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heretic9
March 8th, 2006, 03:13 PM
Anyone want to try XGL via live cd can now download it here:
http://kororaa.org/

heretic9
March 8th, 2006, 03:53 PM
Torrent here:

http://linuxtracker.org/torrents-details.php?id=1604

Http dl seems kinda slow

deeek
March 8th, 2006, 04:53 PM
Just tried this out and it works flawlessly for me. :) Plus, it seems that I get better 3D performance with this than Ubuntu.

heretic9
March 8th, 2006, 04:55 PM
well it is based on gentoo, from personal experience its a faster distro but can be a pain to get up and running.

Monoman
March 8th, 2006, 06:15 PM
Forbidden
You don't have permission to access /releases/xgl/kororaa-xgl-demo-livecd-0.1.iso on this server.

Additionally, a 404 Not Found error was encountered while trying to use an ErrorDocument to handle the request.


anyone have a http mirror? no torrent support from work.

Rotarychainsaw
March 8th, 2006, 07:24 PM
If I didn't have XGL running on mine all the time, I'd try it out. Someone tell me how well it works though, so I can tell my friends.

Melvil
March 8th, 2006, 08:01 PM
I can't access the torrent file, do I have to register for this torrent site?

kiddo
March 8th, 2006, 08:03 PM
The torrent page does not seem to do anything with me. Could anyone be kind enough to attach the torrent file (as a .tar.gz if needed) to this thread? Thanks :)

zachtib
March 8th, 2006, 08:55 PM
the livecd didnt work for me :( apparently there are issues with my card

GeneralZod
March 8th, 2006, 08:55 PM
The torrent page does not seem to do anything with me. Could anyone be kind enough to attach the torrent file (as a .tar.gz if needed) to this thread? Thanks :)

Here's a link to the .torrent file:

http://etotheipiplusone.com/Kororaa-Xgl-Live-CD-0.1.torrent

There's about 450 people on it.

mgsfan
March 9th, 2006, 01:39 AM
I'm testing it right now and all I can say is wow..lol I love xgl..its running perfectly on my system ..wish I had the guts to try it on my dapper install lol..but for now I'll keep testing it on the live cd

Melvil
March 9th, 2006, 01:41 AM
Doesn't work for me.

I get the Nvidia logo showing up and after logging in all I get is a blue screen.
Ctrl+Alt+Backspace shows me some sort of crashing strack trace in the terminal

mgsfan
March 9th, 2006, 01:44 AM
this is running on ati x700 pro 256 and an amd 2600 lol.

zachtib
March 9th, 2006, 01:58 AM
so, when can we expect this to be updated with the newest fglrx drivers? the current drivers dont work with my card

poofyhairguy
March 9th, 2006, 03:10 AM
This belongs in community chat!

MetalMusicAddict
March 9th, 2006, 03:22 AM
Nice. I can finally give these out to people to show them what Ive been gabbing on about. :)

You dont have to register for the tracker. ;)

Jucato
March 9th, 2006, 04:21 AM
Umm... kinda confused by all this hype... but (oh I feel so stupid just asking this...)

What is XGL actually? All I know is that people have been talking about it. :D

Btw, you don't have to register for the torrent. Just click "OK" when it asks you to register and the it will proceed as normal. I'm downloading it right now actually.

heretic9
March 9th, 2006, 04:33 AM
XGL well its...bah a video is worth a billion words so just download this:

http://www.freedesktop.org/~davidr/xgl-demo1.xvid.avi

mattisking
March 9th, 2006, 05:02 AM
It locks my slower PC up hard... of course this is the same machine I was never able to get Xgl running on anyway. I'll be trying it out on my primary PC in just a few minutes. I'm pretty confident it will run great on my primary... Ubuntu Dapper with Xgl rocks on here.

Bandit
March 9th, 2006, 05:05 AM
XGL well its...bah a video is worth a billion words so just download this:

http://www.freedesktop.org/~davidr/xgl-demo1.xvid.avi
OMG,, I new it was going to do alot. But that was amazing...
If its only released with half of what was shown I would still be thrilled to death..

Jucato
March 9th, 2006, 05:18 AM
Um I've actually seen the demo before. But what I'm really wondering is WHAT it really is? Is XGL a sort of X server or an application that runs on top of X? If it's an X server, will it be replacing X.Org? (Now I'm really confused with all these X_X )

Confusion aside, the effects are really uber cool. of course some of those effects can be done with some apps (3D Desktop for example). But having them built in (they are built it right?) is extra nice. I guess I have to wait for the Kororaa ISO to finish downloading and hope my system can handle this. :D *keeps fingers crossed*

Lux Perpetua
March 9th, 2006, 05:20 AM
I'm not terribly impressed; it had tons of display artifacts, and after a few minutes, it locked hard and I had to power the computer off to reboot it.

Then again, I do have an ATi card...

Bandit
March 9th, 2006, 05:49 AM
Blahh.. It wouldnt load the desktop.
After the GDM loaded the screen went crazy.
Dont think it recognized the correct driver for my video card. :(

Jucato
March 9th, 2006, 05:53 AM
Ok, now I'm beginning to doubt whether my system can support it... Just when I was becoming hopeful of trying it out without having to install Dapper. :(

Bandit
March 9th, 2006, 06:17 AM
UPDATE!!
I just ran the live CD on my wifes PC (Celeron 2.93GHz / FX5200 128MB-DDR / 512MB DDR-333) It ran like a dream. Very very fluid and fast... Totally puts OSX to shame.. No lie..
If I can get all this to work in Dapper after its released I may just put my FX5500 256MB back in my system..

Jucato
March 9th, 2006, 07:27 AM
Oh crap... if those are the minimum specs needed to run XGL, then it will remain to be a dream for me... (my system is Sempron 1.5GHz, GeForce4 MX4000 128MB-DDR, 256MB DDR-RAM) so sad... :(

Bandit
March 9th, 2006, 08:12 AM
Oh crap... if those are the minimum specs needed to run XGL, then it will remain to be a dream for me... (my system is Sempron 1.5GHz, GeForce4 MX4000 128MB-DDR, 256MB DDR-RAM) so sad... :(
A FX5200 is actualy little slower then then MX4000 from what I was told after purchaseing it originaly for one of the previous system.
A Athlon 2400+ (2Ghz, 266Mhz FSB) is faster then my wifes Cely 2.93GHz in real world test.. So you may be in luck...

poofyhairguy
March 9th, 2006, 08:41 AM
Oh crap... if those are the minimum specs needed to run XGL, then it will remain to be a dream for me... (my system is Sempron 1.5GHz, GeForce4 MX4000 128MB-DDR, 256MB DDR-RAM) so sad... :(


I ran it on a dual 600 MHZ P3. So yours can run it.

Jucato
March 9th, 2006, 08:57 AM
It did? It did?!?! Now I have my hopes up again!! :D
a few hours more and the download is finished!!! If I like it, I'm installing Dapper next week! Poofyhairguy, you might find me asking a lot of questions by then :D
(Actually, my original question wasn't answered yet. Is XGL a replacement for the X.Org X server?)

Virogenesis
March 9th, 2006, 09:23 AM
heres some info on XGL (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Xgl)

Mathias-K
March 9th, 2006, 10:31 AM
I downloaded the Kororaa LiveCD yesterday and slammed it into my Geforce 6600Go-based laptop with no luck. I get a completely black screen with tiny bits of purple all over it. Then the family computer with an integrated VIA graphics chip. No luck, it could not load the X server.

Then it came to my normal, main Kubuntu machine. Even with an old Geforce 4 Ti4200 plugged in, it works absolutely amazing. These Kororaa guys have a thing for OSX-rip offs, but DAMN :)

The coolness factor of showing this CD to friends is just awesome!

GeneralZod
March 9th, 2006, 10:34 AM
I just upgraded to Kubuntu Flight 4 at the weekend, and was very pleased to see that my ancient laptop with its Savage card had working DRI out of the box. I think I'll try Kororaa on there this evening - you never know, it might work!

Edit:

No, it didn't :( My FX5200 desktop works beautifully, though! \\:D/

Edit2:

Wow - I can't believe how smooth this is - it's wonderful!

aerials
March 9th, 2006, 10:37 AM
I tested it out yesterday with my Thinkpad T43p and its ATI FireGL V3200 (M24) chip. On the first run, it worked quite well, only some weird rendering errors around the mouse pointer from time to time. But after about 15 minutes, the computer was suddenly locked, I had to shut it down the hard way.
On the second try, I could only open the applications menu and my machine was locked again :rolleyes:
I hope it's a LiveCD problem, since I'm going to try out Xgl on Dapper as soon as my exams are over next week.
But after what I've seen in those 15 minutes, waiting gets even harder :mrgreen:

nalgene
March 9th, 2006, 11:14 AM
Thx for the link if this the future of ubuntu cool stuff.. It worked on my system that has an ati 9600 card. unlike my attempt a few months ago to get shadows and transpercys to work with breezzy. cool stuff..

DaMasta
March 9th, 2006, 12:00 PM
Am I the only one that doesn't see a point in a cube desktop? Seems pretty useless to me. Unless I'm just missing something. Someone please tell me what the magic is.

Arktis
March 9th, 2006, 12:13 PM
Am I the only one that doesn't see a point in a cube desktop? Seems pretty useless to me. Unless I'm just missing something. Someone please tell me what the magic is.
Shoo. :p

Why does OSX have all kinds of wacky effects for otherwise normal operations? Or Vista? Why does ANY OS have extra effects for anything? Hmm? Answer that question and you'll have it figured out.

Anyways, I like what I've seen form this live cd so far. I've noticed a redraw problem when viewing the xgl demo video though. And the spinning cube is fantastic!

For those still wondering about things like how to spin the cube and such, there is a list of commands on the ubuntu wiki howto page for xgl.

https://wiki.ubuntu.com/XglHowto

Jucato
March 9th, 2006, 12:23 PM
Use for the spinning cube? Make switching virtual desktops a bit more fun :D
Though what I really find weird is having your window split up between two desktops...
I'm also wondering, a cube has 6 faces. But what if you only had 4 virtual desktops (like me?). or what if you had more than 6? :D

Arktis
March 9th, 2006, 12:49 PM
I'll bet you can have up to 12 on a dual screen setup.

Oh and if you have less than 6 virtual desktops, then you simply won't be able to rotate the cube to the sides without desktops.

nocturn
March 9th, 2006, 01:02 PM
Downloading is so sssssssslowww

It's been at it for hours now and I have less then 30 MB ...

MetalMusicAddict
March 9th, 2006, 01:17 PM
Weird. I got it in 2 hrs and uploaded at 45kbps all knight. Make sure all your port settings are right.

jc87
March 9th, 2006, 01:41 PM
I have an Ati Radeon 9250 , did anyone get it to work on this crappy ATI video card (or a similar one)?

nocturn
March 9th, 2006, 02:04 PM
Weird. I got it in 2 hrs and uploaded at 45kbps all knight. Make sure all your port settings are right.

I'm unfortunately not using the Bittorrent. My ISP has a download cap (10 GB), which is bad enough. But my monthly upstream is limited to 1.5 GB. If I leave bitttorrent open to long, my account will be locked for the remainder of the month.

Bandit
March 9th, 2006, 03:02 PM
I have an Ati Radeon 9250 , did anyone get it to work on this crappy ATI video card (or a similar one)?
It wouldnt work on mine either. Lets hope its something we dont have any problems with in Dapper.

Klaidas
March 9th, 2006, 03:27 PM
XGL demo CD? Woot, must try it out! \\:D/

Jucato
March 9th, 2006, 04:10 PM
Not actually an XGL demo CD. More of a Linux distro (Kororaa) live CD with a working XGL. Credit still goes to the distro people. :D

Bandit
March 9th, 2006, 04:33 PM
Noticed many people talk about XGL in Dapper. Will it be included on the CD or repositores? OR neither? Whats the current scoop on this?
This XGL live CD is awesome...

jc87
March 9th, 2006, 04:39 PM
This XGL live CD is awesome...

But did you tried again and this time worked , or are you just saying that for saying:rolleyes: ?

Bandit
March 9th, 2006, 04:49 PM
But did you tried again and this time worked , or are you just saying that for saying:rolleyes: ?
It worked on my wifes PC. I have a FX5200 card in it..
It didnt like my radeon 9200 in my PC. :)

Jucato
March 9th, 2006, 04:54 PM
UPDATE!!
I just ran the live CD on my wifes PC (Celeron 2.93GHz / FX5200 128MB-DDR / 512MB DDR-333) It ran like a dream. Very very fluid and fast... Totally puts OSX to shame.. No lie..
If I can get all this to work in Dapper after its released I may just put my FX5500 256MB back in my system..

I guess this means he did.

EDIT: he beat me to it :D
Btw, there are threads around about Dapper and XGL. I guess it's in the repos? Haven't tried Dapper out so I'm not certain. :D

Lux Perpetua
March 9th, 2006, 05:54 PM
I tested it out yesterday with my Thinkpad T43p and its ATI FireGL V3200 (M24) chip. On the first run, it worked quite well, only some weird rendering errors around the mouse pointer from time to time. But after about 15 minutes, the computer was suddenly locked, I had to shut it down the hard way.
On the second try, I could only open the applications menu and my machine was locked again :rolleyes:
I hope it's a LiveCD problem, since I'm going to try out Xgl on Dapper as soon as my exams are over next week.
But after what I've seen in those 15 minutes, waiting gets even harder :mrgreen:I'm sorry to say the problems are not limited to the Live CD. Hard Locks were characteristic of my Xgl experience on Dapper. I have the same computer as you (same ThinkPad version, same graphics card).

Don't let this stop you, though; who knows, maybe you'll have better luck.

PhoenixP3K
March 9th, 2006, 06:24 PM
Noticed many people talk about XGL in Dapper. Will it be included on the CD or repositores? OR neither? Whats the current scoop on this?
This XGL live CD is awesome...
I was looking for a confirmation on that it would be released with Dapper. I saw info on the Wiki concerning Flight4 but it did not mention that it would in fact be included. Besides from what I heard Xgl is only at it's debut, like 0.1

Anyways it worked great and I was amazed.

My card was listed, I'm only reposting that info I found in a comment on the Live CD digg info (http://digg.com/linux_unix/Xgl_Live_CD): Original poster mrfx (http://www.digg.com/users/mrfx)


Cards found to be supported

* nVidia GeForce 256 Pro (with nvidia-glx-1.0.7174)
* nVidia GeForce 2 Go 16Mb (with nvidia-glx-1.0.8178)
* nVidia GeForce 2 MX 200 (with latest nvidia-glx-1.0.8178 and nvidia-kernel-1.0.8178-r3)
* nVidia GeForce 2 MX 400 (with latest nvidia-glx-1.0.8178 and nvidia-kernel-1.0.8178-r3)
* nVidia GeForce 2 MX 440 (with latest nvidia-glx-1.0.8178 and nvidia-kernel-1.0.8178-r3)
* nVidia GeForce 2 Pro (with nvidia-glx-1.0.7174)
* nVidia GeForce 3 (with nvidia-glx-1.0.8178-r3)
* nVidia GeForce 3 Ti 200 (with latest nvidia-glx-1.0.8178 and nvidia-kernel-1.0.8178-r3, no direct rendering)
* nVidia GeForce 3 Ti 500 (with latest nvidia-glx-1.0.8178 and nvidia-kernel-1.0.8178-r3)
* nVidia GeForce 4 MX 420 (with latest nvidia-glx-1.0.8178 and nvidia-kernel-1.0.8178-r3)
* nVidia GeForce 4 MX 440 (with latest nvidia-glx-1.0.8178)
* nVidia GeForce 4 Go 440 64Mb (with latest nvidia-glx-1.0.8178 and nvidia-kernel-1.0.8178-r3)
* nVidia GeForce 4 MX 4000 64Mb (with latest nvidia-glx-1.0.8178 and nvidia-kernel-1.0.8178-r3)
* nVidia GeForce 4 Ti 4200 128Mb (with latest nvidia-glx-1.0.8178 and nvidia-kernel-1.0.8178-r3)
* nVidia GeForce 4 Ti 4600 128Mb (with latest nvidia-glx-1.0.8178 and nvidia-kernel-1.0.8178-r3)
* nVidia GeForce FX5200 (with latest nvidia-glx-1.0.8178 and nvidia-kernel-1.0.8178-r3, no direct rendering)
* nVidia GeForce FX5500 (with latest nvidia-glx-1.0.8178 and nvidia-kernel-1.0.8178-r3, no direct rendering)
* nVidia GeForce FX5600 (with latest nvidia-glx-1.0.8178 and nvidia-kernel-1.0.8178-r3, no direct rendering)
* nVidia GeForce FX5700 (with latest nvidia-glx-1.0.8178 and nvidia-kernel-1.0.8178-r3)
* nVidia GeForce FX5700 LE (with latest nvidia-glx-1.0.8178 and nvidia-kernel-1.0.8178-r3)
* nVidia GeForce FX5900 XT (with latest nvidia-glx-1.0.8178 and nvidia-kernel-1.0.8178-r3)
* nVidia GeForce 6200 (with latest nvidia-glx-1.0.8178 and nvidia-kernel-1.0.8178-r3)
* nVidia GeForce 6600 GT (with latest nvidia-glx-1.0.8178 and nvidia-kernel-1.0.8178-r3)
* nVidia GeForce 6700 XL (with latest nvidia-glx-1.0.8178 and nvidia-kernel-1.0.8178-r3)
* nVidia GeForce 6800 (with latest nvidia-glx-1.0.8178 and nvidia-kernel-1.0.8178-r3, no direct rendering)
* nVidia GeForce 6800 LE (with latest nvidia-glx-1.0.8178 and nvidia-kernel-1.0.8178-r3)
* nVidia GeForce 6800 GT (with latest nvidia-glx-1.0.8178 and nvidia-kernel-1.0.8178-r3)
* nVidia GeForce 6800 GS (with latest nvidia-glx-1.0.8178 and nvidia-kernel-1.0.8178-r3)
* nVidia GeForce 6800 Go (with latest nvidia-glx-1.0.8178 and nvidia-kernel-1.0.8178-r3)
* nVidia GeForce 6800 XT (installed the nvidia.com drivers (don't know if i have the normal 2 installed, heh)
* nVidia GeForce 6800 XT (with latest nvidia-glx-1.0.8178 and nvidia-kernel-1.0.8178-r3)
* nVidia GeForce 7300 GS (with latest nvidia-glx-1.0.8178 and nvidia-kernel-1.0.8178-r3)
* nVidia GeForce 7800 GT (with latest nvidia-glx-1.0.8178 and nvidia-kernel-1.0.8178-r3)
* nVidia GeForce 7800 GTX (with latest nvidia-glx-1.0.8178 and nvidia-kernel-1.0.8178-r3)
* nVidia GeForce 7800 GTX Go (with latest nvidia-glx-1.0.8178)
* nVidia Quadro FX4000 (with latest nvidia-glx-1.0.8178 and nvidia-kernel-1.0.8178-r3)

* ATI Technologies Inc R200 BC [Radeon All in Wonder 8500] (with xf86-video-ati-6.5.7.3, only rootless)
* ATI Technologies Inc RV280 [Mobility Radeon 9200SE M9+] (with xorg-drivers, tested on iBook PPC)
* ATI Technologies Inc RV300 NE [Radeon 9700 Generic] (with ati-drivers-8.22.5)
* ATI Technologies Inc RV350 [Mobility Radeon 9600 M10] (with ati-drivers-8.22.5)
* ATI Technologies Inc RV350 AS [Radeon 9550] (with ati-drivers 8.22.5)
* ATI Technologies Inc RV350 AR [Radeon 9600] (with ati-drivers 8.22.5)
* ATI Technologies Inc RV350 AP [Radeon 9600Pro] (with ati-drivers 8.22.5)
* ATI Technologies Inc RV350 [Radeon 9800Pro] (with ati-drivers 8.22.5)
* ATI Technologies Inc RV370 5B60 [Radeon X300 (PCIE)] (with ati-drivers 8.22.5, though I do experience random lockups)
* ATI Technologies Inc RV380 0x3e50 [Radeon X600] (with ati-drivers 8.22.5, OpenGL apps/MPlayer crash X, screenshots garbled)
* ATI Technologies Inc [Radeon X700] (with ati-drivers 8.22.5 on amd64 all seems ok)
* ATI Technologies Inc R420 JK [Radeon X800] (with ati-drivers 8.22.5, OpenGL windows render black, MPlayer and XScreenSaver crash X)
* ATI Technologies Inc Radeon R200 QL [Radeon 8500 LE] (with xf86-video-ati-6.5.7.3)
* ATI Technologies Inc Radeon XPRESS 200M 5955 (PCIE) (with ati-drivers 8.22.6)
* ATI Technologies Inc RV350 [Mobility Radeon 9700] (with ati-drivers 8.22.5)
* ATI Technologies Inc RV200 [Mobility Radeon 7500] (with xf86-video-ati-6.5.7.3, works slow with 24 bpp, flickering, some bitmaps not redrawn properly, slow video, black windows with 16 bpp)
* ATI Technologies Inc Radeon RV200 QW [Radeon 7500] (with xf86-video-ati-6.5.7.3, no direct rendering, slow video)
* Intel Corporation 82852/855GM Integrated Grapics Device (with latest drivers)
* ATI Technologies Inc M10 NT [FireGL Mobility T2] (with kororaa-xgl-demo-livecd-0.1)

[edit]
Cards seemingly unsupported

* ATI Technologies Inc R200 BC [Radeon All in Wonder 8500] (with ati-drivers-8.22.5, distorted screen)
* ATI Technologies Inc Radeon R200 QL [Radeon 8500 LE] (with ati-drivers-8.22.5, distorted screen)
* ATI Technologies Inc Radeon R250 Lf [FireGL 9000] (rev 02) (distorted screen) (works for me with Xorg open source drivers -Cardoe@gentoo) (Xgl works with both drivers but compiz returns distorted screen with ati-drivers-8.22.05 or latest 8.23.7 from ati. Missing power of two with open-source drivers)
* ATI Technologies Inc Radeon 9200 Pro (RV280 5960) (with ati-drivers-8.22.05, distorted screen)
* ATI Technologies Inc Radeon 9200SE (RV280 5964) (with ati-drivers-8.22.05, distorted screen)
* ATI Technologies Inc Radeon R200 [FireGL 8800] (with ati-drivers-8.22.5, distorted screen)
* ATI Technologies Inc [Radeon X600] (Kororaa XGL Live CD 0.1, distorted screen)
* nVidia GeForce 4 Go 420 32Mb (with latest nvidia-glx-1.0.8178 and nvidia-kernel-1.0.8178-r3)(problems in refreshing windows content)

Your card needs to be not too recent, nor too old. My Radeon 9550 seems like a perfect fit.

jasay
March 9th, 2006, 06:25 PM
Noticed many people talk about XGL in Dapper. Will it be included on the CD or repositores? OR neither? Whats the current scoop on this?
This XGL live CD is awesome...Xgl and compiz are in the dapper universe repo right now, but are outdated. E.g. compiz is version 0.0.2 instead of 0.0.6, etc. Hopefully the devs update them as there has been some stabilization and a few new things. Our own MacSlow has submitted skydome for example (a plugin for cube/rotate that lets you dictate the background behind the cube.) pictures (http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=792739&postcount=88)

aerials
March 9th, 2006, 08:56 PM
I'm sorry to say the problems are not limited to the Live CD. Hard Locks were characteristic of my Xgl experience on Dapper. I have the same computer as you (same ThinkPad version, same graphics card).

Don't let this stop you, though; who knows, maybe you'll have better luck.


That's bad news :(
But today I ran it for about 1.5 hours without problems and torturing the whole Xgl toys much harder, so there seems to be hope.
And the session didn't end in a lock up by the way, I just didn't have the time to play around anylonger.

cbudden
March 10th, 2006, 12:21 AM
It is soooo shiney, I just wish I could get it to work on Ubuntu (ATI mobility raderon 9700)

Bandit
March 10th, 2006, 12:27 AM
It is soooo shiney, I just wish I could get it to work on Ubuntu (ATI mobility raderon 9700)
Huh?? Work on Ubuntu??
The CD is a liveCD.. Reboot your PC with it in the CD drive. If you have your BIOS setup to boot from CD it will load up the CD. The CD is a whole other Operating System.

Jucato
March 10th, 2006, 02:34 AM
Well, he could get XGL to work on Ubuntu, but he would have to install Dapper Flight-4 :D

Bandit
March 10th, 2006, 03:04 AM
Well, he could get XGL to work on Ubuntu, but he would have to install Dapper Flight-4 :D
I had some other guy on the SuSE forums saying he couldnt get the CD to install on SuSE!! :confused:

I wonder what part of LiveCD didnt they understand..
I guess I just have been getting overly frustraited lately..
Guess the whole CNR thing got me bent out of shape...
I need a Beer... Why cant friday come a day sooner!!!!

Jucato
March 10th, 2006, 03:31 AM
LoL. Maybe he got to excited and got carried away. Or thought it was a live CD installer. Or he just... I won't go there. :D

Just finished downloading Kororaa. Yay me! I'll try it out in a while. Just hope it works, though my card is listed in the supported cards, I hope my system can handle it. I tried the Looking Glass 3D live cd, and I could barely make anything run. :(

darkoptix
March 10th, 2006, 03:38 AM
I had an orgasm when I played around with this...

bluevoodoo1
March 10th, 2006, 03:49 AM
I tried it, all those bouncy windows kind of made me dizzy...

Bandit
March 10th, 2006, 04:29 AM
I placed my FX5500 nVidia card back in my system and removed my Radeon 9200.
Now it runs on my system.
It is awesome.. This will give OSX a run for its money. Hands down...

K.Mandla
March 10th, 2006, 05:52 AM
Wow. This is great stuff. Much more stable than my hacked-together Dapper attempt. I'm embarrassed now.

Of course, I don't know how to work portage or emerge, and I've got no wireless, and I can't get it to run in native resolution, so I don't know how long it will last for me. Sure is sweet though!

Rev. Nathan
March 10th, 2006, 06:09 AM
Will definately be checking this out. Look at that install! Grueling!

anil_robo
March 10th, 2006, 09:30 AM
I have intel i915GM (no ATI or nVidia for me) :(
Kororaa live cd failed - intel isn't supported :(
My friend's sub $500 laptop runs it amazingly fine though, just because he has ATI mobility.

Looks like it's time to shell out some bucks!!! :(

If someone got xgl working on i915 please lemme know so that I can save my bucks for my books :(

NoWhereMan
March 10th, 2006, 09:33 AM
d'oh, radeon 7500 here (and old s3 chip on laptop) and no luck either. tried switching to "ati" driver for the graphic card, but still it says it fails to load the GLCore and glx modules :(

Jucato
March 10th, 2006, 10:00 AM
dang! I thought it would work! But somehow, it doesn't stop reading my cd-rom even after it had loaded the desktop, and 5-10 minutes after, it still hasn't stopped reading, not allowing me to run anything, much less shutdown gracefully... :( I'll retry in a bit.

Although it successully identified my video card and given me my default 1024x768 resolution. The first ever Live CD that has ever done that for me. No, not Knoppix (which I'm using now, as a Live CD, under 800x600 resolution) nor MEPIS (which requires me to use the VESA option to give me a good resolution). Oh well, gonna wait for Dapper then... :(

Alpha_toxic
March 10th, 2006, 02:26 PM
dang! I thought it would work! But somehow, it doesn't stop reading my cd-rom even after it had loaded the desktop, and 5-10 minutes after, it still hasn't stopped reading, not allowing me to run anything, much less shutdown gracefully...

Same here :( . I have a GF5500FX, it recognizes it and everything seems fine, but...

patbuntu
March 10th, 2006, 02:40 PM
The live cd worked perfectly on my system:

Athalon 2400+
1 gig ram
Geforce 4 Ti4800 SE

How do I get this on breezy?

-Pat

Jucato
March 10th, 2006, 02:43 PM
The live cd worked perfectly on my system:

Athalon 2400+
1 gig ram
Geforce 4 Ti4800 SE

How do I get this on breezy?

-Pat
you can't, without massive compiling/recompiling and stuff. Or so I heard.
The best way would be to get Dapper. There's a HOWTO for Xgl on Dapper somewhere here.

Klaidas
March 10th, 2006, 03:10 PM
Finally, some mirros added. It was dowloading at 4 kb/s from softpedia !! :confused:
Now I'm downloading @ 40 kb/s

Klaidas
March 10th, 2006, 06:41 PM
I have just rebooted after testing out the LiveCD.
XGL was like... WOW... Amazed :eek:
It was soooo cool :)
Somehow, it managed to work with my old nVidia GeForce4 MX 420 (64MB).
I have taken some screenshots, so now I'll show them to my friend and say something like:

Do that with your windows... Oh by the way: it's gonna be on Ubuntu Dapper Drake! :mrgreen:

Screenshot (http://stuff.klaidas.tinkle.lt/xgl.png)
Screenshot2 (http://stuff.klaidas.tinkle.lt/xgl2.jpg)
Screenshot3 (http://stuff.klaidas.tinkle.lt/xgl3.jpg)

My system is:
nNVIDIA GeFrorce4 MX 420 64 MB
512 MB of RAM
Intel Pentium4 1,7 GHz

Killerah
March 10th, 2006, 06:43 PM
Awesome! Sweet live CD! I'm so glad somebody finally made it easy to try out XGL! XGL is so impressive, it didn't crash once (though I did get this weird glitch where the screen would go black when switching desktops instead of spinning once), and it seems faster than my install of ubuntu is without it! In my opinion it looks better than Vista or OSX! This is truly the next generation in... umm... shinyness.

Athlon 64 2800+
Radeon 9600 SE (Sucky Edition)
1 GB DDR 400

ssam
March 10th, 2006, 07:04 PM
If someone got xgl working on i915 please lemme know so that I can save my bucks for my books :(

http://gentoo-wiki.com/HOWTO_XGL seems to be the main list of which card work.

"Intel Corporation 82852/855GM Integrated Grapics Device (with latest drivers)" is mentioned, though i don't now how that compares with a i915.

mstlyevil
March 10th, 2006, 07:26 PM
When Dapper is released, XGL/Compiz is going to be the biggest wow factor of the entire package. I have been using it exclusively for a few weeks now. It is very stable for a alpha release. XGL/Compiz was the very thing that made me want to use FLT 4 of Dapper.

Klaidas
March 10th, 2006, 07:35 PM
How would XGL be installed to dapper? (The stable release of dapper I mean :) )
Is it like marking packages in Synaptic and it's all, or will it be a lot of advanced-users-only compilations?

mstlyevil
March 10th, 2006, 08:00 PM
How would XGL be installed to dapper? (The stable release of dapper I mean :) )
Is it like marking packages in Synaptic and it's all, or will it be a lot of advanced-users-only compilations?

It wont be installed by default but it is easily downloaded and installed. It is available in synaptic for Dapper and is simple enough to install as long as you follow the how to's for your particular video card. I suggest you go to the Dapper part of this forum and check out the how-to's on it to see how easy it is to install. You don't have to compile anything for Nvidia cards but you do have to make some minor changes to your xorg file and add a few simple scripts. The how to's make that all a breeze to the point a new user could do it relatively easy.

Bandit
March 10th, 2006, 08:03 PM
It wont be installed by default but it is easily downloaded and installed. It is available in synaptic for Dapper and is simple enough to install as long as you follow the how to's for your particular video card. I suggest you go to the Dapper part of this forum and check out the how-to's on it to see how easy it is to install. You don't have to compile anything for Nvidia cards but you do have to make some minor changes to your xorg file and add a few simple scripts. The how to's make that all a breeze to the point a new user could do it relatively easy.
I cant wait until Dapper is released.... This is going to be so kewl...
Every Mac and Win user on the planet will secretly envy us :D

mstlyevil
March 10th, 2006, 08:14 PM
I cant wait until Dapper is released.... This is going to be so kewl...
Every Mac and Win user on the planet will secretly envy us :D

Why wait? jump in now! The water is fine. :mrgreen:

Bandit
March 10th, 2006, 08:20 PM
Why wait? jump in now! The water is fine. :mrgreen:
I gots lots of music and stuff on my box. So its kinda of a hassle.
I can have ubuntu set up in about 45minutes max. Themed out and ready to go.
But copying all my videos, music and document files, plus tweeking takes a few hours.
Plus I have to back everything up before I installed it.
Not to mention I am looking forward to Gnome 2.14.
Have they got that in the repositories yet?
Cheers,
Joey

RaptorRaider
March 10th, 2006, 08:43 PM
Amazing stuff.
Would've made an XGL live CD myself if I could.

I'm noticing tons of bugs though, some of which are most probably related to my ATI videocard.

Oh and can anyone tell me what the default "Super-key" is?

Edit: Added a screenshot to visualize problems. What happens is that the mouse leaves a "trail" (windows too, but less). Hope it will be useful to someone.

latrine
March 10th, 2006, 08:51 PM
I'm baffled!

Great balls of firefox...

mstlyevil
March 10th, 2006, 09:02 PM
I gots lots of music and stuff on my box. So its kinda of a hassle.
I can have ubuntu set up in about 45minutes max. Themed out and ready to go.
But copying all my videos, music and document files, plus tweeking takes a few hours.
Plus I have to back everything up before I installed it.
Not to mention I am looking forward to Gnome 2.14.
Have they got that in the repositories yet?
Cheers,
Joey

Not yet on gnome 2.14. That will probally not be ready until the release canidate is out would be my guess. But I am not a dev so only they would really know fer sure.

Klaidas
March 10th, 2006, 09:11 PM
Super-Key is the Windows key on your keyboard

GreyFox503
March 15th, 2006, 11:50 AM
Wow! I don't know how I missed this thread, but I just found this liveCD elsewhere and tried it out. This is way better than the videos make it seem!

I didn't used to care much about eye candy, but I am a believer now. Ran super smooth on my machine. I expected it to be kind of glitchy, but nothing of the sort. I was even able to play a video across the cube like in the demo! Sweetness.

This is exactly the kind of thing that makes a huge impression on new users. Like it or not, this could majorly propel linux to other computer users who might not otherwise notice it.

I wish the window minimizing effect was more like a genie, though. And my "super" key didn't work, but that didn't suprise, because I haven't gotten it to work with any other distro before.

Luffield
March 16th, 2006, 04:51 PM
I finally had some time to give Kororaa a try. It works surprisingly well on my geriatric machine (1GHz Pentium3, GeForece 2 MX/400 or something like that). Almost everything works like it should, except the Super/Windows key that doesn't seem to do anything, and the rotating cube that sometimes doesn't work - I get a black screen for a second and then the new dektop.

Damn, just when I was about to write that other than these small glitches all is well, Firefox froze for a few sconds an it's now all gray. I can't make it look normal again, great :D

Anyway, I'm very impressed with this live CD, and I'm looking forward to see this technology on Ubuntu Dapper+1. I'm not yet comfortable with installing things like XGL myself.

I do, however, hope that new effects will show up soon, as there are some effects that I'm not too happy with - like the wobbly tooltips for example. I find them too distracting.