Oscar wining video editor goes open source

[sudoer541]

thats right (http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2010/04/oscar-winning-video-editor-goes-open.html) folks!!!!!

[swoll1980]

thats right (http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2010/04/oscar-winning-video-editor-goes-open.html) folks!!!!!

This is great news!

[ibuclaw]

This is great news!

Agreed - a quality video editor is just what Open Source needs.

[zekopeko]

This is great news!

Lets just wait and see what licence they will use.

[EarthMind]

Awesome news indeed!

[Random_Dude]

Nice.\\:D/

Does this mean that it'll be compatible with Ubuntu?

[madhi19]

Nice.\\:D/

Does this mean that it'll be compatible with Ubuntu?

Wrong question! Does it mean we get a Linux version?

[swoll1980]

Wrong question! Does it mean we get a Linux version?

They can port it to Linux easily if it's open sourced. Somebody will port it.

[forrestcupp]

They can port it to Linux easily if it's open sourced. Somebody will port it.

Porting is not necessarily easy. I don't know anything about Lightworks, but if something is completely written in WinAPI, it's not going to be a quick port.

I'm not saying it won't happen; it'll just take a lot of time and people who care to donate that much time.

Besides, it's not really clear what they're doing. Lightworks includes some hardware based stuff. Softworks is their completely software implementation.

[JDShu]

holy....

Lets see how many developers get on board first though.

[Dragonbite]

This may be a great validater for Open Source in that they are even considering it!

Who knows? Maybe other proprietary companies will start open sourcing their products!

At the very least, with Ubuntu including a video editor in 10.04 (if I remember correctly), given some time with this open sourced if it is ported to Linux and Ubuntu *it* could become the default and counter the influence of iMove and other proprietary products!

But that's waaay down the road, for now I hope they have a realistic view and get some positive benefit from the OS community!

[swoll1980]

Porting is not necessarily easy. I don't know anything about Lightworks, but if something is completely written in WinAPI, it's not going to be a quick port.

True enough. They could start with a Wine port. I never understood what the problem with using Wine was. True many apps don't work, and many that do act funny, but when you have an app that works seamlessly in Wine, I can't see any disadvantage in it over a native port.

[TheNerdAL]

This is awesome!! Thanks for the news man!

[sudoer541]

Now there is a real competition between openshot and light-thingy

[madjr]

Porting is not necessarily easy. I don't know anything about Lightworks, but if something is completely written in WinAPI, it's not going to be a quick port.

I'm not saying it won't happen; it'll just take a lot of time and people who care to donate that much time.

Besides, it's not really clear what they're doing. Lightworks includes some hardware based stuff. Softworks is their completely software implementation.

mono?

[zekopeko]

mono?

I doubt that the editor is written in a Mono supported language. It's probably C++ mixed with other languages. Cross-platform-ness depends on how the software was written. You can write a Java app that runs only on Windows because you use a lot of Windows-only APIs.

[zekopeko]

True enough. They could start with a Wine port. I never understood what the problem with using Wine was. True many apps don't work, and many that do act funny, but when you have an app that works seamlessly in Wine, I can't see any disadvantage in it over a native port.

There is actually winelib which allows Win devs to quickly port apps to Wine.

[aklo]

Too bad i'm not into video editing.

I'll be great news if adobe photoshop goes open source

[Frak]

They can port it to Linux easily if it's open sourced. Somebody will port it.
Let's say that it was programmed using many different languages and tied into the WinAPI heavily. From that point, I would say it would take at least 7 years to reach halfway usable status on Linux. Not easy at all.

[forrestcupp]

This may be a great validater for Open Source in that they are even considering it!

Who knows? Maybe other proprietary companies will start open sourcing their products!

We can hope, but you have to look at this case in its context (of course mixed with a little speculation). The company got bought out by a company that probably doesn't want to keep developing the product, but they still want to be able to make money with it. So they are open sourcing the editor so everyone else can develop it for them and keep it updated. But their intent is to still sell all of the plugins that make the editor functional (not speculation). So I wonder how functional the bare bones open source editor will be. Of course the open source devs can always make their own free plugins, but will they have the expertise and R&D resources that EditShare can put into it? My experience is that free plugins are usually not as good as commercial ones.

But in that context, this isn't a great forerunner of other already established companies going open source.

[medic2000]

Too bad i'm not into video editing.

I'll be great news if adobe photoshop goes open source

Puhahaha Adobe and open source? Dont make me laugh. :D

[Swagman]

Anyone else misread that as LightWave ? (http://www.newtek.com/lightwave)

I got all kind of quivery excited then !!

[sydbat]

I find it interesting that there is an assumption this product is Windows-based. I could find no indication of that on their site.

EDIT - It actually states in their press release (http://www.editshare.com/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=164&Itemid=160) that it is "cross-platform". I take this to mean Windows, Linux, Unix, OSX, what-have-you...

[dragos240]

I didn't know software can win oscars.

[undecim]

I find it interesting that there is an assumption this product is Windows-based. I could find no indication of that on their site.

Same.

I kind of figured it was already a Linux application, seeing as Linux is used a lot in Hollywood to make movies.

I wonder what license they will release it under. I couldn't find anything about it.

[sydbat]

Same.

I kind of figured it was already a Linux application, seeing as Linux is used a lot in Hollywood to make movies.

I wonder what license they will release it under. I couldn't find anything about it.I updated my post with a link to the press release.

[swoll1980]

I find it interesting that there is an assumption this product is Windows-based. I could find no indication of that on their site.

EDIT - It actually states in their press release (http://www.editshare.com/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=164&Itemid=160) that it is "cross-platform". I take this to mean Windows, Linux, Unix, OSX, what-have-you...


Same.

I kind of figured it was already a Linux application, seeing as Linux is used a lot in Hollywood to make movies.

I wonder what license they will release it under. I couldn't find anything about it.

I investigated this before I posted. It's Windows based. I can't find the link now, but if I'm wrong it's even better news.

[undecim]

I investigated this before I posted. It's Windows based. I can't find the link now, but if I'm wrong it's even better news.

You might be right. The press release refers to EditShare (the company) as "the technology leader in cross-platform collaborative editing and shared media storage"

Nothing about Lightworks being cross-platform. EdiShare acquired Lightworks in August 2009, so maybe they are working to make it cross platform?

[Madspyman]

EditShare's proprietary programs have Linux support, check out the specs for their Flow (http://www.editshare.com/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=42&Itemid=52)


Flow runs on Windows, Mac OS X and Linux providing more workstation options than standard Ingest/Browse solutions.

I doubt they'd open source a Lightworks sans Linux support when they sell programs that have support.

[forrestcupp]

Anyone else misread that as LightWave ? (http://www.newtek.com/lightwave)

I got all kind of quivery excited then !!

Now that would be awesome. I've wanted that since they made The Titanic with it.

[Frak]

Puhahaha Adobe and open source? Dont make me laugh. :D
*with the exception of BlazeDS and the Flex (mxml) compiler, of course. Oh and everything on this (http://opensource.adobe.com/wiki/display/site/Projects) page.

[Dragonbite]

I find it interesting that there is an assumption this product is Windows-based. I could find no indication of that on their site.

EDIT - It actually states in their press release (http://www.editshare.com/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=164&Itemid=160) that it is "cross-platform". I take this to mean Windows, Linux, Unix, OSX, what-have-you...

Saying "cross-platform" doesn't mean the same to everybody as it does to you and I. Microsoft drops the "cross platform" label on a lot of things but they mean that it covers multiple versions of Windows and Mac.

They aren't the only ones to use the term this way either.


*with the exception of BlazeDS and the Flex (mxml) compiler, of course.

Are those Open Source or just available for Linux.

Also, while the source code may be available that doesn't mean people have the right to copy/use it or redistribute, which would make it FREE and Open Source Software (FOSS) instead of just Open Source.

[bowens44]

It's my understanding that it has been available for linux for quite some time.

Since 2000

[Frak]

Are those Open Source or just available for Linux.

Also, while the source code may be available that doesn't mean people have the right to copy/use it or redistribute, which would make it FREE and Open Source Software (FOSS) instead of just Open Source.

(tl;dr I didn't research it myself)

I find the Mozilla Public License to be a pretty good Open Source license that doesn't impose unnecessary restrictions like the GPL does. (http://www.mozilla.org/MPL/MPL-1.1.html)

[forrestcupp]

I find the Mozilla Public License to be a pretty good Open Source license that doesn't impose unnecessary restrictions like the GPL does. (http://www.mozilla.org/MPL/MPL-1.1.html)

Let's start a license war. I like the zlib/png license. :)

[Frak]

Let's start a license war. I like the zlib/png license. :)
New BSD

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[Tibuda]

WTFPL FTW (http://sam.zoy.org/wtfpl/)

[WinterMadness]

huge news

[NCLI]

I think they should go with the WXPEULA (http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/eula/home.mspx)!!

Oh, wait...

[SKLP]

new bsd

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mit!

[doas777]

y'all are forgetting the perfect license: the Me license.
it grants me all rights and confers them exclusively to me. if you want to use it, all you have to do is become me (but not via body snatching, telephthic transference, possession, or cloning; it's in the fine print).