MS bot net takedown removed less than 1% of the spam

[sdowney717]

http://www.computerworld.com/s/article/9162498/Researchers_question_Microsoft_s_botnet_take_down

typically generated by botnets.
Sounds like the botnet takedown was not much of a takedown at all. If you really want to kill botnets, dont use MS windows.

[Post Monkeh]

my title was snappier imho

[TheNessus]

my title was snappier imho
didn't snap for me. my titles are wobbly, so it disables it.

[The Toxic Mite]

MS bot net takedown removed less than 1% of the spam

Fail.

[qra0]

http://www.computerworld.com/s/article/9162498/Researchers_question_Microsoft_s_botnet_take_down

typically generated by botnets.
Sounds like the botnet takedown was not much of a takedown at all. If you really want to kill botnets, dont use MS windows.

Linux has botnets too...

[The Toxic Mite]

Linux has botnets too...

EDIT due to troll's sentiment

Can I have a source for that please? I don't believe you.

[NoaHall]

Source or it isn't true.

It really is true. Trust me on that ;)

[qra0]

Source or it isn't true.

http://www.google.com

[Zerorebels]

http://www.google.com
google? people still use that?:roll::shock::shock:

[The Toxic Mite]

google? people still use that?:roll::shock::shock:

It's been reported, don't worry :-)

[KiwiNZ]

It's been reported, don't worry :-)

Please stick to reporting only

[KiwiNZ]

EDIT due to troll's sentiment

Can I have a source for that please? I don't believe you.

http://lwn.net/Articles/222153/

[The Toxic Mite]

http://lwn.net/Articles/222153/

Thank you very much. I rest my case.

[Tristam Green]

Woohoo. 1% of spam on the Interwebs is gone now. I can imagine that another 2% would be eradicated if ... 33% of the individual user accounts on Twitter and Gmail were removed.

[The Toxic Mite]

Woohoo. 1% of spam on the Interwebs is gone now. I can imagine that another 2% would be eradicated if ... 33% of the individual user accounts on Twitter and Gmail were removed.

I kinda agree with you here. :-/

[KiwiNZ]

Thank you very much. I rest my case.


umm it shows that there is linux Botnets

"Unfortunately, it is increasingly clear that Linux boxes (as well as MacOS X and other UNIX boxes) are participating in botnets"

[Zoot7]

Linux has botnets too...


http://lwn.net/Articles/222153/

Oh noeZ!! Who wudda thunk it??? :(

[Tristam Green]

I kinda agree with you here. :-/

Seriously, why do I care how big some random dude's hard drive is? If it walks like a duck, quacks like a duck, and fits in a can of Spam (TM) brand meat, then it's probably spam...

[qra0]

Seriously, why do I care how big some random dude's hard drive is?

Innuendo win.

[cprofitt]

Even more 'interesting' to me is that MS has tabs on Windows machines... how are they doing that?

[Tristam Green]

Innuendo win.

pff, no innuendo. I kid you not, I *just* read two people comparing HDD sizes on Twitter.

[qra0]

pff, no innuendo.

Then your previous comment makes no sense.

[MooPi]

umm it shows that there is linux Botnets

"Unfortunately, it is increasingly clear that Linux boxes (as well as MacOS X and other UNIX boxes) are participating in botnets"
We should all agree that they exist but in a different capacity. Windows botnets are generally corrupted personal computers with active users. Linux botnets are compromised servers that have been quietly hacked. The average Linux user is keenly aware of all the services that are running on their box and when it's doing something unusual we step in and investigate. A botnet of compromised Facebook Linux bots is not happening.;)

[Frak]

The average Linux user is keenly aware of all the services that are running on their box and when it's doing something unusual we step in and investigate.

Be careful with blanket statements that assume the user has more knowledge than they actually do.

[MooPi]

Be careful with blanket statements that assume the user has more knowledge than they actually do.
I did say average not all

[gsmanners]

http://lwn.net/Articles/222153/

TMYK:


The desktop infection methods are not typically as useful for Linux boxes and so bot herders have turned to web application exploits as a means for collecting subverted machines.


Open source PHP applications are the main target as they are ubiquitous and typically easy to exploit as some recent research (http://blogs.securiteam.com/index.php/archives/815) indicates.

Note: "Research" that is over 3 years old at this point (as is this article).

[Queue29]

We should all agree that they exist but in a different capacity. Windows botnets are generally corrupted personal computers with active users. Linux botnets are compromised servers that have been quietly hacked. The average Linux user is keenly aware of all the services that are running on their box and when it's doing something unusual we step in and investigate. A botnet of compromised Facebook Linux bots is not happening.;)

Just because you know how to put a cd in your computer, reboot, and follow a bunch of dialog boxes does NOT mean you know jack crap about what your operating system is doing behind the scene. To assume that ["average"] linux users know more about what every command listed under "top" than the average windows user knows about the items in task manager is a laughable, flawed, and embarrassing argument.

[swoll1980]

Just because you know how to put a cd in your computer, reboot, and follow a bunch of dialog boxes does NOT mean you know jack crap about what your operating system is doing behind the scene. To assume that ["average"] linux users know more about what every command listed under "top" than the average windows user knows about the items in task manager is a laughable, flawed, and embarrassing argument.

Yeah, seriously. I've installed Linux on a few of my family, and friends' computers. They are now Linux users, and wouldn't know a malicious process from a whole in their heads.

[koenn]

We should all agree that they exist but in a different capacity.
Windows botnets are generally corrupted personal computers with active users.
Linux botnets are compromised servers that have been quietly hacked.
The average Linux user is keenly aware of all the services that are running on their box and when it's doing something unusual we step in and investigate. A botnet of compromised Facebook Linux bots is not happening.;)
Are you saying that home computers with Linux on are better maintained and more secure than servers (ran by professionals, I suppose ?). That an 'average user' is more aware than a server admin about services running on his boxes ?

[Scarfnoogan]

The average Linux user is keenly aware of all the services that are running on their box and when it's doing something unusual we step in and investigate.

I'm below average....my teachers were right :(