newegg combo deal

[Dayofswords]

well, I found this combo deal at newegg and it's really close to the same thing I was looking at since my computer is really old('03) and linux crashes on it, except it went piece by piece and this is a combo with a better price and better speed of RAM and better other things.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboBundleDetails.aspx?ItemList=Combo.391749
I have a question if anyone out there knows



on the mobo it says:
Memory Standard
DDR3 1800(O.C.)/1600(O.C.)/1333/1066/800 ECC,Non-ECC,Un-buffered Memory

the RAM is DDR3 1600(link (http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820231277))

but on the AMD processor it says:
Integrated Memory Controller Speed
Dual Channel PC3-10667U (DDR3-1333) for 2 modules, Dual Channel PC3-8500U (DDR3-1066), Dual Channel PC2-8500U (DDR2-1066)

it doesn't say 1600... so doesn't that mean they wont work together...i'm guessing since it's a combo it would all work without overclocking(which I'm baffled on how to do and kinda the concept) or anything

also if anyone knows how well this would do on linux, that bet amazing :) Any comment would be helpful.


(note: never bought a computer through pieces, just full thing. but those cost a lot more and have cheap parts it seems. )

I plan to use the computer (if i get it) on gaming, which i'm getting an OK graphics card too("HIS H485FM512H Radeon HD 4850 512MB 256-bit GDDR3 PCI Express 2.0 x16 HDCP Ready CrossFireX Support Video Card" ), and folding@home and schoolwork since i have to a lot of virtualizing next year as they are no longer lending drives for us to use. I do not plan on overclocking.

[spezticle]

i'm thinking it should work, the ram will be at 1066 because of processor limitations unless you overclock it to 1600 or higher. i'm about 70% confident that's how it works.

[kpholmes]

the ram will work fine, its just going to be bottlenecked by the mobo.

[Dayofswords]

so the mobo is just going to make it run the RAM as if it was a 1066?

since i had a 1066 RAM before when i was manually getting pieces , i'm fine with that, still a better deal and it leaves room for upgrading in the future

[spezticle]

the ram will work fine, its just going to be bottlenecked by the mobo.

not asking because i think you're wrong, but curious. why would the ram be bottlenecked by the motherboard? the motherboard is rated higher speeds than the processor... so... wouldn't it be the processor?


so the mobo is just going to make it run the RAM as if it was a 1066?

since i had a 1066 RAM before, i'm fine with that, still a better deal

yeah, i'm pretty sure. i had a motherboard and ram that could do 1066 but the processor could only do 800, so it ran as 800.

[kpholmes]

i thought those numbers were the speeds the motherboard can access the memory sticks, it might be wrong though, idk

[spezticle]

yeah, i'm not an expert like that either. i know my way around hardware and the numbers pretty well, but i'm not 100% certain. you can probably overclock the cpu to run at 1600 but i'd make damn sure you've got good cooling equipment and you keep track of your electrical voltage and whatnot.

[spezticle]

oh, and if i remember correctly, being as you'll have 4gb ram, i'd run x64 because a 32 bit OS can't use more than 3 1/4.

i can't remember if that was a windows only problem, or a 32 bit operating system limitation...

okay i googled it.
this site says it's the 32bit O.S. Limitation
http://www.fnode.com/2007/12/4gb-ram-on-32-bit-operating-system/

just something to consider... :)

[lemuriaX]

Recently was researching and found this link that summed up the 32 bit memory limit well I thought:

http://www.zdnet.com/blog/hardware/clearing-up-the-3264-bit-memory-limit-confusion/3124

[spezticle]

Recently was researching and found this link that summed up the 32 bit memory limit well I thought:

http://www.zdnet.com/blog/hardware/clearing-up-the-3264-bit-memory-limit-confusion/3124

thanks for posting that. i never knew the math behind it.

[Dayofswords]

oh, and if i remember correctly, being as you'll have 4gb ram, i'd run x64 because a 32 bit OS can't use more than 3 1/4.


yeah, i was going 64-bit, perhaps 32-bit for windows xp if i try it out on it, since i only have the 32-bit version

hey i also read this on the mobo, its confusing me lol

2 x PCIe 2.0 x16 (blue @ x16 mode,gray @ x4 mode)
so thats saying... theres a x16.. but it only goes to x4, am i correct?

if so, not an issue, i'll have only one graphics card

[spezticle]

yeah, i was going 64-bit, perhaps 32-bit for windows xp if i try it out on it, since i only have the 32-bit version

hey i also read this on the mobo, its confusing me lol

so thats saying... theres a x16.. but it only goes to x4, am i correct?

if so, not an issue, i'll have only one graphics card

link me the mobo

[Dayofswords]

link me the mobo
sorry =P
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813131398

[spezticle]

i googled "2 x PCIe 2.0 x16 (blue @ x16 mode,gray @ x4 mode)"
and found a motherboard that has that same reporting.
one of the pcie slots is blue, the other is gray.
i'm thinking that the blue pcie does 16x and the gray one does 4x?

[spezticle]

sorry =P
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813131398

lol no need to apologize :-P
yeah, i'm pretty sure it means the blue slot does 16x and the gray 4x.
so even if you have 2 cards, one will run at 16 the other at 4... weird. lol

[spezticle]

I got this from a google review search:


Pros.
Good onboard graphics. HD4200 w/128mb DDR3-1333 sideport memory.
Good overclocking and stability.
Good heatsinks all around.
2oz copper PCB.
Support is decent along with bios updates.
2 pcie slots.

Cons.
1 pcie slots runs x4 when in crossfire mode.
4-pin power. Again not a problem.
5 Sata ports.
Brown PCB. Again personal preference.
Users report bios updates needed to run C3 chips.

[Dayofswords]

i have no problem with those cons so this is looking like a nice new computer for me