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stoeptegel
March 5th, 2006, 02:21 PM
Allofmp3 was great with his ogg service, but they have disabled the paypal payment method months ago.
Also i've heard that allofmp3 refuses to pay foreign artists, which makes me think twice to download an album there.

So i need another download service that provides ogg vorbis and flac. Does anyone know a good and cheap one?

imagine
March 5th, 2006, 02:48 PM
Allofmp3 was great with his ogg service, but they have disabled the paypal payment method months ago.No they didn't, they just renamed it to xrost.


Also i've heard that allofmp3 refuses to pay foreign artists, which makes me think twice to download an album there.AllOfMP3 pays ROMS (Russian organization for multimedia and digital systems) and ROMS pays the artists. Paying ROMS is not optional in Russia, so you cannot "refuse" to do that.
It's true that the major labels (Sony BMG, EMI, Warner, Universal) don't accept money from ROMS, because they claim what happens in Russia is illegal, but you can hardly blame AllOfMP3 for that.

stoeptegel
March 5th, 2006, 03:53 PM
No they didn't, they just renamed it to xrost.

So they renamed it without providing information what it stands for ("the new paypal method") and without a promised email that paypal is back in service.
That's not smart.



It's true that the major labels (Sony BMG, EMI, Warner, Universal) don't accept money from ROMS, because they claim what happens in Russia is illegal, but you can hardly blame AllOfMP3 for that.

Ah that clears up the situation a bit. Thank you.

Bragador
March 5th, 2006, 03:59 PM
Mandriva will offer an ogg vorbis music service. Plus you'll be able to buy FLAC files too !

http://wwwnew.mandriva.com/en/company/press/pr/mandriva_2006_to_offer_online_music_service_featur e_through_mindawn

stoeptegel
March 5th, 2006, 06:01 PM
That's not cheap like allofmp3 cheap, but it's ogg and flac... i'll take a look.

Bragador
March 5th, 2006, 06:13 PM
Well not to sound like a Mandriva seller though :P

So the REAL company already offering the service can be found here http://www.mindawn.com/

And I fully support mindawn for helping the open software world !

ssam
March 5th, 2006, 08:29 PM
maybe have a look at magnatune (http://magnatune.com/).

Bragador
March 5th, 2006, 08:51 PM
@ssam

ROTFLMAO !

I just love the "we are not evil"

DigitalDuality
March 5th, 2006, 10:21 PM
I hate the RIAA right along with the next guy, and all for downloading some songs.

But you're "paying artists" just as much with Allofmp3 as you are if you downloaded pirated torrents. It's a rip off IMO.

Try this stuff out:
Minidawn: OGG/FLAC service
http://www.mindawn.com/

Magnatune: DRM/RIAA Free Music (also, try before you buy)
http://magnatune.com/

Emusic: RIAA and DRM free music
http://www.emusic.com/

stoeptegel
March 7th, 2006, 12:33 PM
But you're "paying artists" just as much with Allofmp3 as you are if you downloaded pirated torrents. It's a rip off IMO.


I know, it's not right. It makes me sad that an artist is the one who's feeling it when "the money corporations" can't agree with each other.
Buying music but no pennies for the artist simply souldn't be possible, ever.

But if you ask me, i'am pretty sick of those coorporations that doing business in this "i sue you" and "i exclude you and you" way. Sometimes i even forget that there's an artist behind all this; that's what they have managed to get done with me with their millions dollar budget :-#

Thanks for the links guys. :) (me likes magnatune)

majikstreet
March 7th, 2006, 10:08 PM
I'm not going to stop downloading music. ever.. the RIAA only cares because they get oodles of money for the music... and the recording industry executives get oodles too.. but a tiny-weeny bit for the artists.. crazy

MetalMusicAddict
March 7th, 2006, 11:50 PM
I'm not going to stop downloading music. ever.. the RIAA only cares because they get oodles of money for the music... and the recording industry executives get oodles too.. but a tiny-weeny bit for the artists.. crazy
Your really gonna go there again? :) Would you buy music if the RIAA didnt see a red cent?

I applaude you stoeptegel for wanting to buy your music in this "Why pay for it when I can get it for free?" world.

Thanx for the links to the OGG sites guys. :)

stoeptegel
March 8th, 2006, 02:30 PM
I applaude you stoeptegel for wanting to buy your music in this "Why pay for it when I can get it for free?" world.


I actually do use file sharing though, but i make the distinction between paying and not paying for it:
I use p2p for example for the relax way of trying to find new good music, and when i like a CD, i like to buy (or ask for present) for several reasons:
- i like ogg, flac or CD more than the commonly used mp3 format
- because i feel this is the way to support & make a statement to the artist that i like his/her music

It's the step when i actually pay for something, where i try to do this with conscience of my motivations. But sometimes this is actually a hard job in this strange world though.

MetalMusicAddict
March 8th, 2006, 11:30 PM
I actually do use file sharing though, but i make the distinction between paying and not paying for it:
I use p2p for example for the relax way of trying to find new good music, and when i like a CD, i like to buy (or ask for present) for several reasons:
- i like ogg, flac or CD more than the commonly used mp3 format
- because i feel this is the way to support & make a statement to the artist that i like his/her music

It's the step when i actually pay for something, where i try to do this with conscience of my motivations. But sometimes this is actually a hard job in this strange world though.
This is pretty much what Ive done. I belong to a big (If not the biggest) metal torrent fourm. I release now mostly and maybe only once a month. Always in Vorbis at about 128kbps. :) If they want it better, buy the CD.

Ive found that lately, artists own sites have gotten alot better at letting you preview the music. Which is what I use torrents for.

Ok since majikstreet didnt bite Ill post what I was going to tell him. :)

For people who hate the RIAA and dont wanna give them money, (if thats your real reason and not a cop-out) buy it used. Noone but the merchant sees any money off a used CD. Same goes for those "promo" copies of CDs. The ones with the gold foil writing on the front and the hole punched in the barcode.

There are TONS of used CD sites out there and I can usually find anything Im looking for used minus a new release.

henriquemaia
April 28th, 2006, 05:10 AM
I hate the RIAA right along with the next guy, and all for downloading some songs.

But you're "paying artists" just as much with Allofmp3 as you are if you downloaded pirated torrents. It's a rip off IMO.

Try this stuff out:
Minidawn: OGG/FLAC service
http://www.mindawn.com/

Magnatune: DRM/RIAA Free Music (also, try before you buy)
http://magnatune.com/

Emusic: RIAA and DRM free music
http://www.emusic.com/

Magnatune site is very interesting. Good link. The principles layed for their business are great.

Thanks for pointing this out.

stairwayoflight
August 6th, 2006, 08:36 PM
hmm minddawn looks cewl,

but is there a deb for their preview player function? or should i install the rpm?

its cool that people are thinking open source, and lossless for that matter.

forrestcupp
August 6th, 2006, 11:24 PM
I checked out mindawn and magnatune, and I have this question for you. Are there any legal pay music companies that offer oggs that actually have artists that people have heard of?

Terracotta
August 7th, 2006, 12:07 AM
I'm not going to stop downloading music. ever.. the RIAA only cares because they get oodles of money for the music... and the recording industry executives get oodles too.. but a tiny-weeny bit for the artists.. crazy

Oh, to me you seem to only care about whether you don't have to spend a tiny bit of money for the music...