Do you tip cab drivers if they smell bad?

[Starring_Emma]

My sister and I went into town today and we took a cab home and I gave him exact change (no tip) because he smelled like a dumpster.

[TheNerdAL]

Give him a deodorant as a tip. :P

[razorboy5]

technically u dont have to tip anyone

but my dad taught me to tip $2 even for bad service

[Hman242]

I wouldn't have tipped him. You're supposed to tip when someone's service was satisfactory. If he can't be kind enough to bathe or use deodorant then he shouldn't get a tip.

[Giant Speck]

Since I've never had the misfortune of riding in a taxi driven by a man with a body odor problem, I cannot answer this thread's titular question. But hypothetically speaking, I don't think I would tip the driver in such a situation.

[NovaAesa]

In Australia it's generally not required socially to tip anyway.

[pwnst*r]

I wouldn't.

[nubimax]

In Mexico you only tip a taxi driver if he does something special for you. IE: carry your bags in to the hotel or something of that nature. If the gas station attendant cleans your windshield or anything else you tip him/her.
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[Legendary_Bibo]

I don't tip anyone. They're doing their job, it's not my job to pay your salary. For instance I go into a restaurant and order food, I won't tip. Why? Because waiters and waitresses make minimum wage even if they don't make their pay with tips. I can cook anything I've had a restaurant, and so I consider the higher price is due to the chef making it for me. I've done really crappy jobs for less than minimum wage so I don't feel sympathy for a waitress that has to carry a plate 3 feet and is forced to smile. That's their job. Scratch the "I don't tip anyone", I have actually tipped the chef before, and I do it in person if they do a job better than I could.

[chriswyatt]

Yeah, I only tip if I feel I've had an exceptional service, or if I'm in a generous mood / drunk.* Taxis here in the UK are too expensive as it is.

Isn't there a culture in America where in certain places you HAVE to tip?! Surely that's a service charge, not a tip?

[pwnst*r]

I don't tip anyone. They're doing their job, it's not my job to pay your salary. For instance I go into a restaurant and order food, I won't tip. Why? Because waiters and waitresses make minimum wage even if they don't make their pay with tips. I can cook anything I've had a restaurant, and so I consider the higher price is due to the chef making it for me. I've done really crappy jobs for less than minimum wage so I don't feel sympathy for a waitress that has to carry a plate 3 feet and is forced to smile. That's their job. Scratch the "I don't tip anyone", I have actually tipped the chef before, and I do it in person if they do a job better than I could.

Sounds like you're just cheap.

[chris200x9]

I don't tip anyone. They're doing their job, it's not my job to pay your salary. For instance I go into a restaurant and order food, I won't tip. Why? Because waiters and waitresses make minimum wage even if they don't make their pay with tips. I can cook anything I've had a restaurant, and so I consider the higher price is due to the chef making it for me. I've done really crappy jobs for less than minimum wage so I don't feel sympathy for a waitress that has to carry a plate 3 feet and is forced to smile. That's their job. Scratch the "I don't tip anyone", I have actually tipped the chef before, and I do it in person if they do a job better than I could.

I think they make under minimum wage on the grounds they do get tips.

edit: http://www.dol.gov/wb/faq26.htm

[Legendary_Bibo]

Sounds like you're just cheap.

:p haha naw. You just develop a grudge when you find out how a waitress can make a couple hundred bucks over the weekend (4 hours a day mind you) when you had to work over 40 hours just to make that after taxes. I used to tip until I found out how much they can make.

[pwnst*r]

Well they only make that if they're REALLY good at what they do.

[Giant Speck]

Well they only make that if they're REALLY good at what they do.

Not true; physical appearance tends to help, as well.

Well, unless it's Hooter's. Then, of course, it's part of the job.

[pwnst*r]

That's part of "workin' it"

[schauerlich]

:p haha naw. You just develop a grudge when you find out how a waitress can make a couple hundred bucks over the weekend (4 hours a day mind you) when you had to work over 40 hours just to make that after taxes. I used to tip until I found out how much they can make.

Oh yeah, those waitresses, they're just rolling in the dough. :rolleyes:

I hate it when people are haughty towards retail/food service/customer service people.

[Legendary_Bibo]

Oh yeah, those waitresses, they're just rolling in the dough. :rolleyes:

I hate it when people are haughty towards retail/food service/customer service people.

There are worse jobs that pay less. ;)

[pwnst*r]

Lol, you're cheap AND you live in Scottsdale?

[Legendary_Bibo]

Lol, you're cheap AND you live in Scottsdale?

There's North Scottsdale and South Scottsdale. I live in South Scottsdale, and there's a huge difference between peoples' incomes.

[schauerlich]

There are worse jobs that pay less. ;)

You can use that excuse with any job.

Except poopsmith (http://www.homestarrunner.com/yearbookps.html). That's the lowest of lows.

[Giant Speck]

ITT: Legendary_Bibo is jealous of waitresses.

[Legendary_Bibo]

You can use that excuse with any job.

Except poopsmith (http://www.homestarrunner.com/yearbookps.html). That's the lowest of lows.

I shoveled horse manurer 40 hours a week for a month at minimum wage during summer. So yeah...unless a waitress gives me a "foot massage" I see no reason to tip her.

[DougieFresh4U]

I don't tip anyone. They're doing their job, it's not my job to pay your salary. For instance I go into a restaurant and order food, I won't tip. Why? Because waiters and waitresses make minimum wage even if they don't make their pay with tips. I can cook anything I've had a restaurant, and so I consider the higher price is due to the chef making it for me. I've done really crappy jobs for less than minimum wage so I don't feel sympathy for a waitress that has to carry a plate 3 feet and is forced to smile. That's their job. Scratch the "I don't tip anyone", I have actually tipped the chef before, and I do it in person if they do a job better than I could.
Don't know where you get your info, but waiters and waitress do NOT get paid the minimum wage. I was a waiter for over 20 years and worked for Disney World/Pleasure Island and never got minimum wage. My pay was about $3 less than minimum wage.
Please don't get me started on tipping:roll:

[Legendary_Bibo]

Don't know where you get your info, but waiters and waitress do NOT get paid the minimum wage. I was a waiter for over 20 years and worked for Disney World/Pleasure Island and never got minimum wage. My pay was about $3 less than minimum wage.
Please don't get me started on tipping:roll:

They changed the law back in 2009 IIRC.

[DougieFresh4U]

They changed the law back in 2009 IIRC.
Ok, I will take back some of what I said. But the employer still uses tips to base what they will pay to waiter/waitress:
From the United States Dept. of Labor (http://www.dol.gov/wb/faq26.htm)

According to the Fair Labor Standards Act, tipped employees are individuals engaged in occupations in which they customarily and regularly receive more than $30 a month in tips. The employer may consider tips as part of wages, but the employer must pay at least $2.13 an hour in direct wages.

An employer may credit a portion of a tipped employee's tips against the federal minimum wage of $7.25 per hour effective July 24, 2009. An employer must pay at least $2.13 per hour. However, if an employee's tips combined with the employer's wage of $2.13 per hour do not equal the hourly minimum wage, the employer is required to make up the difference.

The employer who elects to use the tip credit provision must inform the employee in advance and must be able to show that the employee receives at least the applicable minimum wage (see above) when direct wages and the tip credit allowance are combined. If an employee's tips combined with the employer's direct wages of at least $2.13 an hour do not equal the minimum hourly wage, the employer must make up the difference. Also, employees must retain all of their tips, except to the extent that they participate in a valid tip pooling or sharing arrangement.

Any ways, this thread is about cab drivers, so back on track, I have never taken a cab.

[Legendary_Bibo]

Ok, I will take back some of what I said. But the employer still uses tips to base what they will pay to waiter/waitress:
From the United States Dept. of Labor (http://www.dol.gov/wb/faq26.htm)

According to the Fair Labor Standards Act, tipped employees are individuals engaged in occupations in which they customarily and regularly receive more than $30 a month in tips. The employer may consider tips as part of wages, but the employer must pay at least $2.13 an hour in direct wages.

An employer may credit a portion of a tipped employee's tips against the federal minimum wage of $7.25 per hour effective July 24, 2009. An employer must pay at least $2.13 per hour. However, if an employee's tips combined with the employer's wage of $2.13 per hour do not equal the hourly minimum wage, the employer is required to make up the difference.

The employer who elects to use the tip credit provision must inform the employee in advance and must be able to show that the employee receives at least the applicable minimum wage (see above) when direct wages and the tip credit allowance are combined. If an employee's tips combined with the employer's direct wages of at least $2.13 an hour do not equal the minimum hourly wage, the employer must make up the difference. Also, employees must retain all of their tips, except to the extent that they participate in a valid tip pooling or sharing arrangement.

Any ways, this thread is about cab drivers, so back on track, I have never taken a cab.

Yep, which defeats the whole risk of taking on such a job.

[chriswyatt]

ITT: Legendary_Bibo is jealous of waitresses.

I don't blame him. I used to have a washing up job and no one ever tipped me for the clean plate that they were eating off, not one! Also chefs rarely got tipped as well, waiters/waitresses take most of the glory sadly.

I suppose it's the customers' faults for forgetting about the hot, sweaty chefs and the pot-washers.

[kajankow]

So what if they are rich or "rolling in it" or not as fortunate as me. Just giving them a few bucks makes me feel good and it will help them somewhere down the line in life. And even if it does not, I feel good doing it.

[schauerlich]

I shoveled horse manurer 40 hours a week for a month at minimum wage during summer. So yeah...unless a waitress gives me a "foot massage" I see no reason to tip her.

I'll make sure to tip my next poopsmith, then.

[neoargon]

The custom of giving tip is only in rich countries , so I can't answer

[hansdown]

I don't suffer from egocentrism, so I tip for good service.