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March 7th, 2010, 02:39 AM
I'm attempting to install the 64 bit version of Ubuntu 9.10 on my backup computer, a dual boot with Vista. I can get the initial screen, but I get an error when I try to check the disc for defects. I get a similar error when I try Live-CD (try Ubuntu without changing computer).
Details, troubleshooting and a process of elimination:
My backup computer was purchased on Craigslist a couple of years ago: it was home-built with an AMD Athlon-64 Dual Core Processor 3800+. Belarc Adviser assures me that it is 64-bit ready. It has Vista-32 installed on it. Last month I successfully installed Open-Suse 11.2 64 on it, so I know that it can run *some* version of 64 bit Linux. My machine also handles the 32 bit version of Ubuntu 9.10, at least in LiveCD mode. (Later, when I installed Win2000 over it, Opensuse 64 ceased to work. I then reconsidered my options and decided to work with the Ubuntu community. Greetings! I have since removed Win2000 and have Vista installed, along with a dead copy of Opensuse on a couple of Linux partitions.)
The 64 bit CD does not appear to be defective: it operates in Live-CD mode with my Dell Phenom X4.
Error for checking the disc:
I get a page of stuff ending with this line:
2.147161] [f gobbltygook ] child_rip +0x0/0x20
Error for Live CD 64 bit:
I get a page of stuff ending with this line:
2.147355] [f gobbltygook ] child_rip +0x0/0x20
"gobbltygook" is a string beginning in "f" that I didn't write down. Let me know if it would help.
Is the 64 bit version flaky?
Ookay, what are my options?
I could be directed to a thread/webpage on this topic which I have somehow missed.
I could think about trying the alternative install CD.
I could try an older version of the 64 bit Ubuntu.
I could try something else.
I could just install the 32 bit version. Maybe I could attempt a multiboot later.
I am an intermediate user in Windows who is brand spanking new to Linux. Any advice is appreciated, as my linux intuition is wholly undeveloped. I'd like to try some scientific software, which may or may not have improved performance with 64 bit.
(Am I correct in believing that I can run 32 bit linux programs with a 64 bit linux OS, albeit with some performance compromise?)
March 7th, 2010, 03:18 AM
You should verify the .iso you have was not corrupted from the start. From a terminal run:
where filename is the target .iso file. The result of that command is a 128-bit hash. Verify that the hash of the image you downloaded matches the appropriate one from this list[1,2] before you burn it to cd (always burn at the slowest speed possible). After the hash is verified you can then boot the CD and select 'Check disk for defects'.
March 7th, 2010, 03:24 AM
Yeah I would just try burning a new cd first and make sure to verify the disk after burning. You can also try installing it without booting into the live cd first and see if the installation starts successfully.
March 7th, 2010, 05:11 AM
The CD appeared to be fine.
I tested the MD5 hash with MD5 File and Folder Comparator Lite, a program I downloaded at PC world. It matched. I burnt a new CD. It had the same symptoms (far right column of error message appeared identical). Plus, the 64 bit Ubuntu Live-CD worked fine on my main computer, as I alluded to in my original post.
Thanks for the help. I still can't get the 64 bit Ubuntu Live-CD to work on my backup machine. I'm inclined to wait until tomorrow before trying a direct install of the program. If anybody has any other suggestions, I'd be much appreciative.
March 7th, 2010, 10:49 PM
Ok I discovered F6, conveniently located at the bottom of the intro screen. Here is the Ubuntu help page dedicated to Boot Options (https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BootOptions). I can get the 64 bit Live CD to work, provided I choose, "acpi=off", which disables the Advanced Configuration and Power Interface (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Advanced_Configuration_and_Power_Interface).
As I understand it, my options are:
Install Ubuntu 9.10 - 64 with ACPI disabled
Try another version of Ubuntu - 64 (8.04 LTS?)
Install Ubuntu 9.10 - 32 -- this worked without editing in F6
Try another distro of Linux 64 bit.
Will I get in trouble if I install Ubuntu64 9.10 with ACPI disabled? Should I anticipate certain issues? Advice and thoughts, above and below, are welcome and appreciated.
March 13th, 2010, 05:37 AM
Problem resolved: Ubuntu 9.10 64-bit is now installed with the acpi=off option. How do I change the forum tag?
Maybe someone will find this helpful
This noob had to struggle with things for a while. I wanted to dual-boot with Vista installed first. When I tried to follow this documentation page (https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WindowsDualBoot), I couldn't seem to find either something like "Resize IDE1 master, partition #1 (hda1) and use freed space" under "Automatic partition resizing", nor could I find "Size" under "Manually edit partition table". I'm not saying that the Ubuntu instructions can't be made to work, only that I didn't have any luck with them.
I ended up creating a new partition in Vista using these instructions (http://apcmag.com/how_to_dualboot_vista_with_linux_vista_installed_f irst.htm), and the helpful guide " Working Around Windows Vista's "Shrink Volume" Inadequacy Problems (http://www.howtogeek.com/howto/windows-vista/working-around-windows-vistas-shrink-volume-inadequacy-problems/)". A 15 day trial for Perfect Disk was also used.
Once I had a 14GB FAT32 partition, I booted up the Live-CD (with the F6 option: acpi=off) and attempted an install from within Linux. Specify English, the time zone, the keyboard.
Then choose the manual option for partitions. Select my new (empty) partition, click the "Change..." button, edit the partition: set the size to 2000MB and choose "swap" from the dialog box list. Click and wait.
I get a new entry: sda3. Specify ext4 (what the heck), "primary", and for the mount point choose the lonesome forward slash. I understand that's the root directory which is different than the /root directory. Oh yeah, and everything is a file, whatever that means. (Told ya I was a noob: you have been warned. :) )
Reboot and when grub2 delivers the boot up options, hit "e". That will allow you to edit the grub2 command for that time only. There will be an entry "quiet splash". Change that to "quiet splash acpi=off". Now hit CTRL-x and hopefully you can boot into ubuntu.
If you don't want to do that rigmarole every time (and who does?) you will have to edit the grub2 menu. grub2 is the latest and greatest version of grub and is now installed by default in Ubuntu. Some documentation is here: http://rhnotebook.wordpress.com/2010/02/14/grub-2-guide/ Find the acpi=off reference.
If you're a recovering windows user, this may be your first introduction to linux users rights. Apparently linux let's you run programs as an administrator within your session. If you don't do all this, ubuntu will deny you permission to edit the relevant file. Bummer.
Hit ALT-F2 to get a command line.
Enter the command "gksudo nautilus", with no quotes.
gksudo is a lot like "sudo". "sudo" means "Run this program "from the root" with administrator privileges". Or not. "nautilus" is the file manager: they call it windows explorer or my computer in MS-land.
From nautilus, press "File System" and make your way to -> etc/default/grub. Right click the grub file, copy it, then paste it back into the directory. Now you have a copy of the file. Right click the grub file again and "Open with gedit".
Now we tamper with the batch file. Replace "quiet splash" with "quiet splash acpi=off". Save the file and close gedit. Then tell grub what you've just done. Hit ALT-F2 again and type:
Then reboot and hope it works.
I re-emphasize my inexperience and urge users to read the above with that in mind. Comments, suggestions and corrections are welcome.
March 13th, 2010, 05:46 AM
Final advice for noobs: do some serious backing up before you attempt to install a new OS. Consider Macrium for a disk image of the OS and back up your data to an external hard drive or a bunch of DVDs.
Then to be extra safe, disconnect the external hard drive when you install Ubuntu.
March 13th, 2010, 11:44 PM
Final details. My problem was that NVIDIA video cards don't place nicely with Ubuntu's ACPI (Advanced Configuration and Power Interface). The patch involves setting ACPI=off during bootup with the Live CD (via F6) and with grub 2. For some reason I could boot up the 32 bit LiveCD Ubuntu directly, IIRC.
Here are my specs:
Ubuntu 9.10 64 bit desktop
2.00 gigahertz AMD Athlon 64 X2 Dual Core
NVIDIA GeForce 8400 GS [Display adapter]
BIOS: Phoenix Technologies, LTD 6.00 PG 10/20/2005
3070 Megabytes Usable Installed Memory
NVIDIA nForce 10/100/1000 Mbps Ethernet
DELL 2408WFP [Monitor] (24.0"vis) LCD
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