Would you use IE9 if it was able to run on Linux

[brydonhunter]

it would be interesting until I got the first IE virus...

[Half-Left]

No way!

[NCLI]

...Were you trying to make a poll? Anyway, no. I need my Firefox plugins.
:KS

[pwnst*r]

it would be interesting until I got the first IE virus...

Good one. Man, that's comedy right there.

[M93]

i'd give it a try, why not?
they've given it a sense of chrome (in appearance) so it might have some of its performance :D

[98cwitr]

hell & no!

[brydonhunter]

was trying to make a poll... next time I won't use IE to create it :D

[98cwitr]

chrome > *

[dolphin194]

Who would want to anyway?

[kaldor]

What would be the point in using IE..? If I were to develop websites and such it would be a good tool to check for compatability, but nothing more. Microsoft always hypes up their latest products. IE9 is just going to lag behind, hold everything back, and annoy web developers.

Best bet would be for them to start fresh; IE failed.

[gradinaruvasile]

The horror... The horror...

[beew]

Before you laugh there are actually threads by people inquiring how to run IE version x in WINE and they sound really desperate. No, they are not web developers. :)

[beetleman64]

No. I wouldn't even bother if I was using Windows since i know it will not be as good as Firefox or Chrome. And also IE is generally -

[Old Marcus]

I would. Partly for compatibility checks and also because I've been using it over the past day or so and I am finding it pretty nice to use.

Now excuse me while I get torn to pieces by brainwashed ubuntu tarts.

[MooPi]

No way!

This :-)

[murderslastcrow]

I have used it on Linux. And ZOMG NO! Why WOULD you? The people who use it do it just because it's what was there when they got the computer. If they were shown Firefox or Chrome, I doubt they would stay unless they're afraid of new things. Many people are.

If it's not Microsoft, it's not official enough for them, some people.

[Rasa1111]

No way!


lol, my sentiments exactly.

I honestly think I would go to permanently using the lynks browser from terminal before i used IE.
I would sacrifice the pretty pictures and videos, and use only a text based browser. lol
IE, imho, is that bad.

So not a chance.

[scouser73]

no way!

+1

[KiwiNZ]

If MS released a Linux version I would try it. I would not mess with Wine as I don't use Wine.

[whiskeylover]

Unless you're a webdev, what possible advantage can you get from running IE in Wine on Linux?

[Rasa1111]

the only "advantage" would probably be that they wouldn't have to "figure out" a new browser. lol

like people running "irfanview" under WINE to crop photos. lol. :lol:

[andymorton]

Not a chance. Internet Explorer is without doubt the worst web browser I've ever used. With Firefox, Chromium/Chrome and Opera (all of them are far superior to IE) I don't see the point in using it.

[KiwiNZ]

Not a chance. Internet Explorer is without doubt the worst web browser I've ever used. With Firefox, Chromium/Chrome and Opera (all of them are far superior to IE) I don't see the point in using it.

Have you used IE9?

[Old Marcus]

In some ways, I find using IE9 to be a better experience than FF4. (Shock! Horror!) Although this is mainly due to the fact that IE doesn't screw up the display when scrolling over flash videos. When comparing two betas, I find IE9 to be better quality wise atm, although you can't really judge it until the final release.

[fatality_uk]

I might. Depends on how good it is.

[dinamic1]

no!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[pookiebear]

I would use it to show how I could get a virus on a linux box, or as an example of what NOT to do. Then format and reload fresh.

All the web devs I work with curse MS as the testing of a site takes 4 times the testing time for IE as testing with other browser to make sure a new page/code is working. And yes they are testing with 9

[pookiebear]

I would use it to show how I could get a virus on a linux box, or as an example of what NOT to do. Then format and reload fresh.

All the web devs I work with curse MS as the testing of a site takes 4 times the testing time for IE as testing with other browser to make sure a new page/code is working. And yes they are testing with 9

[pookiebear]

please clean this, holy triple post batman! sorry my internet went down with this was posting.

[ubunterooster]

I had to use IE recently. I hated it. To much focus on being pretty. I think the programs and UI should stay out of the way.

[cgroza]

I'll keep this in mind if I want to ruin my life.

[Old Marcus]

Correct me if I'm wrong, but some people here appear to be confusing IE8 with IE9. The latter's interface is far more usable and less intrusive than the former's, and although I haven't looked too deeply yet, web standards support appears to be in good condition.

Unfortunately, despite how orgasmic IE9 may be, a lot of people are still on IE6/7/8, which means web devs' troubles aren't over yet.

[KiwiNZ]

Correct me if I'm wrong, but most people here appear to be confusing IE8 with IE9. The latter's interface is far more usable and less intrusive than the former's, and although I haven't looked too deeply yet, web standards support appears to be in good condition.

Unfortunately, despite how orgasmic IE9 may be, a lot of people are still on IE6/7/8, which means web devs' troubles aren't over yet.

I am not confused I D/L'd the IE9 Beta yesterday and ran in Win 7 during the evening . First impressions were very favourable.

[Old Marcus]

Sorry, I'll change 'most' to 'some'. My mistake. :P

[jjakspaw6]

I don't think so..... but in the world of tech support I must eventually give in and learn it..... cause there are far too many people in the world that do not know better to stay away from that miserable piece of junk!!

But if it weren't for the intellectually challenged people, willing to pay $$ me.... I wouldnt have a job.

personally, it will not be installed in my home network or office network... just on a crash PCs.

[icechen1]

Honestly though, Microsoft scored an good job on this one, even though it's still lacking in some aspects, like an ad blocker or spell checker that actually works.

[pwnst*r]

I'll keep this in mind if I want to ruin my life.

If that "ruins your life", perhaps you need to get out more.

[whiskeylover]

I would use it to show how I could get a virus on a linux box, or as an example of what NOT to do. Then format and reload fresh.

All the web devs I work with curse MS as the testing of a site takes 4 times the testing time for IE as testing with other browser to make sure a new page/code is working. And yes they are testing with 9

Either you have no idea of how computers work, or you're just trying to troll. There is no way you can get a virus running anything in wine. At most, it will infect your wine environment, but there is no way it can affect your linux installation.

[KiwiNZ]

I don't think so..... but in the world of tech support I must eventually give in and learn it..... cause there are far too many people in the world that do not know better to stay away from that miserable piece of junk!!

But if it weren't for the intellectually challenged people, willing to pay $$ me.... I wouldnt have a job.

personally, it will not be installed in my home network or office network... just on a crash PCs.

Nice , you insult your customers :rolleyes:

[Half-Left]

Honestly though, Microsoft scored an good job on this one, even though it's still lacking in some aspects, like an ad blocker or spell checker that actually works.

The browser is shockingly bad because it's still stuck in the 90s still trying to hold their monopoly up. 15 years later and Microsoft have failed to produce a browser that's crossplatform. It's a decent browser on the standards side only because of competition, not because Microsoft decided to get to 2010.

[ZarathustraDK]

Answer: No I wouldn't use it.

Reason: It's evil[1].

[1] I'm a philosopher[2], so I can say it's evil. ;)

[2] An authority on Good & Evil(tm)

[Frogs Hair]

No, I upgraded to IE 9 beta yesterday and I will keep on Windows where it belongs. I think FF 4 will be a nice browser for Linux when completed . I could understand the interest in using IE 9 , if it was needed for a task another browser couldn't do. I know some sites only allow IE.

[doorknob60]

With all the other great open source browser out there, of course not. Unless it was somehow way better than all the other browsers (which it won't be, it might be good, but not better than Firefox and Chrome and stuff).

[jjakspaw6]

Nice , you insult your customers :rolleyes:



I really try not to... honestly. sometimes they can be very frustrating... I'm the nicest guy you'll ever talk to in support....

[malspa]

No, definitely not.

[Old Marcus]

The browser is shockingly bad because it's still stuck in the 90s still trying to hold their monopoly up. 15 years later and Microsoft have failed to produce a browser that's crossplatform. It's a decent browser on the standards side only because of competition, not because Microsoft decided to get to 2010.

Being crossplatform is a minor issue in the scale of things. FF is successful because it is deployed on Windows. If it had ben developed purely for Linux, you and I are the only people who would have heard about it. Windows still commands over 90% of the desktop market, and that isn't likely to change soon.

Of course, back in the 90's and early 2000s, making websites cross browser compatible wasn't an issue either.

[Half-Left]

Being crossplatform is a minor issue in the scale of things. FF is successful because it is deployed on Windows. If it had ben developed purely for Linux, you and I are the only people who would have heard about it. Windows still commands over 90% of the desktop market, and that isn't likely to change soon.

Of course, back in the 90's and early 2000s, making websites cross browser compatible wasn't an issue either.

Well, no, it's not because FF was deploy on Windows, it's because it's a good web browser. Just because you put your software on an OS that commands a big market share doesn't mean it's going to be successful. If you force it on people like IE, then yes.

[phrostbyte]

No

[devondashla]

Last I heard, we had a picture of it. NOW THERE'S A BETA?!

[corrytonapple]

hell & no!
I still don't get it. Please clarify.:p

What would be the point in using IE..? If I were to develop websites and such it would be a good tool to check for compatibility, but nothing more. Microsoft always hypes up their latest products. IE9 is just going to lag behind, hold everything back, and annoy web developers.

Best bet would be for them to start fresh; IE failed.
Use it to test for web developers? I would make the page see if they are using IE and if so tell them to go get a good browser. That means no IE on my site. It is just a wannabe Google Chrome.

[devondashla]

I still don't get it. Please clarify.:p

Use it to test for web developers? I would make the page see if they are using IE and if so tell them to go get a good browser. That means no IE on my site. It is just a wannabe Google Chrome.

Then be prepared to have no webpage visitors, considering as most of the world is using Windows, most of the world is using IE. But, last I heard Firefox is slowly rising against it.

[Paul820]

NO, i used it recently though when fixing a friends computer i downloaded firefox with it. While downloading i was browsing the web and it was like being inside an amusement arcade with all those flashing adverts. I was nearly hypnotised. I'm not saying that's IE's fault, but with firefox i can block all that rubbish out. I prefer the feel and look of firefox, it's the only one i will ever use. I love all the plugins to make browsing easier.

[RiceMonster]

No. I tried it today. It's an improvement once again, but I still prefer Chrome and Firefox.

[Giant Speck]

IE9? Probably. It wouldn't replace Firefox on my Ubuntu install, though.

IE8? Maybe. I'd probably play around with it every now and then.

IE7? Probably not.

IE6? Hell to the no.

[Presto123]

No. I have it on my brand new computer and within a few days, I installed Chrome and never use it except to watch the live Starz channel on Netflix.

[RainPhantom]

No.

[Khakilang]

My Firefox works and I use Chrome as a back up. So why do I need another browser like IE9 which only take up space. Unless it had some super duper features no browser has. Anyway for a normal user like me I don't need extra browser just because its from Microsoft.

[Letrazzrot]

Yes, but only for the 2% of websites that don't work (or don't work well) with FF. The dreaded "This site requires IE...." message always angers me, means I will probably have to reboot into Windows just to view it.

[v1ad]

hell & no!

amen.

[Dr. C]

Then be prepared to have no webpage visitors, considering as most of the world is using Windows, most of the world is using IE. But, last I heard Firefox is slowly rising against it.

This is not entirely true one would loose about 60% of visitors by blocking IE according to net applications. http://www.netmarketshare.com/browser-market-share.aspx?qprid=0. If the site is targeted to GNU / Linux or Mac Users the loss in visitors would be significantly less.

Still how many Webmasters would want to loose 60% of their traffic?

[wilee-nilee]

Nope, I have IE8 removed from my W7 setup, if I need a website to think I have IE I just use the FF addon user agent switcher. Personally I like FF much better all the way around, Opera is not bad as well.

[v1ad]

yes User Agent Switcher FTW..

[wilee-nilee]

Yes, but only for the 2% of websites that don't work (or don't work well) with FF. The dreaded "This site requires IE...." message always angers me, means I will probably have to reboot into Windows just to view it.

user agent switcher in FF addons check it out. I finished off my Student loans application on the web today, wouldn't recognize FF until I made it look like IE7 with the switcher. My College also uses Blackboard Learning System same thing if I leave FF as usual it runs sometimes but, with FF switched to IE it plays along like I'm actually using the IE browser.

[pwnst*r]

No. I have it on my brand new computer and within a few days,

No you didn't.

[Rasa1111]

No you didn't.

lol
what.:-s

[Blackra1n]

Never ever.

[reyfer]

I see all these threads about using MS software, and this and that, "If IE was available"...."If Office was available"......One of the reasons I came to linux was because those were NOT available. If I wanted to use IE9 I would still be on that OS

[TNT1]

I wouldn't use IE(any version) even if I was on Windows... I'd use FF anywhere.

[t0p]

IE9? Probably. It wouldn't replace Firefox on my Ubuntu install, though.

IE8? Maybe. I'd probably play around with it every now and then.

IE7? Probably not.

IE6? Hell to the no.

But but but what's wrong with IE6?

:p

[s.fox]

As a web developer I probably would use it, though only as a means to see how the pages I create render. I would not use if for non work purposes.

-Silver Fox

[zaphod777]

I haven't seen anyone mention this yet so I will. There are a lot of business applications inside the enterprise that only run on IE. Microsoft's SharePoint is a big one.

I think MS intentionally only makes them compatible with IE to keep the corporate desktop tied in. It is a lot easier ad cheaper to migrate your users to an opensource desktop solution than it is to migrate your whole CMS for the whole company.

If MS was to make IE cross platform they could potentially lose a lot of desktop customers. But I bet the could boast that there is a high demand for IE on Linux from all of the downloads because a lot of people will download it for that blue moon when they need it.

[brydonhunter]

I had to use IE recently. I hated it. To much focus on being pretty. I think the programs and UI should stay out of the way.

That is exactly my feelings about Windows Vista/7... too much eye candy, not enough "getting the job done".

[Old Marcus]

Well, no, it's not because FF was deploy on Windows, it's because it's a good web browser. Just because you put your software on an OS that commands a big market share doesn't mean it's going to be successful. If you force it on people like IE, then yes.

Yes and no, It was successful because it was good, obviously, but my point is no matter how good it was, if it wasn't deployed on Windows as well, it would have been a nonentity.

[kamaboko]

Sure, I'd take it for a spin. If it performed better than Chrome I'd use it full-time. I don't care much for FF.

[BrokenKingpin]

Nope, no need to switch from Chromium.

[Spice Weasel]

Never, never, ever should you go for eye candy over functionality.

People made the same mistake with Vista.

[alexan]

Of course I do: I'll make it run out of the window(s)):P

[EnGorDiaz]

In some ways, I find using IE9 to be a better experience than FF4. (Shock! Horror!) Although this is mainly due to the fact that IE doesn't screw up the display when scrolling over flash videos. When comparing two betas, I find IE9 to be better quality wise atm, although you can't really judge it until the final release.

ewwwww but it renders everything directly under gpu load

[Toz]

No

[kpkeerthi]

If IE9 ever runs on Linux, it would be the first known Linux virus!

[BigCityCat]

Well I have been trying it out on Win7 just to see what it's like. It's not bad.

What I do like is using Privoxy with it. It makes Ie9 a lot faster.

[CandidMan]

Saw this (http://newsarse.com/2010/09/16/microsoft-launches-its-latest-way-to-infuriate-internet-users/?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+Newsarse+%28Newsarse.com%29) and thought it was pertinent, a bit unfair and cynical, but funny.

But, yeah I'd give it a shot. All that market research has got to result in something better(?)

[Lucifer The Dark]

Personally I wouldn't even use it with Windows let alone pollute Linux with it.

[Chame_Wizard]

No thank you.:P

[Old Marcus]

You guys make me laugh, if Microsoft came out with an open source program that was light, speedy, secure, better than anything ever and gave you free sex every hour, people would still hate it. :P Haters gotta hate I suppose.

[corrytonapple]

Then be prepared to have no webpage visitors, considering as most of the world is using Windows, most of the world is using IE. But, last I heard Firefox is slowly rising against it.
Well, I am all for it. Also, realize here, I am not alone. There is someone else on here that does the same thing with IE visitors. Read the rest in my next comment.

This is not entirely true one would loose about 60% of visitors by blocking IE according to net applications. http://www.netmarketshare.com/browser-market-share.aspx?qprid=0. If the site is targeted to GNU / Linux or Mac Users the loss in visitors would be significantly less.

Still how many Webmasters would want to loose 60% of their traffic?
MEEEE! Why, because it is a site for Ubuntu problems, Apple Problems, and when I get on, Windows 7 problems. Do I care? No, because people need to realize that there are alternatives. Notice that IE only runs on one of three of my site pages. Anyway, give them reasons and they will take the alternative because they are uneducated about IEs problems and didn't even know there was a different way. Anyway, Microsoft does it. I tried to get on one of their sites and was told I need Windows or Mac. If a big company like them can do it, I can too. I understand that the Ubuntu population is less, but still there is plenty of us out there. When I first turned on my laptop, I went on IE and straight to Firefox's website.

If IE9 ever runs on Linux, it would be the first known Linux virus!
Here is a good reason.

[pwnst*r]

You guys make me laugh, if Microsoft came out with an open source program that was light, speedy, secure, better than anything ever and gave you free sex every hour, people would still hate it. :P Haters gotta hate I suppose.

^This.

[Lucradia]

No, I would not.

[roddie]

Even if IE9 became available on Linux, I've no need to ever change from Opera.

[NCLI]

You guys make me laugh, if Microsoft came out with an open source program that was light, speedy, secure, better than anything ever and gave you free sex every hour, people would still hate it. :P Haters gotta hate I suppose.

I, for one, would use that application. Just like I love and use CUPS despite hating Apple.

[alexan]

You guys make me laugh, if Microsoft came out with an open source program that was light, speedy, secure, better than anything ever and gave you free sex every hour, people would still hate it. :P Haters gotta hate I suppose.

Not hater... but if I were you, and knowing Microsoft, I'll try to get more details... at the last for the "free sex every hour" part.
Avoids having to discover that you can not sit for some more weeks.


You never know :p

[Dustin2128]

No. I would still actively discourage use of internet explorer, in fact.

[Rasa1111]

You guys make me laugh, if Microsoft came out with an open source program that was light, speedy, secure, better than anything ever and gave you free sex every hour, people would still hate it. :P Haters gotta hate I suppose.

Big IF there.
and you
make me laugh. :lol: :lolflag: lol

ive never used IE,
not even all the years i used windows.
simply because it sucks.
not because MS made it. lol
durpdurp.

[Half-Left]

You guys make me laugh, if Microsoft came out with an open source program that was light, speedy, secure, better than anything ever and gave you free sex every hour, people would still hate it. :P Haters gotta hate I suppose.

For starters, it's about principles. I would never use something from Microsoft(that required me to pay them) or support them in any way and the same goes for Apple.

Principles are important and I don't support such companies based on them, so Microsoft can take their IE and well, guess the rest.

[KiwiNZ]

You guys make me laugh, if Microsoft came out with an open source program that was light, speedy, secure, better than anything ever and gave you free sex every hour, people would still hate it. :P Haters gotta hate I suppose.


People like Bandwagons, many of the haters have no idea what they are hate or who they hate they just like the Bandwagon.

[Rasa1111]

no way Kiwi~
covered wagons are far better than bandwagons. lol :P

[Arex Bawrin]

This is a great question! I absolutely hate Microsoft but I can't let emotion get involved IF they can put out a great browser that is supposedly 5x faster than Chrome. Competition will only make the open source community work harder to beat M$

[Zoot7]

If it had Firefox's repertoire of add-ons, I don't see why not.

[foxxxy]

Hey, I would try it out, considering that they ported it to Linux? Why not?

[Austin25]

Absolutely not. I want as little as possible to do with Microsoft.

[uRock]

I only opened IE8 once on my W7 install and that was to download Firefox, so the answer is no.

[wkhasintha]

Meh! I don't bother. [-([-(

[Sand & Mercury]

The new version is shaping up really well. If it had the same kind of extensibility like Chrome and FF have, I'd probably use it.

It's funny to note the mere mention of IE on this forum really can bring out the idiot in people.

[Presto123]

No you didn't.

Sorry, sir. You are correct. It is IE8. Nonetheless, they will need to really do some work for me to enjoy it.

[V for Vincent]

I really doubt it. The first thing I do after I've installed windows anywhere is download chrome or firefox or opera. I'll give it a test drive if it pops in because of a windows update, though.

[Merk42]

It's funny to note the mere mention of IE on this forum really can bring out the idiot in people.
This. Though pretty much anything by Microsoft.

IE9 could hypothetically support even more features than all browsers combined and be the fastest and be available for Linux and people would still call it bad (most before even trying it) simply because it was made by Microsoft.

[Dr. C]

Here is a site that breaks every version of IE up to IE8. http://www.fsf.org. We will see if IE9 renders the Free Software Foundation's site correctly.

[TNT1]

IE9 could hypothetically support even more features than all browsers combined and be the fastest and be available for Linux and people would still call it bad (most before even trying it) simply because it was made by Microsoft.

I'd try it. Same as I tried Chrome, Chromium, Midori, Ice Weasel, Safari, and so on. I just always seem to go back to FF or Konqueror. Not cause I think MS is the source of all evil, but cause I like the way I work with those browsers. The same way I use Ubuntu, I like the way I work with it, and it works with me, not cause there is anything wrong with choosing to use windows.

[Dragynn]

It won't even work on Windows XP, which is still the most widely used operating system in existence, THEIR OWN BROWSER WON'T EVEN WORK ON THEIR OWN OS!

Shoot no i'm not gonna try it, not on linux, not on anything, i've used previous versions of IE, and it's been outclassed junk since IE7. MS keeps trying to kill XP to get people to buy their new stuff, first with service pack 3, then with "no more support" statements, now this...planned purposeful obsolescence so they can rake in more dough.

[uRock]

I had that problem with W2000 and not being able to upgrade to IE7.

[Merk42]

Here is a site that breaks every version of IE up to IE8. http://www.fsf.org. We will see if IE9 renders the Free Software Foundation's site correctly.If I remember to, I'll try it when I get back to work on Monday.


It won't even work on Windows XP, which is still the most widely used operating system in existence, THEIR OWN BROWSER WON'T EVEN WORK ON THEIR OWN OS!Please show me the indicator applet and Ubuntu One for Hardy

[jerenept]

If I remember to, I'll try it when I get back to work on Monday.

Please show me the indicator applet and Ubuntu One for Hardy

^^this. XP is outdated; it needs to be replaced.

[alexan]

Please show me the indicator applet and Ubuntu One for Hardy

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/b/b5/Operating_system_usage_share.svg/600px-Operating_system_usage_share.svg.png
if Hardy was 50% of this planet global market share (or 50% of Canoinical business)... you'll see the indicators applet and Ubuntu One for it..

this or someone in the 50% global market share of this planet would add it anyway: starting from Hardy sources.

On contrary Microsoft need that no one will keep use XP.

need because they want to make people pay them for a windows license update.


if today there wouldn't be Firefox, Opera and Chrome.. there wasn't absolute chance for XP user to have html5.
Firefox, Opera and Chrome will bring html5 to the 50% global market share (without imposing it through Windows Update)... as well to the other 49,8% of global market share.

[Merk42]

if Hardy was 50% of this planet global market share (or 50% of Canoinical business)... you'll see the indicators applet and Ubuntu One for it..
I'm pretty sure Canonical doesn't backport any new features to past releases, feel free to correct me. As such you're making quite the assumption in a hypothetical situation.

EDIT: Just realized you're the user I went back and forth with in a previous thread. So you're pretty much the type I was referring to earlier about never using anything made by Microsoft simply because it's made by Microsoft

[Rasa1111]

On contrary Microsoft need that no one will keep use XP.

need because they want to make people pay them for a windows license update.

no doubt.

want to use your PC? PAY UP! *insert barf emoticon here*



I'm pretty sure Canonical doesn't backport any new features to past releases, feel free to correct me. As such you're making quite the assumption in a hypothetical situation.

Thats why he said "someone would make it"

[KiwiNZ]

Here is a site that breaks every version of IE up to IE8. http://www.fsf.org. We will see if IE9 renders the Free Software Foundation's site correctly.

Then they need to learn to build a Web site correctly ;)

Actually that site has always looked a mess no matter what OS you use and what ever browser you view in.

[Dr. C]

Then they need to learn to build a Web site correctly ;)

Actually that site has always looked a mess no matter what OS you use and what ever browser you view in.

Actually the FSF site passes W3C validation with flying colours. http://validator.w3.org/check?uri=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.fsf.org%2F. It is IE not the site.

[KiwiNZ]

Actually the FSF site passes W3C validation with flying colours. http://validator.w3.org/check?uri=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.fsf.org%2F. It is IE not the site.

It renders in IE9 the same as Safari and FF and Chrome but it still looks and abomination as if someone went crazy with a box of Crayolas. The attachment is a capture from IE 9

[Dragynn]

Actually the FSF site passes W3C validation with flying colours. http://validator.w3.org/check?uri=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.fsf.org%2F. It is IE not the site.

Yep.

IE and it's "quirks" mode, what a load of crap, PITA especially if you are trying to code a website, you unfortunately HAVE to keep a copy of the IE8 garbage somewhere on some machine you don't care about, to see what your code THAT LOOKS RIGHT ON EVERY OTHER BROWSER IN THE WORLD, will look like to the unfortunate IE8 user, and then hack various workarounds.

To quote Capt. Kirk :"Khan, i'm LAUGHING at the "superior" intellect".

:popcorn:

[Dr. C]

Yep.

IE and it's "quirks" mode, what a load of crap, PITA especially if you are trying to code a website, you unfortunately HAVE to keep a copy of the IE8 garbage somewhere on some machine you don't care about, to see what your code THAT LOOKS RIGHT ON EVERY OTHER BROWSER IN THE WORLD, will look like to the unfortunate IE8 user, and then hack various workarounds.

To quote Capt. Kirk :"Khan, i'm LAUGHING at the "superior" intellect".

:popcorn:

A VM running Windows 2000 and IE6 will do fine for this purpose. IE7 and IE8 are slightly better than IE6 when it comes to web standards but still very bad. (IE8 scores a pathetic 20/100 on acid3, while IE6 is somewhat more pathetic at 12/100 on acid3). On the other hand IE9 may actually be on par with with Firefox as far as a Web standards, with an acid3 test in the 95% range and it renders the FSF site correctly. So there is still some hope for Microsoft.

[corrytonapple]

I would be fine if Microsoft comes out with a good browser. Good for them. I like Ubuntu and want to be able to use it without a huge customer data base. It will not make me switch if I am happy with what I have now.

[nerdy_kid]

never

[1nv151b13.b0b]

do you have a brain?!?!?!?!?!?!?!
last time i checked, people (me) don't like viruses...

[CharlesA]

No need to necro a dead thread. Closed.