

oldfred
October 14th, 2010, 10:32 PM
Once a partition has new data written to it, it is about impossible to recover data. These programs will scan a drive and look for what may be a file and let you save it.

Testdisk & photorec
http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntucat/recoverdeletedfiles/
Foremost
http://www.howtoforge.com/recover-deleted-files-with-foremost
http://www.ubuntugeek.com/recover-deleted-files-with-foremostscalpel-in-ubuntu.html


What I suggest is to create a separate install partition on hard drive. You allocate 1GB and install grub to it, create a folder /boot/ISO and copy the ISO to that folder. Then you created a grub.cfg that loop mounts the ISO. You then can install to other partitions on hard drive. But if you have a working liveCD or USB you do not need to use hard drive.

Direct boot on hard drive:
http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1549847
Boot ISO from harddrive. To install it would have to be different partition
[SOLVED] Using grub 2 to boot an iso off hard drive
http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1535864
Says you can install from same partition you boot from with workarounds.
https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/FromLinux

ka3sem
October 15th, 2010, 07:27 PM
ok, thanks.