Which is better? eog or gThumb? [Archive]

Arktis

March 17th, 2006, 09:19 PM

Recently I've dumped the eog (default image preview program for gnome) file association with images in favor of gThumb, which in my opinion is way better. It actually shows animated gifs properly and has a few more features.

Try it for yourself; right-click on an image file and select properties, then click the 'opens with' tab and select gThumb. Double click image files of that type to open them in gThumb just as they would be opened in eog.

I think eog should be dropped and gThumb should take it's place as the default. It's already installed along side of it anyways and IMHO there is no need for both; one is obviously better than the other and can do everything you could possibly need plus a few extras. Plus you can completely remove eog from your system without having to sacrifice anything else along with it.

So, which do you think is better? Should eog be dropped in favor of gThumb?

magnusbb

March 17th, 2006, 11:38 PM

I disagree. In my experience Eog does the job. I don't need various options for altering the pictures - I want to see them, present them, and in a quick way. I cannot use the scroll wheel to zoom pictures in gThumb, it isn't that snappy on my computer as Eog is, and generally it is not as logical in it's design as Eog is.

For real image management, I have yet to find a decent application on the Linux plattform. At this time, I happen to use Google's excellent Picasa2 through WINE, and it works great! So, as long as we're talking image viewing, I'll stick to Eog.

arctic

March 17th, 2006, 11:44 PM

Both tools are fine. Most users will only want to see one picture at a time, not a whole directory. So keep it as it is. gThumb is superior, but more than many people really need.

As a journalist, I prefer gThumb for browsing through pictures I took and archiving them.

darkmatter

March 18th, 2006, 12:22 AM

Most users will only want to see one picture at a time, not a whole directory.

gThumb is better in many ways... however, on the above point, the current eog has an 'image collection' browser. at the bottom of the window that displays all the thumbs for that diectory, and allows you o browse the displayed image with the scrollwheel.

Personally, I like them both, as each has its use.

Though I prefer f-spot for my image collections.

landotter

March 18th, 2006, 12:46 AM

neither.

GQview is fast as a bat outta hell, and a great image viewer with a similar "film strip" approach as GThumb.

Gthumb is still nice for fast machines and does great web albums. However GQview makes a much smarter default image viewer, imho.

fuscia

March 18th, 2006, 12:46 AM

gqview does it for me.

Arktis

March 18th, 2006, 12:56 AM

I disagree. In my experience Eog does the job.Not for viewing animated gifs. Majorly annoying.

Both tools are fine. Most users will only want to see one picture at a time, not a whole directory.The gThumb devs must have thought of this, because if gThumb is set as the defualt image viewer, you are presented with a simple one image veiw almost identical to eog. Set it as the default and double click an image file as I suggested in my first post - see for yourself.

GQview is fast as a bat outta hell, and a great image viewer with a similar "film strip" approach as GThumb.

Gthumb is still nice for fast machines and does great web albums. However GQview makes a much smarter default image viewer, imho.Sounds good. I'll have to check that out, since magnusbb raised the issue that gThumb has speed issues on his hardware, maybe GQView is the better choice.

Edit: nope... gqview's interface is too overwhelming when you just wanna do a quick preview. It also does not fully handle animated gifs.

ComplexNumber

March 18th, 2006, 01:35 AM

i voted for "gThumb is superior and there is no need for eog at all". gthunb is the best image viewer on linux. better than eog and all the many kde one's.

GazaM

March 18th, 2006, 01:53 AM

For anyone running Dapper, or anyone willing to compile the latest version manually if on breezy or another distro, go and try the latest F-Spot right now. It's an amazingly good app, one of the greatest on any platform, rivalling Googles Picasa2.

One thing I didn't realise about F-Spot (which I only found whilst using Alacarte to edit my menus) was that F-Spot can be used to view single files once off, with a simplified interface a la EOG. Once I found this I promptly opened up Synaptic and uninstalled both EOG and gThumb. The only thing I will say about it is that it doesn't seem to play animated gif's and I'm not sure what the plans on this are from the devs.

Either way, F-Spot rocks... It's a pity it may not become default for a while due to mono dependencies, but it's inevitable when the quality is this good.

Virogenesis

March 18th, 2006, 02:09 AM

I personaly like pornview and f-spot.
Pornview is fantasic for browsering pics and f-spot is the dogs bollocks when it comes to sorting pictures personaly I'd say f-spot is best for most users.

papangul

March 18th, 2006, 03:30 AM

I find the 'zoom using scroll wheel' feature of eog is quite cool. But gthumb is absolute necessary. Also xnview is very good.
Use any of them or F-spot anything else, just don't ask this sort of questions . :)

IGNIZ

March 18th, 2006, 04:02 AM

gqview

ComplexNumber

March 18th, 2006, 12:49 PM

The only thing I will say about it is that it doesn't seem to play animated gif's and I'm not sure what the plans on this are from the devs.
gthumb plays animated gifs, though.

engla

March 18th, 2006, 01:50 PM

Both are pretty bad for viewing single files, just because they take some time to launch.
And no wonder they are bad at it, they are not meant to be used for that; easily judged by seeing that they actually look at each and every image in the directory when a single file is opened.
Thanks to this thread, I'm now using gqview.

However, of the two, I far prefer gThumb, and it's helpful for dealing with taken photos, sorting and rotating them.

ComplexNumber

March 18th, 2006, 02:00 PM

Thanks to this thread, I'm now using gqview. gqview is another good program. but it doesn't load any more quickly that gthumb. they are probably about equal because both offer functionality that the other can't. for example: gqview can't view animated gifs whereas gthumb can.

landotter

March 18th, 2006, 04:34 PM

gqview's interface is too overwhelming when you just wanna do a quick preview. It also does not fully handle animated gifs.

Just set gqview to not show the toolbar by default. tada! elegant interface.

showing animated gifs is a feature, but not a requirement for any image viewer as far as I'm concerned.

gthumb is fairly light on resources but does start more slowly than gqview on my box at least, and gthumb's default layout is quite stupid. Most of us are used to the big picture, with folder filmstrip chooser paradigm, but gthumb requires going into the preferences and the menu: two seperate tweaks just to get that sort of interface. Dumb.

egorgry

March 18th, 2006, 04:38 PM

I've used gThumb for a long time now and I love it. eog doesn't cut it for me, I'm a photography enthusist with over 8k pictures. However I've bee using f-spot latley and I'm falling in love all over again.

PatrickMay16

March 18th, 2006, 04:58 PM

Eye of GNOME and gThumb are good for different things.
EOG is good if there's a small image or single image you just came across in a folder, and you want to quickly open it to look at it.
gThumb is good if you have a whole lot of images to view, like a series of scans from a comic book or something, or a folder full of images you want to view one after the other.

They're good in their own ways.

EDIT:HOT DAMN! I made some mistakes. Sorry.

Project 318

March 18th, 2006, 06:07 PM

gThumb for viewing more than one image
gqview for viewing single images

ComplexNumber

March 18th, 2006, 06:13 PM

gThumb for viewing more than one image
gqview for viewing single images actually, i think thats a good summary. i would add that gqview is adept for viewing multiple images too...its just not got everything that gthumb has, in that respect. in gqview, one can easily view single images quickly and efficiently. thats not really possible with gthumb.
on balance, i think they're equally as good.

Wolki

March 18th, 2006, 10:18 PM

I like eog now (since it got the back/next functionality). Simple and goes out of my way,

gThumb is good if you have a whole lot of images to view, like a series of scans from a comic book or something, or a folder full of images you want to view one after the other.

I find Comix better for comic books. :) I hear gThumb is quite good for photos, though.

Scunizi

March 23rd, 2006, 12:59 AM

I new enough at this I really don't have a preferance. However, gThumb & EON don't display multipage tiff images. I have a specific need to open a multipage B&W fax image, delete pages, add text or an image and save for refaxing. I haven't found anything like that yet for Linux. Evince comes close by allowing me to view the fax without any editing function. Efax or J2 messenger (windows based) does this without a hitch. Anyone know of an answer to this problem? It'll put me one more step toward completely eliminating Win$$.

Arktis

March 23rd, 2006, 01:48 AM

I'll try to be nice here...

I new enough at this I really don't have a preferance. However, gThumb & EON don't display multipage tiff images.I'm curious as to what exactly does. Does anyone know if the windows image previewer even displays these multi-page tiff files? I'm just curious because that's probably what the accepted standard in this case would be. I don't have a copy of windows myself, so I can't check. I will however, take this opportunity to respond with the following quote from "The Unofficial TIFF Home Page (http://home.earthlink.net/~ritter/tiff/)" (search engines are your FRIEND):

It is very easy to write a TIFF-writer, but very difficult to write a fully TIFF compliant reader.Read more from that page to discover why. Now I'm not saying that an image previewer shouldn't read everything you throw at it, I'm just saying that you should expect that some of the more obscure stuff will give you problems. I think you should file a bug report. Now onto the next bit:

I have a specific need to open a multipage B&W fax image, delete pages, add text or an image and save for refaxing.That is indeed a very specific need. Granted, gThumb has extra features that allow for photo manipulation, but that doesn't make it a fully fledged all purpose handy image editor. Also, suggesting that an image previewer should do as you expressed is waaaaay more than just a stretch.

Search synaptic. Doing that, I found some promising results for 'tiff' right away.

s|k

March 23rd, 2006, 01:49 AM

I like gthumb.

Scunizi

March 23rd, 2006, 04:06 AM

Thanks Arktis,

I've done numerous searches but never ... daah... searched on Tiff. There are quite a few referanced in Synaptic I'll have to go through to see if I can make them work. As to your question about Windows Picture and Fax Viewer, it will load and display color & B&W multipage Tiff files showing one page at a time with some arrow buttons at the bottom for switching pages. It will also allow some editing (re: text imbeding) into the document. On a side note, I got IE6 installed using ies4linux. A manditory program for some sites I use. It runs under Wine. So I thought I'd try one of the Tiff programs I use in windows namely J2 Messenger. When I executed the install file with Wine it returned an error that I needed IE5.5 or better. I guess it just didn't see what I had. What's interesting is that J2 Messenger needs it at all. Looks like it might be making some specific calls to some of explorer's functions.:-k

Scunizi

March 23rd, 2006, 04:43 AM

I've discovered a couple of programs that seem to suggest doing what I'd like. One, ImageMagick, is in Synaptic. After referancing "The Unofficial TIFF Home Page" (http://home.earthlink.net/~ritter/tiff/) I also came up with PythonMagick, an API for ImageMagick. Unfortunatly it looks like I'll have to compile it since it's in a tar.gz compressed format without an install script. Just one more thing I haven't tackled yet in my steep learning curve. ](*,)

graigsmith

March 26th, 2006, 06:39 AM

ok, well, i would like eye of gnome. and i used to like gthumb.

in the ubuntu version before breezy, you used to be able to use gthumb to doubleclick an image and it would let you page up and down through all the images in the folder. now after you double click the image in the nautilus folder view, it opens the folder view of gthumb (which is pointless) why do we need 2 folder views? its extra gui stuff we dont need.

ideally for me, there would be NO image editing functions in the viewing application. no folder view mode either, cause thats what nautilus is for.

eye of gnome just needs a page up and page down, that way you can view the whole folder of images without opening every single image from nautilus.

Fugido

March 29th, 2006, 09:15 PM

Ah,maybe this is not the place to ask forhelp, but i think my issue is so trivial that it doesn't even deserves its own thread.

http://i13.photobucket.com/albums/a287/destra5/snap.jpg

I was using gthumb, and i think i screwed the thumbs somehow. It's only in my current user, root doesn't have this problem. There is no detailed manual available in anywhere for gthumb, and i've tried with almost any key combination that came to my mind. To wipe the configurations files didn't solve anything. I'm sorry for my bad english, it's not my primary language. I think i'll try installing that other viewer.

now after you double click the image in the nautilus folder view, it opens the folder view of gthumb (which is pointless) why do we need 2 folder views? its extra gui stuff we dont need. I was thinking exactly the same thing. There is no way to make it start viewing inmediately the image selected?

paul cooke

March 29th, 2006, 09:50 PM

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So, which do you think is better? Should eog be dropped in favor of gThumb?

neither... I use Kuickshow or Gwenview... ;)

Wolki

March 30th, 2006, 06:26 AM

eye of gnome just needs a page up and page down, that way you can view the whole folder of images without opening every single image from nautilus.

Get the Backports version of EoG (or Dapper), since 2.13.2 eog supports going to the next image by pressing the previous/next buttons in the toolbar or <ctrl>+<pgup>/<pgdn>

magnusbb

March 30th, 2006, 09:48 AM

Get the Backports version of EoG (or Dapper), since 2.13.2 eog supports going to the next image by pressing the previous/next buttons in the toolbar or <ctrl>+<pgup>/<pgdn>

Or simply download EoG 2.14 and compile it on Breezy. I have made a deb for it here also:
http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=144563

It is one of those 2.14 applications that actually works well on Breezy's 2.12 too (EoG and Deskbar).

BoyOfDestiny

March 30th, 2006, 03:13 PM

Hmm, to be honest I can't decide. I like the gthumb shortcut keys better, but eye of gnome has one feature that comes in handy for "crappy" manga scans. I can, in full screen, make the image scale to my screen (as in, the picture is small, but will fill up the whole screen). For some reason (at least on dapper) gthumb only allows that when not full screen...

ShanghaiTeej

March 30th, 2006, 07:45 PM

All though I am primarilly a gnome user, I find myself using gwenview a lot. It's really fast and contains all the options I need. And on my computer, it actually processes thumbnails faster than GQview.

ercork

April 2nd, 2006, 01:55 AM

bvc

April 2nd, 2006, 02:52 AM

gqview

eog has always been a waste, and gthumb is a slow hog

Imrahil

April 6th, 2006, 04:54 PM

Just to throw in my 48 cents. EOG crashes frequently on latest dapper. Plus it just sucks!

henriquemaia

April 6th, 2006, 05:16 PM

zubrug

April 6th, 2006, 05:48 PM

gthumb

rdwtux

May 3rd, 2006, 12:48 AM

f-spot is where it's at. The question is kinda wacky though. If I want to view 1 picture, i'll use EOG. but if I want to see my collection it's either gThumb or F-Spot and F-spot always wins hands down. So F-Spot for photo collections, EOG for single-view pics.

PenguinInside

February 14th, 2010, 06:55 PM

I can't believe how horrible eog is. Just simply browsing from picture to picture quickly results in 48% CPU usage for eog.

Meanwhile, with gThumb, you can hit PageDown in quick succession to go from picture to picture quickly and smoothly with a few percent CPU usage.

redmage85

March 23rd, 2010, 11:16 AM

gthumb, because it fully supports gif sequences (imho the best combo would be gqview + gthumb, with the latter as the default viewer for gifs)

chris4585

March 23rd, 2010, 12:20 PM

neither, gpicview

samjh

March 23rd, 2010, 02:02 PM

I chose gThumb from the choices, but Mirage is my preferred image viewer.

koleoptero

March 23rd, 2010, 04:47 PM

The new beta gThumb has a much better image viewer than eog while it has all the simplicity of it. Plus you can hit a button and get quick-edit tools on the spot. Also it's image organizer is much better than the old one. I have ditched eog for gthumb and every time I use it I love it more. Batch tools are also a win.

Also for the people that talk about the filmstrip thing, eog has it, gthumb doesn't. And I don't see a speed difference between eog and gthumb on my 5yo laptop, I don't think there is one. If you want speed use feh :P

EDIT: I just notice the difference in dates.... jeez...