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HappinessNow
February 10th, 2010, 08:22 PM
Imagine sitting in a rural health clinic, streaming three-dimensional medical imaging over the web and discussing a unique condition with a specialist in New York. Or downloading a high-definition, full-length feature film in less than five minutes. Or collaborating with classmates around the world while watching live 3-D video of a university lecture. Universal, ultra high-speed Internet access will make all this and more possible. We've urged the FCC to look at new and creative ways to get there in its National Broadband Plan – and today we're announcing an experiment of our own.

We're planning to build and test ultra high-speed broadband networks in a small number of trial locations across the United States. We'll deliver Internet speeds more than 100 times faster than what most Americans have access to today with 1 gigabit per second, fiber-to-the-home connections. We plan to offer service at a competitive price to at least 50,000 and potentially up to 500,000 people.

http://googleblog.blogspot.com/


In a post on its corporate blog, the search and advertising giant said it planned to build and test a high-speed fiber-optic broadband network capable of allowing people to surf the Web at 100 times the speed of most broadband connections
http://www.nytimes.com/2010/02/11/technology/companies/11google.html?partner=rss&emc=rss

Sporkman
February 10th, 2010, 08:47 PM
Good luck.

user1397
February 10th, 2010, 08:54 PM
pirates would have a field day:popcorn:

Luke has no name
February 10th, 2010, 09:05 PM
Pirates and the rest of civilization would have a field day.

It's time the Tier-1's realize they can't monopolize the Internet forever.

Sceiron
February 10th, 2010, 09:17 PM
Hey happy, are you Mr.google in rabbit disguise?

forrestcupp
February 10th, 2010, 09:44 PM
I was just reading about this. If this ever becomes widespread, I will change my opinion about the prospects of cloud computing.

NoaHall
February 10th, 2010, 09:47 PM
I was just reading about this. If this ever becomes widespread, I will change my opinion about the prospects of cloud computing.

It's already happening here, in the UK.

fatality_uk
February 10th, 2010, 09:53 PM
It's already happening here, in the UK.

Im moving to your neighbourhood :) Up here in Leeds, we can get at best, about 10mb/s cable no better than 15mb/s

The UK Gov say 2mb/s should be default *YIKES*

NoaHall
February 10th, 2010, 09:56 PM
Im moving to your neighbourhood :) Up here in Leeds, we can get at best, about 10mb/s cable no better than 15mb/s

The UK Giv say 2mb/s should be default *YIKES*

BT put the fibre optics in recently, but haven't started to sell high bandwidth yet.

CJ Master
February 10th, 2010, 10:32 PM
inb4googleparanoia

ElSlunko
February 10th, 2010, 10:40 PM
I welcome skynet. I mean google.

Skripka
February 10th, 2010, 10:50 PM
It's already happening here, in the UK.

There isn't any fiber internet within 200 miles of little 'ol me, here in the US.

forrestcupp
February 10th, 2010, 11:34 PM
The UK Gov say 2mb/s should be default *YIKES*

That's better than our default in the US, which is nothing. A lot of people who live in rural areas here are still stuck with dial-up. I can't get more than 6mbps where I live.

The Real Dave
February 10th, 2010, 11:38 PM
I get .5MB/s :( My line quality sucks and the exchange is 6km away :(

sudoer541
February 11th, 2010, 12:35 AM
I get .5MB/s :( My line quality sucks and the exchange is 6km away :(


I have 640KB up and 512 Down
My line sucks too, plus I live on an ancient building with poor copper wiring for DSL.
I may switch to cable internet soon, because AFAIK cable does not have the "far from the central office" problem and "your residence does not support newer technologies such as 10MBps"

I wanted to go with wireless/satellite internet but its more expensive than cable internet.
It would be great if I had free internet but its not possible. :(

Satoru-san
February 11th, 2010, 12:39 AM
I wonder if you get a public IP address so you can run a server off of it. :D

I would definitely get it then.

Kenny_Strawn
February 11th, 2010, 12:45 AM
I get, on average, between 600 K/s and 1 MB/s over Wi-Fi with AT&T.

I have to mention: I saw an article in PCMag that mentioned that the 700 MHz radio spectrum used for old analog TV signals was auctioned off to Google, and that Google was going to use it for the purpose of creating a Net connection from pretty much anywhere. I suppose this is what this thread is about.

phrostbyte
February 11th, 2010, 01:42 AM
1gbps direct Internet connection? Yes please. :p

sudoer541
February 11th, 2010, 01:56 AM
I hope Google internet comes to Canada!

aklo
February 11th, 2010, 03:00 AM
Is it even practical to have such a high download speed?

It it even possible to reach a download speed of 1gigabits?
Can our computer(harddisk) process like 1gigbits of data per second?
My hard disk transfer data as like 15MB / sec so with like 1gigabit (100+mb/s) i doubt so.

The only practical way are for companies with many computers i doubt homeusers will need that much.
Unless the uplink is the same speed then you could run a home server.

ElSlunko
February 11th, 2010, 03:04 AM
Is it even practical to have such a high download speed?

It it even possible to reach a download speed of 1gigabits?
Can our computer(harddisk) process like 1gigbits of data per second?
My hard disk transfer data as like 15MB / sec so with like 1gigabit (100+mb/s) i doubt so.

The only practical way are for companies with many computers i doubt homeusers will need that much.
Unless the uplink is the same speed then you could run a home server.

Another practical application would be streaming various types of media. There's a gaming system that is being developed that runs on serverside hardware and the frames are sent to your home.

pwnst*r
February 11th, 2010, 03:05 AM
Remember all that dark fiber Google grabbed 5 years ago? Yeah.

Satoru-san
February 11th, 2010, 03:07 AM
Remember all that dark fiber Google grabbed 5 years ago? Yeah.
Can you find an article with this in it? I am interested in reading about that.

dragos240
February 11th, 2010, 03:10 AM
This idea is awesome. I must have it!

MasterNetra
February 11th, 2010, 03:12 AM
Hey, if Google Bundles Cable and Phone with it. And its prices is the same if not a bit cheaper then WOW then Frak yea!

Icehuck
February 11th, 2010, 03:12 AM
Can you find an article with this in it? I am interested in reading about that.

We could tell you about it, but then we would have to kill you.


Just kidding.


http://news.cnet.com/Google-wants-dark-fiber/2100-1034_3-5537392.html

First link I saw.

pwnst*r
February 11th, 2010, 03:14 AM
Can you find an article with this in it? I am interested in reading about that.

There's lots of articles out there:

http://www.voip-news.com/feature/google-dark-fiber-050707/

Kenny_Strawn
February 11th, 2010, 03:37 AM
Look here to see a post that explains how Google's Internet works. ('http://ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=8807235&postcount=17')

pwnst*r
February 11th, 2010, 03:40 AM
Look here to see a post that explains how Google's Internet works. ('http://ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=8807235&postcount=17')

That's how it works.

judge jankum
February 11th, 2010, 03:45 AM
I read this stuff....fell out of my chair and crushed my nuts so bad I can't even walk":o

Kenny_Strawn
February 11th, 2010, 04:09 AM
The idea of Google's Net service is simple: to give Google much more power over users.

Hey! Google Chrome OS, Android, Google Apps, Google Code, and much more. Face it: Google is another Microsoft. The only difference is that Google uses ads instead of direct charges. It's still the same thing.

Skripka
February 11th, 2010, 04:23 AM
It's still the same thing.

Nope. If nothing else, Google produces much higher quality code....even though they still ignore this 64bit OS fad we are in.

Satoru-san
February 11th, 2010, 04:23 AM
The idea of Google's Net service is simple: to give Google much more power over users.
More like take over the world. SERIOUSLY at this rate it is VERY possible that google WILL take over the world. I like google though so as long as google doesnt start a dictatorship of the whole world, then its all good.

pwnst*r
February 11th, 2010, 04:33 AM
More like take over the world. SERIOUSLY at this rate it is VERY possible that google WILL take over the world. I like google though so as long as google doesnt start a dictatorship of the whole world, then its all good.

You should step outside more. There's a real world out there.

Satoru-san
February 11th, 2010, 04:35 AM
You should step outside more. There's a real world out there.
;) I know I was kidding about the dictatorship.

On a more serious note, Google might eventually have a monopoly over the internet, if that hasn't happened already.

Kenny_Strawn
February 11th, 2010, 05:01 AM
Nope. If nothing else, Google produces much higher quality code....even though they still ignore this 64bit OS fad we are in.

The one thing I do like about Google is its use of FOSS in all its desktop apps. Its Web apps? Not so much, but any Google app or OS that functions on the computer itself you can certainly count on as FOSS.

hobo14
February 11th, 2010, 05:53 AM
Is it even practical to have such a high download speed?

It it even possible to reach a download speed of 1gigabits?
Can our computer(harddisk) process like 1gigbits of data per second?
My hard disk transfer data as like 15MB / sec so with like 1gigabit (100+mb/s) i doubt so.

The only practical way are for companies with many computers i doubt homeusers will need that much.
Unless the uplink is the same speed then you could run a home server.

! What type of disk is that?
Disks capable of 0.5 Gb/sec are pretty common, and 1 Gb/sec ones are available.

So pure downloads to disk could make full use of that bandwidth, in theory, at the present, but considering the current small size of movies/games/music (small in the context of 1 GB/s downloads) I doubt that downloading data to disk is what all that bandwidth will most often be used for by most people.
I think it'll be used more for realtime streaming of ever increasingly high quality video for use in peoples everyday lives, and uses, apps and hardware that have previously been impossible or impractical, or not yet dreamed of.

Until bandwidths reach levels that allow everyone in a household to suck data in at a rate as high as their bodies can generate for their brains and/or the highest rates that a human brain can process or until hardware stops us, bandwidth to our homes will just keep increasing.

1 Gb/s might be the final nail in the recording industy's coffin; sharing will increase to a level too difficult to monitor, let alone prevent.

Skripka
February 11th, 2010, 06:11 AM
! What type of disk is that?
Disks capable of 0.5 Gb/sec are pretty common, and 1 Gb/sec ones are available.


Wha? First clarify your units. Are you speaking of Gigabits or Gigabytes? Secondly I don't see where you come from with your numbers

At best disk-to-buffer rates are usually 70Megabyte/second or so depending on file fragmentation and RPM...sure the bus can support 300Megabyte/second with Sata2 but the disk->buffer rate is the limiter in the real world not the bus. Of course there are SSDs, but those are still uncommon, and expensive.

aviedw
February 11th, 2010, 06:13 AM
Lets see how much it will cost first. The prospects of actually using such speeds is far beyond what the average user will actually need. So first in line to adopt such a idea in the piratical sense would be the medical field or the federal/state/local authorities to enhanced video surveillance capabilities and broad and long range communication.

But the public has to back it. It has to be seen as doing us a favour I think every leap forward that we intend to make creates areas of inequality where some will be benefactors and others will be victims.

Lets try to look first and then jump together. (idealism)

hobo14
February 11th, 2010, 06:22 AM
! What type of disk is that?
Disks capable of 0.5 Gb/sec are pretty common, and 1 Gb/sec ones are available.
Wha? First clarify your units. Are you speaking of Gigabits or Gigabytes? Secondly I don't see where you come from with your numbers

At best disk-to-buffer rates are usually 70Megabyte/second or so depending on file fragmentation and RPM...sure the bus can support 300Megabyte/second with Sata2 but the disk->buffer rate is the limiter in the real world not the bus. Of course there are SSDs, but those are still uncommon, and expensive.

Gb = Gigabits
GB = Gigabytes

70 MB/s = 560 Mb/sec = 0.5 Gb/s (approx)

Skripka
February 11th, 2010, 06:29 AM
Gb = Gigabits
GB = Gigabytes

70 MB/s = 560 Mb/sec = 0.5 Gb/s (approx)

Ah, got it.

I'd still contest "bandwidth will keep increasing". It is HIGHLY geograpchically dependent. Out here bandwidth speeds have not moved in 3 or 4 years (stuck around 6 or 7 megabit), and optic-fiber for homes is not to be found within a 200mile radius.

hobo14
February 11th, 2010, 06:40 AM
Ah, got it.

I'd still contest "bandwidth will keep increasing". It is HIGHLY geograpchically dependent. Out here bandwidth speeds have not moved in 3 or 4 years (stuck around 6 or 7 megabit), and optic-fiber for homes is not to be found within a 200mile radius.

Or, to look at it another way, your broadband speed took an exponential(guessing) leap upwards just 4 years ago ;)

I mean they'll keep increasing in the long to very long term.

Kimm
February 11th, 2010, 09:58 AM
The Swedish government have been investing in getting high-speed broadband connections to everyone in the country, which is pretty much done now. My connection is 100Mbps, but if I wanted to shell out some more money each month I could just as well get 1Gbps. It's like this all over the country, unless you live really, really rural (then you may have to settle with 5 mbps)

TuckLive
February 11th, 2010, 01:19 PM
Another practical application would be streaming various types of media. There's a gaming system that is being developed that runs on serverside hardware and the frames are sent to your home.

www.onlive.com

Grenage
February 11th, 2010, 01:25 PM
Sweden got it right, the UK screwed up years ago when the government turned down BT's fibre proposal during Maggie's reign. Now most of the UK is playing in the mud with dire DSL connections.

The Nynex legacy that Virgin are running with is a great base to work off, BT are playing catch-up at the moment.

jflaker
February 11th, 2010, 01:30 PM
I hope it happens. It will FORCE the current ISP's to open their network's speed to match or exceed (which we all know the infrastructure is already in place) this offering or become like the slow one of the herd and be killed and eaten as people leave in droves to acquire true "HIGH SPEED INTERNET".

Bring it. This is the competition that the ISP's have been needing. I just hope it happens quickly

Grenage
February 11th, 2010, 01:35 PM
It's just a trial. You're looking at years till fibre and high speeds are really widespread in the UK/US.

Sporkman
February 11th, 2010, 02:39 PM
The Swedish government have been investing in getting high-speed broadband connections to everyone in the country, which is pretty much done now. My connection is 100Mbps, but if I wanted to shell out some more money each month I could just as well get 1Gbps. It's like this all over the country, unless you live really, really rural (then you may have to settle with 5 mbps)

Nice! 8)

Skripka
February 11th, 2010, 02:43 PM
The Swedish government have been investing in getting high-speed broadband connections to everyone in the country, which is pretty much done now. My connection is 100Mbps, but if I wanted to shell out some more money each month I could just as well get 1Gbps. It's like this all over the country, unless you live really, really rural (then you may have to settle with 5 mbps)

I need to get working on that Swedish work visa....

[h2o]
February 11th, 2010, 02:57 PM
I need to get working on that Swedish work visa....
I don't think the VISA will be any problem. Getting a work on the other hand, can be hard depending on your field of work.

Grenage
February 11th, 2010, 03:07 PM
Yup; the other half and myself plan on moving there in about a year or so. At the moment the tech sector is ok on employment.

sudoer541
February 11th, 2010, 07:49 PM
I hope Google internet will be available in Canada...please Google???
internet monopolies are ridiculous in Canada.
Bell and Rogers dominate the ISP market and no one else can compete with them.

Megrimn
February 11th, 2010, 08:07 PM
There isn't any fiber internet within 200 miles of little 'ol me, here in the US.

mmm, our local telephone company in minnesota is installing fiber optics practically everywhere they have jurisdiction.. Should be up and running this summer.

Unfortunately, I'm down in teh arkansas so I won't get to test it until I go home... we live out in the boonies and still have dial-up @ 26kbps per second. The modem is capable of 54, so I'm interested in what the difference is going to be.


[edit] I also wonder what Google wants monetarily for their service, whenever they get it going...

PhilGil
February 11th, 2010, 08:46 PM
I also wonder what Google wants monetarily for their service, whenever they get it going...
Rumor is it will be "priced competitively with existing services."

I'm not a Google fanboy and take issue with many of their business practices, but I'm 100% supportive any time they poke a stick at the big Telcos. Someone needs to step up and bring the communications infrastructure in the US in line with the rest of the developed world.

markp1989
February 11th, 2010, 09:35 PM
wow , i want this!! just hope its not to expensive :)

Megrimn
February 12th, 2010, 03:13 AM
Someone needs to step up and bring the communications infrastructure in the US in line with the rest of the developed world.

Agreed.

sudoer541
February 12th, 2010, 04:12 AM
OMG!!! I want Google internet!!!!
hope it will be available in my area!!!

sudoer541
February 12th, 2010, 05:17 AM
[crying] I want it!!!!!! Google please support Canada!!!! [crying]

n0dix
February 12th, 2010, 05:21 AM
OMG!!! I want Google internet!!!!
hope it will be available in my area!!!

me too, but i don't think it will get in my country.

n0dix
February 12th, 2010, 05:25 AM
Any article talk about the cost for the people?
I don't think it will be free, with much ads.

Chimes
February 12th, 2010, 06:18 AM
I, for one, welcome our new Google...

oh what's the point?

It's like stating the obvious here. :p

HappinessNow
February 12th, 2010, 11:52 AM
All I know is I nominated my city to be one of the first trial cities; then I emailed the mayor, the city council and the University President.

I actually got a response back from the University President saying; "We will spread the word through our social media networks"...

:p

Grenage
February 12th, 2010, 11:55 AM
"We will spread the word through our social media networks"...

Facebook? ;)

HappinessNow
February 12th, 2010, 12:02 PM
Facebook? ;)I thought so but I checked their facebook page and not a word about it, not sure what they mean?

JDShu
February 13th, 2010, 03:18 AM
Maybe this could help with that idea of launching balloons to provide wifi access. Increase the bandwidth of each balloon so that huge numbers of people can use it at high speeds. Wouldn't that be cool :P

CJ Master
February 13th, 2010, 05:54 AM
I'm surprised. People complain about their privacy using google search, but don't care when google is the ISP? They do realize that as an ISP they can track EVERY SINGLE THING they do online, right?

doorknob60
February 13th, 2010, 06:35 AM
Will this work with the existing TiSP? http://www.google.com/tisp/

HappinessNow
February 13th, 2010, 09:52 AM
I'm surprised. People complain about their privacy using google search, but don't care when google is the ISP? They do realize that as an ISP they can track EVERY SINGLE THING they do online, right?
I feel more comfortable with Google then Comcast.

n0dix
February 13th, 2010, 02:28 PM
I'm surprised. People complain about their privacy using google search, but don't care when google is the ISP? They do realize that as an ISP they can track EVERY SINGLE THING they do online, right?

I think Google earned the trust of the users. Yes, there are always risks about the privacy, but actually a still prefer Google.

bapoumba
February 13th, 2010, 09:36 PM
I've removed a whole conversation from here, 14 posts.

00ber n00b
February 13th, 2010, 10:17 PM
will this work with the existing tisp? http://www.google.com/tisp/

lol

n0dix
February 13th, 2010, 10:21 PM
lol

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