Hard drive evolution could hit MS XP users

[boxcorner]

news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/technology/8557144.stm

[hessiess]

Hardware advances like this are lickly to become very common, the entire architecture of desktop computers is vastly out of date. Forcing the ditching of zombieware like XP is a good thing.

[RiceMonster]

Is that a typo in the thread title?

[swoll1980]

Maybe it might make drives 10% slower on XP. Don't think the XP loyalist will care to much.

[zekopeko]

Is that a typo in the thread title?

You wish.

[BrokenKingpin]

Hardware advances like this are lickly to become very common, the entire architecture of desktop computers is vastly out of date. Forcing the ditching of zombieware like XP is a good thing.

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[cascade9]

Itsnot like you cant align the heads with the right tools with XP. I would guess that most people who are going to install a new drive for use with XP would use the tools you need...but thats a pure guess.


Maybe it might make drives 10% slower on XP. Don't think the XP loyalist will care to much.

You mean that unaligned it would 10% slower? Think agian, its a Hefty Perfromance Loss with NTFS-

http://www.xbitlabs.com/articles/storage/display/1tb-hdd-roundup-3_13.html

[swoll1980]

Itsnot like you cant align the heads with the right tools with XP. I would guess that most people who are going to install a new drive for use with XP would use the tools you need...but thats a pure guess.

I think you guess wrong. I think most people just plug them in, and leave them alone. I'm a second year IT student, and I have no idea how to align heads on a hard drive.


You mean that unaligned it would 10% slower? Think agian, its a Hefty Perfromance Loss with NTFS-

The 10% was according to the link the op posted.

[cascade9]

I think you guess wrong. I think most people just plug them in, and leave them alone. I'm a second year IT student, and I have no idea how to align heads on a hard drive.

Well...IMO there are a few reasons for that.

To be quick, most I.T. courses I've seen lag a bit (to a lot) behind whats actually happening....esp. with hardware. They tend to concentrate on software, hardware is 'just a box' for most IT courses and IT people.

Which is one reason why I do a bit of business with 'professional IT people' LOL. They either come to a hardware moneky like me to get a new boxxen built, or go to Dell/HP/Compaq/etc etc- building boxes is 'boring' or 'beneath my pay grade'. *no, this isnt a rule....and I will admit I've known a few IT people who are right into it, but they are rare in my expereince*

Add on to that, aligning is very new, WD EARS driver are the 1st drivers you've actually needed to do this to. Even when the 4K drives are out, in numbers, from different manufacturers, I would guess that IT will gloss over the problem, XP is 'old tech'.

Just so you know- theres jumpers on the EARS drives for advanced format ('to achive full performance with XP on a single partiton', you dont need to use any tool with this jumper in place and a single partiton, it aligns for you), and if you do want to partition the EARS drives for XP there is a tool from WD (advance format utility)-

http://wdc.custhelp.com/cgi-bin/wdc.cfg/php/enduser/std_adp.php?p_faqid=5324&p_created=1263858658&p_sid=xbnV-uVj&p_accessibility=0&p_redirect=&p_srch=1&p_lva=&p_sp=cF9zcmNoPTEmcF9zb3J0X2J5PSZwX2dyaWRzb3J0PSZwX 3Jvd19jbnQ9MTk2LDE5NiZwX3Byb2RzPTIyNywyOTQmcF9jYXR zPSZwX3B2PTIuMjk0JnBfY3Y9JnBfcGFnZT0x&p_li=&p_topview=1

http://support.wdc.com/product/download.asp?groupid=618&lang=en

*edit- the drive label actualy give you more than a hint that you are going to have to use the tool for multi-parttiton with XP. Then agian, maybe its only hardware freaks who actually read the drive labels....

http://blog.fosketts.net/wp-content/uploads/2009/12/WD10EARS.png


The 10% was according to the link the op posted.

I'd never trust a single article on any hardware......besides that, hes quoting a 'Mr. Burks from Seagate'.
1st off, I would bet that Mr. Burks is some sort of PR rep *cough* cant believe a word they say *cough*. 2nd- Seagate dont even have a 4K sector drive out yet, if you do believe Mr. Burks, then the Seagate engineers migth be planning on aproaching the 512bB/4K problem differently. But in the real world, with the current WD drives, 10% more than a bit out.

Its going to be interesting, considering that from what I know, everyone is going to have to move to 4K sectors to break the 2TB barrier.

[lisati]

Three of my current machines that have the humble IBM PC (or clones) as part of their technological heritage, and the other two (which I haven't used for a while) have the Commodore 64 as part of theirs. It wouldn't surprise me at all if in a few hundred years people look back and wonder how we managed.

[boxcorner]

Is that a typo in the thread title?
No, it wasn't a typo.

[CharlesA]

No, it wasn't a typo. No it wasn't me who amended the title from M$ to MS, either. Guess someone here loves M$, oops I mean MS ;)

Helps to read here (http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1405390).

[boxcorner]

Helps to read here (http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1405390).
Thanks. Well, I'm sorry if anyone is/was offended by my gibe. I consider myself admonished.