Wubi/LVPM Installation will not boot Ubuntu.

[alkh3myst]

Help! I'm new to Ubuntu. Don't be fooled by my join date. I tried Gutsy, but didn't have enough time to learn Linux.I installed Wubi, and really liked it. Karmic is much more user-friendly. So, I used LVPM to put Ubuntu on a new partition. I shrank NTFS using Windows (Vista :mad:), and used GParted to format EXT 4 on dev/sda2 and swap on dev/sda3. Did I do this right? Next, I used LVPM to put my Wubi installation on the EXT 4 partition, but LVPM reformatted it to EXT 3. Now Ubuntu will not boot at all on the new partition. I've spent the last 4 days struggling with GRUB documentation, most of which is out of date, for GRUB legacy. Even the "official" GRUB 2 documentation has not kept up with changes. More than half of the commands I found in my GRUB 2 menu, using "tab" don't match the docs. Did I mention I'm new to Ubuntu? Still, I've kept searching for an answer. Everybody is very helpful, knows just what's wrong, but their suggestions don't work. I tried running a script in .sh format in the terminal, but it doesn't run either, despite following several contradictory sets of instructions on how to do this. Did I say I'm new to Ubuntu? Never had to use a command line with so huge a number of possible commands before. Now, finally "Startup Manager" came up in a search of the forums.This seems to work, but I can't figure out how to diagnose my problem, which seems to be the case of the missing kernel. I really don't know my initards from my uuids, and haven't found a GRUB glossary. I'm treading water in mid Pacific, can somebody throw me a life preserver? I'd burn a CD and start from scratch, but my burner's not working right. One last thing. Does Ubuntu boot from EXT or swap? It may sound stupid, but what's really stupid is me not asking. Did I forget to say I'm new to Ubuntu? Mama said there'd be days like this...

[Sef]

Read this (https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WubiGuide). The answer is located under Misc.

[alkh3myst]

Thanks. Maybe you didn't read my post carefully. I said that: "I used LVPM to put Ubuntu on a new partition." Your suggestion, while I thank you for responding, will not resolve my problem at all. My permanent Ubuntu installation will not boot, not my Wubi, which works fine, for now. GRUB 2 doesn't recognize my permanent Ubuntu installation on dev/sda2; changing the default OS to Ubuntu will only boot my Wubi installation as the default OS. This solves nothing. You also seem not to notice that I'm running Vista instead of XP, which the instructions you refer to call for. Longhorn is a jealous bootloader, probably by Microsoft's monopolistic intent, that you tamper with at your own peril. Voice of experience. Again I thank you for responding at all, but can you give me a solution that actually works, and applies to my problem?

[oldfred]

I saw your post in the other thread, but understand that using LVPM is a more advanced configuration to combine drive space. Very few users have that configuration. I do not know LVPM, but there are a few here who may be able to give specific advice.

Again we need to see the boot_info script. It should run from your Wubi install ( I run it from my standard install just to see my configuration, but it puts the results.txt in /home for me) but instructions are for users who cannot boot and are using a liveCD. I suggest using the liveCD if you have trouble, so you can follow the specific directions.
This link has extra instructions and a link to download.

Page with instructions and download:
http://bootinfoscript.sourceforge.net/

Are you only booting Vista and getting the Vista/Wubi choice? Grub2 booting should give you your install and Vista as choices on a menu.

[oldfred]

Here is another thread with lvm.
http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1394399

Herman says you have to install with the alternative CD, not the standard desktop.

[darkod]

Here is another thread with lvm.
http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1394399

Herman says you have to install with the alternative CD, not the standard desktop.

LVM has nothing to do with LVPM which is some sort of software to move wubi into full ubuntu on its own partition.
Maybe it's too late now, but what about installing ubuntu into the space you designated for the LVPM transfer, and then just move your data from wubi into the full ubuntu.
It's not a perfect solution, but neither is LVPM. In fact, the moment you decided you want ubuntu for long term, you should have got rid of wubi and make a full install.
The sourceforge LVPM webpage doesn't even say it's supported for 9.10.

[oldfred]

Good catch Darko I missed the difference between LVM and LVPM. I have seen where the conversion from wubi to a partition did not complete correctly. As I remember it just needed a fix or two. The script should tell us what is missing.

I think backing up /home or any other data from wubi and a full clean install would always be better. If space is available one could do a new install and temporarily mount the wubi install to copy over and data/settings.

[Leppie]

Help! I'm new to Ubuntu. Don't be fooled by my join date. I tried Gutsy, but didn't have enough time to learn Linux.I installed Wubi, and really liked it. Karmic is much more user-friendly. So, I used LVPM to put Ubuntu on a new partition. I shrank NTFS using Windows (Vista :mad:), and used GParted to format EXT 4 on dev/sda2 and swap on dev/sda3. Did I do this right? Next, I used LVPM to put my Wubi installation on the EXT 4 partition, but LVPM reformatted it to EXT 3. Now Ubuntu will not boot at all on the new partition. I've spent the last 4 days struggling with GRUB documentation, most of which is out of date, for GRUB legacy. Even the "official" GRUB 2 documentation has not kept up with changes. More than half of the commands I found in my GRUB 2 menu, using "tab" don't match the docs.
i am sorry you're having this bad experience with the lvpm process. to be honest i've never done a wubi install, so i wouldn't really know how that works. i'll try it when i've set up my virtual machine properly.


Did I mention I'm new to Ubuntu? Still, I've kept searching for an answer. Everybody is very helpful, knows just what's wrong, but their suggestions don't work. I tried running a script in .sh format in the terminal, but it doesn't run either, despite following several contradictory sets of instructions on how to do this.
to run a script, you normally need to make it executable. most howto's and guides tell you to download to the desktop, so the command to run the script after downloading without changing its permissions would be:

sudo bash ~/Desktop/boot_info_script*.sh


I'd burn a CD and start from scratch, but my burner's not working right. One last thing. Does Ubuntu boot from EXT or swap?
i don't know what you mean by "EXT", but ubuntu should boot from your normal install's partition (not swap, swap is like extended memory on disk).
can you boot off a livecd, or boot into your wubi install and run the script? this would really help us analyse the problems you're facing.

[alkh3myst]

Thanks so much everybody! Sorry for the delay, I had some JDK tweaking to do, installing the new version, and writing a little test code. I didn't know you had to save the script to the desktop, I had it saved in Documents. I will paste it here. (I'm sure there's a way to do this via a link but I don't know how yet. I'm going to have to get the latest edition of Ubuntu for Dummies.) One more question: Once this issue is fixed God willing, I can move my Ubuntu install somewhere else and reformat dev/sda2 to ext4, since LVPM changed it to ext3, right? Thanks again gang! You don't know how much I appreciate this.***FORGOT TO ADD...GRUB 2 GIVES ME THESE CHOICES: IT SHOWS UBUNTU ON DEV/SDA2 BUT WONT LET ME BOOT. THE OTHER 2 CHOICES ARE "UNKNOWN OS" WHICH SENDS ME TO LONGHORN, AND "VISTA BOOTLOADER" WHICH DOES THE SAME THING...HOPE THIS HELPS.



============================= Boot Info Summary: ==============================

=> Grub 0.97 is installed in the MBR of /dev/sda and looks on the same drive
in partition #2 for /boot/grub/stage2 and /boot/grub/menu.lst.
=> Syslinux is installed in the MBR of /dev/sdb
sda1: __________________________________________________ _______________________

File system: ntfs
Boot sector type: Windows Vista/7
Boot sector info: No errors found in the Boot Parameter Block.
Operating System: Windows Vista
Boot files/dirs: /bootmgr /Boot/BCD /Windows/System32/winload.exe
/wubildr.mbr /ubuntu/winboot/wubildr.mbr
/ubuntu/disks/root.disk /ubuntu/disks/swap.disk

sda1/Wubi: __________________________________________________ _______________________

File system: ext4
Boot sector type: -
Boot sector info:
Operating System: Ubuntu 9.10
Boot files/dirs: /boot/grub/menu.lst /boot/grub/grub.cfg /etc/fstab

sda2: __________________________________________________ _______________________

File system: ext3
Boot sector type: -
Boot sector info:
Operating System: Ubuntu 9.10
Boot files/dirs: /boot/grub/menu.lst /boot/grub/grub.cfg /etc/fstab

sda3: __________________________________________________ _______________________

File system: swap
Boot sector type: -
Boot sector info:

sdb1: __________________________________________________ _______________________

File system: vfat
Boot sector type: Vista: Fat 32
Boot sector info: According to the info in the boot sector, sdb1 starts
at sector 0. But according to the info from fdisk,
sdb1 starts at sector 63.
Operating System:
Boot files/dirs:

=========================== Drive/Partition Info: =============================

Drive: sda ___________________ __________________________________________________ ___

Disk /dev/sda: 320.1 GB, 320072933376 bytes
255 heads, 63 sectors/track, 38913 cylinders, total 625142448 sectors
Units = sectors of 1 * 512 = 512 bytes
Disk identifier: 0x044b35a9

Partition Boot Start End Size Id System

/dev/sda1 * 63 341,753,534 341,753,472 7 HPFS/NTFS
/dev/sda2 341,766,810 621,731,564 279,964,755 83 Linux
/dev/sda3 621,731,565 625,137,344 3,405,780 82 Linux swap / Solaris


Drive: sdb ___________________ __________________________________________________ ___

Disk /dev/sdb: 8253 MB, 8253341696 bytes
255 heads, 63 sectors/track, 1003 cylinders, total 16119808 sectors
Units = sectors of 1 * 512 = 512 bytes
Disk identifier: 0x00030938

Partition Boot Start End Size Id System

/dev/sdb1 * 63 16,113,194 16,113,132 b W95 FAT32


blkid -c /dev/null: __________________________________________________ __________

Device UUID TYPE LABEL

/dev/loop0 67c49498-ff96-43d9-b038-6c12a66607cf ext4
/dev/sda1 B81CBE6A1CBE2374 ntfs
/dev/sda2 69db9f11-beab-4a8a-95ef-4c972e1d9edb ext3
/dev/sda3 57a046da-d5a1-48e9-8be3-dbcb616a1d8c swap
/dev/sdb1 DAF2-325A vfat

============================ "mount | grep ^/dev output: ===========================

Device Mount_Point Type Options

/dev/loop0 / ext4 (rw,errors=remount-ro)
/dev/sda1 /host fuseblk (rw)
/dev/sdb1 /media/DAF2-325A vfat (rw,nosuid,nodev,uhelper=devkit,uid=1000,gid=1000, shortname=mixed,dmask=0077,utf8=1,flush)


======================== sda1/Wubi/boot/grub/menu.lst: ========================



title Ubuntu-on-/dev/sda2
root (hd0,1)
configfile /boot/grub/menu.lst




title Ubuntu-on-/dev/sda2
root (hd0,1)
configfile /boot/grub/menu.lst


### BEGIN AUTOMAGIC KERNELS LIST
## lines between the AUTOMAGIC KERNELS LIST markers will be modified
## by the debian update-grub script except for the default options below

## DO NOT UNCOMMENT THEM, Just edit them to your needs

## ## Start Default Options ##
## default kernel options
## default kernel options for automagic boot options
## If you want special options for specific kernels use kopt_x_y_z
## where x.y.z is kernel version. Minor versions can be omitted.
## e.g. kopt=root=/dev/hda1 ro
## kopt_2_6_8=root=/dev/hdc1 ro
## kopt_2_6_8_2_686=root=/dev/hdc2 ro
# kopt=root=UUID=B81CBE6A1CBE2374 loop=/ubuntu/disks/root.disk ro

## default grub root device
## e.g. groot=(hd0,0)
# groot=B81CBE6A1CBE2374

## should update-grub create alternative automagic boot options
## e.g. alternative=true
## alternative=false
# alternative=true

## should update-grub lock alternative automagic boot options
## e.g. lockalternative=true
## lockalternative=false
# lockalternative=false

## additional options to use with the default boot option, but not with the
## alternatives
## e.g. defoptions=vga=791 resume=/dev/hda5
# defoptions=quiet splash

## should update-grub lock old automagic boot options
## e.g. lockold=false
## lockold=true
# lockold=false

## Xen hypervisor options to use with the default Xen boot option
# xenhopt=

## Xen Linux kernel options to use with the default Xen boot option
# xenkopt=console=tty0

## altoption boot targets option
## multiple altoptions lines are allowed
## e.g. altoptions=(extra menu suffix) extra boot options
## altoptions=(recovery) single
# altoptions=(recovery mode) single

## controls how many kernels should be put into the menu.lst
## only counts the first occurence of a kernel, not the
## alternative kernel options
## e.g. howmany=all
## howmany=7
# howmany=all

## specify if running in Xen domU or have grub detect automatically
## update-grub will ignore non-xen kernels when running in domU and vice versa
## e.g. indomU=detect
## indomU=true
## indomU=false
# indomU=detect

## should update-grub create memtest86 boot option
## e.g. memtest86=true
## memtest86=false
# memtest86=true

## should update-grub adjust the value of the default booted system
## can be true or false
# updatedefaultentry=false

## should update-grub add savedefault to the default options
## can be true or false
# savedefault=false


======================== sda1/Wubi/boot/grub/grub.cfg: ========================

#
# DO NOT EDIT THIS FILE
#
# It is automatically generated by /usr/sbin/grub-mkconfig using templates
# from /etc/grub.d and settings from /etc/default/grub
#

### BEGIN /etc/grub.d/00_header ###
if [ -s /boot/grub/grubenv ]; then
have_grubenv=true
load_env
fi
set default="0"
if [ ${prev_saved_entry} ]; then
saved_entry=${prev_saved_entry}
save_env saved_entry
prev_saved_entry=
save_env prev_saved_entry
fi
if [ ${recordfail} = 1 ]; then
set timeout=-1
else
set timeout=10
fi
### END /etc/grub.d/00_header ###

### BEGIN /etc/grub.d/05_debian_theme ###
set menu_color_normal=white/black
set menu_color_highlight=black/white
### END /etc/grub.d/05_debian_theme ###

### BEGIN /etc/grub.d/10_linux ###
### END /etc/grub.d/10_linux ###

### BEGIN /etc/grub.d/10_lupin ###
menuentry "Ubuntu, Linux 2.6.31-17-generic" {
insmod ntfs
set root=(hd0,1)
search --no-floppy --fs-uuid --set b81cbe6a1cbe2374
loopback loop0 /ubuntu/disks/root.disk
set root=(loop0)
linux /boot/vmlinuz-2.6.31-17-generic root=/dev/sda1 loop=/ubuntu/disks/root.disk ro quiet splash
initrd /boot/initrd.img-2.6.31-17-generic
}
menuentry "Ubuntu, Linux 2.6.31-17-generic (recovery mode)" {
insmod ntfs
set root=(hd0,1)
search --no-floppy --fs-uuid --set b81cbe6a1cbe2374
loopback loop0 /ubuntu/disks/root.disk
set root=(loop0)
linux /boot/vmlinuz-2.6.31-17-generic root=/dev/sda1 loop=/ubuntu/disks/root.disk ro single
initrd /boot/initrd.img-2.6.31-17-generic
}
menuentry "Ubuntu, Linux 2.6.31-14-generic" {
insmod ntfs
set root=(hd0,1)
search --no-floppy --fs-uuid --set b81cbe6a1cbe2374
loopback loop0 /ubuntu/disks/root.disk
set root=(loop0)
linux /boot/vmlinuz-2.6.31-14-generic root=/dev/sda1 loop=/ubuntu/disks/root.disk ro quiet splash
initrd /boot/initrd.img-2.6.31-14-generic
}
menuentry "Ubuntu, Linux 2.6.31-14-generic (recovery mode)" {
insmod ntfs
set root=(hd0,1)
search --no-floppy --fs-uuid --set b81cbe6a1cbe2374
loopback loop0 /ubuntu/disks/root.disk
set root=(loop0)
linux /boot/vmlinuz-2.6.31-14-generic root=/dev/sda1 loop=/ubuntu/disks/root.disk ro single
initrd /boot/initrd.img-2.6.31-14-generic
}
### END /etc/grub.d/10_lupin ###

### BEGIN /etc/grub.d/20_memtest86+ ###
### END /etc/grub.d/20_memtest86+ ###

### BEGIN /etc/grub.d/30_os-prober ###
menuentry "Windows Vista (loader) (on /dev/sda1)" {
insmod ntfs
set root=(hd0,1)
search --no-floppy --fs-uuid --set b81cbe6a1cbe2374
chainloader +1
}
### END /etc/grub.d/30_os-prober ###

### BEGIN /etc/grub.d/40_custom ###
# This file provides an easy way to add custom menu entries. Simply type the
# menu entries you want to add after this comment. Be careful not to change
# the 'exec tail' line above.
### END /etc/grub.d/40_custom ###

============================= sda1/Wubi/etc/fstab: =============================

# /etc/fstab: static file system information.
#
# Use 'blkid -o value -s UUID' to print the universally unique identifier
# for a device; this may be used with UUID= as a more robust way to name
# devices that works even if disks are added and removed. See fstab(5).
#
# <file system> <mount point> <type> <options> <dump> <pass>
proc /proc proc defaults 0 0
/host/ubuntu/disks/root.disk / ext4 loop,errors=remount-ro 0 1
/host/ubuntu/disks/swap.disk none swap loop,sw 0 0

=========================== sda2/boot/grub/menu.lst: ===========================



title Ubuntu-on-/dev/sda2
root (hd0,1)
configfile /boot/grub/menu.lst



# This is a divider, added to separate the menu items below from the Debian
# ones.
title Other operating systems:
root


title UnknownOS
root (hd0,0)
makeactive
chainloader +1
boot


title Windows Vista (loader)
root (hd0,0)
makeactive
chainloader +1
boot


=========================== sda2/boot/grub/grub.cfg: ===========================

#
# DO NOT EDIT THIS FILE
#
# It is automatically generated by /usr/sbin/grub-mkconfig using templates
# from /etc/grub.d and settings from /etc/default/grub
#

### BEGIN /etc/grub.d/00_header ###
if [ -s /boot/grub/grubenv ]; then
have_grubenv=true
load_env
fi
set default="0"
if [ ${prev_saved_entry} ]; then
saved_entry=${prev_saved_entry}
save_env saved_entry
prev_saved_entry=
save_env prev_saved_entry
fi
if [ ${recordfail} = 1 ]; then
set timeout=-1
else
set timeout=10
fi
### END /etc/grub.d/00_header ###

### BEGIN /etc/grub.d/05_debian_theme ###
set menu_color_normal=white/black
set menu_color_highlight=black/white
### END /etc/grub.d/05_debian_theme ###

### BEGIN /etc/grub.d/10_linux ###
### END /etc/grub.d/10_linux ###

### BEGIN /etc/grub.d/10_lupin ###
menuentry "Ubuntu, Linux 2.6.31-17-generic" {
insmod ntfs
set root=(hd0,1)
search --no-floppy --fs-uuid --set b81cbe6a1cbe2374
loopback loop0 /ubuntu/disks/root.disk
set root=(loop0)
linux /boot/vmlinuz-2.6.31-17-generic root=/dev/sda1 loop=/ubuntu/disks/root.disk ro quiet splash
initrd /boot/initrd.img-2.6.31-17-generic
}
menuentry "Ubuntu, Linux 2.6.31-17-generic (recovery mode)" {
insmod ntfs
set root=(hd0,1)
search --no-floppy --fs-uuid --set b81cbe6a1cbe2374
loopback loop0 /ubuntu/disks/root.disk
set root=(loop0)
linux /boot/vmlinuz-2.6.31-17-generic root=/dev/sda1 loop=/ubuntu/disks/root.disk ro single
initrd /boot/initrd.img-2.6.31-17-generic
}
menuentry "Ubuntu, Linux 2.6.31-14-generic" {
insmod ntfs
set root=(hd0,1)
search --no-floppy --fs-uuid --set b81cbe6a1cbe2374
loopback loop0 /ubuntu/disks/root.disk
set root=(loop0)
linux /boot/vmlinuz-2.6.31-14-generic root=/dev/sda1 loop=/ubuntu/disks/root.disk ro quiet splash
initrd /boot/initrd.img-2.6.31-14-generic
}
menuentry "Ubuntu, Linux 2.6.31-14-generic (recovery mode)" {
insmod ntfs
set root=(hd0,1)
search --no-floppy --fs-uuid --set b81cbe6a1cbe2374
loopback loop0 /ubuntu/disks/root.disk
set root=(loop0)
linux /boot/vmlinuz-2.6.31-14-generic root=/dev/sda1 loop=/ubuntu/disks/root.disk ro single
initrd /boot/initrd.img-2.6.31-14-generic
}
### END /etc/grub.d/10_lupin ###

### BEGIN /etc/grub.d/20_memtest86+ ###
### END /etc/grub.d/20_memtest86+ ###

### BEGIN /etc/grub.d/30_os-prober ###
menuentry "Windows Vista (loader) (on /dev/sda1)" {
insmod ntfs
set root=(hd0,1)
search --no-floppy --fs-uuid --set b81cbe6a1cbe2374
chainloader +1
}
### END /etc/grub.d/30_os-prober ###

### BEGIN /etc/grub.d/40_custom ###
# This file provides an easy way to add custom menu entries. Simply type the
# menu entries you want to add after this comment. Be careful not to change
# the 'exec tail' line above.
### END /etc/grub.d/40_custom ###

=============================== sda2/etc/fstab: ===============================

# <file system> <mount point> <type> <options> <dump> <pass>
proc /proc proc defaults 0 0
# /dev/sda2
UUID= / ext3 defaults,errors=remount-ro 0 1
# /dev/sda1
UUID= /media/drv0 defaults 0 0


# /dev/sda3
UUID= none swap sw 0 0


=================== sda2: Location of files loaded by Grub: ===================


174.9GB: boot/grub/grub.cfg
174.9GB: boot/grub/menu.lst
174.9GB: boot/grub/stage2
174.9GB: boot/initrd.img-2.6.31-14-generic
174.9GB: boot/initrd.img-2.6.31-17-generic
174.9GB: boot/vmlinuz-2.6.31-14-generic
174.9GB: boot/vmlinuz-2.6.31-17-generic
174.9GB: initrd.img
174.9GB: initrd.img.old
174.9GB: vmlinuz
174.9GB: vmlinuz.old
=======Devices which don't seem to have a corresponding hard drive==============

sdc

[oldfred]

You can run a script from anywhere, the instructions are a little different depending on where it goes and all the older versions defaulted to the desktop.
In the panel with fonts and editing when you are commenting is a code tag (#). If you highlight code with click/mouse (your entire results.txt) then it is a little easier to review.

The conversion did not convert to grub2 but to grub legacy (0.97) as your boot loader and it wrote a very minimal menu.lst which does not have your ubuntu listed. I think the config file is how it is supposed to work but it refers to itself.

You have several choices. You should be able to manually boot from the grub menu, but you have to type in all the commands (tab can help complete the line) and then update from your install. You can chroot into your system from a liveCD and totally reinstall grub legacy or uninstall grub legacy and install grub2. All these will reinstall grub to the MBR but more importantly update menu.lst for old grub or grub.cfg for grub2.

to update and reinstall old grub from liveCD terminal
sudo mount /dev/sda2 /mnt
for i in dev proc sys; do mount --bind /$i /mnt/$i; done
sudo chroot /mnt
sudo update-grub
grub
at grub prompt:
root (hd0,2)
setup (hd0,2)
quit