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shadowlands
February 13th, 2010, 03:49 AM
not sure how to post this. I just can not get the system to boot. After it tries I get the following message:[ Minimal BASH-like line editing is supported. For the first word, TAB lists possible command completions. Anywhere else TAB lists possible device/file completion.]

Sh: grub>


How do I correct this so I can boot up my system? Thanksin advance for the much needed help!!:KS:popcorn:

yeats
February 13th, 2010, 01:22 PM
You will probably benefit from this... I'm assuming you're using Karmic (GRUB 2)... previous versions will be GRUB 1:

http://grub.enbug.org/Manual#GrubShell

shadowlands
February 13th, 2010, 07:23 PM
I will read it and try it. I am dual booting with windows XP. I can get in to XP but I can not get in to Ubuntu. boot up
You will probably benefit from this... I'm assuming you're using Karmic (GRUB 2)... previous versions will be GRUB 1:

http://grub.enbug.org/Manual#GrubShell

luckydeveloper
February 13th, 2010, 07:50 PM
You will probably benefit from this... I'm assuming you're using Karmic (GRUB 2)... previous versions will be GRUB 1:

http://grub.enbug.org/Manual#GrubShell

if you are talking about ubuntu 9.10, you can

Press and Hold down Shift during your system boot. You will enter Grub menu then. If you can see your operating systems in that menu, choose one and press enter.

Hope it helps

shadowlands
February 14th, 2010, 02:49 AM
Yes, I am using karmic and this started after it was updated. last night. I see the choices and if I select XP it loads up no problem.

My problem is getting the Ubuntu to load up to the log in screen.

I tried to follow the direction in the link and it looks like the problem that happened a while back and in order to correct it we used " linux /boot/vmlinuz-2.6.31-14-generic root=/dev/sda3 loop=ubuntu/disk/root.disks/root.disk ro"


"initrd /boot/initrd.img-2.6.31-14-generic"

"boot"

That did not work.:confused:


so what are the numbers should I put in to get it to work. That is if I am correct with my line of thinking.

Can someone please help me out????

shadowlands
February 14th, 2010, 03:57 AM
How do I load the kernel. I typed boot and the message displayed on the computer was kernel not loaded. I am using wubi and it is XP.

Can some one please help me. I looked back at the archive and i followed the directions and I still can not boot in to ubuntu. Help please!!!:KS:popcorn:

meierfra.
February 14th, 2010, 04:02 AM
I am using wubi

Have a look at this how-to:

https://sourceforge.net/apps/mediawiki/bootinfoscript/index.php?title=Boot_Problems:Wubi_9.10

shadowlands
February 14th, 2010, 04:22 AM
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So what do I use to open the file/ Thanks for your response!!:KS
Have a look at this how-to:

https://sourceforge.net/apps/mediawiki/bootinfoscript/index.php?title=Boot_Problems:Wubi_9.10

meierfra.
February 14th, 2010, 04:25 AM
Don't open that file. Just move it to "C:\" to overwrite your current wubildr.

shadowlands
February 14th, 2010, 05:14 AM
tried it and I still can not boot in to Ubuntu.

meierfra.
February 14th, 2010, 05:24 AM
tried it and I still can not boot in to Ubuntu.
Darn.That works in almost all cases. Lets have a better look at your setup.

Follow these instructions (http://bootinfoscript.sourceforge.net/) to run the boot info script and post the RESULTS.txt:

shadowlands
February 14th, 2010, 06:07 AM
And I can do this from grub? Not sure how to get the answers you want to help me help my self.silly me i can do this in windows.

shadowlands
February 14th, 2010, 06:21 AM
I down loaded it but what do I use to open it with or how do I get it to

shadowlands
February 14th, 2010, 06:30 AM
I am going to try this agin in the morning.

meierfra.
February 14th, 2010, 06:42 AM
And I can do this from grub? Not sure how to get the answers you want to help me help my self.silly me i can do this in windows.

Sorry, I was very busy with a different case and forgot to tell you:

You will have to boot from an Ubuntu LiveCD. Then follow the instruction from the link.


I am going to try this agin in the morning
Thats' fine. I'll be here.

shadowlands
February 14th, 2010, 04:23 PM
I do not have a live disk.
Sorry, I was very busy with a different case and forgot to tell you:

You will have to boot from an Ubuntu LiveCD. Then follow the instruction from the link.


Thats' fine. I'll be here.

meierfra.
February 14th, 2010, 05:44 PM
I do not have a live disk.
That will make it difficult to solve your problem. If you have a CD drive, I suggest to download and burn a LiveCD. If you don't have a CD drive, you should create a LiveUSB.

But let's see whether your are able to manually boot into Wubi:
Try this at the "grub" prompt:




linux /vmlinuz root=/dev/sda1 loop=/ubuntu/disks/root.disk ro
initrd /initrd.img
boot
You might have to try different values for "sda1". It has to be the device name for the partition containing Wubi. Usually it is "sda1" or "sda2".


If this boot you into Wubi, open a terminal in Wubi and type


sudo update-grub
Reboot and see whether running update-grub solved your problem. If not, boot into Wubi as above, and then follow the instruction to run the boot_info_script and post the RESULTS.txt


If you were not able to boot into Wubi, report any error message you got. Also type


ls

set

at the "grub>" prompt and post the output.

shadowlands
February 14th, 2010, 07:46 PM
Thanks for comig back to help me. I am trying the link again to for wubildr and if that does not work I am going with your last suggestion.
That will make it difficult to solve your problem. If you have a CD drive, I suggest to download and burn a LiveCD. If you don't have a CD drive, you should create a LiveUSB.

But let's see whether your are able to manually boot into Wubi:
Try this at the "grub" prompt:




linux /vmlinuz root=/dev/sda1 loop=/ubuntu/disks/root.disk ro
initrd /initrd.img
boot
You might have to try different values for "sda1". It has to be the device name for the partition containing Wubi. Usually it is "sda1" or "sda2".


If this boot you into Wubi, open a terminal in Wubi and type


sudo update-grub
Reboot and see whether running update-grub solved your problem. If not, boot into Wubi as above, and then follow the instruction to run the boot_info_script and post the RESULTS.txt


If you were not able to boot into Wubi, report any error message you got. Also type


ls

set

at the "grub>" prompt and post the output.

shadowlands
February 14th, 2010, 08:10 PM
nothing it says file not founded.

when i type ls in grub I get: (hd0) (hd,5) (hd0,1)













Thanks for comig back to help me. I am trying the link again to for wubildr and if that does not work I am going with your last suggestion.

meierfra.
February 14th, 2010, 08:29 PM
(hd0) (hd,5) (hd0,1)

You have two different partitions. To you know whats on the second partition? I'm asking, since if Wubi is on a separate partition, you will have to put "wubildr" on Wubi partition and not on "C:\".

Did your type


set
at the "grub>" prompt? What was the output?


nothing it says file not founded.

Boot into Window and look for the folder "C:\ubuntu\disks" . Let me know what is in that folder.

oldefoxx
February 14th, 2010, 08:54 PM
I do not have a live disk.
Excuse me for intruding. I never waste time trying to figure out what went wrong, because many things can, computers and software being what they are, so I just try to get back to some previous state. With Ubuntu and other Linux Distros, this means keeping a LiveCD on hand. It does not mean having to start completely over either, as there are ways to preserve what lies within the /home folder, which is all the user accounts and data.

That said, getting back to a LiveCD download state is easy, because as you indicated, XP still starts up, and you just have to remember the steps you went through previously to get the ISO image and burn it to a CD or DVD, as the case may be. It has to be a CD-R disk, not a CDRW, because the CD-R holds 50 Mb more than the CDRW, is much faster, and just about all that space is required.

You can also choose to download and use the alternate ISO image, which presents a few different choices as you start up. It has a recover option as well, but there are no instructions on how to take advantage of this. The boot process is also more text-based, so you can read what you are doing or choosing as you go along.

If you can't burn a CD or DVD for any reason, then there is still hope. I am about to post another thread with a bunch of links to where some people have successfully dealt with an image that is on a hard disk partition. not a CD or DVD. As to setting up your PC to handle this, you still have XP to assist to some extent, and there are versions of Ubuntu that can install and run directly under Windows, which would get you around the lack of a LiveCD temporarily. You can even look at VMWare Player and VirtualBox, or other VM Manager, and do some of this there. You have to know what you are doing though, but it is not impossible. That is why I am offering the links.

Sometimes it is a question of what you really want to do: Identify the problem, so maybe it can be fixed and not bother others later, or just get around the problem so that you can get on with what you are doing.
I've gone both ways in the past, and it really depends on how much someone else is willing to do and how far they are willing to go to help. It generally takes an expert to actually nail a problem, and I will work with experts in this regard, but otherwise I might just report a bug and move on by myself. Your call.

shadowlands
February 14th, 2010, 09:39 PM
in the c drive in the ubuntu file is instal, winboot, ubuntu, uninstall-wubi.
You have two different partitions. To you know whats on the second partition? I'm asking, since if Wubi is on a separate partition, you will have to put "wubildr" on Wubi partition and not on "C:\".

Did your type


set
at the "grub>" prompt? What was the output?


Boot into Window and look for the folder "C:\ubuntu\disks" . Let me know what is in that folder.

shadowlands
February 14th, 2010, 09:49 PM
after typong in ls

(hd0) Hd0,5) hd0,1)

after typing in set
?=0
color_highlight=
pager=
prefix=(hd0,1)/boot/grub
root=hd0,1
show_panic_message=true


That will make it difficult to solve your problem. If you have a CD drive, I suggest to download and burn a LiveCD. If you don't have a CD drive, you should create a LiveUSB.

But let's see whether your are able to manually boot into Wubi:
Try this at the "grub" prompt:




linux /vmlinuz root=/dev/sda1 loop=/ubuntu/disks/root.disk ro
initrd /initrd.img
boot
You might have to try different values for "sda1". It has to be the device name for the partition containing Wubi. Usually it is "sda1" or "sda2".


If this boot you into Wubi, open a terminal in Wubi and type


sudo update-grub
Reboot and see whether running update-grub solved your problem. If not, boot into Wubi as above, and then follow the instruction to run the boot_info_script and post the RESULTS.txt


If you were not able to boot into Wubi, report any error message you got. Also type


ls

set

at the "grub>" prompt and post the output.

shadowlands
February 14th, 2010, 09:57 PM
sudo update-grub

message "Error: unknown command 'sudo'"

Easy Limits
February 14th, 2010, 11:14 PM
Is your computer 32-bit and Wubi is trying to install a X64 version of Ubuntu? This happened to me. Fortunately, I had a i386 ISO on hand.

shadowlands
February 14th, 2010, 11:29 PM
how do i find out what it is. I think it is 32.
Is your computer 32-bit and Wubi is trying to install a X64 version of Ubuntu? This happened to me. Fortunately, I had a i386 ISO on hand.

Easy Limits
February 15th, 2010, 12:07 AM
Do you know what processor (CPU) you have in your computer? If not, can you log in to Windows and check in the device manager?

shadowlands
February 15th, 2010, 12:20 AM
it is a 32 bit ( thank you google gods!!)

Do you know what processor (CPU) you have in your computer? If not, can you log in to Windows and check in the device manager?

Easy Limits
February 15th, 2010, 12:29 AM
You will need to download the i386 (32 bit) version of Ubuntu.

meierfra.
February 15th, 2010, 12:30 AM
in the c drive in the ubuntu file is instal, winboot, ubuntu, uninstall-wubi.

"ubuntu file"? Do you have an "ubuntu" folder on the C:drive?

shadowlands
February 15th, 2010, 12:33 AM
Yes, yes i do !!
"ubuntu file"? Do you have an "ubuntu" folder on the c:drive?

meierfra.
February 15th, 2010, 12:35 AM
But you don't have a folder with the name "disks" inside the ubuntu folder?
Then something went seriously wrong during the installation.

shadowlands
February 15th, 2010, 12:36 AM
no folder with disk in side of it.
But you don't have a folder with the name "disks" inside the ubuntu folder?
Then something went seriously wrong during the installation.

Easy Limits
February 15th, 2010, 12:39 AM
Yes, you do if you used Wubi.

meierfra.
February 15th, 2010, 12:44 AM
I suggest to uninstall Wubi from "Add/Remove" program and try again.

You might consider doing a regular Ubuntu install instead of Wubi. The only reason to use Wubi is that Wubi is easier to install. Once you have problems installing Wubi, you might as well install Ubuntu.

shadowlands
February 15th, 2010, 12:45 AM
kay the folder labeled Ubuntu in the "c" drive has four folder in side of it 1. install 2. winboot 3. ubuntu 4. uninstall-wubi.
Yes, you do if you used Wubi.

Easy Limits
February 15th, 2010, 12:47 AM
If you click on the Wubi installer you can un-install Ubuntu. The Wubi will delete everything. Or, you can Add/Remove programs in the control panel.

shadowlands
February 15th, 2010, 12:51 AM
Then How will I run the program is there no way to save this with out having to start over? I am starting to hate karmic wiath a passion. It has more bugs than the out doors!!

Easy Limits
February 15th, 2010, 12:55 AM
It's not really a Karmic problem but a Wubi problem.

I think you will find doing a fresh install of Ubuntu with a Live CD on a clean partition will brighten your day.

meierfra.
February 15th, 2010, 01:17 AM
Then How will I run the program is there no way to save this with out having to start over?

One thing I forgot to ask. Is this a fresh install? Or did you already run Wubi for a while? To you have any data on Wubi you need to rescue?

If this is a fresh install, starting from scratch is your best options.
If its not a fresh install, we might try to rescue your data, but I don't have much hope.



1. install 2. winboot 3. ubuntu 4. uninstall-wubi.
What is inside "3. ubuntu"?