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z_diver
March 20th, 2010, 02:08 AM
Has anyone tried to install Karmic on a laptop that has HP's new Linux on a chip OS installed? I think it's a scaled down Splashtop desktop and at least a portion of the OS is hardware based. I sure wonder what would happen if/when I try to install grub and Ubuntu.

Feedback and hints would be great.
p.s. The machine in question is an HP Pavilion dv4-2140us.

z_diver
March 21st, 2010, 09:37 AM
This will come as little surprise, I kinda hosed the system. Right now only 9.10 is booting although all my windows files are there and it tries to boot. Here is what I did.

First I unchecked Start Quickweb in the Win7 control panel. Easy enough. I then rebooted the machine again and resized the main partition using disk manager. Fair enough. Still booted. Then created a partion from within disk manager. (That might be where a problem arose but not certain).

I then restarted the 9.10 cd and tried verified it works. All good so I installed using manual partitioning on the free space i created earlier with Windows. Swap first, ext3 for the rest as /. Installed and rebooted but this time only 'buntu would boot and w7 wouldn't work. It starts to boot but after the windows boot logo w7 just reboots again. Hmmm. The windows system files and my data is all there so what could cause windows to reboot like that?

dyslexia
March 22nd, 2010, 03:24 AM
Probably writes the partition table in a slightly different manner.

let us know what you discover, linux-on-a-chip is a great idea but it's bound to get weird when it enters the windows gravity well.

Blue DaNoob
March 31st, 2010, 12:03 AM
Yup. I hosed mine too. I think I know where I failed.

I started with a Wubi install in Windows 7. That got corrupted during the updates, so I started over. Got Wubi working, but there is no sleep functionality, so I decided to move it to a dedicated partition. I ended up using UNetbootin (http://unetbootin.sourceforge.net/) with Partition Manager to shrink my windows installation from a USB key drive. That worked! QuickWeb and Win 7 were still booting. I let Windows go through it maintenance a couple of times as directed by the tutorial. Now it was time to reclaim the disk space into a new partition.

That was my first bottleneck. Again with Partition Manager, I tried to format the unclaimed space as a new partition. Unfortunately, you are only allowed 4 partitions total. And they already existed: Boot, Win 7, Win 7 Recovery, and HP Tools. Plus, now, a ton of unclaimed HD space. I read that could use UNetbootin with SystemRescueCD (http://www.sysresccd.org/Main_Page) to create extended virtual partitions or some such thing, but I decided to just erase the rescue and tools images, and reformat all the reclaimed space into 2 new partitions: one for the root, and one for swap (twice the size of RAM). Partition Manager was able to handle all this as well, although it got a little scary. Rebooted to test, and QuickWeb and Win 7 launched no problems.

I launched Ubuntu under Wubi and installed Lubi (https://launchpad.net/lvpm) to migrate the virtual disk over to my new partitions. The first time it failed with a Grub error. 15 I think. The second time it worked better, but still wouldn't boot. Win 7 and QuickWeb were still launching, but no Ubuntu. I decided to use UNetbootin again to just do a brand new install of Karmic.

I found this guide (http://photonymous.blogspot.com/2010/02/dual-booting-hp-mini-210-hd-with.html) about installing a Triple boot system, but I didn't follow it because I had already started down a different path.

In the end, I think I installed Grub in the wrong directory or something under advanced options in the last step. Grub booted, and I could launch Ubuntu, but now Windows 7 wouldn't boot at all. I tried in vain to repair the damage using SuperGrub (http://forjamari.linex.org/projects/supergrub/) but it was beyond me.

In a final bout of frustration, I reformatted the whole drive with a fresh copy of Ubuntu. And that's how I broke QuickWeb. I think I saw some files in Windows 7 that QuickWeb might have needed to operate. It's enabled in the BIOS settings, but it won't launch.

I could probably do without Windows 7, but I was really diggin that QuickWeb. Anyone know how to bring it back under Ubuntu? Does QuickWeb have any relationshiup with Grub or should it run first. I guess I'm not sure if Grub broke it, or if removing Windows broke it.

Anyway, I hope all that helps someone.

Blue DaNoob
April 5th, 2010, 08:46 PM
And according to HP Tech Support, Splashtop aka QuickWeb requires Windows 7 Installation to work. If you delete your Windows 7 Partition, you will need to order recovery disks if you want QuickWeb back. It will not work on top of a straight Ubuntu installation. Linux QuickWeb requires Windows.

louistan3
June 7th, 2010, 09:00 AM
Has anybody figured out how to do a tripleboot?

I just recently got an HP laptop and was wondering if i could do this.

I dont want to lose the quickweb functionality as it seems pretty useful.

jajaja_622
September 26th, 2010, 10:24 PM
Has anybody figured out how to do a tripleboot?

I just recently got an HP laptop and was wondering if i could do this.

I dont want to lose the quickweb functionality as it seems pretty useful.

I have the same question! I dont want to loose the quick web functionality, please if anyone knows share with us :)

tpspencer
January 29th, 2011, 01:25 PM
I've not tried this (yet) myself, but I found this description on how to do this on the HP pages:

http://h30434.www3.hp.com/t5/Notebook-Operating-systems-and/HP-mini-210-quickweb-install/td-p/212868