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Rytron
February 28th, 2010, 09:38 PM
Hi.
Example Scenario:
Someone has a laptop running Windows Vista on an 80GB hard drive.
They have 50GB used up.
They want to install Ubuntu as a dual boot. They allocate 30GB to the Ubuntu install.
Would all of the data on the Vista side be 100% safe? This may seem like a silly question but I'd just like it confirmed.
Thank you.

codemaniac
February 28th, 2010, 09:42 PM
No problem with that go ahead and install ubuntu..your vista partition will not be affected..with ubuntu installed you can also access your ntfs partitions from ubuntu with full read write access..

oldfred
February 28th, 2010, 09:45 PM
NO.

Your 80GB drive is not 80GiB, probably about 76GiB. The drives use 1000 and systems use 1024 bytes math.
System requires space for journaling which consumes some of the available space.
Windows needs 10-20% free space just to keep working or 5 to 10GBjust to keep working.

Rytron
February 28th, 2010, 10:00 PM
NO.

Your 80GB drive is not 80GiB, probably about 76GiB. The drives use 1000 and systems use 1024 bytes math.
System requires space for journaling which consumes some of the available space.
Windows needs 10-20% free space just to keep working or 5 to 10GBjust to keep working.

Ah yes. I now remember hearing that about Windows and the percentage of free space. I was told 20% is reccomended.

On that matter. Does Ubuntu require x% of space to function at its best?

oldfred
March 1st, 2010, 01:06 AM
I think ubuntu hide some extra space. Some tools report different sizes than others. It maybe the space reserved for journaling.

As far as my estimate of your drive size, it was swag, but there has been some discussion before where users were complaining about "missing" space. Someone else commented wait till you buy a 2TB drive and see how much you lose.

My est was not too far off. 80/1.073.741.824 = 74.5

MB vs MiB
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Binary_prefix
Conversions for KB, MB, GB
one gibibyte 1 GiB = 2**30 B = 1.073.741.824 B
http://www.osforge.com/news/001337.html

Rytron
March 1st, 2010, 01:09 AM
Thank you oldfred. ;)