The Newegg 'Supreme Combo Series' computer

[kamaboko]

If ya got around $6k burning a hole in your pocket.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboBundleDetails.aspx?ItemList=Combo.466347

[Windows Nerd]

If ya got around $6k burning a hole in your pocket.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboBundleDetails.aspx?ItemList=Combo.466347

I wouldn't wan't to buy that even if I had unlimited amounts of money: the color of that case just puts me of so much...

[NMFTM]

Only one CPU? If I had that kind of money I'd buy an SMP board and install two.

[cascade9]

Only one CPU? If I had that kind of money I'd buy an SMP board and install two.

Gamers system. You could run 2 Xeons, and on a good day you might get a 1-10% increase in framerates, but its hardly worth it.

[CharlesA]

Gamers system. You could run 2 Xeons, and on a good day you might get a 1-10% increase in framerates, but its hardly worth it.

Bingo. SLI would probably be a "cheaper"/easier way to increase framerates, but I'm not a huge gamer, so I don't see the point.

Too much money to spend on a computer (imho). There are better things you can do with 6 grand.

Also: Holy crap @ 1300 for a video card.

[Lucradia]

ATI sucks anyway, I'd rather have one GTX 480.

[sydbat]

WOW! I just built a BETTER box for a client and he only spent $1200 for ALL the parts. I guess it depends if your city has a quality, low cost computer parts store (we are spoilt in Calgary).

[CharlesA]

WOW! I just built a BETTER box for a client and he only spent $1200 for ALL the parts. I guess it depends if your city has a quality, low cost computer parts store (we are spoilt in Calgary).

What sort of build?

[kamaboko]

WOW! I just built a BETTER box for a client and he only spent $1200 for ALL the parts. I guess it depends if your city has a quality, low cost computer parts store (we are spoilt in Calgary).

Better, is subjective.

In no way would I spend $6K for a computer. Hell, I wouldn't spend a $1K today. Been there done that.

[Delvien]

Such a waste of money... heck I just spent $600.00 on brand new parts that can play any game out today, including Dx11 games, on high settings, max resolution.

These builds are a joke.

[sydbat]

What sort of build?AMD 6 core, 8GB Corsair RAM, 2 Samsung Lightscribe Blu-Ray DVD-RW, same HDD's as link, same PS, different case, Gigabyte board, same sound card, 2GB nVidia.

Of course, we got lucky with certain things on sale, so that might account for the lower price. Oh, and no Windows! That saved ~$400.

[cascade9]

Bingo. SLI would probably be a "cheaper"/easier way to increase framerates, but I'm not a huge gamer, so I don't see the point.

Too much money to spend on a computer (imho). There are better things you can do with 6 grand.

Also: Holy crap @ 1300 for a video card.

Already running Crossfire. In 2 GPU x 2 setup as well.....


AMD 6 core, 8GB Corsair RAM, 2 Samsung Lightscribe Blu-Ray DVD-RW, same HDD's as link, same PS, different case, Gigabyte board, same sound card, 2GB nVidia.

Of course, we got lucky with certain things on sale, so that might account for the lower price. Oh, and no Windows! That saved ~$400.

Better value? Yes, much. Better overall? Sorry, no.

The main reasons why that system is so expensive is the i7 980X (thats $1K US just there), the stupidly expensive video cards ($2.6K) 12GB of triple cahnnel RAM ($520) and the case ($500). The rest of the system isnt quite so crazy....(though I wouldnt run 2 x SSDs)

[CharlesA]

Already running Crossfire. In 2 GPU x 2 setup as well.....

...

The main reasons why that system is so expensive is the i7 980X (thats $1K US just there), the stupidly expensive video cards ($2.6K) 12GB of triple cahnnel RAM ($520) and the case ($500). The rest of the system isnt quite so crazy....(though I wouldnt run 2 x SSDs)

Yikes! I didn't notice that it was running 2 of them in Crossfire. Cripes!

But yeah, take away those 2 video cards, the 12GB of RAM and the 1K i7. It's not a bad build. Horribly overpriced but not all that "bad."

[NCLI]

Better, is subjective.

No it isn't. When comparing two desktop computers, assuming they both have the same noise level and power consumption, the more powerful one is obviously better.

ATI sucks anyway, I'd rather have one GTX 480.
For Linux users, this is true, but only because of the drivers. ATi's GPUs are superior hardware-wise, and with the proper drivers, it shows (http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/graphics-card-radeon-hd-5870-geforce-gtx-480,2621-6.html).

[sdowney717]

In 3 or 4 years all that technology will be in standard computers
In ten years it will be on the street as trash.
http://armigatus.files.wordpress.com/2010/01/old-computer-trashed.jpg

[kamaboko]

No it isn't. When comparing two desktop computers, assuming they both have the same noise level and power consumption, the more powerful one is obviously better.

And you proved my point. Power consumption is not a deal breaker for me. Value is subjective.

[Spike-X]

That's insane. I recently build myself a very decent computer, including 24" monitor, for less than the price of that CPU.

[julio_cortez]

I built myself the PC you see in the sig for just the price of that CPU. That is insane indeed..

BTW, am I the only one that thinks there's something missing? you spend 6K on a computer.. And no liquid cooling?
A system like that is for someone who researches extreme performance, so it is likely to be overclocked. If it's overclocked it will easily turn into an oven, so fans will have to run at max speed.. Liquid cooling should be a must in order not to make it too noisy/hot..
They could have included it in the offer -_-'

[cascade9]

And you proved my point. Power consumption is not a deal breaker for me. Value is subjective.

I'd agree. Value IS subjective.

That system costs a lot more than it should (you could build a system for a quater of the cost that would be 85%+ as fast).

Of course, some people might like spending $1300 (each!) on video cards that are 'sold in a combo only', and overpriced (5870 X2 is just a funny way of making a 5970, which sell of HALF the cost of the 5870 X2)

That system is a joke....and the joke is on anybody who thinks that combo deal is anywhere near sane. IMO, newegg is just 'trying it on'.


I built myself the PC you see in the sig for just the price of that CPU. That is insane indeed..

BTW, am I the only one that thinks there's something missing? you spend 6K on a computer.. And no liquid cooling?
A system like that is for someone who researches extreme performance, so it is likely to be overclocked. If it's overclocked it will easily turn into an oven, so fans will have to run at max speed.. Liquid cooling should be a must in order not to make it too noisy/hot..
They could have included it in the offer -_-'

A system like that is for somebody who thinks that 'combo deals' will be a good deal, and has a lot of money burning a hole in thier pocket. Anybody who has done some reasearch could fnd something better.

Neweggs water cooling selection is pretty awful.

IMO, almost all the water coling kits are &#$&^#$ crap. These days, a lot of the time it really doesnt help much for noise, or overclocking. A nice aftermarket heatsink + fan is easier to install, almost as quiet, almost as cool, with none of the sodding around that you have to do with watercooling.

With that case having 3 x 120mm intake fans, I doubt it would get too noisy....120mm fans are pretty quiet.

BTW, long time water cooling user here......

[julio_cortez]

BTW, long time water cooling user here......
Never used one in my life.
I've just seen a friend of mine that had it and it somehow helped reaching higher frequencies while overclocking without heating too much..
Mine was an assumption based on this, more than a fact indeed :p

But I have to agree: someone that spends 6K on a PC just for gaming, or is extremely wealthy (I expect the sons of Berlusconi or Bill Gates or *insert the name of a tycoon here* be able to do it) or is insane.. Or both, probably :D

[Ctrl-Alt-F1]

I can has? :D

[cascade9]

Honestly...water cooling DOES help. But compared to a nice aftermarket heatsink with 120mm fans, in a case with decent airflow, it doesnt help a huge amount.

When I was running water cooling, the majority of cases (even good cases) only had 80mm fans.

I really should try to get my watercoolign back up and running, the only reason why I havent is because of the changing mounting holes on motherboards. Hopefully, the Pentium D I'm (probably) going to be getting in the next week or so will have the mounting holes that will work with my waterblock. :)

[CharlesA]

Indeed. CPU sockets change so often (or so it seems) that it's a pain if you want to keep up with it.

What shop do you (did you?) get yer watercooler stuff at?

I've been a fan of frozencpu.com, but they have a boatload of modding stuff too.

[Grenage]

Watercooling is handy, but not as useful as it once was. Nowadays I just use 2 x 240mm fans for case ventilation, and a large, quiet CPU fan. If I bothered to get another passively-cooled GFX, it would be near silent.

[cascade9]

I got a water block + radiator (cica late 2001/early 2002 I forget exactly) from a local shop here called "gamedude". Who I really cant recommend to anybody, there are better places to get the stuff from locally now. The pump + tubing was from a fish shop. I really should have made my own radiator, but I was lazy.

http://www.gamedude.com.au/

Awful name :(

[Lucradia]

(we are spoilt in Calgary).

eh heh heh... (http://dagobah.net/flash/PW_Boot_to_the_head.swf)


Indeed. CPU sockets change so often (or so it seems) that it's a pain if you want to keep up with it.

What shop do you (did you?) get yer watercooler stuff at?

I've been a fan of frozencpu.com, but they have a boatload of modding stuff too.

AMD Bulldozer needs a new motherboard (Your AM3 won't work.) You have to wait for AM3r2.

[98cwitr]

worse 6k you could spend...if I was going to blow $6k on a desktop, I'd build this:



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In 3 or 4 years all that technology will be in standard computers
In ten years it will be on the street as trash.
http://armigatus.files.wordpress.com/2010/01/old-computer-trashed.jpg

idk man, technology demands have slowed down drastically over the past 5 years...I built my machine over 3 years ago, and even without the SSD, I really could still see myself using it for the next 5-6 years.

[Brent0]

Those graphics cards are not overpriced when you look at the specs and the design of the card.

-A 5970 is basically 2 underclocked 5870's with 2GB of memory.
-The Ares is 2 overclocked 5870s with 4GB of memory and an amazing heatsink.

A 2GB 5870 is $500+ so if you put 2 of them on a single PCB it will come out to $1000. Plus, Asus has done some amazing things with the design of this card. The heatsink on this thing is a beast. Just look at the pictures on Newegg.
If you have two of these monsters in crossfire, you essentially have the most powerful gaming computer in the world. ;)
It even beats 4 480s in SLI. :o

[cascade9]

AMD Bulldozer needs a new motherboard (Your AM3 won't work.) You have to wait for AM3r2.

Thankfully, you can (OK, should, we wont know untill much closer to release) run a current AM3 CPU in the AM3+ 'bulldozer' motherboards.

Its a different socket in some ways, but physically it will be the same as the current AM3/AM2+/AM2 sockets, and I doubt that the mounting pattern will change. :)


worse 6k you could spend...if I was going to blow $6k on a desktop, I'd build this:

idk man, technology demands have slowed down drastically over the past 5 years...I built my machine over 3 years ago, and even without the SSD, I really could still see myself using it for the next 5-6 years.

3K+ on a 512GB SSD is almost, or even just as crazy as those video cards in the newegg build.

I spose, if you arent a gamer, and want to blow a lot of money the SSD is a much better choice though :)


Those graphics cards are not overpriced when you look at the specs and the design of the card.

-A 5970 is basically 2 underclocked 5870's with 2GB of memory.
-The Ares is 2 overclocked 5870s with 4GB of memory and an amazing heatsink.

A 2GB 5870 is $500+ so if you put 2 of them on a single PCB it will come out to $1000. Plus, Asus has done some amazing things with the design of this card. The heatsink on this thing is a beast. Just look at the pictures on Newegg.
If you have two of these monsters in crossfire, you essentially have the most powerful gaming computer in the world. ;)
It even beats 4 480s in SLI. :o

Its only a slight 'underclock' on the 5970s.

The Ares is NOT overclocked. Itrs using the stock 5870 850MHz core, memoryspeed, etc. The only real difference is that has 4GB, not 2GB. The HD 5970 Eyefinity will have the same speeds if/when it gets released.

You could get 2 x 5970s for less than a single one of those cards, and if its possible, 3 x 5970s in triple crossifre would be faster, apart from possibly RAM pig games, but I dont know of ANY game that wants 4GB+ anyway. It would also be a damn sight cheaper. 2GB 5970s are avaible for under $600 now.

Quad 480s in SLI would be for the criminally insane.....it would be pulling at LEAST 1000wats, and possibly over 1200watts....

http://www.hardware.info/nl-NL/articles/amdnampoZGCa/Clash_of_the_Titans_3way_SLI_GTX_480_test/

IMO, it is a stupid amount of money to spend on a single card. Would anyone, even a hardcore "I run on 2560x1600 on ful detail and AA/AF" gamer even need that amount of power now anyway?

BTW, if its not overpriced then why is newegg only selling them in a 'I have more money than sense' package only?

[Legendary_Bibo]

Do you know what's sad? This will be outdated in about two years.