View Full Version : I say, Evolution still sucks. So what--you wanna fight about it?
lumix
July 30th, 2010, 02:09 PM
I don't. But either way, if linux could BSOD, it would every time I start Evolution. Crash, crash, crash.
Just want to put that out there. Feel free to throw this in the cafe you like.
georgemc
July 30th, 2010, 07:00 PM
My experience.
From the first day of my 10.04 installation and Evolution usage I did experience daily if not hourly crashes. I have been using Evolution since I switched in summer of '09 using Ubuntu 9.04 and it never crashed on me in 9.04. Standard POP3/SMTP setup.
I followed and posted my logs on these bug reports.
https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/evolution/+bug/576346
and
https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/evolution/+bug/582653
I also, early on, downloaded the newer version from the “PPA” ( I think thats what its called ). That version was 2.30. It didn't crash as much. My synaptic repository entry:
http://ppa.launchpad.net/jacob/evo230/ubuntu
Since a few weeks ago one of the “major/security” updates made the crashes go away. I do not know which one did it, but I'm happy that Evolution is now running for weeks with out crashing. FYI I leave my computer on 7/24. My current Evolution version is 2.30.2
Hope this helps.
George
KdotJ
July 31st, 2010, 01:37 AM
I don't. But either way, if linux could BSOD, it would every time I start Evolution. Crash, crash, crash.
Just want to put that out there. Feel free to throw this in the cafe you like.
Use an alternative?
Thunderbird perhaps?
Marctwo
July 31st, 2010, 01:50 AM
When I installed Ubuntu a few weeks ago (my first linux) I set about transferring my Outlook Express settings/etc to Evolution. The instructions I found included an intermediate stage of importing to Thunderbird and then transferring from there. However, I found it so conveniently simple to transfer everything to and from Thunderbird that I decided to stick with that instead.
BlazeFire247
July 31st, 2010, 02:22 AM
I wanted to use Evolution, but I'm used to going on the email's main site itself. I just can't be bothered to remove it, though.
Iowan
July 31st, 2010, 02:38 AM
Since it doesn't seem to be a support request, perhaps the Cafe is a better place.
alexfish
July 31st, 2010, 02:51 AM
mm
heard of this terminology whilst working abroad
suggest
read here
http://wiki.answers.com/Q/What_is_the_meaning_of_%27It_sucks%27
Can't think why such a title as the above is allowed
>>>>>> remove
JustinR
July 31st, 2010, 02:53 AM
Evolution has never crashed on me but I wish it had support for more than 1 mail box.
YuiDaoren
July 31st, 2010, 02:57 AM
Evolution has never crashed on me but I wish it had support for more than 1 mail box.
Yeah. I just make a mail filter for each account to sort mails into folders, for now.
WinterMadness
July 31st, 2010, 03:01 AM
thunderbird should just come default
JustinR
July 31st, 2010, 03:03 AM
thunderbird should just come default
The evolution backend has hard-ties into Ubuntu so thats not going to happen.
WinterMadness
July 31st, 2010, 03:06 AM
then ubuntu should change because evolution sucks
matthew.ball
July 31st, 2010, 03:33 AM
Never had Evolution crash. Works perfect for me.
Mr. Picklesworth
July 31st, 2010, 05:21 AM
The current Ubuntu ships with 2.28, which is a horrible mess. 2.30 works a lot better. They pruned a bunch of cruft. Ubuntu Lucid didn't ship it because of all that pruning (nobody really knew how it would react). At this point, it would have been a good idea, but who knew? :)
There are a few PPAs around with 2.30, or you can wait for Maverick. Either way, it's a lot quicker, there's a slightly less horrific looking Express version (which trims a few things from the user interface) and it doesn't depend on Bonobo any more.
At this point, I honestly like Evolution. The user interface is an ugly beast, but the underlying technology is nice. I think we'll see some cool stuff happening in the future, too. Meego for netbooks has Evolution behind all its PIM stuff, hence some really cool bits and pieces in the user interface (like new mail, tasks and appointments on the home screen).
The user interface is entirely detached from the Evolution server, so one can happily make an alternative mail client or calendar app where all the heavy lifting is handled by Evolution for free. That means lots of applications can happily access that same data to do cool things.
jerenept
July 31st, 2010, 05:42 AM
The evolution backend has hard-ties into Ubuntu so thats not going to happen.
I removed Evolution once; bad idea. gnome-panel depends on it.
JonasDK
July 31st, 2010, 11:58 AM
I like Evolution. I handle three mailboxes with it (1 POP3 and 2 IMAP's) and it does the job perfectly. Interface is very 'workable'.
NightwishFan
July 31st, 2010, 12:14 PM
You can remove it, you just have to set it up to not use recommended packages as required in synaptic.
Spike-X
July 31st, 2010, 11:03 PM
thunderbird should just come default
It does in Linux Mint. Mint doesn't have Evolution itself pre-installed, but does have a lot of the backend stuff mentioned above.
Legendary_Bibo
July 31st, 2010, 11:14 PM
I've never tried Thunderbird, but I think Evolution is pretty good. I've never used a mail client before, it's actually my first one I've ever used, and it was easy to set up. I just have a problem sending e-mail through yahoo currently because of some SMTP authentication thingy. I'll have to try getting that sorted out. The biggest use I got out of it was clearing out my 10,000 or so e-mails out of my hotmail for once.
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