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MetalMusicAddict
February 16th, 2005, 03:00 PM
So far my Ubuntu experience has been great. I only have a handful of things to get done to make a switch. :) 1 thing is a full featured CD ripper/encoder. I use Audiograbber on the win side. Im tryin to avoid using WINE. Lookin for something native.

rufius
February 16th, 2005, 03:31 PM
So far my Ubuntu experience has been great. I only have a handful of things to get done to make a switch. :) 1 thing is a full featured CD ripper/encoder. I use Audiograbber on the win side. Im tryin to avoid using WINE. Lookin for something native.
Try looking into grip. I use it all the time, it allows for encoding of several different formats including mp3, ogg, flac and a few more I can't remember.

ember
February 16th, 2005, 03:36 PM
Hi,

there is SoundJuicer and Grip, of which I prefer grip. But I'm afraid there's nothing as good as EAC on the Linux side (it's actually one of the apps I really miss).

Yet I have encoded several albums with grip at quality 6 and they sound reasonalby good - actually these were mainly metal bands, so if you like, I can post my configuration, should work for you too.

Best,
Ember

Dylanby
February 16th, 2005, 03:37 PM
I use Sound Juicer.

MetalMusicAddict
February 16th, 2005, 03:44 PM
Ill look at both. Thanx guys. \m/

rwabel
February 17th, 2005, 05:33 PM
there is also ripperX, but I so far prefer grip!

MetalMusicAddict
February 17th, 2005, 05:37 PM
Its funny I new of ripperx before I knew about EAC or Audiograbber. :) I have it on now. APT-GET is great.

rwabel
February 17th, 2005, 06:23 PM
I prefer GRIP because if hat more features, especially with ID TAGS. Maybe I'm wrong, but with RipperX you can't define them.

rwabel
February 17th, 2005, 06:45 PM
If someone achieves to make special character like etc work within one of them, please let me know.
In grip I tried with UTF-8 as it shoudl be and with the ISO stuff. In ripperx I even didn't find a way to define it. That's sad

kassetra
February 18th, 2005, 01:21 AM
have you tried goobox (http://www.gnomefiles.org/app.php?soft_id=531)? goobox has encoding settings that should allow you to specify quality, plus some other nice features. It's a cd-player/ripper... goobox and sound juicer are actually in competition to be the "replacement for gnome-cd" ...

screenshots of goobox (http://www.gnome.org/%7Epaobac/goobox/)

I'm going to try it because sound juicer just isn't doing it for me right now.

K6-III
February 18th, 2005, 04:45 AM
Speaking of goobox, the version in Universe needs an update. Current is 0.7.2, but Universe has 0.6

rwabel
February 18th, 2005, 06:27 PM
goobox looks sweet, but the mp3 encoding preferences are very limited and he doesn't recognize my mp3 endoer :-(
And no way to set ID Tags, Filename, etc for extracting the songs.

kassetra
February 18th, 2005, 07:32 PM
rwabel: I know this is going to sound like a hassle, but until Ubuntu's universe is updated with version 0.7.2 (which has more features such as track editing), you could probably use easytag (http://www.gnomefiles.org/app.php?soft_id=415) to edit the id3tags, filenames, etc. in bulk..

Also, make sure you write to the developers of goobox and let them know what you think is missing from their app.

wolovids
February 18th, 2005, 07:37 PM
Debian Sid (http://packages.debian.org/cgi-bin/search_packages.pl?keywords=goobox&searchon=names&subword=1&version=unstable&release=all) has goobox 0.7.2. I just added a good Sid repository and installed it no problem.

Good luck.

rwabel
February 18th, 2005, 07:45 PM
rwabel: I know this is going to sound like a hassle, but until Ubuntu's universe is updated with version 0.7.2 (which has more features such as track editing), you could probably use easytag (http://www.gnomefiles.org/app.php?soft_id=415) to edit the id3tags, filenames, etc. in bulk..

Also, make sure you write to the developers of goobox and let them know what you think is missing from their app.

I took the it from source, so I'm using also 0.7.2 :-)
I know I could use easytag, but the use of such tools is to have it all automated. Means getting id tags from feecdb or similar. then be able to add or change what you need in the id tags. Then be able to rip and encode (mp3 or whatever with optional commands) on the fly. Then you should be able to define how he writes the filename and generates the directory.

I know it's a lot but, ripperX and Grip are both very close to it.

The idea to write the developers is good. Will see what they can do.
thanks

oddabe19
February 18th, 2005, 08:36 PM
Soundjuicer: I find cuts off the beginning of each track and puts it onto the end of the previous track when ripping. i.e. if a track is 4:00 and the next track is 3:00... sound juicer would rip it as 4:02 and 2:58, it just blends it in.

But it's quick.

Grip: Slower, in my opinion, very configurable, very nice.... but has a hard time distingishing capital letters and other characters.

Goobox: very nice, rips well, great cd player, in general a very nice ripper. Downside: based off of gstreamer (yucky!)

MetalMusicAddict
February 18th, 2005, 11:03 PM
Not that I can do better. Im really just a user, but doesnt it seem to me that there would be a really great MP3 ripper for linux? EAC and Audograbber kill anything on linux. It seems like anything it takes $ to get something done really well. Or money in it somehow.

ember
February 18th, 2005, 11:31 PM
I would agree with you that there is no application that compares to EAC on Linux yet. I have the impression that audio under Linux is still under heavy development. Maybe it will take another year or two for it to produce applications that match their windows pendants.

Yet I'll have a look a goobox, could be at least a very cool CD Player. (note to myself: maybe I should give muine a try too)

btw: Has anybody tried running EAC in wine?

BWF89
February 19th, 2005, 02:11 AM
MP3 players for (non-commercial) Linux distros are illigle. I'm turning you into the athoriorties! :grin:

MetalMusicAddict
February 19th, 2005, 06:35 AM
I would agree with you that there is no application that compares to EAC on Linux yet. I have the impression that audio under Linux is still under heavy development. Maybe it will take another year or two for it to produce applications that match their windows pendants.

Yet I'll have a look a goobox, could be at least a very cool CD Player. (note to myself: maybe I should give muine a try too)

btw: Has anybody tried running EAC in wine?
EAC is on the WINE page as an app that you can run. Im lookin into it.

br0adband
February 19th, 2005, 10:55 PM
Realistically speaking, and I say this based on using EAC for almost 5 years now, it's not *that* important. Really, it's not.

I've done countless tests using EAC and several scratched/dirty/fingerprint laden CDs I have that set off the C2 error correction. I've used special CDs I purchased for calibrating CD players (I am a tech, yanno) and in the long run, EAC rips CDs just like the rest of them.

I used to sit there and do Secure ripping with CD after CD after CD after CD constantly, spending hours trying to create the "perfect rip" to pass to LAME to encode.

I recently decided to some down and dirty real-world testing. I used several of the damaged CDs I have (damaged to the point where playback in a normal CD player doesn't work without skipping) and fired up EAC under WinXP and let it go. I'm using a laptop CDRW/DVD combo drive that is Accurate Stream/Cached/C2 compliant.

The results weren't surprising.

With EAC Burst and EAC Secure, the checksums were always the same - every single time - in over 100 test rips I did. I would rip the data in Burst mode, eject the CD, put it back in, rerip in Secure and every single time the checksums were always verified. This happened on 40 CDs using about 105 test tracks chosen at random but they were all tracks known to *not* play correctly without skips in a normal CD player used for audio playback.

I know EAC is nice; I wouldn't have used it so long if it wasn't. But 5 years ago it was special, and a completely unique program. Nowadays, with the quality of CD and DVD drives being what they are, EAC Secure mode seems like a waste of time since it gives the same data to your MP3 encoder that Burst mode does - only much slower.

You can do these tests yourself, yanno. Just get a damaged CD with at least one track that won't play normally. Set EAC for Burst mode, then right click on the track you want to rip (the damaged one), choose Test - Uncompressed and let it rip to create a checksum. Write down the checksum since when you eject the CD EAC will clear the drive's contents.

Put that CD back in, change EAC to Secure mode and redo the Test - Uncompressed. I'm almost 100% positive the checksum will be the same as the Burst mode.

EAC is a fantastic ripper - quite possibly the best ever made, but seriously, isn't there a point of diminishing returns here? Would your ears hear a single bit or two out of place?

Another source for great information about audio encoding is:

http://www.hydrogenaudio.org

Just my $.02.

Paul

MetalMusicAddict
February 19th, 2005, 10:59 PM
Thanx for the reply but do you know of something as good for linux? ;)

br0adband
February 19th, 2005, 11:02 PM
I'm still learning myself since I'm new to Ubuntu. Haven't quite gotten to the point where I'd be ripping music anymore, I have several thousand mp3 files as it is.

Take the advice of the others in this thread since they're more than likely way ahead of me using Ubuntu/Linux. I asked some friends in some tech IRC channels I live in and they said grip also, so give that a shot.

Good luck!

Paul

ps
Let us know what you chose and why, too. Might help someone else in this quest.