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neotifa
May 12th, 2010, 11:05 PM
Currently, i installed Google Chrome, and im looking my active connections with Firestarter. It has 6-7 connections, and all are coming from google-chrome.
I also read that Google is stealing inforations every time you made a search with chrome.

What do you think, is this true?

NCLI
May 12th, 2010, 11:14 PM
*sigh*

All it does is attach an ID number to your browser, then use this number and your browsing history to send you targeted ads. This data isn't stored for long, and never seen by human eyes.

Warpnow
May 12th, 2010, 11:19 PM
In addition, these things can be disabled.

http://www.google.com/chrome/intl/en/privacy.html

EarthMind
May 12th, 2010, 11:33 PM
Correction: your data is stored for at least 6 months, which is in my opinion VERY LONG.

Paqman
May 12th, 2010, 11:41 PM
It has 6-7 connections, and all are coming from google-chrome.


I would imagine that's because each tab in Chrome runs as a separate process.

RiceMonster
May 12th, 2010, 11:43 PM
Yes, it's sending all your personal data to google, who will then use that information to hunt you down and kill you.

Warpnow
May 12th, 2010, 11:55 PM
Correction: your data is stored for at least 6 months, which is in my opinion VERY LONG.

Only if you opt-in to their usage statistics program on install.

OMG! They're STEALING INFORMATION FROM ME THAT I AGREED TO LET THEM HAVE! THE WORLD IS ENDING!!! AHHHHH!!!!

mmix
May 12th, 2010, 11:58 PM
Don't use chrome, actually it is harmful to human body. :)

Just use default firefox always.

nuwave
May 13th, 2010, 12:00 AM
Don't use chrome, actually it is harmful to human body. :)

Just use default firefox always.

Firefox?!? Icky....lol j/k

Chrysantine
May 13th, 2010, 12:03 AM
Just use default firefox always.
Firefox nowadays is just a wreck on Linux, like it has really always been. Slow, unstable, consumes extraordinary amount of resources and gets patched all the time for horrible, horrible bugs.

Chromium wins.

cguy
May 13th, 2010, 12:18 AM
The mods are editing posts instead of creating their own.
What next? :)

Raffles10
May 13th, 2010, 12:21 AM
Don't use google chrome !

Use chromium, it's open source.


Chromium is an open-source browser project that aims to build a safer, faster, and more stable way for all Internet users to experience the web.

Chromium serves as a base for Google Chrome, which is Chromium rebranded (name and logo) with very few additions such as usage tracking and an auto-updater system.


apt-get install chromium-browser

(It's in universe)

cariboo
May 13th, 2010, 12:21 AM
If Firefox runs slow, is unstable and consumes extraordinary amounts of ram, you have something wrong with your Firefox installation, try creating a new profile. I have far more problems with Chrome, than Firefox.

I had something weird going on with Chrome, Instead of quoting, some how it edited. Sorry about that.

ubunterooster
May 13th, 2010, 01:14 AM
Don't use google chrome !

Use chromium, it's open source.




apt-get install chromium-browser

(It's in universe)
!!!! yes.

mkvnmtr
May 13th, 2010, 01:37 AM
If you really want to get a tin foil hat take a look at your chrome cache. Then see if you can set the browser up to not use a cache like you can with Firefox or just about any other browser.

pwnst*r
May 13th, 2010, 01:39 AM
Currently, i installed Google Chrome, and im looking my active connections with Firestarter. It has 6-7 connections, and all are coming from google-chrome.
I also read that Google is stealing inforations every time you made a search with chrome.

What do you think, is this true?

tinfoil alert!

ubunterooster
May 13th, 2010, 01:46 AM
I also read that Google is stealing information every time you made a search with chrome
I read that Google is stealing data every time you use the Google search engine :lol: lol

tjeremiah
May 13th, 2010, 02:41 AM
Firefox nowadays is just a wreck on Linux, like it has really always been. Slow, unstable, consumes extraordinary amount of resources and gets patched all the time for horrible, horrible bugs.

Chromium wins.

Really? I notice none of this ^ when im using FF in Linux. I stay with FF because not only is it fast but the add-ons are better than they are on Chrome. Optimize Google, Linkification, etc, etc. And FF also has the best ad-blocker out there. For some reason when I did use Chrome, i couldnt find a decent ad-blocker that actually blocks ads... I also couldnt find a add-on that didnt want my browsing habits.

pwnst*r
May 13th, 2010, 02:53 AM
Really? I notice none of this ^ when im using FF in Linux. I stay with FF because not only is it fast but the add-ons are better than they are on Chrome. Optimize Google, Linkification, etc, etc. And FF also has the best ad-blocker out there. For some reason when I did use Chrome, i couldnt find a decent ad-blocker that actually blocks ads... I also couldnt find a add-on that didnt want my browsing habits.

What adblocker do you use in FF?

lisati
May 13th, 2010, 03:02 AM
Every time you browse a web site, you are providing the web host with information, regardless of which browser you are using. This (http://lisati.myftp.org/whoami) is a simple page I quickly whipped together a few months back to illustrate this. There are other sites out there that provide more details of what can be learned, but a suitable link eludes me for the moment.


edit: If you visit the above link & get "403 Forbidden", check the links in my sig. (see below)

ubunterooster
May 13th, 2010, 03:03 AM
Every time you browse a web site, you are providing the web host with information, regardless of which browser you are using. This (http://lisati.myftp.org/whoami) is a simple page I quickly whipped together a few months back to illustrate this. There are other sites out there that provide more details of what can be learned, but a suitable link eludes me for the moment.
That's creepy!

pwnst*r
May 13th, 2010, 03:09 AM
It's also been done for ages.

tjeremiah
May 13th, 2010, 03:17 AM
What adblocker do you use in FF?

AdBlock Plus along with its list of filers I can subscribe to.

Mr. Picklesworth
May 13th, 2010, 03:45 AM
That's creepy!

It's nothing!
https://panopticlick.eff.org/
Now that is creepy. It's also the nature of the web; it's why it works so well.
(Well, to a point. Future standards may deprecate a few features being used there).


With regards to a lot of Chrome processes being responsible for a lot of network traffic, this can be caused by a complex web app with Javascript that regularly queries a server. Extensions also get their own processes, so some of them may be doing the same.

With regards to the "Chrome extensions aren't good enough" argument, I've found precisely the opposite; I'm in love with a certain Chromium extension (https://chrome.google.com/extensions/detail/okanipcmceoeemlbjnmnbdibhgpbllgc?hl=en-gb) and can't use Firefox until something similar comes to be for it.
(The others I love have Firefox equivalents, though Chrome has consistent icon placement and "new messages" badges to its credit as well).

So, let's not start that debate in this fellow's thread; everyone is equally entrenched in his own side, and equally wrong about the other ;)

pwnst*r
May 13th, 2010, 04:18 AM
AdBlock Plus along with its list of filers I can subscribe to.

Chrome as adblock and adthwart. Both work equally as well.

witeshark17
May 13th, 2010, 04:47 AM
If Firefox runs slow, is unstable and consumes extraordinary amounts of ram, you have something wrong with your Firefox installation, try creating a new profile. I have far more problems with Chrome, than Firefox. Agreed, I have never had issues with Firefox. :popcorn:

ubunterooster
May 13th, 2010, 04:47 AM
FF's "noscript" add-on = woot

Timmer1240
May 13th, 2010, 04:53 AM
I use chrome and you just dont check a box in the begining if you dont want to share your info!Its Fast as hell works great not stealing my info and not too worried about it!

Rasa1111
May 13th, 2010, 04:59 AM
Using chrome


Your browser fingerprint appears to be unique among the 830,664 tested so far.

Currently, we estimate that your browser has a fingerprint that conveys at least 19.66 bits of identifying information.
https://panopticlick.eff.org/

Using firefox~

Your browser fingerprint appears to be unique among the 830,666 tested so far.

Currently, we estimate that your browser has a fingerprint that conveys at least 19.66 bits of identifying information.

lol, does it say the same for everything or what?
thanks Mr. Picklesworth. :)

t0p
May 13th, 2010, 05:48 AM
Every time you browse a web site, you are providing the web host with information, regardless of which browser you are using. This (http://lisati.myftp.org/whoami) is a simple page I quickly whipped together a few months back to illustrate this. There are other sites out there that provide more details of what can be learned, but a suitable link eludes me for the moment.

Lisati's site reports everything wrong about me, thanks to User Agent Switcher and a VPN. And my tinfoil hat fits fine burble burble.

EarthMind
May 13th, 2010, 01:07 PM
Only if you opt-in to their usage statistics program on install.

OMG! They're STEALING INFORMATION FROM ME THAT I AGREED TO LET THEM HAVE! THE WORLD IS ENDING!!! AHHHHH!!!!

That only counts for Chrome, and not their hundreds of other software and services.

Warpnow
May 13th, 2010, 01:52 PM
That only counts for Chrome, and not their hundreds of other software and services.

...which is exactly what we're talking about...?

Those other services and software will function the same on Firefox as Chrome.

98cwitr
May 13th, 2010, 02:04 PM
as long as they aren't getting my passwords (other than for their services) I don't care. Chrome > *

Warpnow
May 13th, 2010, 02:31 PM
I feel similarly. My online activity is not that embarrassing. Sure, they'll know what kind of porn I like...that's pretty much the most embarrassing thing most of us will ever do online, and everyone does it.

pwnst*r
May 13th, 2010, 02:33 PM
Privacy? Lock your bedroom door and read a book.

Warpnow
May 13th, 2010, 02:36 PM
Privacy? Lock your bedroom door and read a book.
Make sure you pick a family friendly book. The kid with the binoculars' mom will thank you.

RiceMonster
May 13th, 2010, 02:44 PM
Privacy? Lock your bedroom door and read a book.

Make sure you close the blinds too, because someone could see you through the window!

mmix
May 13th, 2010, 02:46 PM
yesh, both can collect the data.
but, only google keen to do it, extensively.

whereas, mozilla don't.

98cwitr
May 13th, 2010, 02:47 PM
Armadillo helmet > tinfoil hat

OrbJinzo
May 13th, 2010, 02:50 PM
I pose you all this. Who would you rather give "info" to?

Yahoo!?
Microsoft/Bing?
AOL?
Google?

If i had to choose id rather have Google get the info then the other company. Cause Google has done alot of good stuff for the open source world

ubunterooster
May 13th, 2010, 03:38 PM
I pose you all this. Who would you rather give "info" to?

Yahoo!?
Microsoft/Bing?
AOL?
Google?

If i had to choose id rather have Google get the info then the other company. Cause Google has done alot of good stuff for the open source world
I think that to much knowledge in one place is dangerous

Rasa1111
May 13th, 2010, 03:56 PM
I think that to much knowledge in one place is dangerous

especially if that knowledge resides within ones own head. lol ;)

they've captured all the fools,
now their lookin for the thinkers.
but thankfully.. the thinkers continue to think.. damn them! lol :KS

LeifAndersen
May 13th, 2010, 05:57 PM
Chrome as adblock and adthwart. Both work equally as well.

Erm..While I haven't tried adthwart on chrome, I have noticed that adblock isn't as good as adblock plus on firefox. The ads are loaded and than blocked. (Or at least, I have seen them appear, and then a moment later disappear on a website). Also, it doesn't block ads in videos. For example, adblock plus will block the ads in youtube videos, but on chrome, it doesn't. (Although in both cases, hulu still seams to get it's adds through, go figure).

lovinglinux
May 14th, 2010, 01:16 AM
I have far more problems with Chrome, than Firefox.

Me too.


Firefox nowadays is just a wreck on Linux, like it has really always been. Slow, unstable, consumes extraordinary amount of resources and gets patched all the time for horrible, horrible bugs.

Chromium wins.

I don't want to perpetuate the browser war, but take a look at this video (http://lovinglinuxblog.blogspot.com/2010/05/browser-speed-test.html) comparing browsers speeds. I did it today.

I like several things about Chrome and dislike several others. The main issue is that with Firefox I'm much more productive.

In regard to data mining, Google already owns me, so a little more won't make a difference :) Not saying that I don't care, I do. But they have so many good services for free, that I'm willing to sacrifice some privacy to use them.

For instance, I use these services on a daily basis:


Search Engine (haven't used any other for years)
Sites
Blogger
Picasa
Gmail
Analytics
Docs
Code
FeedBurner
YouTube


Some of these services could be replaced by third-party alternatives, but Google makes things easy to use and clean. Most importantly, I know they are here to stay, so no worries about having to migrate all my stuff if a startup company goes down.

ubunterooster
May 14th, 2010, 01:33 AM
Wow, does own test.... It is slower! Never checked before.