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Doctor Mike
April 1st, 2010, 09:25 PM
It's a wonder why Ubuntu has not just taken control of the bios. On PC's with known configuration. (uuid). The boot process could become elemental. No more MBR, at least not in it current understanding... Perhaps total control of both the boot process and system hardware identification would be in order... And perhaps an Ubuntu flag waving in the ether breeze... While we all wonder about the cooperation of the systems.

Just have to wonder who has already done something similar?

GepettoBR
April 1st, 2010, 09:27 PM
You look like the kind of person who might enjoy using Suicide Linux (http://qntm.org/suicide).

Doctor Mike
April 1st, 2010, 09:33 PM
You look like the kind of person who might enjoy using Suicide Linux (http://qntm.org/suicide).
I don't like father beens. Thank you.

Dayofswords
April 1st, 2010, 09:35 PM
You look like the kind of person who might enjoy using Suicide Linux (http://qntm.org/suicide).


I have invented Suicide Linux. Any time - any time - you type any remotely incorrect command, the interpreter creatively resolves it into "rm -rf /" and wipes your hard drive.
i cant stop laughing!

Eisenwinter
April 1st, 2010, 09:43 PM
You look like the kind of person who might enjoy using Suicide Linux (http://qntm.org/suicide).
That is the most awesome thing in the history of computers.

Doctor Mike
April 1st, 2010, 09:47 PM
What's the date today?

Dayofswords
April 1st, 2010, 09:51 PM
why it's july 4 1776

why you ask, sir?

pricetech
April 1st, 2010, 10:20 PM
THE YEAR !!! What's the YEAR ?!?!?!

I gotta try that some time.

Doctor Mike
April 1st, 2010, 10:21 PM
why it's july 4 1776?

why you ask, sir?I guess I was just confused by the ether floating around the room..., perhaps I should be corrected sir.

Sylslay
April 1st, 2010, 10:37 PM
Becouse BIOS store Real time and date,
but linux ,can do aswell.

Phrea
April 1st, 2010, 10:40 PM
Sadly, suicide linux is only theoretical.
Somebody should do it, just for fun !

Doctor Mike
April 1st, 2010, 10:46 PM
Sadly, suicide linux is only theoretical.
Somebody should do it, just for fun !It's not theoretical, It's a humbling experience when your friends kill your system..., but that's between friends. And between you and your desire to adventure. Can't say what these guy are talking about for sure, but that's what it was for real and sure.

mcduck
April 1st, 2010, 10:54 PM
It's a wonder why Ubuntu has not just taken control of the bios. On PC's with known configuration. (uuid). The boot process could become elemental. No more MBR, at least not in it current understanding... Perhaps total control of both the boot process and system hardware identification would be in order... And perhaps an Ubuntu flag waving in the ether breeze... While we all wonder about the cooperation of the systems.

Just have to wonder who has already done something similar?

Creating a BIOS really isn't that simple of a task, and actually getting it into people's computers is at lest equally hard thing to do.

Anyway, there is a project that is working on creating an open-source BIOS.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Coreboot

That being said, it sure wouldn't make much sense for Canonical to use resources on building their own BIOS alternative. That kind of stuff really is beyond what a Linux distribution does. Besides, other people are already working on it and if it some day becomes a viable option on consumer hardware I'm sure you'll be able to flash it from Ubuntu just as easily as from any other operating system... (BIOS really isn't something that you could even install while you install the operating system. Not that there really would be a reason to, in most cases. So I doubt there'll ever be the day when Ubuntu installer overwrites your BIOS with some custom code..)

edit: I like the idea about Suicide Linux, though.. Perhaps I'll put something like that together on one of my systems.. Or perhaps I won't since I feel stupid enough if the command I try to run fails because of a typo, I don't think I need to be punished by wiping the hard drive just because of that... Perhaps a humorous insult as error message wold be enough (something like the insults option in "sudo", but with a bit less lame insults that what "sudo" does..)

Doctor Mike
April 1st, 2010, 11:12 PM
Creating a BIOS really isn't that simple of a task, and actually getting it into people's computers is at lest equally hard thing to do.

Anyway, there is a project that is working on creating an open-source BIOS.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Coreboot

That being said, it sure wouldn't make much sense for Canonical to use resources on building their own BIOS alternative. That kind of stuff really is beyond what a Linux distribution does. Besides, other people are already working on it and if it some day becomes a viable option I'm sure you'll be able to flash it from Ubuntu just as well as from any other operating system...And the (idea) program to create an open source bios is older than sin. and this was a joke (for real), but if a very large group of people would support it I would as well (not). There are so many architectures to consider is seems implausible. To say the least, and far more than when it was first proposed (about a billion years ago).