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russ0228
August 17th, 2010, 10:52 AM
hello to all in here. i am a complete nivice to computers in the most part.
the question i am hoping someone kind enough could answer the following

i have a 2006/7 hp pavilion laptop which has served me well (i think) but i now have a new computer, yet would love to keep the older one in service. i was considering the possisbility to switch over to ubuntu on the older model but i am not sure if it is even right for me.

basically what i want to do is hook up my hpnlaptop to my t.v. and use it as a media pc for the living room. i have been told that ubuntu would speed up my old laptop. so my questions are as such;

1- will it do well as a media pc
2- will my photoshop elements 7 work along side it aswell as my other programs such as dvd shrink and the like.

thanks

mastablasta
August 17th, 2010, 10:57 AM
1- yes
2- no, unless you create a dual boot (run Linux alongside Windows, but you can only run one at a time).

russ0228
August 17th, 2010, 11:06 AM
if i can't run photoshop what can i run that is the same. also can i run my dvd shrink and the like?

HistoryMac
August 17th, 2010, 11:08 AM
if i can't run photoshop what can i run that is the same. also can i run my dvd shrink and the like?

The GIMP is fairly similar to Photoshop. There are a multitude of other free alternatives around too. DVD59 I believe is very similar to DVD Shrink. I'd very much support a choice to "move to the dark side". ;) There's lots to be learnt from the experience too, Ubuntu was one of my first steps a couple of years ago into the world of computing, and now I'm learning to write applications and am quite capable with pretty much any random bit of tech you throw at me. Linux is definitely worth installing, for the experience (if nothing else).

russ0228
August 17th, 2010, 11:08 AM
shoot i also forgot to ask if my hp all in one printer will still work aswell
thanks

TNT1
August 17th, 2010, 11:10 AM
shoot i also forgot to ask if my hp all in one printer will still work aswell
thanks

Generally most HP printers work 100%. My 2480 all in one works perfect.

Grenage
August 17th, 2010, 11:11 AM
Best thing you can do, is load a LiveCD and take a look around. It will be a lot slower than a real install, bit at least you can test out printer functionality, et cetera.

A normal HP printer would be no problem, but I've never used an all-in-one.


PS: When running a media PC, take a look at xbmc - it's great.

Paul820
August 17th, 2010, 11:11 AM
shoot i also forgot to ask if my hp all in one printer will still work aswell
thanks

What make is it? I have an HP C5280 All-in-one and i just plugged it in and it worked perfectly.

russ0228
August 17th, 2010, 11:12 AM
good lord this forumis quick for answers!! :D

themusicalduck
August 17th, 2010, 11:14 AM
HP generally have really good support for printers. I have an all-in-one HP printer that works great including the scanner.

Here are a couple of things that might serve your purpose for the media centre - http://www.mythbuntu.org/ http://xbmc.org/

But first I would just download and burn Ubuntu CD and test it out using a Live CD session. Then you could either install it through Windows with WUBI (just for testing only) then if you decide you want to keep it, then install fully.

Take a look at www.ubuntu-manual.org It covers just about everything to do with trying out Ubuntu for the first time.

HistoryMac
August 17th, 2010, 11:14 AM
It's really a matter of just being prepared to spend a little time playing around with it. 99% of the time there'll be something that doesn't work out of the box and, contrary to what you might think, that's a good thing. Why? Because that's where the learning and the involvement with the community begins and, for me at least, that's one of the best things about Linux :D

russ0228
August 17th, 2010, 11:14 AM
its an hp photosmart with touch screen??? bought it 7months ago from pc world for about 80.00

MrWES
August 17th, 2010, 11:16 AM
I've always thought that going to Ubuntu was moving from the darkside, into the light.

ronnielsen1
August 17th, 2010, 11:17 AM
1. The more memory the better. (You will want at least 512 M) You do realize you can try a live cd /dvd without making any changes, right? If you're going to use it as a media cd, there are other distros (media center ones) that might be better (and use Ubuntu for your main box)
http://linux.softpedia.com/get/System/Operating-Systems/Linux-Distributions/Element-GNU-Linux-49170.shtml
http://www.makeuseof.com/tag/enna-a-new-and-exciting-linux-media-center/
http://www.geexbox.org/
http://www.extremetech.com/article2/0,2845,2367455,00.asp

2. Well actually the 2 you mentioned will work in wine
http://appdb.winehq.org/objectManager.php?sClass=version&iId=15722
http://appdb.winehq.org/objectManager.php?sClass=version&iId=2230

There's also programs like Virtualbox that allow you to run Windows inside of linux (or the other way)

Paul820
August 17th, 2010, 11:18 AM
I've always thought that going to Ubuntu was moving from the darkside, into the light.

Yeah....the light.....follow the light....:D

ronnielsen1
August 17th, 2010, 11:19 AM
Yeah....the light.....follow the light..

Carol Ann!

russ0228
August 17th, 2010, 11:19 AM
:lolflag:

thanks for everything so far folks!! ..... so far

mastablasta
August 17th, 2010, 11:28 AM
2. Well actually the 2 you mentioned will work in wine
http://appdb.winehq.org/objectManager.php?sClass=version&iId=15722
http://appdb.winehq.org/objectManager.php?sClass=version&iId=2230

There's also programs like Virtualbox that allow you to run Windows inside of linux (or the other way)


yes, but to run it you might need more powerful computer than in native OS. if computer is already reaching it's limit and is running slow then this might just slow it down even more.

GIMP is a very good picture editing programme (you can check out the windows version if you like). But it is still far from latest jaw dropping photoshop CS.

cespinal
August 17th, 2010, 11:46 AM
hello to all in here. i am a complete nivice to computers in the most part.
the question i am hoping someone kind enough could answer the following

i have a 2006/7 hp pavilion laptop which has served me well (i think) but i now have a new computer, yet would love to keep the older one in service. i was considering the possisbility to switch over to ubuntu on the older model but i am not sure if it is even right for me.

basically what i want to do is hook up my hpnlaptop to my t.v. and use it as a media pc for the living room. i have been told that ubuntu would speed up my old laptop. so my questions are as such;

1- will it do well as a media pc
2- will my photoshop elements 7 work along side it aswell as my other programs such as dvd shrink and the like.

thanks


1) Yes. There are plenty of media center solutions for linux. Moovida, Boxee, XBMC among them.
2) Windows native programmes will not run in Linux. Here you have plenty of options:
a)Seeking for a Linux alternative to a windows app. Some Linux apps even surpass Windows apps. Some other will just not be as polished or feature rich. Try them and make yourself confortable.
b) Use an app called Wine to run windows apps in Linux... Wine, to me, is mainly a failure.
c) Dual boot. With this, when you turn on your computer, a menu will appear asking you to boot either windows or linux. This one works okay but it will force you to share disk space among the operating systems.
d) Last option: Virtualization. There is a app called Virtualbox that lets you run an OS inside of another. It seems complicated but in the practice is the most hassle free and simplest way to go. After 3 years with Ubuntu, this has been my definitive choice and I totally love it. This is my recommendation.

Hope this helps.

russ0228
August 17th, 2010, 12:28 PM
okay i am trying out the cd. however the wireless that worked in windows now doesn't seem to work, any ideas

cascade9
August 17th, 2010, 02:01 PM
also can i run my dvd shrink and the like?

You can run DVD shrink in WINE, but there are easy linux native ripping/encoding software around as well. DVD:rip, K9Copy, Handbrake, and lots of others. ;)

silverglade00
August 17th, 2010, 03:28 PM
okay i am trying out the cd. however the wireless that worked in windows now doesn't seem to work, any ideas

All of the HP laptops that I have used had Broadcom wireless chips in them. They need special drivers to use. Go to System - Administration - Hardware Drivers and choose the Broadcom STA driver. The only problem is that since you are using a live CD, it will stop working when you reboot and you will have to do it again next time.

MrWES
August 17th, 2010, 06:54 PM
Or connect via a CAT 5 cable and run the update manager; reboot; and then see if wireless works.

Bill

cespinal
August 17th, 2010, 09:54 PM
All of the HP laptops that I have used had Broadcom wireless chips in them. They need special drivers to use. Go to System - Administration - Hardware Drivers and choose the Broadcom STA driver. The only problem is that since you are using a live CD, it will stop working when you reboot and you will have to do it again next time.

1+This....

Once you install Ubuntu, you will be able to download the driver permanently.