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MisfitI38
March 20th, 2010, 09:14 PM
Retro-styled with onboard wifi, choice of colors, DVD burner and ability to use DVI output for TV. A wide choice of operating systems, including Ubuntu, AmigaOS, ChromeOS, Windows, etc.

http://www.commodoreusa.net/

Must.....get...hands....on...

Keith1212
March 20th, 2010, 09:25 PM
Looks neat, but if something went wrong it would prolly for sure be something you would have to send back to get replaced.

_h_
March 20th, 2010, 09:26 PM
Neato, but poorly placed touchpad. :(

Post Monkeh
March 20th, 2010, 09:28 PM
looks pretty good but i can't see any prices anyewhere.

MaxIBoy
March 20th, 2010, 09:36 PM
Looks like a standard x86 PC in its technical details.

Just from looking at the pictures, it also seems to be too thick to type comfortably. The keyboard looks terrible and laptop-ish. Like _h_ pointed out, the touchpad seems badly placed as well. So I would end up adding an external keyboard and mouse anyway before I could use it seriously. So really, what's the point of getting one of these? I might be pleasantly surprised, but I don't think I'd put up the money to find out!

Also, what were they thinking when they tilted the optical drive? I'll bet CDs don't last long in that thing!

_h_
March 20th, 2010, 09:42 PM
Like _h_ pointed out, the touchpad seems badly placed as well.

On my laptop, the palm of my left hand is part of the way under the space bar, so in essence my palm would be all up on the new Commodore placement resulting in cursor movement and clicks without my intentional doing.

lisati
March 20th, 2010, 09:45 PM
Time to resurrect the Commodore 128s I have in a spare room upstairs?

Swagman
March 20th, 2010, 09:55 PM
The AmigaOs specified can only be UAE NOT Os4 which is PPC only

I really don't think there is any point of these devices anymore.

I suppose you could attach it to a humongous 50" 1080p telly but then you can do that with tiny mediacentres anyway and have the keyboard on your lap.

Wonder what the price will be ?

pookiebear
March 20th, 2010, 11:42 PM
"Operating System
System ships with latest version of Ubuntu, including free OS updates and 100's of productivity software titles.
Apple OSX can be customer installed using unmodified dvd install disk (requires additional optional hardware)."


umm apple can be installed from real dvd.... make iphone apps anyone?

-grubby
March 21st, 2010, 12:02 AM
To be honest the fact that it claims to run OS X is kind of suspicious. However, it's more suspicious that they've practically copied Apple's advertising word for word in some places.

Just look at this:

http://www.commodoreusa.net/gallery.html

Compared to this:

http://www.apple.com/macmini/design.html

swoll1980
March 21st, 2010, 12:20 AM
This (http://www.a-eon.com/6.html)is the one real Commodore fans are waiting for.

handy
March 21st, 2010, 12:47 AM
I like the space efficiency of the design, it would suit me & my office very well.

I bet it's a whole lot cheaper than an iMac. (Which I use due to space limitations.)

Like Apple it uses EFI. Another job for rEFIt?

Shame it isn't using better GPU, it would have been nice if it had an R700 series ATi GPU in it. Though that would bring up the power consumption.

Hopefully they will get around to offering a better GPU in the future.

How do you run the current Amiga software on it, as it uses Intel CPU & AmigaOS 4 is written for PPC?

Is there a rewrite of the AmigaOS taking place so it will run on Intel CPUs? That would be nice. :D

handy
March 21st, 2010, 01:12 AM
I just sent support@commodoreUSA.net the following email:

Hi,

I am an old Amigan, & I love much of the design of your new Commodore.

As you would have seen from the emails title my main question is how can you run AmigaOS on an Intel CPU based system?

Is there a rewrite of AmigaOS going on that will take it from PPC to x86, or is there another way to run AmigaOS on Intel?

There are quite a number of people on forums that I attend who would be VERY interested in the answers to this.

Also, hopefully you will be marketing a machine in the future that will provide a superior GPU, preferably ATi, as their open-source drivers are really starting to get it together, & will be great this year.

Thank you for your time.

Regards,

takisan
March 21st, 2010, 01:15 AM
SO AWESOME!!!! If only it had the Commendore BASIC loaded in RAM as a backup OS.

dragos240
March 21st, 2010, 01:21 AM
The resolution on the site is awful! All the images are pixelated, they have linux and ubuntu as separate operating system, the flash on the front seems cheaply made (some of the operating systems have no capital leters, same effect for transition, pictures that could easily be copied from google images.). I wouldn't buy the thing myself.

dragos240
March 21st, 2010, 01:24 AM
Oh, and look at this:
http://www.commodoreusa.net/os.html
Scroll down to linux
I don't remember operating system being one word, do you? This site doesn't seem legitimate to me.

EDIT: Oh and they call linux an operating system.

handy
March 21st, 2010, 01:31 AM
Time will tell, they have set a date for availability.

Sam
March 21st, 2010, 01:31 AM
It looks nice. But they should have put at least one USB port on the front or on the side.

bpalone
March 21st, 2010, 02:14 AM
You can buy one today from http://www.cybernetman.com/

I bought one of their used ones a while back.

handy
March 21st, 2010, 02:30 AM
:lolflag:

It's starting to look like a scam.

KiwiNZ
March 21st, 2010, 02:45 AM
To be honest the fact that it claims to run OS X is kind of suspicious. However, it's more suspicious that they've practically copied Apple's advertising word for word in some places.

Just look at this:

http://www.commodoreusa.net/gallery.html

Compared to this:

http://www.apple.com/macmini/design.html


That is a law suit waiting to happen and rightly so. Good greif .

haddog
March 21st, 2010, 02:46 AM
Interesting.Would like to play around with one.

Keith1212
March 21st, 2010, 02:50 AM
HAHA thats funny about their ad campaign being identical to the mac. Can't wait to see what happens.

koleoptero
March 21st, 2010, 03:07 AM
Interesting idea, if the keyboard is not as uncomfortable as it looks then it saves a lot of space on a desk.

Swagman
March 21st, 2010, 12:35 PM
People "Towered their A1200's" because they got fed up with 3 plates of spaghetti hanging out the back on their desk.

THIS (http://www.commodore-amiga-retro.com/amiga/a_scuzz_oct02/amiga-fantasyb.jpg)is the image that was being bandied about a couple of years back for a new "All in one" Amiga

RabbitWho
March 21st, 2010, 12:58 PM
Looks neat, but if something went wrong it would prolly for sure be something you would have to send back to get replaced.

Same problem with a laptop, you open it you void the warranty.




To be honest the fact that it claims to run OS X is kind of suspicious. However, it's more suspicious that they've practically copied Apple's advertising word for word in some places.

Just look at this:

http://www.commodoreusa.net/gallery.html

Compared to this:

http://www.apple.com/macmini/design.html

Can you copyright word sequences like that? Plug and play? Surely not, i've heard it everywhere, small simple beautiful... 3 adjectives which truly can disribe what they've made, surely not. Of course it's not a coincidence, but could apple complain?

Anyway the store hasn't even launched yet so it's probably just a interim thing till they get some marketing people on it. I bet the guys who are working on it did all that themselves.

If it is a scam it's a really cool idea!


I think it's a beautiful thing, I love how it looks like something from the 80s, that's all coming back in fashion now, which is really funny because I know a lot o companies that just never bothered updating their image and logos and now it's paying off!


I'd worry about overheating, i bet it has all the same problems a laptop does, if you wanna buy something stationary you want the advantage of never having to worry about it overheating (unless you're a mad gamer or something like that)

I don't think the raised keyboard will be a comfort problem, i've used fan-trays that raise your keyboard to a 40 degree angle and they're comfortable, even now laptop is elevated on two books (to allow air to circulate underneath and keep it cool)

I think it's cool, i hope it's real and it takes off.

kio_http
March 21st, 2010, 01:02 PM
To be honest the fact that it claims to run OS X is kind of suspicious. However, it's more suspicious that they've practically copied Apple's advertising word for word in some places.

Just look at this:

http://www.commodoreusa.net/gallery.html

Compared to this:

http://www.apple.com/macmini/design.html

The page seems to be a fake.

handy
March 21st, 2010, 01:10 PM
The page seems to be a fake.

It is. :(

RabbitWho
March 21st, 2010, 01:18 PM
nooooooooooo :(

sxmaxchine
March 21st, 2010, 01:30 PM
looks really cool but i dont think it would be something i would buy, but it depends on price

TheNessus
March 21st, 2010, 01:42 PM
come on, no serious company would put pixelated ad photos on their website. This is undoubtedly fake.

BudBear
March 21st, 2010, 01:57 PM
seems like a pretty good idea if it can be made cheap. it definitly woudln't be a powerhouse computer nor should it try to be, but there is a market for such a device. its possible its a fake but i don't think so, i'm more inclined to beleive it's a small startup company trying to capitalize on the old Commodore name, even though this new PC is nothing like the old Commodore, except for the all in one idea. personally i like the idea, but would use different guts in it. better GPU and an AMD CPU to keep cost down while increasing performance where most users would notice it.

RabbitWho
March 21st, 2010, 04:17 PM
come on, no serious company would put pixelated ad photos on their website. This is undoubtedly fake.


Like i said the store isn't going up till june, it's likely this is just an interim thing. I really want this to be real.

Naiki Muliaina
March 21st, 2010, 04:27 PM
This company has been around for a while just not called Commodore. Commodores trademarks, logos, Amiga name, etc eventually got broken up post 97. These guys made an all in one PC like the old commodores used to be, and are trying to get the commodore name and logo onto its box.

They dont actually have the commodore logo nameplate yet : http://www.commodoreusa.net/update.html

They do appear to be trying to get it though.

Last time i saw it in the news a company called Tulip from the Netherlands owned the commodore branding.

Edit :

Some linkage, apparently they legaly have the commodore name. Go them.

http://www.maximumpc.com/article/news/commodore_name_may_live_again

http://www.engadget.com/2010/03/16/the-commodore-name-licensed-again-for-a-line-of-keyboard-pcs/

toupeiro
March 21st, 2010, 08:08 PM
The first thing that gave it away for me as a potential fake was the fact that ubuntu and Linux were separate items on the slideshow for OS support. While I find a lot of irony in the statement that makes about ubuntu in light of some choices in 10.04, its a misrepresentation of what ubuntu is and a reputable computer company wouldn't frame their slides in that manner.

The X1000 (http://www.a-eon.com/6.html) is the real next generation amiga

Duncan J Murray
March 21st, 2010, 08:29 PM
I would buy a cheap PPC computer with Amiga OS 4 on it just for laughs... Shame no-one's open sourced Amiga OS.

KiwiNZ
March 21st, 2010, 08:43 PM
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Naiki Muliaina
March 21st, 2010, 09:14 PM
Another linkage, i dont think its fake. Its just a new company that have gotten the Commodore name.


Commodore USA is a new company that has licensed the Commodore name from Commodore Gaming, which makes games for PCs and consoles. The PC company is trying to invoke the glory of the Commodore 64's past to promote the new PC. On its Web site, the company shows an image of the old Commodore 64 with the caption "you loved us then," and then an image of the new PC, with the caption "you'll love us again."

http://www.pcworld.com/article/191896/commodore_64_awakes_from_slumber_with_makeover.htm l

Yes
March 21st, 2010, 09:28 PM
If you hold Control and scroll back with the mouse wheel the images aren't pixelated. The pictures are fine, just whoever made the website screwed up.

hessiess
March 21st, 2010, 09:37 PM
Seriously, what's the point in selling yet another X86 PC clone?

themarker0
March 21st, 2010, 09:54 PM
Interesting idea. At work we are always looking for ways to reduce electricity useage, and this looks like a good way. Right now we are looking at windtops, but this does look promising.

Uncle Spellbinder
March 21st, 2010, 09:59 PM
The first thing that gave it away for me as a potential fake was the fact that ubuntu and Linux were separate items on the slideshow for OS support.

I thought that, too. But when grub comes up when booting Lucid. It no longer says "Ubuntu Linux" as one of the choices. It says "Ubuntu, With Linux".

toupeiro
March 21st, 2010, 10:25 PM
I thought that, too. But when grub comes up when booting Lucid. It no longer says "Ubuntu Linux" as one of the choices. It says "Ubuntu, With Linux".

lol, I rest my case. ;)

cdwillis
March 21st, 2010, 10:28 PM
That is an ugly piece of design. It reminds me of what we thought future computers would look like a decade ago. They should have made it more like the EeeKeyboard: http://www.engadget.com/photos/eee-keyboard-splayed-detailed-by-fcc/#2357322

tgalati4
March 21st, 2010, 10:37 PM
Ooooh, Ubuntu.

Now with linux!

toupeiro
March 21st, 2010, 10:44 PM
Ooooh, Ubuntu.

Now with linux!

I try not to sound like a conspiracy theorist, but I can't help but feel like ubuntu's PR is starting to feel embarrassed to be seen as a "linux distro". But thats a whole other topic..

Go Amiga!

phibxr
March 21st, 2010, 11:26 PM
This actually looks like an early april's fools joke. Especially when compared to the mac mini-campaign. :S

handy
March 22nd, 2010, 01:12 AM
Obviously people don't read many of the previous posts before they post. :(

This was posted by bpalone - post#_19:

http://www.cybernetman.com/

Which in combination with the direct copying of Apple advertising; the poor quality of the website; the completely blank "About Us" page on the website; the spelling mistakes & the logical mistakes; including the showing of the AmigaOS logo as though it can be run on x86 CPUs when it can only be run on PPC, make it pretty obvious that:

THE SITE IS A HOAX. Enjoy it. :)

Naiki Muliaina
March 22nd, 2010, 09:38 AM
THE SITE IS A HOAX. Enjoy it. :)

Its not a hoax. Please be reading my 2 posts in this thread. :P

mips
March 22nd, 2010, 09:42 AM
Shame it isn't using better GPU

Dunno if it's a fake or not but you should be able to upgrade the GPU via the miniPCI-E slot. Similar to what is used in your iMac except apple kinda bent the standard so you cant just use any card.

HansKisaragi
March 22nd, 2010, 09:46 AM
Eww... Id rather have a actual Commodore 64 then that piece of junk ;s

handy
March 22nd, 2010, 10:52 AM
Its not a hoax. Please be reading my 2 posts in this thread. :P

I can't believe that, that site is serious.

It just has too many flaws to have been made by anyone who had the money required to be doing what they say they are.

I hope I'm wrong. I hope they just started the site badly.

The site creates a very poor impression. Which doesn't bode well for the quality of what they say they are doing though. If in fact they are doing anything?

Naiki Muliaina
March 22nd, 2010, 11:02 AM
It doesnt bode well. But that PC thing has been around for a while. It does just look like someones gotten the commodore USA name, and wants to (/has) stick it onto their product. It even says on their website somewhere they are still trying to get the old logo.

I guess we can say its not fake, but its also not the old commodore company aye.

Thanking more along them lines, the name they have is commodore USA, not just commodore. Maybe they couldnt get the name commodore on its own for their project. *rubs nose* Agains, seems its real, just not the old commodore.

Swagman
March 22nd, 2010, 12:45 PM
Well, if they want it to appear the latest incarnation of AmigaOS runs on it then they had better quick/smart register the Amiga.Com domain

Yup.. It's now available !!

Btw.. The AmigaOS can ONLY be UAE (Emulator) NOT Os4 >

[edit]

This machine is being discussed on AmigaWorld -------------> HERE (http://amigaworld.net/modules/newbb/viewtopic.php?topic_id=31134&forum=2)

PartisanEntity
March 22nd, 2010, 12:49 PM
It looks fake to me. Crap web design and a missing About Us page are things a start-up cannot afford at all. You only get one chance to win customers usually, and if you mess it up from the beginning then its game over.

There is also no branding at all, no logo whatsoever, again something a start-up would never do.

Swagman
March 22nd, 2010, 12:54 PM
BTW

To those interested in Amiga there is a show coming up in UK to celebrate 25 years of the Amiga which will be held at.....


Bletchley Park (http://amigaworld.net/modules/newbb/viewtopic.php?mode=viewtopic&topic_id=31081&forum=16&start=0&viewmode=flat&order=0)

forrestcupp
March 22nd, 2010, 02:00 PM
i'm more inclined to beleive it's a small startup company trying to capitalize on the old Commodore name, even though this new PC is nothing like the old Commodore, except for the all in one idea.

Exactly what I was thinking. If it's real, it's blasphemy. This is not Commodore International or CBM; it's just some company capitalizing on a name we all know and love. The only thing similar at all is the idea of having the computer within the keyboard, and it doesn't even look the same.

I wouldn't want anything to do with some crappy computer that they slapped the Commodore name on just to make it seem more desirable.

lswartz
March 22nd, 2010, 02:43 PM
Eww... Id rather have a actual Commodore 64 then that piece of junk ;s

Well I just happen to still have one with monitor, disk drive & a modem (300 or 150 baud). I haven't had it running for 5 years, maybe more, but Jumpman still worked.

-grubby
March 22nd, 2010, 06:10 PM
If you hold Control and scroll back with the mouse wheel the images aren't pixelated. The pictures are fine, just whoever made the website screwed up.

No, the images are pixelated. The website owner would have had to intentionally resize them too large to get them to be pixelated, and since they apparently didn't notice they were pixelated, it's clear that in this case it was just negligence on their part.

Doctor Mike
March 22nd, 2010, 06:18 PM
Its not a hoax. Please be reading my 2 posts in this thread. :Phttp://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1435532

Need I say more...

handy
March 23rd, 2010, 11:32 PM
Just to muddy the waters some more:

http://amigaworld.net/modules/newbb/viewtopic.php?mode=viewtopic&topic_id=31134&forum=2&start=40&viewmode=flat&order=0#548161

The above was posted by Mark76 in @ ostalk.org yesterday.

MisfitI38
March 25th, 2010, 03:00 PM
Exactly what I was thinking. If it's real, it's blasphemy. This is not Commodore International or CBM; it's just some company capitalizing on a name we all know and love. The only thing similar at all is the idea of having the computer within the keyboard, and it doesn't even look the same...

I have to disagree. Commodore, as we knew and understood it, is long gone. What is a 'company', but the cumulative human beings behind its creation, owing to the community of consumers and fans which buy their product?

The Breadbox was simply an 8 bit computer which was made affordable and widely available. Its success was due in large part to its relatively advanced capabilities and low cost. It was a machine at the right place and time which, for some of us, will hold a special place in our hearts because of being our first exposure to personal computing.

By this logic, I contend that nothing could replace or surpass our sentimental attachment to the orginal Breadbox.

However, if a tech savvy, enthusiastic entrepreneur wants to resurrect the Commodore name, in the hopes of recapturing some of the original concepts it came to embody, then I wish him all the best and truly hope he succeeds.
The C=64 was a successful and affordable 'alternative PC for the masses'. If CommodoreUSA is legitimate, and rebrands this machine as such, offers the variety of operating systems as forecasted, (read 'not locked down with exclusively MS Windows') why would you view it as blasphemy?
Why wouldn't a F/OSS user or enthusiast hope for the success of such an idea?

forrestcupp
March 25th, 2010, 03:28 PM
If CommodoreUSA is legitimate, and rebrands this machine as such, offers the variety of operating systems as forecasted, (read 'not locked down with exclusively MS Windows') why would you view it as blasphemy?

Because they're taking it upon themselves to represent the world of Commodore enthusiasts, and they're not doing it justice.

Like you said, the beauty of the C64 was that it was technically advanced for its time, and it was a pioneer. This piece of junk is definitely not technically advanced, nor is it any sort of pioneer. They are just slapping everything into a thick keyboard and putting the Commodore name on it.

It's blasphemy because they are building cheap equipment and using a name we know and love to up their sales. Be honest. If it was called MicroTech or something instead of Commodore, would you even think about buying such a computer?

But of course that's only if it's even real, which it's probably not.

MisfitI38
March 25th, 2010, 05:59 PM
Because they're taking it upon themselves to represent the world of Commodore enthusiasts, and they're not doing it justice.



I understand your position, but who, or what, could do it justice in your view? I'm curious.
Perhaps another revolutionary leap forward in computing, while remaining relatively affordable?

I think that realistically it is a long shot, but one can dream. I mean, look at that silly iPod thing and how everyone on the planet needs one. ;)

forrestcupp
March 25th, 2010, 11:09 PM
I understand your position, but who, or what, could do it justice in your view?

but one can dream.

Exactly! One can dream.

Basically, it's not going to happen again. So why put the name on some sub-par piece of equipment and ruin the dream. ;)

handy
March 26th, 2010, 12:27 AM
My dream, is that AmigaOS will one day be ported to the x86 architecture. They have already rewritten it to be 64bit compatible.

If the developers went to the trouble, I'm sure they would have a winner on their hands, as so many people would love to be able to run a modern version of AmigaOS on their PCs.

Hopefully the day will come.

MisfitI38
March 26th, 2010, 01:10 AM
My dream, is that AmigaOS will one day be ported to the x86 architecture. They have already rewritten it to be 64bit compatible.

If the developers went to the trouble, I'm sure they would have a winner on their hands, as so many people would love to be able to run a modern version of AmigaOS on their PCs.

Hopefully the day will come.

I had an A1000. I miss it too. I'd love to try the newest iteration of AmigaOS, were it available for x86.

Shibblet
March 26th, 2010, 01:44 AM
Neat idea for commodore to get back into the PC biz. Hopefully that isn't their only advertising because the slideshow made me nauseous.

handy
March 26th, 2010, 02:10 AM
I had an A1000. I miss it too. I'd love to try the newest iteration of AmigaOS, were it available for x86.

I loved AmigaOS, I had an A1000 (eventually hotted it up with Phoenix board - 68030 & a pile of other improvements that I can't remember now); 3 or 4 A500s, & at least 2 A2000s. My father had an A500 & then an A1200, which we put a GVP 68030 & extra RAM card in.

Remember the cost of RAM in those days?

$1300 Oz, would get you an 8MB RAM card for an A2000, that was populated with 2MB!

Things have certainly changed since then. :)

I still remember the shock I experienced when I first looked at the win3.11 & then win95 systems, very ugly.

I thought, what are all of these files, & their names are only 8 characters long & they have funny .*** file extensions on them. How weird! :)

Crunchy the Headcrab
March 26th, 2010, 04:28 AM
It looks like a laptop minus the screen. Fail.

standingwave
March 26th, 2010, 07:25 AM
It's basically a nettop, not a netbook.

forrestcupp
March 26th, 2010, 01:42 PM
I loved AmigaOS, I had an A1000 (eventually hotted it up with Phoenix board - 68030 & a pile of other improvements that I can't remember now); 3 or 4 A500s, & at least 2 A2000s. My father had an A500 & then an A1200, which we put a GVP 68030 & extra RAM card in.

Dang. Lucky!

Back in my C64 days, I dreamed a lot about being able to have any Amiga I could get my hands on. I was a poor high school student, so I never got one.

MisfitI38
March 26th, 2010, 05:08 PM
I bought my used off my friend, who was leaving for college. $300 back then. I thought it was a good deal.
Unfortunately, I couldn't get any software for it. After ~1989, Egghead software and Babbage's stopped carrying anything Amiga-ish around here.
I guess it's still sitting in the boiler room in the house I grew up in.

Naiki Muliaina
March 26th, 2010, 05:36 PM
Think i had a C16? (well my dad did, i was to poor back then >.>) Deffo had a C64 and an Amiga 600. Both were lub and made of Win! :popcorn:

Swagman
March 26th, 2010, 07:42 PM
lol

I remember saving up all my pennies to buy the A570 cd drive that went in the side of an A500. It took me ages to save up... I went to the shop to buy it and they were having a delivery of......

New Amigas

32 bit 020 2mb ram

Guess what I came home with !!

shebaw
March 26th, 2010, 08:25 PM
Ok I know it brings back old memories for some of you but even if the company is real, the whole idea is a crappy one. They could have made it thinner, way thinner
!

handy
March 26th, 2010, 11:23 PM
Dang. Lucky!

Back in my C64 days, I dreamed a lot about being able to have any Amiga I could get my hands on. I was a poor high school student, so I never got one.

Lucky, because I am some years older & was working at the time?

Perhaps. I did enjoy the last part of the 60s & the first half of the 70s in particular, a great deal, perhaps too much. :)

forrestcupp
March 27th, 2010, 03:30 PM
Lucky, because I am some years older & was working at the time?

Perhaps. I did enjoy the last part of the 60s & the first half of the 70s in particular, a great deal, perhaps too much. :)

Have any of you Amiga lovers ever messed around with the UAE emulator? The official UAE was developed in Linux.

handy
March 27th, 2010, 04:25 PM
Have any of you Amiga lovers ever messed around with the UAE emulator? The official UAE was developed in Linux.

No, not UAE, I have tried AROS a couple of times, & not for a while.

AROS keeps on getting closer to reaching its first goal. Kind of like Haiku in that regard.

I think Haiku will reach version 1.0 first though.

swoll1980
March 27th, 2010, 04:45 PM
It looks like a laptop minus the screen. Fail.

It looks like the Bizarro World iMac

Doctor Mike
March 27th, 2010, 06:46 PM
I liked the original C64. It was finally a working computer that had enough memory to do something. The line numbering convention was great. You could block elements in accounts like bookkeeping and if you were consistent in your programing style you could easily add edit and debug very quickly. But, I'm a fan of simple procedural languages. Never really liked the concept of object oriented programing. It seemed to leave room for too many errors in structural though (small talk), but would often compile and run regardless of errors. It also seemed to suck up memory (without specific addressing conventions) or easy reallocation.

Any wonder why most good things are compiled in C and Not C+, but I'm out-of-date, so what do I know.

C did have object oriented elements (in a sense), but required better work.

bpalone
March 28th, 2010, 04:50 AM
Warning thread hijack!!


Any wonder why most good things are compiled in C and Not C+, but I'm out-of-date, so what do I know.

C did have object oriented elements (in a sense), but required better work.

I agree, I also think this has a lot to do with the bloat of MS and somewhat to Linux. It isn't all of it, but I bet it could be coded tighter and would be faster if done properly.

I guess learning to do things with just 4K total, makes one a bit more concise.

Hijack over.


My kids had the VIC-20, we couldn't afford a C-64 and my computers too. Which were TRS-80 models 1 and up and finally got an IBM clone running at a whopping 4.77 Mhz with if my memory serves correctly, a whole 640 K of memory. Shortly thereafter, I started to learn C and never saw that much advantage to object oriented either. But, I also didn't make my living coding. I also, dabbled a little in assembly back then. Now, that is fast code.

As for computer they are to offer, if it is in fact legit (April 1 isn't past yet). It isn't to bad for normal stuff such as most office apps, etc., the used one I bought isn't a power house, but it works just fine for me, although the video could be better, but then I was using Win2K with a XVGA monitor and they didn't have driver for that, so it isn't all the hardware.

lisati
March 28th, 2010, 04:55 AM
While we're feeling nostalgic, I remember playing with a PET (?) (model unknown) in a computer shop back circa 1980. Fun. Was too broke to actually buy one.

yetiman64
March 28th, 2010, 03:22 PM
The Commodore64 was the 1st ever computer I owned (and absolutely loved). I definitely wouldn't touch this offering though. It seems to be too much of a gimmick that is designed to play on the potential buyers sense of nostalgia.
Probably only good for those people with $$$ to spare. If I had the $$$ to spare, I'd rather get hold of a working original C64 (8bit processor. etc) than this "thing".

forrestcupp
March 28th, 2010, 10:41 PM
While we're feeling nostalgic, I remember playing with a PET (?) (model unknown) in a computer shop back circa 1980. Fun. Was too broke to actually buy one.

The PET was a Commodore, too. That was an ugly old piece of crud.

handy
March 28th, 2010, 11:51 PM
...I definitely wouldn't touch this offering though. It seems to be too much of a gimmick that is designed to play on the potential buyers sense of nostalgia.

The people that make it market it to Banks & such, the hardware has been around for some time, & there are various options re. CPU, HDD & RAM size, whether you require an optical drive & such.

Swagman
March 31st, 2010, 05:28 PM
Aros on an Acer Aspire one

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mn8TW0gF5xQ

k33bz
March 31st, 2010, 06:32 PM
SWEET, I thought Commodore went out of business years ago though,



grrrrrrrrr, I miss my C64

forrestcupp
March 31st, 2010, 06:40 PM
SWEET, I thought Commodore went out of business years ago though,

They did. Read the rest of the thread. This is just some company using the Commodore name to make a buck. Actually, it's probably not even real.

k33bz
March 31st, 2010, 06:47 PM
They did. Read the rest of the thread. This is just some company using the Commodore name to make a buck. Actually, it's probably not even real.

:( ya I see that, I just got though reading the rest of the thread, I am so sad now :((

bpalone
April 1st, 2010, 04:22 PM
Well just took a look to see if had an April's Fool stuck on it. It didn't and in fact they have polished it up quite a bit. So, it may in fact be totally legit.

Here is the link again if you want to check it out yourself:

http://www.commodoreusa.net/index.html

donkyhotay
April 1st, 2010, 04:45 PM
Yeah, they've really cleaned up their site, they even have contact information now on their contact page. Also prices are up, look like they're asking about $500 for a bare-bones preorder system.

haddog
April 3rd, 2010, 01:12 AM
I still want one!

handy
April 3rd, 2010, 08:14 AM
They may be legit after all.

Their site is better, but still has many faults.

Their computers aren't cheap either.

The Barebones at $499- US, has NO CPU, RAM, HDD, optical drive, wireless, bluetooth...

At least it has a keyboard & touchpad (though I really don't like touchpads).

As others have said, they look to be trying to cash in on the old love of the Commodore 64 & Amiga 500.

haddog
April 3rd, 2010, 09:51 AM
Think i'll just get a Sheeva...it'll tame the cool factor

handy
April 3rd, 2010, 11:08 PM
Whilst I was asleep their site has improved again.

It seems to be being worked on as I type this.

haddog
April 6th, 2010, 07:07 AM
has anyone ordered one of these?

handy
April 6th, 2010, 08:46 AM
has anyone ordered one of these?

Back in the first page or two someone said that they bought one some time ago. From the maker of the computer, not from Commodore USA.

haddog
April 6th, 2010, 11:51 PM
I'll check the thread out. Would be cool to see one...

handy
April 7th, 2010, 12:05 AM
I'll check the thread out. Would be cool to see one...

http://www.cybernetman.com/

duanedesign
April 7th, 2010, 12:25 AM
I just sent support@commodoreUSA.net the following email:

Hi,

I am an old Amigan, & I love much of the design of your new Commodore.

As you would have seen from the emails title my main question is how can you run AmigaOS on an Intel CPU based system?

Is there a rewrite of AmigaOS going on that will take it from PPC to x86, or is there another way to run AmigaOS on Intel?

There are quite a number of people on forums that I attend who would be VERY interested in the answers to this.

Also, hopefully you will be marketing a machine in the future that will provide a superior GPU, preferably ATi, as their open-source drivers are really starting to get it together, & will be great this year.

Thank you for your time.

Regards,

Have you received a reply yet to your email? I guess if you had you would of posted it here :)

I love the forums. Reading this thread i learned more about this computer than I have in the past couple weeks through other media sources.

handy
April 7th, 2010, 12:38 AM
Have you received a reply yet to your email? I guess if you had you would of posted it here :)

No reply.

I think they saw my email as one from an uninformed enthusiast. We have all learned a lot more since I wrote that.

I also think that they haven't got time to waste, as the way that their web page is being developed indicates that they seem to be in a rush.



I love the forums. Reading this thread i learned more about this computer than I have in the past couple weeks through other media sources.

Yes, we benefit from the large number of researchers of various topics that are members of the community. :)

bpalone
April 7th, 2010, 01:13 AM
has anyone ordered one of these?

I purchased a refurbed system from Cybernetman a couple of years ago. It is an Elite-4 model, which doesn't have a touch pad. It was bought so I could continue to use Win2K in a portable system. I sometimes have to spend weeks to months living and working out of a motel room. I have never liked XP so it was method to allow me to keep from migrating upward on the M$ treadmill. Not to long after it was acquired, I decided to make the move to Linux, which was a good one.

It works fine with 2K and 8.04 Hardy. I use an XVGA monitor and 2K doesn't have a good driver, so things are distorted a bit, but that is not the hardwares fault. In Hardy it works just fine with the XVGA monitor. I just downloaded Video drivers from their site, to see if they are newer than what I have. I continue to dual boot, as I have a couple of things that need ******* to run and one website that needs IE only for one portion of it. I keep threatening to capture some packets to see if I can create a Firefox plugin to solve that issue. But, for now it is easier to fire up ******* either in a VM or natively.

If you are short on space, they are great. But, they are not made for gaming, etc. (I assume as I am not a gamer) The model I have takes about twice as long to rip a DVD using Acidrip, as an old AMD 939 3400 that just recently had to be retired. I haven't ripped anything on the new machine to compare. It could be a memory issue for that, as the Elite-4 only has 1 gig and the AMD had 3 gig, so the slowness may be entirely memory. For day to day email, word processing, spreadheets, etc., it does just great. It also handles a virtual machine fairly well, at least one running 2K.

If anyone has more questions, please ask. If I know the answer I will reply and if I don't I'll say so. Hope this gives everyone an idea of what they are. As has been stated, they are not cheap. But, I also like the fact that I could replace most everything from sources other than the manufacturer, which is something you normally can't do with laptops, except hard drives and memory.

This has gotten long enough.

MisfitI38
May 3rd, 2011, 01:59 AM
Looks like you can order them now. Pretty nifty.
http://www.commodoreusa.net/CUSA_C64.aspx

frogotronic
August 20th, 2011, 02:43 PM
Hey,

Check it out: http://youtu.be/z6EswIQFV2Y

- CH :guitar:

CharlesA
August 20th, 2011, 03:32 PM
Threads merged.

forrestcupp
August 20th, 2011, 04:28 PM
Threads merged.

Now you have to lock the thread and give yourself an infraction for thread necromancy. :)

Bandit
August 20th, 2011, 08:44 PM
I like the VIC Slim model

http://www.commodoreusa.net/CUSA_VicSlim.aspx

CharlesA
August 20th, 2011, 09:06 PM
Now you have to lock the thread and give yourself an infraction for thread necromancy. :)

Didn't feel like locking the other thread. ;)

coolglobal
August 20th, 2011, 10:11 PM
I first found this site here:
http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2011/07/commodore-64-running-ubuntu/

Linuxratty
August 21st, 2011, 02:25 AM
People "Towered their A1200's" because they got fed up with 3 plates of spaghetti hanging out the back on their desk.

THIS is the image that was being bandied about a couple of years back for a new "All in one" Amiga

Ohhh,I'd like that,especially if the got rid of the bloody caps lock and had USB ports on the left,right,and front.

koleoptero
August 21st, 2011, 11:07 AM
I like the VIC Slim model

http://www.commodoreusa.net/CUSA_VicSlim.aspx

That looks nice. It'll also be nice to warm your hands on cold winter nights.

handy
September 1st, 2011, 01:00 AM
This was very recently posted by an admin, on the CommodoreUSA forum:


Amiga Forever, or it's licensed contents, will only be supplied with our future Amiga products.
Over 3000 licensed original Commodore games will be available through emulation on our C64 and VIC series computers.
As I stated earlier, there is currently no Commodore Operating System (COS). I have reserved this name for future use. To avoid confusion, please refrain from using this name.
The only OS that will be preinstalled on all Commodore computers is Linux Mint 11, Commodore Edition, and will include retro, contemporary and futuristic themes, wallpapers and screensavers.
The retro inspired OS, will be either downloadable, or available on disk. (tbd)

handy
September 6th, 2011, 11:54 PM
This came through today:


Message Subject : Re: Commodore Linux questions
Category : Commodore-OS Software Development
Posted by : CommodoreUSACTO

URL : http://www.commodore-amiga.org/en/forum/6-commodore-os-software-development/1254-commodore-os-questions?limit=15&start=165#8186

Message :
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Hi, there is no longer a project called Commodore OS.

There is the announced Commodore Mint Edition, which is more contemporary in appearance and open to themes and wallpapers from the community.
Then there is the project formerly known as Commodore OS which is now undergoing beta testing, which has a more distinctive theme and is more retro oriented.

No name has been set yet for that project, although the candidates are "Commodore Linux" and the "Commodore Linux Entertainment Operating System (Commodore LEOS)".

The aims of the project are:
•create a distinctive and attractive retro-enthusiast oriented
Commodore operating system environment.
•feel like an evolution of classic Commodore operating environments
(without compromising too much).
•include all the latest and greatest open source applications and
games pre-installed that further promote our “Beautiful high-performance, home computers for creativity and entertainment”.
•differentiate a Commodore from other products and projects, and
create a system Commodore fans can evangelise and be proud of.
•evolve to greater provide optimum integration with classic software
and Windows software and facilitate it beyond what is expedient.
•provide a base for Commodore USA’s future technology development and
interfaces culminating in things like an (optional) tablet interface.
•be interactive and open to community development and resource
offerings (of the highest calibre).
•include additional items which are retro enthusiast oriented, and
less mainstream/boring.
•provide hundreds of hours of entertainment possibilities in its own
right.
•promote software development and bedroom coding by providing the
latest toolsets from the simple to the most advanced.
•provide integrated help features, resources and tutorials to greater
empower users to use the software and computing power provided.
•evolve online user interactions, culminating in an app-store, social
computing and cloud features.
•have eye-catching visual effects, sound and bling that draw people
to our products.
•take more risks and be more experimental and therefore more
exciting. (within reason)