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scouser73
February 18th, 2010, 09:32 AM
I've noticed quite a few people slate Flash, can someone please explain what the problem is people are having with it.

Grenage
February 18th, 2010, 09:41 AM
It's an overused technology with poor Linux clients.

kernelhaxor
February 18th, 2010, 09:45 AM
It's buggy, causes crashes and consumes a lot of sysmted resources. IMO, it could be implemented better.
Though I don't like Apple, I support them abandoning Flash.

woodmaster
February 18th, 2010, 10:05 AM
works fine here...just my experience. no crashes/bugs

kellemes
February 18th, 2010, 10:14 AM
I love Flash, never had issues with it.

3rdalbum
February 18th, 2010, 10:19 AM
It's not open source
It doesn't use CPU resources efficiently
It's always behind the times in Linux support (there's no VA-API or VDPAU support in Flash Player, but there is in Gnash)
It's often misused by web developers.

madnessjack
February 18th, 2010, 10:23 AM
I've got this PC, it runs lightning fast on Vista

Boot up Jaunty or Karmic and the frame-rate isn't sufficient

I guess others have similar issues

scouser73
February 18th, 2010, 12:21 PM
works fine here...just my experience. no crashes/bugs

Same here.

Nerd King
February 18th, 2010, 01:05 PM
Like anything Adobe does it's very very bloated (look how fireworks and dreamweaver have bloated out since macromedia were bought out, and in Windows-land compare Acrobat Reader to Foxit). Adobe don't know how to make efficient and secure code. That's a problem for all of us.

Grenage
February 18th, 2010, 01:28 PM
works fine here...just my experience. no crashes/bugs

Well as long as it's fine on your machine, there is obviously no problem.

dragos240
February 18th, 2010, 01:34 PM
It uses a lot of system resources, as said before. Honestly, it's just really a pain to use.

madnessjack
February 18th, 2010, 01:46 PM
Well as long as it's fine on your machine, there is obviously no problem.
Haha, quote of the day

samh785
February 18th, 2010, 02:10 PM
Adobe don't know how to make efficient and secure code. That's a problem for all of us.
I wouldn't necessarily say that; it's more that they don't feel like spending the money to do so.

point_man
February 18th, 2010, 02:15 PM
My friend calls it 'Flush', because of its closed source nature.

I am just a normal user and what I don't like is that more often than not I experience crashes because of badly written flash apps. That should not be allowed to happen.

Psumi
February 18th, 2010, 04:40 PM
1. It's not open source.
2. It has consumed 50-60 percent of my CPU.
3. It flickers.

purgatori
February 18th, 2010, 08:28 PM
It's a buggy resource hog that doesn't support my keyboard shortcuts for navigation in Vimperator. I quite like it for video, but that's only because embedded ogg hasn't caught on yet.

phrostbyte
February 18th, 2010, 08:58 PM
I think most of the problems can be summed up as thus:

NO HARDWARE ACCELERATION (not even through Xv)

Combine "no hardware acceleration" with "H.264 decoding" (not well known for it's computational efficiency), and you have a recipe for fail. :p

Grenage
February 18th, 2010, 09:25 PM
Full HD video works fine on one of my laptops, yet flash does not. Conclusion - Flash client sucks.

FuturePilot
February 18th, 2010, 10:15 PM
Because it sucks in every way possible.


Eats CPUs
Misused
Buggy
There always seems to be a new exploit found in it
No hardware acceleration
Poor Linux version (I've even heard it's not too great on OS X either)

purgatori
February 18th, 2010, 10:22 PM
Because it sucks in every way possible.


Eats CPUs
Misused
Buggy
There always seems to be a new exploit found in it
No hardware acceleration
Poor Linux version (I've even heard it's not too great on OS X either)



Yup, that about sums it up. Out of all the issus you identified though, I think its misuse is probably the one that bothers me the most. Flash interfaces are uniformly horrible when it comes to content navigation, and I'll often avoid visiting official sites for companies/movies/games, etc. that I want to find information for because I know that I'll probably have to suffer through all sorts of Flash nonsense. Plenty of other web technologies is similarly abused when, in most cases, plain 'ole HTML would do the job just fine, but Flash is easily the most obtrusive and obnoxious of the lot.