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Sporkman
April 19th, 2010, 07:43 PM
http://gizmodo.com/5520164/this-is-apples-next-iphone

swoll1980
April 19th, 2010, 07:47 PM
http://gizmodo.com/5520164/this-is-apples-next-iphone

I don't believe this story.

zekopeko
April 19th, 2010, 07:47 PM
http://gizmodo.com/5520164/this-is-apples-next-iphone

You mean stolen[1].

[1] http://daringfireball.net/linked/2010/04/19/gizmodo-rumors

Tristam Green
April 19th, 2010, 07:51 PM
oh noes.

Think Apple will redesign the iPhone 4G just because their prototype was stolen? Because I don't.

I just hope no Foxconn employees commit suicide over this. They've had enough negative press lately.

zekopeko
April 19th, 2010, 07:56 PM
oh noes.

Think Apple will redesign the iPhone 4G just because their prototype was stolen? Because I don't.

I just hope no Foxconn employees commit suicide over this. They've had enough negative press lately.

I doubt Foxconn has anything to do with this. It appears to me that it was a model used for field testing by Apple's QA division.

swoll1980
April 19th, 2010, 07:57 PM
You mean stolen[1].

[1] http://daringfireball.net/linked/2010/04/19/gizmodo-rumors

That makes alot more sense. I couldn't imagine someone who just happens to know what it is, and how valuable it is, stumbling across it at a bar, and even if they did, they still had an obligation to turn it into authorities. If I find a phone on the floor, it doesn't give me the right to sell it to someone, unless all efforts to find the owner were exhausted.

zekopeko
April 19th, 2010, 08:04 PM
That makes alot more sense. I couldn't imagine someone who just happens to know what it is, and how valuable it is, stumbling across it at a bar, and even if they did, they still had an obligation to turn it into authorities. If I find a phone on the floor, it doesn't give me the right to sell it to someone, unless all efforts to find the owner were exhausted.

IANAL but if you find something that was obviously lost and not abandoned (e.g. a phone in a bar) then you have to give it to the authorities so the owner can find it (s/he will most likely go report it to the police station so great chance it can be returned on the spot).

Only after a set period of time has passed and the owner made no effort to report or look for the lost item you can claim the found thing for yourself. At least that is/was a deal in my country a couple of years ago.

EDIT: If I was Apple legal I would prosecute Gizmodo as an accessory to the crime and demand names of those who "found" the device so they can be sued for theft since apparently money exchanged hands between Gizmodo and those who found it.

swoll1980
April 19th, 2010, 08:13 PM
IANAL but if you find something that was obviously lost and not abandoned (e.g. a phone in a bar) then you have to give it to the authorities so the owner can find it (s/he will most likely go report it to the police station so great chance it can be returned on the spot).

Only after a set period of time has passed and the owner made no effort to report or look for the lost item you can claim the found thing for yourself. At least that is/was a deal in my country a couple of years ago.

EDIT: If I was Apple legal I would prosecute Gizmodo as an accessory to the crime and demand names of those who "found" the device so they can be sued for theft since apparently money exchanged hands between Gizmodo and those who found it.

They can definitely make a case for receiving stolen property, and depending on the value of the phone it could be a felony. I'm sure Apple will be leaning hard on the DA to pursue this, and even if they don't, Apple could hire a prosecutor to handle this matter themselves.

Endomancer
April 21st, 2010, 12:10 PM
To me this article screams marketing propaganda

In his letter to Sewell, Lam acknowledges that Gizmodo bought the device. However, it's unknown how much Gizmodo's parent company paid for it. Other unknowns: the identity of the person who found it (if it indeed was lost and not stolen as some have suggested), exactly how the device landed in Gizmodo's lap, and how rival blog Engadget scooped Gizmodo on its own scoop by posting photos and details before Gizmodo did?
seems a bit strange to me that Gizmodo had the prototype but Engadget got the story out 1st

chucky chuckaluck
April 21st, 2010, 12:16 PM
what a giant pile of steamer.

ssj6akshat
April 21st, 2010, 12:19 PM
This didn't get leaked.Gizmodo paid $5000 for it.

Berk
April 21st, 2010, 12:34 PM
Looks like free advertising for Apple to me.

jrothwell97
April 21st, 2010, 01:02 PM
Looks like free advertising for Apple to me.

from Urban Dictionary: (http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=Protohype&defid=4898823)


protohype n. The process of leaking a prototype device to generate buzz about a product you don't quite yet have ready for market to a friendly tech website who will promote the gizmo well before it's ready to go.

Gizmodo's finding of that Apple iPhone 4G months before it's released is clearly a case of protohype.

Sporkman
April 21st, 2010, 01:29 PM
from Urban Dictionary: (http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=Protohype&defid=4898823)

Nice! 8)

Zerocool Djx
April 21st, 2010, 01:32 PM
I say reverse engineer the thing and load flash into it and release to the open market!

muahahaha!

amitabhishek
April 21st, 2010, 01:38 PM
from Urban Dictionary: (http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=Protohype&defid=4898823)

Agreed!

Excerpts from an article about the birth of an iPhone!


Through it all, Jobs maintained the highest level of secrecy. Internally, the project was known as P2, short for Purple 2 (the abandoned iPod phone was called Purple 1). Teams were split up and scattered across Apple's Cupertino, California, campus. Whenever Apple executives traveled to Cingular, they registered as employees of Infineon, the company Apple was using to make the phone's transmitter. Even the iPhone's hardware and software teams were kept apart: Hardware engineers worked on circuitry that was loaded with fake software, while software engineers worked off circuit boards sitting in wooden boxes. By January 2007, when Jobs announced the iPhone at Macworld, only 30 or so of the most senior people on the project had seen it.

http://www.wired.com/gadgets/wireless/magazine/16-02/ff_iphone?currentPage=4

For a company that gives so much importance to secrecy its very unlikely that one of its employees lives the phone in the toilet of a bar while taking leak and it changes hands before reaching Gizmodo. Give me a f*kin break!!!!

LMP900
April 21st, 2010, 05:09 PM
Gizmodo has turned into a tabloid. Their condescending attitude towards the engineer and their obsession with their worthless stolen toy has forced me to delete them from my bookmarks.

cprofitt
April 21st, 2010, 05:22 PM
Did you guys read about the lost, err... stolen, Microsoft prototype?

No.

I guess this is Apple marketing then.

zekopeko
April 21st, 2010, 05:38 PM
Gizmodo has turned into a tabloid. Their condescending attitude towards the engineer and their obsession with their worthless stolen toy has forced me to delete them from my bookmarks.

Not to mention they knowingly bought a stolen device.

zekopeko
April 21st, 2010, 05:39 PM
Did you guys read about the lost, err... stolen, Microsoft prototype?

No.

I guess this is Apple marketing then.

Do you have any, ANY shred of proof that this is a marketing stunt? Whats that? No? Go figure.

Viva
April 21st, 2010, 05:55 PM
It is fair to assume that at least a couple of innocent employees will be beaten up over this.

jrothwell97
April 21st, 2010, 06:17 PM
Personally speaking, although (as the UD definition will attest) it's entertaining to hypothesise about conspiracy theories, it's almost certain that it was accidental.

It's happened before (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iwsn27J_tlo), albeit without the receiving-of-stolen-goods part (this time a webmaster's faux pas offering up the Power Mac G5's specifications before it had even been announced.)

Rasa1111
April 21st, 2010, 06:36 PM
niice!!

ipad is lame.. but this looks sweet! lol
i love how some people seemingly get bent over the whole thing. "they(apple) could/should sue them!).. seriously? :lol: doh.

ive always "kinda wanted" an iphone,
now i really want one. lol
good stuff, thanks.

zekopeko
April 21st, 2010, 07:33 PM
It is fair to assume that at least a couple of innocent employees will be beaten up over this.

From Gizmodo's writing it appears that the fellow that lost the iPhone is still working at Apple. He probably got a mouthful though.

zekopeko
April 21st, 2010, 07:37 PM
niice!!

ipad is lame.. but this looks sweet! lol
i love how some people seemingly get bent over the whole thing. "they(apple) could/should sue them!).. seriously? :lol: doh.

Well considering they (Gizmodo) bought a stolen iPhone and then profited commercially from that I don't see why not. The worst part is that they are all trying to cover their actions with explanations such as (paraphrasing here) "oh we didn't know who the owner is". And yet they paid some 5000$ for it (according to a poster in this thread). You don't shell out that amount of cash for "it MIGHT be next gen iphone".

oobuntoo
April 21st, 2010, 08:11 PM
This whole thing, IMHO, is a public stunt by both Apple and Gizmodo. There are a galore of Android phones coming out this summer (Windows 7 phones are also around corner too) and Apple wants people to know that their next cell phone is coming too. They cannot afford to be secretive this time. As you know, getting a new, high-end phone at affordable price means a two-year contract. It would be hard to bring back people who are already under new contract with non-Apple phone, like Sprint's up-coming HTC EVO 4G. By revealing their next iPhone, Apple could convince some people to wait.

Another thing that convince me that this is a stunt, is the way Apple asked, very nicely, for the return of the phone. When was the last time that happened? Gizmodo, in return, gracefully comply even though they claimed to have paid 5 grands for it. The whole thing was resolved too easy.

The stunt seems to be working out well for Apple. Check out the link below if you have doubt.

http://tv.gawker.com/5520655/complete-coverage-of-gizmodos-iphone-story-on-tv

What's in it for gizmodo.com you ask? Exposure and traffic to their site, which mean more money from ads.

gnupipe
April 21st, 2010, 10:08 PM
I sold my iPhone 3G to my little brother 8-)

zekopeko
April 21st, 2010, 10:42 PM
I sold my iPhone 3G to my little brother 8-)

How brotherly of you.