Where is the $100 ARM netbook I was promised?

[Warpnow]

Seriously. Been hearing they were around the corner for two years now...for christ's sake I want it now!!!!

Anyone with me?

[JDShu]

I never heard of $100 ARM netbooks... the $200 ones are supposed to come out sometime in the 4th quarter I think...

[jrusso2]

I have been wondering the same thing.

[kpholmes]

ya im waiting for them too

[PhoenixMaster00]

The only one i can recall is that Lenovo Skylight pushed to June now and even thats no where near $100!. Werent there prototype shown over a year ago though :/. I think the problem is people seem to have gone tablet atm so i guess we wont be seeing many :(

I had been wishing to use one for uni but seems like it wont happen

[blueshiftoverwatch]

What is the power consumption of ARM vs IA-32 and x64 CPU's?

[p_quarles]

[citation needed]

[jrusso2]

http://www.linuxfordevices.com/c/a/News/Science-and-Technology-Co-Ltd-Wabook/

This is just one of them there were many more.

[p_quarles]

http://www.linuxfordevices.com/c/a/News/Science-and-Technology-Co-Ltd-Wabook/

This is just one of them there were many more.

With all due respect, one dubious article (from four days ago) promising a tremendously underpowered netbook for US$100 and nowhere to actually buy it (even if anyone wanted it) does not support the position that "they've been promising us this for years."

Who promised this $100 ARM netbook? That's what I'm wondering.

[PhilGil]

http://cgi.ebay.com/NEW-7-Mini-Netbook-Laptop-Notebook-WIFI-Windows-2GB-HD_W0QQitemZ170414804289QQcmdZViewItemQQptZLaptops _Nov05?hash=item27ad838d41

Unfortunately, all the ones I've seen run an embedded version of Win CE.

[jrusso2]

With all due respect, one dubious article (from four days ago) promising a tremendously underpowered netbook for US$100 and nowhere to actually buy it (even if anyone wanted it) does not support the position that "they've been promising us this for years."

Who promised this $100 ARM netbook? That's what I'm wondering.

Do a search I found at least six of them.

[chappajar]

Seriously. Been hearing they were around the corner for two years now...for christ's sake I want it now!!!!

Anyone with me?

I was promised $200 netbooks instead, but yeah, where are they?


http://cgi.ebay.com/NEW-7-Mini-Netbook-Laptop-Notebook-WIFI-Windows-2GB-HD_W0QQitemZ170414804289QQcmdZViewItemQQptZLaptops _Nov05?hash=item27ad838d41

Unfortunately, all the ones I've seen run an embedded version of Win CE.

Most ARM netbooks available at the moment are horribly underpowered (ie equivalent to a calculator, rather than at least a top end smartphone) There has been a lot of talk from OEMs, but not much action.
See all these promised netbooks:
http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1377293

I think the Mobinova Beam is the most likely one of these to be out first, but no idea what the price will be, and I think Android is embedded in ROM, which will be a pain for changing to other OSs :(


What is the power consumption of ARM vs IA-32 and x64 CPU's?

ARM can't match current intel Atom chips for raw power (they are a year or two behind in terms of pure performance) but what they do try to be good at, and what they do extremely well is have a great performance to watts drawn ratio.
Their performance is lower than intel, but their energy consumption is much lower than intel.

We are talking about a range of different chips with a range of settings in a range of situations so there's no easy way to sum it up, but here is a benchmarking article that shows an Intel Atom N450 drawing 4 times the power of an ARM Cortex A8 for just a 30% performance increase.
http://iltsarnews.blogspot.com/2010/04/arm-vs-x86-low-power-vs-performance.html
I think that's a reasonable representation of ARM vs x86.

Note that this is not the latest or best ARM chip available (I have no idea whether or not the Atom is the latest and greatest available...?) and the ARM chip was also not using power saving features that would lower the watts drawn even further.

[mkendall]

Where is the $100 ARM netbook I was promised?
In the glovebox of your flying car.

[cguy]

In the glovebox of your flying car.

:lolflag:Hilarious!

Is that car fully automatic or mind controlled? :D

[chris200x9]

I just hope they are out in June so I can get one right away after my summer job

[Doctor Mike]

Ah, reminds me of my first computer. 2KB RAM. Television connection. Connection for cassette. Book with program samples. Had to program yourself. Cost $99.99 and was cool...
Can't remember the name, but I think the language was something similar to basic. I was the only person in my neighborhood with a computer. I planned to take over the world. If it hadn't been for Bill G. (W) <not sure which one... I would have...:(

[juancarlospaco]

$100 per Month ARM netbooks.

[Warpnow]

Look at ARMs press releases about the Cortex A9 to see what I'm talking about...

Yeah, the A9 is here, but its being bundled into things like the snapdragon, I mean...I would love to just buy a motherboard with an a9 in it for building my own system, but it will likely be like all other ARM cpus, where the only way to get them affordably is to purchase thousands of them, otherwise they only sell development boards at $200 a pop for just the board and cpu.

[madjr]

get an $150 tablet instead, at least those are real, cheap and some even come with some type of linux, ubuntu or android

the sub $100 netbooks might only be available with a contract with some isp, mobile carrier and a 3g plan

[kllado]

The only one I know that is worth of something (fully operating os, including ubuntu) and of satisfactory performance you can find in www.alwaysinnovating.com.

[sydbat]

Is that car fully automatic or mind controlled? :DYes.

[chappajar]

The only one I know that is worth of something (fully operating os, including ubuntu) and of satisfactory performance you can find in www.alwaysinnovating.com (http://www.alwaysinnovating.com).

A bit underpowered and WAY overpriced.

[madjr]

A bit underpowered and WAY overpriced.

compared to what, an ipad?

anything better and cheaper?

[chappajar]

compared to what, an ipad?

anything better and cheaper?

No, compared to netbooks. A $319 Eee 1005 for example:
http://www.amazon.com/dp/B00322PYZE?tag=newcelpho-20&camp=211189&creative=373489&linkCode=as1&creativeASIN=B00322PYZE&adid=12HJ7F56XEZG0TWYVCWE&&link_code=as3

A much better deal than a $399 Touchbook. (or an iPad ;) )

Once you take out the added expense of Intel over ARM, and W7, you should be able to get somewhere close to $250 for an equivalent ARM netbook.

[Warpnow]

No, compared to netbooks. A $319 Eee 1005 for example:
http://www.amazon.com/dp/B00322PYZE?tag=newcelpho-20&camp=211189&creative=373489&linkCode=as1&creativeASIN=B00322PYZE&adid=12HJ7F56XEZG0TWYVCWE&&link_code=as3

A much better deal than a $399 Touchbook. (or an iPad ;) )

Once you take out the added expense of Intel over ARM, and W7, you should be able to get somewhere close to $250 for an equivalent ARM netbook.

Considering $250 was the price of the AA1, I think they can do better than $250.

[chappajar]

Considering $250 was the price of the AA1, I think they can do better than $250.

I hope so too ;)

[benmoran]

If the Always Innovating Touchbook was just a netbook and not a tablet/hybrid thing, it would be perfect. It would probably be half the thickness and half the price too. Thats what I really want.

Not everyone wants a tablet. The sole purpose of an arm netbook for me is something lightweight that I can use all day to take notes, without bringing a charger.

[Warpnow]

I am shocked, shocked, some chinese company hasn't produced a cheap-as-**** arm netbook using something other than the nasty 400mhz one in the razorbook.

Course, razorbook and its clones ARE under $100...maybe that's what I was promised...

[blueshiftoverwatch]

I am shocked, shocked, some chinese company hasn't produced a cheap-as-**** arm netbook using something other than the nasty 400mhz one in the razorbook.
Only 400MHz!? My GP2X Wiz (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/GP2X_Wiz)'s ARM9 processor runs stock 533MHz. Which is pretty good considering it's a handheld gaming system. But not for a real computer. Of course, I can safely overclock my Wiz's CPU to 800MHz and some people have said they've gotten it up higher. So, the 400MHz chip in the Razorback can probably be safely OC'd to maybe 700MHz. But still, it's pretty bad that my handheld has a better CPU than a netbook.

Does anyone know if ARM will be coming out with multicore chips?

[chappajar]

Only 400MHz!? My GP2X Wiz (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/GP2X_Wiz)'s ARM9 processor runs stock 533MHz. Which is pretty good considering it's a handheld gaming system. But not for a real computer. Of course, I can safely overclock my Wiz's CPU to 800MHz and some people have said they've gotten it up higher. So, the 400MHz chip in the Razorback can probably be safely OC'd to maybe 700MHz. But still, it's pretty bad that my handheld has a better CPU than a netbook.

Does anyone know if ARM will be coming out with multicore chips?

Cortex A9 is available multicore, I think A8 too.