Ubuntu helps Linux?

[sulekha]

Hi all,

see this :- http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LsjMbWXIcoA

[pwnst*r]

omg pottymouth

[PaulReaver]

maybe so?

but such is the nature of open source.

novell, red hat, everyone is free to do whatever they want with the me menu source code.

[PaulReaver]

omg pottymouth
I think you mean omFg pottymouth!

[_h_]

http://www.kernel.org/

I don't see where it says that it is mandatory to give back to the kernel anywhere on the website, does anyone else?

[PaulReaver]

semantics?

[Bachstelze]

http://www.kernel.org/

I don't see where it says that it is mandatory to give back to the kernel anywhere on the website, does anyone else?

Freedom of speech much? Canonical is free to take and give nothing back, people are free to say what they think of it.

[ve4cib]

So Canonical doesn't contribute much to the kernel. So what?

There's a lot more to Linux than just the kernel. There's the marketing (Ubuntu, as far as I know, is the only distro in recent history to have gotten a major manufacturer [Dell] to sell systems pre-installed with their species of Linux), there's the repo-management and packaging everything, there's the UI stuff they've been working on (the UNR, "windicators", global menu, etc...), and so on. Canonical has made the most popular distro, and have helped to improve Linux's footprint in the world.

Canonical might not be a great kernel contributor, but to say that they're not helping Linux is a pretty drastic overstatement from what I can see.

[Iowan]

Sorry for all the edits - it was either clean up the thread or jail it. Show me I made the right choice ;)

[PaulReaver]

They might not contribute much to the kernel, but is the artwork on ubuntu any less important? Canonical takes the best open source has to offer and adds a bit of polish. It's the poster distro for linux.


Iowan? here you? what did I write that deserved a clean up? spelling?
anyway what state is to the south of iowa? lol

[Bachstelze]

They might not contribute much to the kernel, but is the artwork on ubuntu any less important?

For the Linux community at large, the importance of Ubuntu artwork is exactly zero.

[Frogs Hair]

I think what the person said in the video is true . I wonder why a Linux developer would take the time to publicly belittle Canonical's contributions to Linux ? Is this a personal matter ?

[lovinglinux]

http://www.jonobacon.org/2010/07/30/red-hat-canonical-and-gnome-contributions/

[rjbl]

Wottawierdthread.

Canonical have designed; integrated; published and maintain, free to the world, a decent GNU/Linux desktop computing system which has world-wide appeal and utility. The bottle that they have bought to the party is system integration.

The skills and resources that they have made available are different from kernel development; are different from server application development and are different from end-user application development. I am sure we can all agree that these area's are all in good hands within the Open / Free computing community. The free developers have turned Linus's itch, which he had to scratch, into, perhaps, the most powerful and capable OS kernel available for the small computer architecture today. The GNU community have developed, and maintain, the OS and server apps which are the backbone of global computing today. The free 'X' community have developed, and maintain, a highly effective graphic front end to Grand Old UNIX. The GNOME and K communities have developed and maintained highly effective GNU/Linux desktop environments. Each has contributed to the highly usable GNU/Linux that we can enjoy today.

What are the high-level system integrators delivering? Simple, whether they are consumer-focussed like Canonical; Engineer-focussed like Fedora or Business-focussed like SuSe, they are all delivering assured systems with appropriate functionality secured by reliable updating and patching of OS and installed user applications. Canonical is as good as it gets in meeting that objective. The long term goals of the GNU/Linux movement are surely served by establishing a capable highly usable system out here in Userworld

My tuppence worth

ATB
rjbl

[ZarathustraDK]

Canonical as a corp may not bring much to the table in terms of in-house developed code, but honestly I think that they more than make up for this with the sheer amount of converts Ubuntu has perpetrated.

Not that it is a requirement to give back to the eco-system when you run your business on it in the first place. Anyone could set up shop supporting Ubuntu like Canonical do and make money off of it; sure, Canonical may beat you because they rolled the distro and know the kinks and quirks of it, but I wouldn't call that an unfair advantage.

[mikewhatever]

Hi all,

see this :- http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LsjMbWXIcoA

Look at the date, December 19, 2009. As you can imagine, it's been discussed to death multiple times.

[Sporkman]

Merge this thread with:

http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1542305

[Grifulkin]

So Canonical doesn't contribute much to the kernel. So what?

There's a lot more to Linux than just the kernel.


NO THERE IS NOT, LINUX IS THE KERNEL. Jesus Christ.