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KdotJ
July 3rd, 2010, 06:01 PM
Okay so, I have a netbook with Ubuntu 10.04 installed on it, then I installed the netbook-launcher via synaptic. After a while, I then installed xfce4 from synaptic (not xubuntu-desktop).

So my question is, What's the difference, if any, between installing xubuntu, and installing ubuntu then installing xfce?
I know that the themes, splash, gdm theme, and default apps are different. But is that it? Is my system still effectively Ubuntu?

SmokeyThePanda
July 3rd, 2010, 06:10 PM
Well, in my opinion, even if you were to install Xubuntu, your computer is still Ubuntu. You just have the Xfce stuff instead of Gnome and the Xubuntu defaults instead of Ubuntu defaults. As I just installed a base Ubuntu system, then installed the Xfce defaults, without installing Xubuntu, there is quite a big difference. There are alot less files that are required for running a comfortable Xfce environment than with Xubuntu. Also, if you were to install Xubuntu and wanted to later remove Xfce, it would be highly difficult. Everything in the Xubuntu desktop is linked together by a meta package. So, if you wanted to remove Xfce, it would want to take out several other packages.

In short, the difference is pretty massive. For convenience purposes, it's best to install the xfce window manager without installing Xubuntu-Desktop. I'm not sure that answered your question, but I tried. :p

KdotJ
July 3rd, 2010, 06:15 PM
Thanks for your reply, and yeah you answered it to an extent. I agree with you about the 'mess' of installing it. I found that out when I once installed kubuntu-desktop in ubuntu and ended up with a mash up of KDE apps and gnome apps and some funky configs.

I think I'll just leave it as it is, Ubuntu with Xfce installed on top. And to be fair, I kind of ended up making the Xfce look like gnome anyways...

SmokeyThePanda
July 3rd, 2010, 06:54 PM
Yeah. In all honesty, I prefer the gnome desktop over xfce. However, gnome is much more resource heavy, especially on my old computer with the small amount of RAM I have. >.<

However, if you can get the hang of xfce, it's worth it. I currently have a linux mint theme on mine that I find quite beautiful. Not entirely sure how, but it defaulted onto my firefox as well and now firefox also looks great. xD

nothingspecial
July 3rd, 2010, 07:13 PM
$ sudo apt-get install xfce4
Reading package lists... Done
Building dependency tree
Reading state information... Done
The following extra packages will be installed:
aumix aumix-common desktop-base exo-utils fortune-mod fortunes-min
gtk2-engines-xfce libexo-0.3-0 libexo-common librecode0 libthunar-vfs-1-2
libxfce4menu-0.1-0 libxfce4util-bin libxfce4util-common libxfce4util4
libxfcegui4-4 libxfconf-0-2 orage oss-compat tango-icon-theme thunar
thunar-data thunar-volman xfce-keyboard-shortcuts xfce4-appfinder
xfce4-mixer xfce4-panel xfce4-session xfce4-settings xfce4-utils xfconf
xfdesktop4 xfdesktop4-data xfwm4 xfwm4-themes

$ sudo apt-get install xubuntu-desktop
[sudo] password for rob:
Reading package lists... Done
Building dependency tree
Reading state information... Done
The following extra packages will be installed:
a2ps app-install-data-commercial aumix aumix-common catfish exaile exo-utils
fortune-mod fortunes-min gigolo gimp gimp-data gnumeric gnumeric-common
gnumeric-doc gtk2-engines-xfce libbabl-0.0-0 libexo-0.3-0 libexo-common
libgegl-0.0-0 libgimp2.0 libotr2 librecode0 libscim8c2a libsdl1.2debian-alsa
libthunar-vfs-1-2 libxcb-keysyms1 libxfce4menu-0.1-0 libxfce4util-bin
libxfce4util-common libxfce4util4 libxfcegui4-4 libxfconf-0-2 mousepad
murrine-themes orage oss-compat pidgin pidgin-data pidgin-libnotify
pidgin-otr psutils python-cddb python-mmkeys python-mutagen python-sexy
ristretto scim scim-bridge-agent scim-bridge-client-gtk scim-gtk2-immodule
scim-modules-socket tango-icon-theme tango-icon-theme-common tcl thunar
thunar-archive-plugin thunar-data thunar-media-tags-plugin
thunar-thumbnailers thunar-volman thunderbird vim-runtime wdiff xchat
xchat-common xfce-keyboard-shortcuts xfce4-appfinder xfce4-clipman
xfce4-clipman-plugin xfce4-cpugraph-plugin xfce4-dict xfce4-fsguard-plugin
xfce4-mailwatch-plugin xfce4-mixer xfce4-mount-plugin xfce4-netload-plugin
xfce4-notes xfce4-notes-plugin xfce4-panel xfce4-places-plugin
xfce4-power-manager xfce4-power-manager-data xfce4-quicklauncher-plugin
xfce4-screenshooter xfce4-session xfce4-settings xfce4-smartbookmark-plugin
xfce4-systemload-plugin xfce4-terminal xfce4-utils xfce4-verve-plugin
xfce4-volumed xfce4-weather-plugin xfce4-xkb-plugin xfconf xfdesktop4
xfdesktop4-data xfprint4 xfswitch-plugin xfwm4 xfwm4-themes xscreensaver
xubuntu-artwork xubuntu-default-settings xubuntu-docs xubuntu-gdm-theme
xubuntu-icon-theme xubuntu-plymouth-theme xubuntu-wallpapers
The difference is in red.

And I already have abiword, feh ........ etc

KdotJ
July 3rd, 2010, 07:13 PM
I run Ubuntu on my laptop, but the issues I have with my netbook is battery life which is why I decided to have look at using Xfce to save resources. I just wish I would find a way to edit the items in the menu's. Some of them are soo long, and in ubuntu I could choose to hide the ones I didn't want.

SmokeyThePanda
July 3rd, 2010, 07:21 PM
Give this a try mate.

http://wiki.xfce.org/tips#how_to_add_or_remove_applications_in_the_syst em_menu

KdotJ
July 3rd, 2010, 08:49 PM
Give this a try mate.

http://wiki.xfce.org/tips#how_to_add_or_remove_applications_in_the_syst em_menu

Thanks for the link mate, I'll give it a try