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northfly
April 26th, 2010, 05:19 PM
Now that thinkpad and some other brand have these or those problems with ubuntu, why can't we have a machine designed by all ubuntu or linux fans? designed it for ourself.

Grenage
April 26th, 2010, 05:23 PM
Could you even begin to imagine the resources, skill, manpower and funding required to make something remotely competitive? ;)

Temüjin
April 26th, 2010, 05:26 PM
http://www.system76.com/

northfly
April 26th, 2010, 07:05 PM
That one is really a little bit ugly......

dtown240
April 27th, 2010, 05:19 AM
That one is really a little bit ugly......

Style costs more. :D
do you want Open Source, or elegant styling?

Grenage
April 27th, 2010, 08:47 AM
Are you telling me that System76 use open source hardware?

dtown240
April 28th, 2010, 04:01 AM
Nope, System 76 does not use Open Source Hardware. No computer manufacturer to my knowledge does (or could). Manufacturing processes for motherboards using modern processors, LCD Panels, and HID's (keyboards, and touchpads) are all prohibitively complex/intricate for the standard home users.

Even if you could reproduce these items, they would probably cost you more (in time and money) than the ones that are mass-produced under license or a blank white-box computer/laptop. Don't get me wrong, I would love it if the opposite were true, I feel that I'm just being realistic.

Grenage
April 28th, 2010, 08:50 AM
Realistic indeed! There is an open-source BIOS project out there, that works on many vendor's boards; that's the closest thing I've seen.

djhvt
April 28th, 2010, 09:06 AM
the touchbook comes the closest ive seen: http://www.alwaysinnovating.com (http://www.alwaysinnovating.com/home/)

israelrt
April 28th, 2010, 09:09 AM
Now that thinkpad and some other brand have these or those problems with ubuntu, why can't we have a machine designed by all ubuntu or linux fans? designed it for ourself.

Richard Stallman -- On "Free Hardware"
http://features.linuxtoday.com/news_story.php3?ltsn=1999-06-22-005-05-NW-LF
Also see
http://opencores.org/
http://wiki.opengraphics.org/tiki-index.php
http://www.arduino.cc/
http://www.oshwbank.org/
http://www.google.com/Top/Computers/Hardware/Open_Source/

andygraybeal
April 28th, 2010, 12:35 PM
what does anyone know about this? http://www.viaopenbook.com/

i think it sounds very promising and i hope the best for it!

-andy

djhvt
April 29th, 2010, 07:26 AM
It is a reference design that is registered under creative commons. VIA did this with the original Nanobook so it would allow for clones at low cost for vendors, which would then increase orders for their hardware so VIA could make money.

VIA doesn't actual sell it as a consumer product, but rather encourages vendors to use the design so they do not have to come up with something on their own. The original was kind of a disaster and didnt work very well for the most part mostly due to graphics issues and sluggish performance compared to similarly price Intel units.

Openchrome has come a good ways since the first effort so maybe the end product would be pretty good, assuming no one associates it with the original.

Fafler
April 29th, 2010, 01:51 PM
Theres the Open Pandora. It aims to be somewhat what the OP suggested, although it's more a handheld gaming device than a fullblown laptop. That, and it's still not shipping. http://www.open-pandora.org/

Besides that, building a complete opensource laptop is not feasible for a lot of reasons. System76 is, as mentioned earlier in this thread a good alternative, as it's guaranteed to work with Ubuntu.

northfly
April 29th, 2010, 05:05 PM
really opened my view now!

shortpaw
May 1st, 2010, 02:18 AM
I'm not sure if this fits your criteria, but I've been looking at "ZaReason". http://zareason.com/
Hope this helps.

djhvt
May 16th, 2010, 05:56 AM
Zareason is a smaller competitor to System76, the hardware is not open source just like System76. However like System76 and select preloaded Dells there is comprehensive driver support that should, in theory make set up easier.

aysiu
May 16th, 2010, 08:22 AM
Zareason is a smaller competitor to System76, the hardware is not open source just like System76. However like System76 and select preloaded Dells there is comprehensive driver support that should, in theory make set up easier.
Can you explain on what basis you are making this statement that System76 has open source hardware and ZaReason does not?

I couldn't find statements on either's website verifying or refuting what you said.

djhvt
July 22nd, 2010, 11:13 AM
Thats not what i said actually:
"Zareason is a smaller competitor to System76, the hardware is not open source just like System76."

As other have pointed out it would be nearly impossible to develop and open-source hardware set for a laptop as so much of the form factor has been copyrighted. As i stated before the closest I have seen is the Touchbook which is based on the Beagalboard.