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Woolio1
February 11th, 2010, 08:25 PM
I'm bored today. Nothing much to do, so I'm going to download a few Ubuntu derivatives.

I have a few criteria for the ones I download:

Must be VERY stable.

Must have OpenOffice preinstalled, or able to be installed easily.

It cannot be Ubuntu satanic Version.

Cannot be Linux Mint, as I do not want to get caught up in that political train-wreck.

It has to be lightweight, and fast. It's going on a netbook, after all.

I suppose a USB creator would be an advantage.


That's about it. If anyone has any suggestions, please post them here. Well, thanks, I guess.

-Ericson

Tibuda
February 11th, 2010, 08:29 PM
I'm bored today. Nothing much to do, so I'm going to download a few Ubuntu derivatives.

...

That's about it. If anyone has any suggestions, please post them here. Well, thanks, I guess.

-Ericson

#! Crunchbang (http://crunchbanglinux.org/), I think it matches almost all your criterias:


Must be VERY stable. check

Must have OpenOffice preinstalled, or able to be installed easily. check, on able to be installed easily

It cannot be Ubuntu satanic Version. check

Cannot be Linux Mint, as I do not want to get caught up in that political train-wreck. check

It has to be lightweight, and fast. It's going on a netbook, after all. check, it is much ligther than xubuntu

I suppose a USB creator would be an advantage. check, compatible with unetbootin (http://www.crunchbanglinux.org/wiki/crunchbang_installation_guide?s[]=unetbootin#creating_a_bootable_live_usb)

Woolio1
February 11th, 2010, 08:36 PM
#! Crunchbang (http://crunchbanglinux.org/), I think it matches almost all your criterias:


I think I'll give it a try. Can't hurt, I've got time. And these roads'll ice over by tomorrow, and I'll have another day to experiment.

Of course, unless I find one that I think is much better than Ubuntu Vanilla 9.10, I'll be going back to that.

Wait... What's the disclaimer at the bottom of the page?


CrunchBang Linux is not recommended for anyone needing a stable system or anyone who is not comfortable running into occasional, even frequent breakage. CrunchBang Linux could possibly make your computer go CRUNCH! BANG! Therefore CrunchBang Linux comes with ABSOLUTELY NO WARRANTY, to the extent permitted by applicable law.

CrunchBang Linux is an unofficial version of Ubuntu. Ubuntu ™ and Canonical ™ are registered trademarks of Canonical Ltd. CrunchBang Linux is not affiliated with Canonical Ltd.

SuperSonic4
February 11th, 2010, 08:37 PM
I'm bored today. Nothing much to do, so I'm going to download a few Ubuntu derivatives.

I have a few criteria for the ones I download:

Must be VERY stable.

Must have OpenOffice preinstalled, or able to be installed easily.

It cannot be Ubuntu satanic Version.

Cannot be Linux Mint, as I do not want to get caught up in that political train-wreck.

It has to be lightweight, and fast. It's going on a netbook, after all.

I suppose a USB creator would be an advantage.


That's about it. If anyone has any suggestions, please post them here. Well, thanks, I guess.

-Ericson

Although not a Ubuntu derivative I'd say Debian fits all your other criteria.

Should be like ubuntu as ubuntu is derived from debian

snowpine
February 11th, 2010, 08:44 PM
Wait... What's the disclaimer at the bottom of the page?

It is a humorous version of Ubuntu's legal disclaimer (http://www.ubuntu.com/legal):


This website and all information, products and services on it are provided on an “as is” basis, without warranty of any kind, either express or implied. Your use of this website is at your own risk. Canonical Ltd. disclaims all warranties, express or implied, including without limitation, warranties of merchantability and fitness for a particular purpose.

Canonical Ltd. disclaims liability for any direct, indirect, incidental, special, consequential, exemplary, punitive or other damages, or lost profits, that may result directly or indirectly from the use of this website and any material that is downloaded or obtained through the use of this website.

This includes, without limitation, any damage to computer systems, hardware or software, loss of data, or any other performance failures, any errors, bugs, viruses or other defects that result from, or are associated with the use of this website.

Yes, it gives most of us a headache to read all of this, but it's important so thank you for your patience and now, enjoy the site!

MooPi
February 11th, 2010, 08:52 PM
How about you create your own derivative. My personal favorite is the minimal install CD. From that point you add whatever you'd like. I have a minimal install on my netbook with Openbox as my window manager and pcmanfm as file mananger. Xdm works great on a minimal install as well as "feh" to handel desktop background. Super light on the resources and fun to setup. Link to Minimal download
https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/MinimalCD

Hallvor
February 11th, 2010, 09:13 PM
I'm bored today. Nothing much to do, so I'm going to download a few Ubuntu derivatives.

I have a few criteria for the ones I download:

Must be VERY stable.

Must have OpenOffice preinstalled, or able to be installed easily.

It cannot be Ubuntu satanic Version.

Cannot be Linux Mint, as I do not want to get caught up in that political train-wreck.

It has to be lightweight, and fast. It's going on a netbook, after all.

I suppose a USB creator would be an advantage.


That's about it. If anyone has any suggestions, please post them here. Well, thanks, I guess.

-Ericson

Sounds like Debian Lenny, my friend. :popcorn:

Prepare a liveUSB: http://blogs.koolwal.net/2009/02/25/installing-linux-on-usb-part-7-install-debian-linux-from-usb-drive/
Then follow this guide: http://www.howtoforge.com/the-perfect-desktop-debian-lenny

I have Debian Lenny on my netbook. It is very fast. (You can choose whatever desktop environment you want from the netinstall image under Advanced options.)

speedwell68
February 11th, 2010, 09:25 PM
Xubuntu or Masonux.

mickie.kext
February 11th, 2010, 09:28 PM
Cannot be Linux Mint, as I do not want to get caught up in that political train-wreck.



What political train-wreck ?

Woolio1
February 11th, 2010, 09:34 PM
What political train-wreck ?

The blog post where the creator said "if you do not support this cause [old Palestinian trouble] then I suggest you not use Linux Mint."

That political train-wreck. Google it.

XubuRoxMySox
February 11th, 2010, 11:21 PM
Linux Mint is Ubuntu anyway. It just has a different theme, pre-installed multimedia codecs, and rebranded stuff like Gimmie (http://beatniksoftware.com/gimmie/Main_Page) thrown in. Not much different from regular Ubuntu. The only real difference is about 10 minutes worth of downloading and installing stuff. It's better thought of as an Ubuntu remix than a true distro. As for the other issue, you can read about it here (http://www.extremetech.com/article2/0,2845,2346637,00.asp).

-Robin

mkvnmtr
February 12th, 2010, 12:01 AM
Do not prejudge. The satanic version might be just right for you.

Xbehave
February 12th, 2010, 12:22 AM
The blog post where the creator said "if you do not support this cause [old Palestinian trouble] then I suggest you not use Linux Mint."

That political train-wreck. Google it.
It's not so much a political train wreck as it is just the lead developer of mint stating his opinion on the oppression of the Palestinians by the Zionists, it's still FOSS you don't have to agree with novell/sun to use their software either!

Xbehave
February 12th, 2010, 12:26 AM
Linux Mint is Ubuntu anyway. It just has a different theme, pre-installed multimedia codecs, and rebranded stuff like Gimmie (http://beatniksoftware.com/gimmie/Main_Page) thrown in. Not much different from regular Ubuntu. The only real difference is about 10 minutes worth of downloading and installing stuff. It's better thought of as an Ubuntu remix than a true distro. As for the other issue, you can read about it here (http://www.extremetech.com/article2/0,2845,2346637,00.asp).

-Robin
MINT has it's own repos so is more of a 'distro' than !#, xubuntu, kubuntu, etc (personally i think the whole mess would be cleared up if xubuntu/kuuntu/!# were called 'spins', though mint is still almost a distro (somewhat more than sidux but not much)

Tibuda
February 12th, 2010, 12:30 AM
MINT has it's own repos so is more of a 'distro' than !#, xubuntu, kubuntu, etc (personally i think the whole mess would be cleared up if xubuntu/kuuntu/!# were called 'spins', though mint is still almost a distro (somewhat more than sidux but not much)

but it still uses ubuntu repositories. #! also have its own repository.

XubuRoxMySox
February 12th, 2010, 02:33 PM
It's not so much a political train wreck as it is just the lead developer of mint stating his opinion...

But here's the rub:

1. - Merely using Linux Mint raises money for "the project." ALL of the money raised by the automated Mint Search feature goes to Clem. He has said so himself in his personal blog.

2. - If Clem is a man of conscience, like most people are, he puts his money into causes and charities he believes in. Like most people do.

3. - If he supports a cause that I disagree with or despise, I should not be "inadvertently" sending money unawares to a supporter of that cause. A supporter who, like most people of conscience, probably helps the causes he believes in. He is free to do that of course, as I am.

Hey, Mint is awesome! I would simply say that users who are conflicted about the automated fund-raising and worried that some of that money might find it's way into the hands of Hamas or something, should go ahead and use Mint but change the default search page in Firefox. Heck, you could even change it to Ubuntu's Yahoo thing, and use Mint to raise funds for Canonical! :D

-Robin