New installation of 10.4 will not start

[Jonners59]

I have installed 10.4 on a PC running Vista 64-bit with AMD64. It has 3 x internal hard drives, 1 x1Tb for back uo. 1 x 768Gb partitioned for files. 1 x 300G in two partitions of 150G each for each of the two OS: Vista and Ubuntu.

I used the wubi ti install

The install itself seemed to go well. However, on reboot, which then does the final install and set up, it refuses to boot. Generally I get a black screen, but I can get it to sometimes give me info by pressing ENTER after some time in black screen state. The message it gives is to the effect "Windows was not shut down properly. Log off, shut it down and try again", and "the drive is in Hybernation so enter the following in command line ' mount -t ntfs-3g -o remove_hiberfile /dev/sda1/ isodevice'"

Mainly there is nowhere to enter this, but I found a way of starting up the boot that does a line by line and when that stops I have tried entering the above command. I get a message "not found".

Can anyone help me.

[edalry1]

I have the same problem with two different computers. Both have been running version 9.10 64 bit with out issue. After failed upgrades I down loaded ISO files and tried clean install dual boot using wubi both with windows 7 64. The systems install flows fine in windows, after reboot ubuntu option appears and the continued install of 10.4 is completed. After what seems to be a clean install on last reboot is required ubuntu will not start black screen is all I receive. Never gets to the login screen.

Any help would be awesome.

[Jonners59]

One step forward and one back...
Fixed the install issue, by disconnecting the spare hard drives and completely re installing Vista and another copy of U 9.10... That eventually got it going. I found the 10.4 already installed. Doesn't sound much but I have installed and installed Ubuntu and Vista so many times over the past 4 days.

Now the next big issue that I found yesterday and has repapered after yet another reinstall. When I think all is fixed and working, I complete the setting up of 10.4 which includes an update. Then it all goes wrong again:

After a reboot, I find all the installs are listed in Grub - great - and I can select them all, however, Vista will not load, it just reverts back to the Grub.
:mad:
Also, would like to be able to change the boot order....

I also find that 10.4 does not always load up and I have to cold restart, often booting in a level before the most recent to get it to start, but I am not worried about this as I can make it work through the re boot - an issue I think is related to video config.

Any solutions, please?????

[cariboo]

I can't help with the Vista problem as I don't dual boot. but several people have had the same problem, I've seen the solution ins the first 4 or pages of the experience thread. As far as modifying the grub2 menu, have a look at this (https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub2) document, scroll down to customization.

[Jonners59]

I can't help with the Vista problem as I don't dual boot. but several people have had the same problem, I've seen the solution ins the first 4 or pages of the experience thread. As far as modifying the grub2 menu, have a look at this (https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub2) document, scroll down to customization.



Thanks for this... GRUB2 config found and very interesting. Have looked on my machine and I can see that if I get the boot matter working this will work...

Will now look for the "solutions" to booting. Would be nice if it was in a separate thread so was easy to find.

If this works I may write up experiences and solutions for others to find.


System info:

Disk /dev/sdb: 1000.2 GB, 1000204886016 bytes
255 heads, 63 sectors/track, 121601 cylinders
Units = cylinders of 16065 * 512 = 8225280 bytes
Sector size (logical/physical): 512 bytes / 512 bytes
I/O size (minimum/optimal): 512 bytes / 512 bytes
Disk identifier: 0x00057726

Device Boot Start End Blocks Id System
/dev/sdb1 1 1 8001 7 HPFS/NTFS
/dev/sdb2 2 121601 976752000 5 Extended
/dev/sdb5 2 6868 55151616 7 HPFS/NTFS
/dev/sdb6 6868 121601 921598976 7 HPFS/NTFS

Disk /dev/sda: 750.2 GB, 750156374016 bytes
255 heads, 63 sectors/track, 91201 cylinders
Units = cylinders of 16065 * 512 = 8225280 bytes
Sector size (logical/physical): 512 bytes / 512 bytes
I/O size (minimum/optimal): 512 bytes / 512 bytes
Disk identifier: 0xd8408a51

Device Boot Start End Blocks Id System
/dev/sda1 1 12871 103386276 7 HPFS/NTFS
/dev/sda2 12872 91201 629185725 f W95 Ext'd (LBA)
/dev/sda5 12872 25926 104864256 7 HPFS/NTFS
/dev/sda6 25927 38981 104864256 7 HPFS/NTFS
/dev/sda7 38982 52036 104864256 7 HPFS/NTFS
/dev/sda8 52037 65091 104864256 7 HPFS/NTFS
/dev/sda9 65092 78146 104864256 7 HPFS/NTFS
/dev/sda10 78147 91201 104864256 7 HPFS/NTFS

Disk /dev/sdc: 320.1 GB, 320072933376 bytes
255 heads, 63 sectors/track, 38913 cylinders
Units = cylinders of 16065 * 512 = 8225280 bytes
Sector size (logical/physical): 512 bytes / 512 bytes
I/O size (minimum/optimal): 512 bytes / 512 bytes
Disk identifier: 0xe218bae6

Device Boot Start End Blocks Id System
/dev/sdc1 * 1 19873 159628848+ 7 HPFS/NTFS
/dev/sdc2 * 19874 21627 14089005 82 Linux swap / Solaris
/dev/sdc3 21628 26756 41198692+ 5 Extended
/dev/sdc4 * 26757 38913 97651102+ 83 Linux
/dev/sdc5 * 25541 26756 9767488+ 83 Linux
/dev/sdc6 21628 25373 30089682 83 Linux
/dev/sdc7 25374 25540 1341396 82 Linux swap / Solaris

Partition table entries are not in disk order

[Jonners59]

Any Help, Please. This has been hanging around for a couple of days


Thanks for this... GRUB2 config found and very interesting. Have looked on my machine and I can see that if I get the boot matter working this will work...

Will now look for the "solutions" to booting. Would be nice if it was in a separate thread so was easy to find.

If this works I may write up experiences and solutions for others to find.


System info:

Disk /dev/sdb: 1000.2 GB, 1000204886016 bytes
255 heads, 63 sectors/track, 121601 cylinders
Units = cylinders of 16065 * 512 = 8225280 bytes
Sector size (logical/physical): 512 bytes / 512 bytes
I/O size (minimum/optimal): 512 bytes / 512 bytes
Disk identifier: 0x00057726

Device Boot Start End Blocks Id System
/dev/sdb1 1 1 8001 7 HPFS/NTFS
/dev/sdb2 2 121601 976752000 5 Extended
/dev/sdb5 2 6868 55151616 7 HPFS/NTFS
/dev/sdb6 6868 121601 921598976 7 HPFS/NTFS

Disk /dev/sda: 750.2 GB, 750156374016 bytes
255 heads, 63 sectors/track, 91201 cylinders
Units = cylinders of 16065 * 512 = 8225280 bytes
Sector size (logical/physical): 512 bytes / 512 bytes
I/O size (minimum/optimal): 512 bytes / 512 bytes
Disk identifier: 0xd8408a51

Device Boot Start End Blocks Id System
/dev/sda1 1 12871 103386276 7 HPFS/NTFS
/dev/sda2 12872 91201 629185725 f W95 Ext'd (LBA)
/dev/sda5 12872 25926 104864256 7 HPFS/NTFS
/dev/sda6 25927 38981 104864256 7 HPFS/NTFS
/dev/sda7 38982 52036 104864256 7 HPFS/NTFS
/dev/sda8 52037 65091 104864256 7 HPFS/NTFS
/dev/sda9 65092 78146 104864256 7 HPFS/NTFS
/dev/sda10 78147 91201 104864256 7 HPFS/NTFS

Disk /dev/sdc: 320.1 GB, 320072933376 bytes
255 heads, 63 sectors/track, 38913 cylinders
Units = cylinders of 16065 * 512 = 8225280 bytes
Sector size (logical/physical): 512 bytes / 512 bytes
I/O size (minimum/optimal): 512 bytes / 512 bytes
Disk identifier: 0xe218bae6

Device Boot Start End Blocks Id System
/dev/sdc1 * 1 19873 159628848+ 7 HPFS/NTFS
/dev/sdc2 * 19874 21627 14089005 82 Linux swap / Solaris
/dev/sdc3 21628 26756 41198692+ 5 Extended
/dev/sdc4 * 26757 38913 97651102+ 83 Linux
/dev/sdc5 * 25541 26756 9767488+ 83 Linux
/dev/sdc6 21628 25373 30089682 83 Linux
/dev/sdc7 25374 25540 1341396 82 Linux swap / Solaris

Partition table entries are not in disk order

[oldfred]

With multiple drives it would be good to see the entire configuration:

Boot Info Script courtesy of forum member meierfra
Page with instructions and download:
http://bootinfoscript.sourceforge.net/
Be sure to highlight and use code tags (# in edit panel) to make it easier to read when you post the results.txt.

[Jonners59]

With multiple drives it would be good to see the entire configuration:

Boot Info Script courtesy of forum member meierfra
Page with instructions and download:
http://bootinfoscript.sourceforge.net/
Be sure to highlight and use code tags (# in edit panel) to make it easier to read when you post the results.txt.

Is this what you are after.....?

Install of OS is on sdc. sda and sdb are storgae and backup ONLY. Odd date!


Boot Info Script 0.55 dated February 15th, 2010

============================= Boot Info Summary: ==============================

=> Lilo is installed in the MBR of /dev/sda
=> Lilo is installed in the MBR of /dev/sdb
=> Grub 2 is installed in the MBR of /dev/sdc and looks on the same drive in
partition #6 for /boot/grub.

sda1: __________________________________________________ _______________________

File system: ntfs
Boot sector type: Windows Vista/7
Boot sector info: No errors found in the Boot Parameter Block.
Operating System:
Boot files/dirs:

sda2: __________________________________________________ _______________________

File system: Extended Partition
Boot sector type: -
Boot sector info:

sda5: __________________________________________________ _______________________

File system: ntfs
Boot sector type: Windows Vista/7
Boot sector info: According to the info in the boot sector, sda5 starts
at sector 63.
Operating System:
Boot files/dirs:

sda6: __________________________________________________ _______________________

File system: ntfs
Boot sector type: Windows XP
Boot sector info: According to the info in the boot sector, sda6 starts
at sector 63.
Operating System:
Boot files/dirs:

sda7: __________________________________________________ _______________________

File system: ntfs
Boot sector type: Windows XP
Boot sector info: According to the info in the boot sector, sda7 starts
at sector 63.
Operating System:
Boot files/dirs:

sda8: __________________________________________________ _______________________

File system: ntfs
Boot sector type: Windows XP
Boot sector info: According to the info in the boot sector, sda8 starts
at sector 63.
Operating System:
Boot files/dirs:

sda9: __________________________________________________ _______________________

File system: ntfs
Boot sector type: Windows XP
Boot sector info: According to the info in the boot sector, sda9 starts
at sector 63.
Operating System:
Boot files/dirs:

sda10: __________________________________________________ _______________________

File system: ntfs
Boot sector type: Windows Vista/7
Boot sector info: According to the info in the boot sector, sda10 starts
at sector 63.
Operating System:
Boot files/dirs:

sdb1: __________________________________________________ _______________________

File system: ntfs
Boot sector type: Windows XP
Boot sector info: No errors found in the Boot Parameter Block.
Operating System:
Boot files/dirs:

sdb2: __________________________________________________ _______________________

File system: Extended Partition
Boot sector type: -
Boot sector info:

sdb5: __________________________________________________ _______________________

File system: ntfs
Boot sector type: Windows Vista/7
Boot sector info: According to the info in the boot sector, sdb5 starts
at sector 319. But according to the info from fdisk,
sdb5 starts at sector 16384.
Operating System:
Boot files/dirs:

sdb6: __________________________________________________ _______________________

File system: ntfs
Boot sector type: Windows Vista/7
Boot sector info: According to the info in the boot sector, sdb6 starts
at sector 2048.
Operating System:
Boot files/dirs:

sdc1: __________________________________________________ _______________________

File system: ntfs
Boot sector type: Windows Vista/7
Boot sector info: No errors found in the Boot Parameter Block.
Operating System: Windows Vista
Boot files/dirs: /etc/lilo.conf /bootmgr /Boot/BCD
/Windows/System32/winload.exe /wubildr.mbr /wubildr

sdc2: __________________________________________________ _______________________

File system: swap
Boot sector type: -
Boot sector info:

sdc3: __________________________________________________ _______________________

File system: Extended Partition
Boot sector type: -
Boot sector info:

sdc5: __________________________________________________ _______________________

File system: ext3
Boot sector type: -
Boot sector info:
Operating System: Ubuntu 9.10
Boot files/dirs: /boot/grub/grub.cfg /etc/fstab /boot/grub/core.img

sdc6: __________________________________________________ _______________________

File system: ext4
Boot sector type: -
Boot sector info:
Operating System: Ubuntu 9.10
Boot files/dirs: /boot/grub/grub.cfg /etc/fstab /boot/grub/core.img

sdc4: __________________________________________________ _______________________

File system: ntfs
Boot sector type: Windows Vista/7
Boot sector info: No errors found in the Boot Parameter Block.
Operating System:
Boot files/dirs: /ubuntu/winboot/wubildr.mbr /ubuntu/winboot/wubildr
/ubuntu/disks/root.disk /ubuntu/disks/swap.disk

sdc4/Wubi: __________________________________________________ _______________________

File system: ext4
Boot sector type: -
Boot sector info:
Mounting failed:
mount: wrong fs type, bad option, bad superblock on /dev/loop0,
missing codepage or helper program, or other error
In some cases useful info is found in syslog - try
dmesg | tail or so


=========================== Drive/Partition Info: =============================

Drive: sda ___________________ __________________________________________________ ___

Disk /dev/sda: 750.2 GB, 750156374016 bytes
255 heads, 63 sectors/track, 91201 cylinders, total 1465149168 sectors
Units = sectors of 1 * 512 = 512 bytes
Disk identifier: 0xd8408a51

Partition Boot Start End Size Id System

/dev/sda1 63 206,772,614 206,772,552 7 HPFS/NTFS
/dev/sda2 206,772,615 1,465,144,064 1,258,371,450 f W95 Ext d (LBA)
/dev/sda5 206,772,678 416,501,189 209,728,512 7 HPFS/NTFS
/dev/sda6 416,501,253 626,229,764 209,728,512 7 HPFS/NTFS
/dev/sda7 626,229,828 835,958,339 209,728,512 7 HPFS/NTFS
/dev/sda8 835,958,403 1,045,686,914 209,728,512 7 HPFS/NTFS
/dev/sda9 1,045,686,978 1,255,415,489 209,728,512 7 HPFS/NTFS
/dev/sda10 1,255,415,553 1,465,144,064 209,728,512 7 HPFS/NTFS


Drive: sdb ___________________ __________________________________________________ ___

Disk /dev/sdb: 1000.2 GB, 1000204886016 bytes
255 heads, 63 sectors/track, 121601 cylinders, total 1953525168 sectors
Units = sectors of 1 * 512 = 512 bytes
Disk identifier: 0x00057726

Partition Boot Start End Size Id System

/dev/sdb1 63 16,064 16,002 7 HPFS/NTFS
/dev/sdb2 16,065 1,953,520,064 1,953,504,000 5 Extended
/dev/sdb5 16,384 110,319,615 110,303,232 7 HPFS/NTFS
/dev/sdb6 110,321,664 1,953,519,615 1,843,197,952 7 HPFS/NTFS


Drive: sdc ___________________ __________________________________________________ ___

Disk /dev/sdc: 320.1 GB, 320072933376 bytes
255 heads, 63 sectors/track, 38913 cylinders, total 625142448 sectors
Units = sectors of 1 * 512 = 512 bytes
Disk identifier: 0xe218bae6

Partition Boot Start End Size Id System

/dev/sdc1 * 2,048 319,259,744 319,257,697 7 HPFS/NTFS
/dev/sdc2 319,259,745 347,437,754 28,178,010 82 Linux swap / Solaris
/dev/sdc3 347,437,755 429,835,139 82,397,385 5 Extended
/dev/sdc5 347,437,881 407,617,244 60,179,364 83 Linux
/dev/sdc6 407,617,308 429,835,139 22,217,832 83 Linux
/dev/sdc4 429,835,140 625,137,344 195,302,205 7 HPFS/NTFS


blkid -c /dev/null: __________________________________________________ __________

Device UUID TYPE LABEL

/dev/loop0 6a314770-5264-4c4f-9496-c497a01ae2e7 ext4
/dev/sda10 B22A9A262A99E81D ntfs CHIARA
/dev/sda1 9ABAAE68BAAE411D ntfs BARONI
/dev/sda5 64BE1AC0BE1A8AA6 ntfs RESOURCES
/dev/sda6 0E84A48684A4723F ntfs The Boys
/dev/sda7 BE94ADB294AD6E19 ntfs Jonathan
/dev/sda8 5830B68E30B6731C ntfs Shared Files
/dev/sda9 4E30A23730A225C5 ntfs Teaching
/dev/sdb1 6313A67F4CCC018F ntfs Bootable space
/dev/sdb5 429E50419E503021 ntfs Backup Configs
/dev/sdb6 50720F13720EFD8A ntfs Master Backup
/dev/sdc1 EC72C80A72C7D78A ntfs Vista OS
/dev/sdc2 8673cd24-c365-443f-9d42-9a60d3ce5559 swap
/dev/sdc4 42F2EF69F2EF5FA1 ntfs Linux
/dev/sdc5 81dcdc23-0117-42d6-9cff-1ec6c660d3a3 ext3 9.10
/dev/sdc6 394d5cf0-5030-4019-aa17-92a043614299 ext4 9.10 temp

============================ "mount | grep ^/dev output: ===========================

Device Mount_Point Type Options

/dev/sdc5 / ext3 (rw,errors=remount-ro)


============================= sdc1/etc/lilo.conf: =============================

paragon_jboot
image=/etc/psrdisk
label="###NdenHden"
initrd=/etc/psr.img
append="paragon_lang=en"

[darkod]

I know you are probably pi**ed off by now, but lets go backwards a bit.

You have a hell of a mess. In short, looks like two separate 9.10 installations, and on top of that wubi install inside vista. And on top of that, lilo boot files inside your vista partition, /dev/sdc1.

So lets stop for a moment and figure out what do you want to achieve.
Wubi is used only to try ubuntu and not as long term install. But you can do the similar by running the live mode.
Wubi can give you loads of issues if you try to keep it and use it as long term install. Not to mention that it's inside windows so if you get windows corrupted, wubi is gone too.

If you want to take the full dual boot approach (vista and 10.04 on separate partitions, independent), here is the suggestion:

- lets repair the vista boot process, so you can boot it and remove wubi (it would be in Programs, like a software app)
- if you have no data to extract from both of your 9.10 installations, lets delete their partitions, that will create unallocated space on the hdd
- use that space to install 10.04 into it

Problem solved, hopefully. :)

[Jonners59]

I know you are probably pi**ed off by now, but lets go backwards a bit.

You have a hell of a mess. In short, looks like two separate 9.10 installations, and on top of that wubi install inside vista. And on top of that, lilo boot files inside your vista partition, /dev/sdc1.

So lets stop for a moment and figure out what do you want to achieve.
Wubi is used only to try ubuntu and not as long term install. But you can do the similar by running the live mode.
Wubi can give you loads of issues if you try to keep it and use it as long term install. Not to mention that it's inside windows so if you get windows corrupted, wubi is gone too.

If you want to take the full dual boot approach (vista and 10.04 on separate partitions, independent), here is the suggestion:

- lets repair the vista boot process, so you can boot it and remove wubi (it would be in Programs, like a software app)
- if you have no data to extract from both of your 9.10 installations, lets delete their partitions, that will create unallocated space on the hdd
- use that space to install 10.04 into it

Problem solved, hopefully. :)

Thank you Darkod
I want to keep one of the 9.10s as it has allowed me to get in to the 10.4 when all else has failed, so one will be backup....

That said I will - on Sunday PM as it is #2 son's 7th birthday today and mayhem is due this weekend!! - remove Wabi from "Programs" in Vista as suggested. I did remove it from the C drive before, but if you believe there is still residue there then it may well explain the bogus "UBUNTU" in one of the GRUB menus... So I'll search for that and remove.

I will delete the spare 9.10. It was there only temp as it allowed me access after yet another failure.

I will try another 10.4 install after all that.

My concern is that I have been round all this MANY times, and it always fails, even when i get a good install after the update. But I have been at this for Over 2 weeks now so dong it again won't make that much difference.:popcorn:

Please don't disappear.

[darkod]

sdc4: __________________________________________________ _______________________

File system: ntfs
Boot sector type: Windows Vista/7
Boot sector info: No errors found in the Boot Parameter Block.
Operating System:
Boot files/dirs: /ubuntu/winboot/wubildr.mbr /ubuntu/winboot/wubildr
/ubuntu/disks/root.disk /ubuntu/disks/swap.disk

Wubi seems to be reported on /dev/sdc4. root.disk and swap.disk are the image files containing the data, in a virtual way they should represent the root and swap partitions. It doesn't look like only traces, but a wubi install.

Also, if you need quick access to failed ubuntu or windows system, you can use live mode anytime, either with the ubuntu cd or usb stick. No need to install on the hdd just so you can access the disk.

In fact, sometimes people have extracted data from a crashed windows installation without ever having ubuntu on the hdd. It works from the live cd directly. One of the big benefits.

Anyway, make a plan what you want to do, and once you get the free time we are all here. :)

[Jonners59]

Anyway, make a plan what you want to do, and once you get the free time we are all here. :)

Thanks Darkod

[Jonners59]

sdc4: __________________________________________________ _______________________

File system: ntfs
Boot sector type: Windows Vista/7
Boot sector info: No errors found in the Boot Parameter Block.
Operating System:
Boot files/dirs: /ubuntu/winboot/wubildr.mbr /ubuntu/winboot/wubildr
/ubuntu/disks/root.disk /ubuntu/disks/swap.disk

Wubi seems to be reported on /dev/sdc4. root.disk and swap.disk are the image files containing the data, in a virtual way they should represent the root and swap partitions. It doesn't look like only traces, but a wubi install.

Also, if you need quick access to failed ubuntu or windows system, you can use live mode anytime, either with the ubuntu cd or usb stick. No need to install on the hdd just so you can access the disk.

In fact, sometimes people have extracted data from a crashed windows installation without ever having ubuntu on the hdd. It works from the live cd directly. One of the big benefits.

Anyway, make a plan what you want to do, and once you get the free time we are all here. :)

Well, had a bad evening last night until 12:30 again.

I used "Programs and Features" in Vista to remove Ubuntu. I then did a search for any reference to Wubi or Ubuntu in Vista, deleting ANYTHING I found. I scrubbed (deleted and reformatted) all bar the Vista partitions. I then removed the Hard Drives with my docs and backup (of docs, not systems) on. I then reinstalled Ubuntu 9.10, creating a c15Gb SWAP, 5GB Boot (ext4) and c100+Gb 9.10 (ext4)....

I then upgraded via the update Manager to 10.4... I then reinstated the 2 hard drives. So what happened?

1. I have horrible with boot menus. I do not know if they are GRUB or something else.

Menu 1 shows a colourful menu, listed, top to bottom: VISTA, UBUNTU and GRUB (see picture: Menu 1).

1a. If I select Vista in Menu 1 I get Menu 2 (see picture: Menu 2), which lists, from top to bottom: Vista and UBUNTU.
1aa. If I select Vista it loads

1ab. but If I select UBUNTU it fails (see Picture: UBUNTU in Menur 2), which I assume is failing because I have removed the Wubi and it can not find it. This occurred before I did all the work this time.
1b. If I select UBUNTU in Menu 1, I get an attempt to load Ubuntu that fails (See Picture: UBUNTU in Menu 1), which I get out of by doing Ctrl+Alt+Delete

1c. If I select GRUB, I get a normal GRUB menu (See Picture: GRUB in Menu 1 = GRUB, last in the row of pictures)
I somehow need to remove Menu 1 completely, remove Ubuntu from Menu 2, though this later is not quite so important as it can be avoided. Can anyone help, please????

2. If I select 10.4, from the GRUB menu as described in 1c above, it boots.

I can hear the drum roll and music, but I get the black screen. If I the do Ctrl+Alt+ delete twice it shuts down and I get the new Ubuntu 10.4 logo just before it closes.

If I then try to load via Recovery, I open the menu and do fix broken, etc, and then try and open in "Default Resolution (this time only)" and it opens. There is even a "Print Screen" image on the desktop that I tried when I tried loading normally. So I believe the issue here is the Screen resolution. It can not recognise my monitor, an old IBM 19" CRT monitor, 6332-92N, so I presume I need to change the config somehow. Can anyone help, please???

:popcorn:

[darkod]

Because there were fundamental changes to your system, please run the script again and post the current results.txt content. We'll see what can be done.

It doesn't look too complicated, getting rid of bootloaders (or the boot menus) is very simple. But it's better to see the results first before issuing commands.

PS. Also, when running the script leave all internal hdds connected. Lets see how it looks with all of them connected. I get the feeling there is some bootloader on your docs hdd and it remained there and is now being used as primary.

[Jonners59]

Because there were fundamental changes to your system, please run the script again and post the current results.txt content. We'll see what can be done.

It doesn't look too complicated, getting rid of bootloaders (or the boot menus) is very simple. But it's better to see the results first before issuing commands.

PS. Also, when running the script leave all internal hdds connected. Lets see how it looks with all of them connected. I get the feeling there is some bootloader on your docs hdd and it remained there and is now being used as primary.

I had no intention of disconnecting them. No fear of that.

Sorry for taking so long to get back. I had to reboot from Vista to 10.4, and then I found I could not access any of the HD from the PC I am working from now, so had to reload Vista. That is something else that will need to be set up. The ability for PCs and Laptops to access the HDs, and visa versa... Another day.

OK, test run. The PARAGON is interesting as it appears in one of the faulty options. I also read somewhere that it is a partition/backup sw... I had the colourful menu after running Partition Commander and running a boot backup. I deleted and removed it. I wonder if this is a remnant?????


Boot Info Script 0.55 dated February 15th, 2010

============================= Boot Info Summary: ==============================

=> Paragon is installed in the MBR of /dev/sda
=> Lilo is installed in the MBR of /dev/sdb
=> Lilo is installed in the MBR of /dev/sdc

sda1: __________________________________________________ _______________________

File system: ntfs
Boot sector type: Windows Vista/7
Boot sector info: No errors found in the Boot Parameter Block.
Operating System: Windows Vista
Boot files/dirs: /etc/lilo.conf /bootmgr /Boot/BCD
/Windows/System32/winload.exe

sda2: __________________________________________________ _______________________

File system: swap
Boot sector type: -
Boot sector info:

sda3: __________________________________________________ _______________________

File system: ext4
Boot sector type: Grub 2
Boot sector info: Grub 2 is installed in the boot sector of sda3 and
looks at sector 347714187 of the same hard drive for
core.img, but core.img can not be found at this
location.
Operating System:
Boot files/dirs: /grub/grub.cfg /grub/core.img

sda4: __________________________________________________ _______________________

File system: ext4
Boot sector type: -
Boot sector info:
Operating System: Ubuntu 10.04 LTS
Boot files/dirs: /etc/fstab

sdb1: __________________________________________________ _______________________

File system: ntfs
Boot sector type: Windows Vista/7
Boot sector info: No errors found in the Boot Parameter Block.
Operating System:
Boot files/dirs:

sdb2: __________________________________________________ _______________________

File system: Extended Partition
Boot sector type: -
Boot sector info:

sdb5: __________________________________________________ _______________________

File system: ntfs
Boot sector type: Windows Vista/7
Boot sector info: According to the info in the boot sector, sdb5 starts
at sector 63.
Operating System:
Boot files/dirs:

sdb6: __________________________________________________ _______________________

File system: ntfs
Boot sector type: Windows XP
Boot sector info: According to the info in the boot sector, sdb6 starts
at sector 63.
Operating System:
Boot files/dirs:

sdb7: __________________________________________________ _______________________

File system: ntfs
Boot sector type: Windows XP
Boot sector info: According to the info in the boot sector, sdb7 starts
at sector 63.
Operating System:
Boot files/dirs:

sdb8: __________________________________________________ _______________________

File system: ntfs
Boot sector type: Windows XP
Boot sector info: According to the info in the boot sector, sdb8 starts
at sector 63.
Operating System:
Boot files/dirs:

sdb9: __________________________________________________ _______________________

File system: ntfs
Boot sector type: Windows XP
Boot sector info: According to the info in the boot sector, sdb9 starts
at sector 63.
Operating System:
Boot files/dirs:

sdb10: __________________________________________________ _______________________

File system: ntfs
Boot sector type: Windows Vista/7
Boot sector info: According to the info in the boot sector, sdb10 starts
at sector 63.
Operating System:
Boot files/dirs:

sdc1: __________________________________________________ _______________________

File system: Extended Partition
Boot sector type: -
Boot sector info:

sdc5: __________________________________________________ _______________________

File system: ntfs
Boot sector type: Windows Vista/7
Boot sector info: According to the info in the boot sector, sdc5 starts
at sector 319. But according to the info from fdisk,
sdc5 starts at sector 16384.
Operating System:
Boot files/dirs:

sdc6: __________________________________________________ _______________________

File system: ntfs
Boot sector type: Windows Vista/7
Boot sector info: According to the info in the boot sector, sdc6 starts
at sector 2048.
Operating System:
Boot files/dirs:

=========================== Drive/Partition Info: =============================

Drive: sda ___________________ __________________________________________________ ___

Disk /dev/sda: 320.1 GB, 320072933376 bytes
255 heads, 63 sectors/track, 38913 cylinders, total 625142448 sectors
Units = sectors of 1 * 512 = 512 bytes
Sector size (logical/physical): 512 bytes / 512 bytes

Partition Boot Start End Size Id System

/dev/sda1 2,048 319,259,744 319,257,697 7 HPFS/NTFS
/dev/sda2 319,260,672 347,435,007 28,174,336 82 Linux swap / Solaris
/dev/sda3 * 347,437,755 363,422,429 15,984,675 83 Linux
/dev/sda4 363,422,430 625,137,344 261,714,915 83 Linux


Drive: sdb ___________________ __________________________________________________ ___

Disk /dev/sdb: 750.2 GB, 750156374016 bytes
255 heads, 63 sectors/track, 91201 cylinders, total 1465149168 sectors
Units = sectors of 1 * 512 = 512 bytes
Sector size (logical/physical): 512 bytes / 512 bytes

Partition Boot Start End Size Id System

/dev/sdb1 63 206,772,614 206,772,552 7 HPFS/NTFS
/dev/sdb2 206,772,615 1,465,144,064 1,258,371,450 f W95 Ext d (LBA)
/dev/sdb5 206,772,678 416,501,189 209,728,512 7 HPFS/NTFS
/dev/sdb6 416,501,253 626,229,764 209,728,512 7 HPFS/NTFS
/dev/sdb7 626,229,828 835,958,339 209,728,512 7 HPFS/NTFS
/dev/sdb8 835,958,403 1,045,686,914 209,728,512 7 HPFS/NTFS
/dev/sdb9 1,045,686,978 1,255,415,489 209,728,512 7 HPFS/NTFS
/dev/sdb10 1,255,415,553 1,465,144,064 209,728,512 7 HPFS/NTFS


Drive: sdc ___________________ __________________________________________________ ___

Disk /dev/sdc: 1000.2 GB, 1000204886016 bytes
255 heads, 63 sectors/track, 121601 cylinders, total 1953525168 sectors
Units = sectors of 1 * 512 = 512 bytes
Sector size (logical/physical): 512 bytes / 512 bytes

Partition Boot Start End Size Id System

/dev/sdc1 16,065 1,953,520,064 1,953,504,000 5 Extended
/dev/sdc5 16,384 110,319,615 110,303,232 7 HPFS/NTFS
/dev/sdc6 110,321,664 1,953,519,615 1,843,197,952 7 HPFS/NTFS


blkid -c /dev/null: __________________________________________________ __________

Device UUID TYPE LABEL

/dev/sda1 EC72C80A72C7D78A ntfs Vista OS
/dev/sda2 5414e1bc-87c6-4c99-83cb-a7d944c625d1 swap
/dev/sda3 cdb1d54a-27ee-4e99-84a4-4b4521412145 ext4
/dev/sda4 febd65f3-6a6d-4b12-8f7d-abff516d083d ext4
/dev/sda: PTTYPE="dos"
/dev/sdb10 B22A9A262A99E81D ntfs CHIARA
/dev/sdb1 9ABAAE68BAAE411D ntfs BARONI
/dev/sdb2: PTTYPE="dos"
/dev/sdb5 64BE1AC0BE1A8AA6 ntfs RESOURCES
/dev/sdb6 0E84A48684A4723F ntfs The Boys
/dev/sdb7 BE94ADB294AD6E19 ntfs Jonathan
/dev/sdb8 5830B68E30B6731C ntfs Shared Files
/dev/sdb9 4E30A23730A225C5 ntfs Teaching
/dev/sdb: PTTYPE="dos"
/dev/sdc1: PTTYPE="dos"
/dev/sdc5 429E50419E503021 ntfs Backup Configs
/dev/sdc6 50720F13720EFD8A ntfs Master Backup
/dev/sdc: PTTYPE="dos"

============================ "mount | grep ^/dev output: ===========================

Device Mount_Point Type Options

/dev/sda4 / ext4 (rw,errors=remount-ro)
/dev/sda3 /boot ext4 (rw)
/dev/sdb5 /media/RESOURCES fuseblk (rw,nosuid,nodev,allow_other,blksize=4096,default_ permissions)


============================= sda1/etc/lilo.conf: =============================

paragon_jboot
image=/etc/psrdisk
label="###NdenHden"
initrd=/etc/psr.img
append="paragon_lang=en"

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============================= sda3/grub/grub.cfg: =============================

#
# DO NOT EDIT THIS FILE
#
# It is automatically generated by /usr/sbin/grub-mkconfig using templates
# from /etc/grub.d and settings from /etc/default/grub
#

### BEGIN /etc/grub.d/00_header ###
if [ -s $prefix/grubenv ]; then
load_env
fi
set default="0"
if [ ${prev_saved_entry} ]; then
set saved_entry=${prev_saved_entry}
save_env saved_entry
set prev_saved_entry=
save_env prev_saved_entry
set boot_once=true
fi

function savedefault {
if [ -z ${boot_once} ]; then
saved_entry=${chosen}
save_env saved_entry
fi
}

function recordfail {
set recordfail=1
if [ -n ${have_grubenv} ]; then if [ -z ${boot_once} ]; then save_env recordfail; fi; fi
}
insmod ext2
set root='(hd0,4)'
search --no-floppy --fs-uuid --set febd65f3-6a6d-4b12-8f7d-abff516d083d
if loadfont /usr/share/grub/unicode.pf2 ; then
set gfxmode=640x480
insmod gfxterm
insmod vbe
if terminal_output gfxterm ; then true ; else
# For backward compatibility with versions of terminal.mod that don't
# understand terminal_output
terminal gfxterm
fi
fi
insmod ext2
set root='(hd0,3)'
search --no-floppy --fs-uuid --set cdb1d54a-27ee-4e99-84a4-4b4521412145
set locale_dir=($root)/grub/locale
set lang=en
insmod gettext
if [ ${recordfail} = 1 ]; then
set timeout=-1
else
set timeout=10
fi
### END /etc/grub.d/00_header ###

### BEGIN /etc/grub.d/05_debian_theme ###
set menu_color_normal=white/black
set menu_color_highlight=black/light-gray
### END /etc/grub.d/05_debian_theme ###

### BEGIN /etc/grub.d/10_linux ###
menuentry 'Ubuntu, with Linux 2.6.32-22-generic-pae' --class ubuntu --class gnu-linux --class gnu --class os {
recordfail
insmod ext2
set root='(hd0,3)'
search --no-floppy --fs-uuid --set cdb1d54a-27ee-4e99-84a4-4b4521412145
linux /vmlinuz-2.6.32-22-generic-pae root=UUID=febd65f3-6a6d-4b12-8f7d-abff516d083d ro quiet splash
initrd /initrd.img-2.6.32-22-generic-pae
}
menuentry 'Ubuntu, with Linux 2.6.32-22-generic-pae (recovery mode)' --class ubuntu --class gnu-linux --class gnu --class os {
recordfail
insmod ext2
set root='(hd0,3)'
search --no-floppy --fs-uuid --set cdb1d54a-27ee-4e99-84a4-4b4521412145
echo 'Loading Linux 2.6.32-22-generic-pae ...'
linux /vmlinuz-2.6.32-22-generic-pae root=UUID=febd65f3-6a6d-4b12-8f7d-abff516d083d ro single
echo 'Loading initial ramdisk ...'
initrd /initrd.img-2.6.32-22-generic-pae
}
menuentry 'Ubuntu, with Linux 2.6.31-21-generic-pae' --class ubuntu --class gnu-linux --class gnu --class os {
recordfail
insmod ext2
set root='(hd0,3)'
search --no-floppy --fs-uuid --set cdb1d54a-27ee-4e99-84a4-4b4521412145
linux /vmlinuz-2.6.31-21-generic-pae root=UUID=febd65f3-6a6d-4b12-8f7d-abff516d083d ro quiet splash
initrd /initrd.img-2.6.31-21-generic-pae
}
menuentry 'Ubuntu, with Linux 2.6.31-21-generic-pae (recovery mode)' --class ubuntu --class gnu-linux --class gnu --class os {
recordfail
insmod ext2
set root='(hd0,3)'
search --no-floppy --fs-uuid --set cdb1d54a-27ee-4e99-84a4-4b4521412145
echo 'Loading Linux 2.6.31-21-generic-pae ...'
linux /vmlinuz-2.6.31-21-generic-pae root=UUID=febd65f3-6a6d-4b12-8f7d-abff516d083d ro single
echo 'Loading initial ramdisk ...'
initrd /initrd.img-2.6.31-21-generic-pae
}
### END /etc/grub.d/10_linux ###

### BEGIN /etc/grub.d/20_memtest86+ ###
menuentry "Memory test (memtest86+)" {
insmod ext2
set root='(hd0,3)'
search --no-floppy --fs-uuid --set cdb1d54a-27ee-4e99-84a4-4b4521412145
linux16 /memtest86+.bin
}
menuentry "Memory test (memtest86+, serial console 115200)" {
insmod ext2
set root='(hd0,3)'
search --no-floppy --fs-uuid --set cdb1d54a-27ee-4e99-84a4-4b4521412145
linux16 /memtest86+.bin console=ttyS0,115200n8
}
### END /etc/grub.d/20_memtest86+ ###

### BEGIN /etc/grub.d/30_os-prober ###
menuentry "Windows Vista (loader) (on /dev/sda1)" {
insmod ntfs
set root='(hd0,1)'
search --no-floppy --fs-uuid --set ec72c80a72c7d78a
chainloader +1
}
### END /etc/grub.d/30_os-prober ###

### BEGIN /etc/grub.d/40_custom ###
# This file provides an easy way to add custom menu entries. Simply type the
# menu entries you want to add after this comment. Be careful not to change
# the 'exec tail' line above.
### END /etc/grub.d/40_custom ###

=================== sda3: Location of files loaded by Grub: ===================


178.0GB: grub/core.img
178.0GB: grub/grub.cfg
178.0GB: initrd.img-2.6.31-21-generic-pae
178.0GB: initrd.img-2.6.32-22-generic-pae
178.0GB: vmlinuz-2.6.31-21-generic-pae
178.0GB: vmlinuz-2.6.32-22-generic-pae

=============================== sda4/etc/fstab: ===============================

# /etc/fstab: static file system information.
#
# Use 'blkid -o value -s UUID' to print the universally unique identifier
# for a device; this may be used with UUID= as a more robust way to name
# devices that works even if disks are added and removed. See fstab(5).
#
# <file system> <mount point> <type> <options> <dump> <pass>
proc /proc proc defaults 0 0
# / was on /dev/sda4 during installation
UUID=febd65f3-6a6d-4b12-8f7d-abff516d083d / ext4 errors=remount-ro 0 1
# /boot was on /dev/sda3 during installation
UUID=cdb1d54a-27ee-4e99-84a4-4b4521412145 /boot ext4 defaults 0 2
# swap was on /dev/sda2 during installation
UUID=5414e1bc-87c6-4c99-83cb-a7d944c625d1 none swap sw 0 0
/dev/scd0 /media/cdrom0 udf,iso9660 user,noauto,exec,utf8 0 0
/dev/fd0 /media/floppy0 auto rw,user,noauto,exec,utf8 0 0

=================== sda4: Location of files loaded by Grub: ===================


186.2GB: initrd.img
186.2GB: initrd.img.old
186.2GB: vmlinuz
186.2GB: vmlinuz.old

[darkod]

OK, few things to do:

Number 1:
Set the 320GB disk (/dev/sda) as first hdd boot option in BIOS, if it already isn't.

Number 2:
Boot in ubuntu live mode.


Disk /dev/sda: 320.1 GB, 320072933376 bytes
255 heads, 63 sectors/track, 38913 cylinders, total 625142448 sectors
Units = sectors of 1 * 512 = 512 bytes
Sector size (logical/physical): 512 bytes / 512 bytes

Partition Boot Start End Size Id System

/dev/sda1 2,048 319,259,744 319,257,697 7 HPFS/NTFS
/dev/sda2 319,260,672 347,435,007 28,174,336 82 Linux swap / Solaris
/dev/sda3 * 347,437,755 363,422,429 15,984,675 83 Linux
/dev/sda4 363,422,430 625,137,344 261,714,915 83 LinuxThe boot flag is on /dev/sda3. You windows system partition is /dev/sda1. Windows can't boot without the boot flag while linux doesn't need it.

Open Gparted (System-Administration), right-click /dev/sda3 and set the boot flag OFF, then right-click /dev/sda1 and set the bot flag ON. The flags might be in submenu after the right-click, look around.

Number 3:
While still in live mode, reinstall grub2 on the MBR of /dev/sda instead of paragon. You have separate boot partition as /dev/sda3 so you have to mount it too. In terminal execute:

sudo mount /dev/sda4 /mnt
sudo mount /dev/sda3 /mnt/boot
sudo grub-install --root-directory=/mnt /dev/sda

Restart and you should see the proper grub2 which should be able to boot both ubuntu and windows. If windows still doesn't work, boot ubuntu and from /dev/sda1 remove /etc/lilo.conf, it's not needed there. I think it would work even if it remains there, removing it later is probably a good choice.

[Jonners59]

OK, I am in there now, via recovery mode - only access I have. I checked the boot order and that was correct... I am very uncertain about this so don't go away, please!!!!

I assume I just take note of all the info and go straight to gParted bit. Did not have this so am downloading as I write

It's very slow. I set it up in Synaptic to download, wrote to you, and then decided to install on another machine. That other machine completed the entire task before this started the install, which it is still doing???

OK done the changes - I like gParted!!!!

Now about to reboot

[darkod]

I thought you will use it from the cd, in live mode (Try Ubuntu mode). It should be included in the cd.

Yes, on the hdd installation it's not included by default.

PS. If you don't have an ubuntu cd wait a minute, because you will need it for task 3.

[Jonners59]

I thought you will use it from the cd, in live mode (Try Ubuntu mode). It should be included in the cd.

Yes, on the hdd installation it's not included by default.

PS. If you don't have an ubuntu cd wait a minute, because you will need it for task 3.

All done..... Your a star!!! :guitar: Well almost. Did not need the Live CD (just seen your message as I have just booted in).

I now do not have menu 1, the colourful one.
I boot into the GRUB menu - very nice.

When I select Vista, I get another menu, with the UBUNTU listed that I do not want. Would be nice to remove, but it works without... I can load Vista perfectly.

Then re booting again, I can load 10.4 in recovery mode.

So, can I now:

Remove the additional UBUNTU in Menu 2?
How do I get the normal 10.4 to work. I am sure it is the resolution...?

[darkod]

Good to hear it's working.

But I get slightly confused.

1. What normal ubuntu are you talking about? When the first grub2 loads up, if you select ubuntu in there, that's your hdd ubuntu installation.

2. It seems your vista bootloader has entries for vista and some ubuntu (not sure from where from). If you want to remove this entry, you need to use windows commands. I haven't really used them too much, I rarely need them. If you read around for instructions on bcdedit, that is what you would need to use. Something like:

bcdedit /remove ubuntu

You need to run this from vista, in command prompt with Admin rights (in Accessories right-click command prompt and select Run as Administrator). But the above command is example, you need to find the exact syntax needed.

[Jonners59]

Cheers for that, I will...

Do you know how to fix the matter of not being able to access 10.4? I have to use Recovery mode and default resolution to get access, like now. If I use the normal boot, it seems to load, but I have a blank screen. I can hear the boot up drums and music, and if I shut down I often get the Ubuntu logo appear briefly.

[darkod]

Cheers for that, I will...

Do you know how to fix the matter of not being able to access 10.4? I have to use Recovery mode and default resolution to get access, like now. If I use the normal boot, it seems to load, but I have a blank screen. I can hear the boot up drums and music, and if I shut down I often get the Ubuntu logo appear briefly.

OK, I understand now. Give me some time, still haven't had my dinner. :)

[oldfred]

Darko, you must be eating late, I am currently in Fla. and now going out for dinner here.

Just to get you started. Without knowing what video card here are several choices. The nomodeset seems common to many versions.

On first boot after install, press e on getting the GRUB bootloader.
Using arrow keys navigate to and delete quiet and splash and type the word nomodeset in their place
Press Ctrl and X to boot (low graphics mode)

After I installed nvidia driver (default from pop up) then it has worked without issue.

if you've got an intel graphics card, then the usual fix is to either add i915.modeset=1 or i915.modeset=0 to your boot
Other workarounds:
https://wiki.ubuntu.com/X/Bugs/Lucidi8xxFreezes

ATI/Radeon
https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RadeonDriver

Lucid 10.04 KMS
https://wiki.ubuntu.com/X/KernelModeSetting
# Nvidia (this should revert you to using -nv or -vesa):
echo options nouveau modeset=0 > /etc/modprobe.d/nouveau-kms.conf

to see what video you have:
lspci | grep VGA

[Jonners59]

Hello Oldfred
Always popping in to the rescue.

I have had enough for this evening, so will take a look at this tomorrow. I'll keep you posted.

PS. I have a string of other threads that have not been answered. You may be able to assist with. All referring to my other PC.

[oldfred]

After updating in place for 3 years and having issues or fun figuring out what to fix, I bought a new drive with lots of room and installed Karmic clean. I reorganized as I had just root & swap with a small shared FAT partition for windows stuff.

The clean install of Karmic so so good, I decided to always do clean installs but have programs & settings that I want to keep besides that in /home. So I tried to do everything I could with the terminal and listed history. I then converted that list to a simple bash file (as it grew it may not be as simple but I still am learning bash). I then found my portable that I use for travel with XP was for the nth time not connecting with Samba so I just installed Karmic and ran my scripts. And converted to NFS which has worked well.

I would suggest if you are working with more than one system planning ahead, do clean installs and script as much as possible.

[Jonners59]

Darko, you must be eating late, I am currently in Fla. and now going out for dinner here.

Just to get you started. Without knowing what video card here are several choices. The nomodeset seems common to many versions.

On first boot after install, press e on getting the GRUB bootloader.
Using arrow keys navigate to and delete quiet and splash and type the word nomodeset in their place
Press Ctrl and X to boot (low graphics mode)

SORTED!!!!!! Thank you

[Jonners59]

Just to get you started. Without knowing what video card here are several choices. The nomodeset seems common to many versions.

On first boot after install, press e on getting the GRUB bootloader.
Using arrow keys navigate to and delete quiet and splash and type the word nomodeset in their place
Press Ctrl and X to boot (low graphics mode)
spci | grep VGA

Hi Oldfred
Sorry, it's me again. I had to rebuild the machine again. I had lost network and no one seemed to know how to restore it, so I took the plunge. Anyway the long and short of it, I have the same inability to boot into the normal kernal, I have to load in to recovery mode and the low graphics.

i tried to select "e" on Grub2 Menu as before, but I get the wrong options. It just has 4 lines of script, and not the one I was expecting to replace "quiet and splash" with "nomodeset. Where am I going wrong??????