Boycott Droid X

[ssj6akshat]

http://www.mydroidworld.com/forums/droid-x-discussion/3330-how-droid-x-locked-down-let-me-tell-you-what-i-know.html

Motorola wants to take away our freedom,boycott them don't buy the droid.Droid is what kept motorola in business,Droid X will put an X to it.I'd rather buy an iPhone rather than Droid X because it will at least be customizable after jailbreak.



Boycott Droid X

[gnomeuser]

Motorolas attempts to keep the platform locked down will only attract more people trying to break it. Regardless I will still be rooting for the Droid 2, it looks awesome.

[Excedio]

It will get rooted. It will just take a lot of bricked phones before it happens. About the Droid 2...it will likely be the same issue and the Droid X may be setting a precedence.

[ticopelp]

Well, since I had no plans to buy one anyway, easiest boycott ever!

[Cam!]

Why is hacking a mobile device a big deal? I've been involved with the iPhone/iPod touch's community since 2007, and as of 2010, the homebrew apps are awful. Ever since the App Store + Android Market were launched, every single major homebrew developer simply moved on to those platforms.

Not being able to do one specific thing isn't going to completely ruin your experience; not to mention the only two good uses for hacking your device, at least in these days, are for piracy, and video game emulators.

[Dragonbite]

Man I hope they don't screw up the Droid before I get one!

[MaxIBoy]

To Motorola: HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA good luck with that!


Well, since I had no plans to buy one anyway, easiest boycott ever!+1

[LeifAndersen]

Agreed...although it may turn out that the droidx isn't actually using said efuze (if it is, it's a no go for me): http://twitter.com/mrweeeedbirdman

http://www.androidcentral.com/droid-x-booby-trap-controversy (read the comments as well).

[LowSky]

What is the problem exactly?

Motorola wants a product that is customers can't break, like over clocking the processor and frying the phone. Secondly Verizon wants a phone that doens't use services your not paying for like tethering.

What is wrong with a company trying to protect their business?

Heck I have a Droid Incredible and I dont plan on unlocking it. It does everything I want.

[Cam!]

What is the problem exactly?

Motorola wants a product that is customers can't break, like over clocking the processor and frying the phone. Secondly Verizon wants a phone that doens't use services your not paying for like tethering.

Some people are under the impression that official software distribution platforms are awful, because they won't let people do potentially harmless things like that.

Face it. When it comes to the mobile community, the homebrew community lost the war.

[RiceMonster]

What is the problem exactly?

Motorola wants a product that is customers can't break, like over clocking the processor and frying the phone. Secondly Verizon wants a phone that doens't use services your not paying for like tethering.

What is wrong with a company trying to protect their business?

Heck I have a Droid Incredible and I dont plan on unlocking it. It does everything I want.

It restricts your freedom, man!

[Cam!]

How does it restrict freedom? What can you possibly put on your device that....

A. Doesn't have a superior alternative on the Android Market.
B. Doesn't drastically change performance to the extent where the device itself might be in danger?

[RiceMonster]

How does it restrict freedom? What can you possibly put on your device that....

A. Doesn't have a superior alternative on the Android Market.
B. Doesn't drastically change performance to the extent where the device itself might be in danger?

I was kidding around ;).


As soon as I read "Motorola wants to take away our freedom" in the OP, I couldn't take this thread seriously.

[MCVenom]

Some people are under the impression that official software distribution platforms are awful, because they won't let people do potentially harmless things like that.

Face it. When it comes to the mobile community, the homebrew community lost the war.
I won't have Flash or Android 2.2 until Motorola is finally merciful enough to give it to me.

...is what I'd say if I hadn't rooted.

You show a complete lack of knowledge of the Android platform and modding community. What's homebrew? Android users can install any app they want, Market or not so it's not about that. It's about ROMs, OS hacks and the like. :P

@OP I'm passing up the Droid X, I don't care to encourage them. I'll take their suggestion and get a Nexus as my 'side Android device to play with'. :P

[Cam!]

Is Flash that important? Every single major Flash-intensive thing on the net has its own App on the Android Market or App Store, like YouTube, Hulu, Netflix, etc.

Hell, you can even go on websites like Break.com on those devices, since more and more sites are beginning to make the switch to HTML5.

[MCVenom]

How does it restrict freedom? What can you possibly put on your device that....

A. Doesn't have a superior alternative on the Android Market.
B. Doesn't drastically change performance to the extent where the device itself might be in danger?

A. Why wouldn't it be in the Market? This isn't the App Store, it's not about apps. Android allows installing from Non-Market sources out of the box anyway.
B. Have you ever actually owned an Android phone? I really don't think you get what's going on here. Go ask that question here: http://www.xda-developers.com/ or here: http://www.droidforums.net/forum/droid-hacking/. You might learn some interesting things about the benefits of rooting. And piracy is a non-issue; you can install stolen apps without root.

[MCVenom]

Is Flash that important? Every single major Flash-intensive thing on the net has its own App on the Android Market or App Store, like YouTube, Hulu, Netflix, etc.

Hell, you can even go on websites like Break.com on those devices, since more and more sites are beginning to make the switch to HTML5.
No, but Froyo is much more so. It's much faster, responsive and generally more awesome than Eclair. :P

[j.bell730]

False alarm (http://www.droid-life.com/2010/07/15/enough-with-the-efuse-talk-already/).

[MCVenom]

False alarm (http://www.droid-life.com/2010/07/15/enough-with-the-efuse-talk-already/).
Yeah, I knew the eFuse thing was a false alarm. The encrypted bootloader is still an annoyance though :P

[KiwiNZ]

How does it restrict freedom? What can you possibly put on your device that....

A. Doesn't have a superior alternative on the Android Market.
B. Doesn't drastically change performance to the extent where the device itself might be in danger?

It will stop you turning your phone into a multi tasking super computer or server :P

[amitabhishek]

Some people are under the impression that official software distribution platforms are awful, because they won't let people do potentially harmless things like that.

Face it. When it comes to the mobile community, the homebrew community lost the war.

LOL!:p

Oh Dear! Where do I start. You gotta read this wiki (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/CyanogenMod)


ANDROID: Google, HTC, Qualcomm, and everybody else. We <3 U
Common: Deskclock extra settings - cyanogen, mtwebster
Common: ADWLauncher 0.9 - Ander Webbs
Common: Music app enhancements - Eliot Stocker
Common: Phone mod V.30.1 - cytown
Common: WyContacts 1.2 - Wysie (port to Froyo by Sileht)
Common: Superuser 2.2.2 - Adam Shanks (ChainsDD)
Common: MMS enhancements from Ruqqq, Takuo Kitame, jeagoss
Common: Improved RTL text rendering - David Kohen, Omri Baumer
Common: Themable user interface elements - Wysie, bcrook, jeagoss
Common: FLAC playback support - Kenny Root, Cyanogen, Glenn Maynard
Common: Lockscreen enhancements - Wysie
Common: Long-press home options - Wysie, bcrook
Common: OpenVPN support - James Bottomley, Takuo Kitame
Common: Br0tips - Kmobs
Common: Browser incognito mode - Optedoblivion
Common: Zipalign on install (if needed) + system dex cache to /cache - Cyanogen/Chris Soyars
Common: Customizable Nexus LWP - Chris Soyars/Cyanogen
Common: JIT toggle, configurable heapsize, compcache supprt - Cyanogen
Common: Adjustable haptic feedback - Michael Webster
Common: Custom wallpapers - jairomeo, prash, SatanR1
Common: Battery percentage display - canadiancow, jeagoss
Common: Trackball wake, trackball unlock, menu unlock - Jon Boekenoogen/Kmobs
Common: Surfaceflinger night mode and effects - Jeff Sharkey
Common: Reflow webviews on pinch option - Jonas Larsson
Common: Enhanced accelerometer settings - Jonas Larsson
Common: A2DP bugfixes - Glenn Maynard
Common: Browser fullscreen mode and other enhancements - Wysie
Common: Translations: Takuo Kitame, Matthias Büchner, Eug89
Common: Major build system enhancements by Chris Soyars & Koush
Common: Long press volume buttons to skip songs - Jon Boekenoogen
Common: Accelerated ARMv7 JPEG decoding - Qualcomm
Common: Patch wrangling - Cyanogen, Chris Soyars, Koush
Common: Bluetooth HID support - Erin Yueh @ 0xlabs
Common: Mouse pointer support - Chih-Wei Huang (android-x86)
Common: Configurable install location + allow move any app to external storage - Cyanogen
Common: Busybox, nano, and libncurses are now built from source. - cvpcs
N1/DS: Kernel 2.6.34 with Pershoot/Kmobs clock settings


and this too^^. This is a changelog of latest Cyanogenmod ROM which was released few days back and is still in beta. 100,000 users have already downloaded this ROM. I've too flashed this because HTC never pushed an update. Whether its about giving multi-touch support, app2sd, tethering, customized launchers, file managers, FLAC support, locking home screen in memory, enabling SWAP, comp caching, providing bootloaders, updating kernel blah blah. Community has given a lot to Android ecosystem.

Bottom line is there is a huge community working selflessly and endlessly to make Android experience better. Your rant against so called homebrew community smells of ignorance. No matter how rational and logical you sound; Motorola decision of locking DroidX is against opensource philosophy. If a company doesn't provide a SPL (second program loader); there is nothing much a developer community can do.

[MCVenom]

Some people are under the impression that official software distribution platforms are awful, because they won't let people do potentially harmless things like that.

Face it. When it comes to the mobile community, the homebrew community lost the war.LOL!:p

Oh Dear! Where do I start. You gotta read this wiki (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/CyanogenMod)


ANDROID: Google, HTC, Qualcomm, and everybody else. We <3 U
Common: Deskclock extra settings - cyanogen, mtwebster
Common: ADWLauncher 0.9 - Ander Webbs
Common: Music app enhancements - Eliot Stocker
Common: Phone mod V.30.1 - cytown
Common: WyContacts 1.2 - Wysie (port to Froyo by Sileht)
Common: Superuser 2.2.2 - Adam Shanks (ChainsDD)
Common: MMS enhancements from Ruqqq, Takuo Kitame, jeagoss
Common: Improved RTL text rendering - David Kohen, Omri Baumer
Common: Themable user interface elements - Wysie, bcrook, jeagoss
Common: FLAC playback support - Kenny Root, Cyanogen, Glenn Maynard
Common: Lockscreen enhancements - Wysie
Common: Long-press home options - Wysie, bcrook
Common: OpenVPN support - James Bottomley, Takuo Kitame
Common: Br0tips - Kmobs
Common: Browser incognito mode - Optedoblivion
Common: Zipalign on install (if needed) + system dex cache to /cache - Cyanogen/Chris Soyars
Common: Customizable Nexus LWP - Chris Soyars/Cyanogen
Common: JIT toggle, configurable heapsize, compcache supprt - Cyanogen
Common: Adjustable haptic feedback - Michael Webster
Common: Custom wallpapers - jairomeo, prash, SatanR1
Common: Battery percentage display - canadiancow, jeagoss
Common: Trackball wake, trackball unlock, menu unlock - Jon Boekenoogen/Kmobs
Common: Surfaceflinger night mode and effects - Jeff Sharkey
Common: Reflow webviews on pinch option - Jonas Larsson
Common: Enhanced accelerometer settings - Jonas Larsson
Common: A2DP bugfixes - Glenn Maynard
Common: Browser fullscreen mode and other enhancements - Wysie
Common: Translations: Takuo Kitame, Matthias Büchner, Eug89
Common: Major build system enhancements by Chris Soyars & Koush
Common: Long press volume buttons to skip songs - Jon Boekenoogen
Common: Accelerated ARMv7 JPEG decoding - Qualcomm
Common: Patch wrangling - Cyanogen, Chris Soyars, Koush
Common: Bluetooth HID support - Erin Yueh @ 0xlabs
Common: Mouse pointer support - Chih-Wei Huang (android-x86)
Common: Configurable install location + allow move any app to external storage - Cyanogen
Common: Busybox, nano, and libncurses are now built from source. - cvpcs
N1/DS: Kernel 2.6.34 with Pershoot/Kmobs clock settingsand this too^^. This is a changelog of latest Cyanogenmod ROM which was released few days back and is still in beta. 100,000 users have already downloaded this ROM. I've too flashed this because HTC never pushed an update. Whether its about giving multi-touch support, app2sd, tethering, customized launchers, file managers, FLAC support, locking home screen in memory, enabling SWAP, comp caching, providing bootloaders, updating kernel blah blah. Community has given a lot to Android ecosystem.

Bottom line is there is a huge community working selflessly and endlessly to make Android experience better. Your rant against so called homebrew community smells of ignorance. No matter how rational and logical you sound; Motorola decision of locking DroidX is against opensource philosophy. If a company doesn't provide a SPL (second program loader); there is nothing much a developer community can do.


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Said much better than I could say it, thank you.

[RJARRRPCGP]

It restricts your freedom, man!

And I hear that it literally self destructs!:evil:

[Dustin2128]

lol!:p

oh dear! Where do i start. You gotta read this wiki (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/cyanogenmod)



and this too^^. This is a changelog of latest cyanogenmod rom which was released few days back and is still in beta. 100,000 users have already downloaded this rom. I've too flashed this because htc never pushed an update. Whether its about giving multi-touch support, app2sd, tethering, customized launchers, file managers, flac support, locking home screen in memory, enabling swap, comp caching, providing bootloaders, updating kernel blah blah. Community has given a lot to android ecosystem.

Bottom line is there is a huge community working selflessly and endlessly to make android experience better. Your rant against so called homebrew community smells of ignorance. No matter how rational and logical you sound; motorola decision of locking droidx is against opensource philosophy. If a company doesn't provide a spl (second program loader); there is nothing much a developer community can do.
+∞

[FeTTo]

Just want to let you guys know..your all on crack lol. The droid x is the best phone ive ever owned

[Merk42]

Just want to let you guys know..your all on crack lol. The droid x is the best phone ive ever owned

But but, you can't root it to do things that potentially go against the contract you signed to get the phone in the first place!
I'm boycotting all TVs and microwaves because I can't root them to install custom software on them!

[MCVenom]

Lots of condescension here. :roll:

A good argument has already been put forth. But of course, that means nothing to you all. I'll just let this topic devolve into ignorance, good night.

[Groucho Marxist]

But but, you can't root it to do things that potentially go against the contract you signed to get the phone in the first place!
I'm boycotting all TVs and microwaves because I can't root them to install custom software on them!

"I wouldn't touch that 'Popcorn' setting on the microwave. For some reason, it fries the kernel."

[ssj6akshat]

LOL!:p

Oh Dear! Where do I start. You gotta read this wiki (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/CyanogenMod)



and this too^^. This is a changelog of latest Cyanogenmod ROM which was released few days back and is still in beta. 100,000 users have already downloaded this ROM. I've too flashed this because HTC never pushed an update. Whether its about giving multi-touch support, app2sd, tethering, customized launchers, file managers, FLAC support, locking home screen in memory, enabling SWAP, comp caching, providing bootloaders, updating kernel blah blah. Community has given a lot to Android ecosystem.

Bottom line is there is a huge community working selflessly and endlessly to make Android experience better. Your rant against so called homebrew community smells of ignorance. No matter how rational and logical you sound; Motorola decision of locking DroidX is against opensource philosophy. If a company doesn't provide a SPL (second program loader); there is nothing much a developer community can do.

You sir,win the thread.

[Madspyman]

Well lets see hear Droid X has, an HDMI out, 8mp camera/720p HD video camera, HD video playback, 1ghz processor, a Linux OS, wifi, bluetooth, email, a web browser, app store, etc, etc, etc...

Anyone else remember when cell phones could only make static ridden phone calls, and looked like bricks with antennas?

So what if you can't root it, it's way more advanced than it needs to be already.

[Spr0k3t]

Not about to boycott a phone that can't be rooted. Most end users don't know or need a rooted phone. Just the fact that the phone will come with Android as the loaded OS, I'm all for it and will continue to recommend it over everything else (unless it's another android based phone).

As for me, I'll continue to boycott the business practices of MS and Apple.

[Dustin2128]

-ahem-
if I recall correctly, the efuse thing turned out to be an overrated hoax, but many of you are missing the point. Just because the average user doesn't want to root his or her phone doesn't mean that Motorola should disallow we who like customization from doing so. The average user will never change his computer operating system; does that mean that our computer's hardware should stop us from installing linux? I think not.

[schauerlich]

All of this talk about rooting (http://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/root#Usage_notes) phones has me a bit worried...

[aysiu]

It doesn't brick your phone:
Motorola responds to Droid X bootloader controversy, says eFuse isn't there to break the phone (http://www.engadget.com/2010/07/16/motorola-responds-to-droid-x-bootloader-controversy-says-efuse/)

I think the solution is really simple. If the ability to root your phone is important to you, buy a phone that allows you to do so. The vast majority of users care nothing about rooting, especially since Google doesn't randomly reject apps from the Android Market or disallow you from installing non-market apps.

[exoren22]

It doesn't brick your phone:
Motorola responds to Droid X bootloader controversy, says eFuse isn't there to break the phone (http://www.engadget.com/2010/07/16/motorola-responds-to-droid-x-bootloader-controversy-says-efuse/)

I think the solution is really simple. If the ability to root your phone is important to you, buy a phone that allows you to do so. The vast majority of users care nothing about rooting, especially since Google doesn't randomly reject apps from the Android Market or disallow you from installing non-market apps.

Yeah, I love my Droid X even with the locking. However, this is the same type of lock the milestone has, and it's been rooted. I think with the full force of the US Android Hacking community the X will be wide open by the end of the summer.

And if not, I'll sell it on eBay and pick up the Fascinate (Galaxy S)!

[DeadSuperHero]

I got mine on Saturday, and I absolutely love it. My only gripe with it is just that there aren't as many apps for the Android platform quite yet. Call me juvenile, but I want to see:

-Epic Win
-iPoo
-Cracked.com Reader
-NetFlix
-Hulu
-UbuntuOne
-OpenArena, or some kind of Quake III clone

As apps available in the Android market. Would really complete my phone, in my opinion.

[tubezninja]

I won't have Flash or Android 2.2 until Motorola is finally merciful enough to give it to me.


...Flash?

It never ceases to amaze me, how rabidly open-sourced proponents will fight to open up their phones.... for the purpose of installing a yet another poorly-implemented closed platform on it. :P

[Shining Arcanine]

http://www.mydroidworld.com/forums/droid-x-discussion/3330-how-droid-x-locked-down-let-me-tell-you-what-i-know.html

Motorola wants to take away our freedom,boycott them don't buy the droid.Droid is what kept motorola in business,Droid X will put an X to it.I'd rather buy an iPhone rather than Droid X because it will at least be customizable after jailbreak.



Boycott Droid X

You have no warranty with the iPhone if you jailbreak it.

[ssj6akshat]

You have no warranty with the iPhone if you jailbreak it.

No warranty after jailbreak is better than unusable after modification.

[Yes]

No warranty after jailbreak is better than unusable after modification.

Perhaps, but that's not the case now is it?

[AllRadioisDead]

All I can say is that they'd better not do this to the droid 2.

[sports fan Matt]

Having connections at Motorola, and was asked if I wanted the old droid model, I said yes. I honestly want my phone to call/text/mobile web.

It won't really affect me if this scenerio occurs but I can see how other consumers would want to boycott this. I wouldn't in a million years try to "jailbreak" a phone. The costs are far greater to me if it is broken then having something that works for business.

[Johnsie]

I support any phone that has a decent implementation of Android.

[Dragonbite]

I just want to get a Droid. Any Droid.