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Dustin2128
July 8th, 2010, 02:52 AM
After being told many times 'it's not possible with anything other than kde' or 'all or none' I finally figured out how to remove window borders from a transparent, scrollbar-less aterm, set it to be embedded in the desktop, and all within the confines of GNOME (pretty much) achieving what I've been attempting to do for 2 months! The funny part was that it was laughably easy, taking only about 2 minutes and involving only two lines of config file changes. First I went to compiz fusion icon and set window manager to kwin. That gives the windows and effects the same behavior as kde but does not force me to use the kde panel or widget system, or in short, any of the things that cause me to dislike it. After that, I changed a few things in the kde compositing manager to give me the same desktop effects I had before (and then some), swap the window decorations to one of my favorite third party themes, and presto! perfect desktop! If anyone's wondering, at the time I took those screenshots I was running a build script from google code's quake2 html5 project (http://code.google.com/p/quake2-gwt-port/wiki/BuildingAndRunning).

dragos240
July 8th, 2010, 02:55 AM
Cool! You got a terminal on your desktop? Tut?

sailthesea
July 8th, 2010, 03:02 AM
Is very nice I wonder if OpenSuse would support those effects?

Lightstar
July 8th, 2010, 03:05 AM
Feels way too busy for me! And there's barely anything running! I guess I like my desktop clean and mostly empty :)

But I'm glad you were able to customize it to your need :D Good job!

Dustin2128
July 8th, 2010, 03:10 AM
Cool! You got a terminal on your desktop? Tut?
got most the info in the above post, but here's how to do it the with the method I did (probably more efficient methods, but this works for me)
first of all I got aterm, it's in the repos so that was the easy bit.
then



$ echo -n 'Aterm*scrollBar: false' >> ~/.Xresources
$ xrdb -merge ~/.Xresources





to remove the scrollbar. After that start with aterm --transparent for pseudo-transparency which is perfectly good for an embedded desktop terminal.
I used a bit of kde integration to accomplish the next bit, so if you don't already have it, get kubuntu-desktop and compiz fusion icon.
After you've got both installed, right click on compiz fusion icon>select window manager>kwin. That should reload it with the kde window manager with which you can still use most or all of your compositing effects, you just have to enable and configure them by right clicking on a window and hitting configure window behavior. After that, you just change the layer of the terminal to 'keep below others', get it to the size you want, then right click>advanced>no border. You have to have disabled shadows on that particular window or, obviously, you see the shadowed outline. That's pretty much what I did. Ungainly? Perhaps. Satisfying? Indeed.

cj.surrusco
July 8th, 2010, 03:31 AM
First I went to compiz fusion icon and set window manager to kwin.

Where is this option? Can't seem to find it.
Edit: Nevermind, Your new post explains it.

steveneddy
July 8th, 2010, 03:37 AM
Too busy for my tastes - and a transparent browser seems like a pain to read.

Dustin2128
July 8th, 2010, 03:37 AM
Too busy for my tastes - and a transparent browser seems like a pain to read.
Only transparent when I'm moving it, just felt like showing off some compositing features and window decoration options.

chessnerd
July 8th, 2010, 06:55 AM
Which one is the way you want it?

Those screen shots were taken 30 minutes apart. In that time, you moved the indicator applet over the the far left (before it was next to the notification icons). In which instance is it finally the way you like it looking? :D

(Also, the kernel was updated in that time span...)

Question: is that KDE, Gnome, a KDE/Gnome hybrid, or something else?

Dustin2128
July 8th, 2010, 07:03 AM
Which one is the way you want it?

Those screen shots were taken 30 minutes apart. In that time, you moved the indicator applet over the the far left (before it was next to the notification icons). In which instance is it finally the way you like it looking? :D

(Also, the kernel was updated in that time span...)

Question: is that KDE, Gnome, a KDE/Gnome hybrid, or something else?
It's a gnome/kde hybrid. I took the one screenshot, did some major updates then decided to take another screenshot showing transparent windows.
EDIT: I fixed it with a new screenshot.

chessnerd
July 8th, 2010, 07:32 AM
It's a gnome/kde hybrid. I took the one screenshot, did some major updates then decided to take another screenshot showing transparent windows.
EDIT: I fixed it with a new screenshot.

I figured that that was what happened.

A Gnome/KDE hybrid... Interesting.

There should be a distro that uses a scheme like that, but I don't think there is. Maybe you should make one from your setup. You could call it "Dust, an OS" (like Dustin OS, only less conceited). You could say that it's based on K/Ubuntu. Possible slogans: "All this OS is, is itself in the wind..." or "You'd be surprised how clean Dust can look!"

Dustin2128
July 8th, 2010, 07:38 AM
I figured that that was what happened.

A Gnome/KDE hybrid... Interesting.

There should be a distro that uses a scheme like that, but I don't think there is. Maybe you should make one from your setup. You could call it "Dust, an OS" (like Dustin OS, only less conceited). You could say that it's based on K/Ubuntu. Possible slogans: "All this OS is, is itself in the wind..." or "You'd be surprised how clean Dust can look!"
Interesting idea... I'd have to decide on the level of integration, but it wouldn't be too hard... I'll have to get back to you on that...
EDIT:
My default theme! (if swapped to black font of course). Motto: The best of both worlds (hardly original, but what the hell?)

Khakilang
July 8th, 2010, 09:02 AM
My desktop is totally empty. Never use any gadget or widget. When I want an application I just go ti Application and select what I want. Maybe I start decorating something and see how it goes.

aeiah
July 8th, 2010, 11:04 AM
i use stjerm bound to F12 for a small pop-up terminal, but it can easily be set to always on, up at the top, transparent and underneath all windows with compiz.

nothingspecial
July 8th, 2010, 12:50 PM
Huh, window borders, backgrounds, panels and docks are for sissys

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cj.surrusco
July 8th, 2010, 09:40 PM
Huh, window borders, backgrounds, panels and docks are for sissys


Hah, I really like using panels. It's easier to work when you can monitor everything without typing commands.

(I have two monitors set up vertically with dualview.)

_Mark_
July 8th, 2010, 10:37 PM
I followed this and works just fine with the normal gnome terminal and without having to use KDE

Linky (http://www.webupd8.org/2009/05/ubuntu-embed-terminal-into-you-desktop.html)

samalex
July 8th, 2010, 10:58 PM
To the OP, awesome you got your desktop perfectly customized to your liking... that's the beauty of Linux is that you can make it fit your needs :) I do have to say it's more busy than I prefer, instead I like a very clean desktop, but that's probably because of my ADHD.

Here's a link to a blog post (http://samalex.blogspot.com/2010/07/moved-to-64-bit-ubuntu-1004-and-loving.html) on my site with a screenshot of my desktop, which is fairly bare bone.

Sam

cj.surrusco
July 9th, 2010, 03:11 PM
I followed this and works just fine with the normal gnome terminal and without having to use KDE

Linky (http://www.webupd8.org/2009/05/ubuntu-embed-terminal-into-you-desktop.html)

Great link! Thanks a lot!

Tristam Green
July 9th, 2010, 03:13 PM
But can it play Crysis?