SLiM Should be the default Xubuntu DM...

[Psumi]

Since

A.) I can't go on a mailing list... see my reason in comment number 5 on this bug (https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xubuntu-meta/+bug/508423).

and

B.) Brainstorm mods will just label it as not an idea, like parole here: http://brainstorm.ubuntu.com/idea/23265/

I want to ask the ubuntu community here on ubuntuforums to help or what they think.

[Hetor]

I'm not a Xubuntu user but I support this.

[earthpigg]

gnome stuff in general is getting more and more tightly integrated and reliant on other gnome stuff.

blah.

gnome stuff should leverage and take advantage of other gnome stuff if it's present, but not depend on it.

imho.

[Barrucadu]

Yes, for the reason given by earthpigg. GNOME stuff works very well with, and depends on, other GNOME stuff.

[chris200x9]

I don't see any need, it's not like gdm has THAT many gnome dependancies.

[dragos240]

Absolutely.

[Glenn nl]

I don't see any need, it's not like gdm has THAT many gnome dependancies.

In Karmic GDM does need the whole gnome-session and crap like the gnome-panel and other gnome stuff.

(No offence to gnome users, i use gnome)


Slim would be one awesome choise, but the upcoming LXDM looks promising as well.
But i would stick with slim.

Example of the beauty of slim, can you imagine this with a xubuntu look and feel? :

http://www.algonet.se/%7Eafb/fedora/slim-fedora-login.jpg

[koleoptero]

for heaven's sake resize that picture or post jus the link.

Nice login window though.

[SuperSonic4]

Jolly good idea. I've got it on the craptop and it looks good

[Tibuda]

I use Slim as my login manager (it is lighter than GDM and prettier than XDM), I don't think it should be the default for Xubuntu, because I don't think it fits the *buntu target audience (beginner users). You know, tweaking xinitrc, pressing F1 to change the session... The user don't need to bother with this right after the system is installed, but what if s/he installs LXDE? He'll have to figure out many stuff on Slim, while GDM will offer the choice right after install.

[K.Mandla]

Ordinarily I would agree with you, but after watching Xubuntu develop for years, I would have to say no. Most people assume Xubuntu is intended as a lightweight alternative to Gnome version of Ubuntu, and that idea is something that has trickled down from its earliest days. That notion gets reinforced a lot around here too, because people still (for reasons I can't understand) recommend it whenever there is a complaint against Ubuntu's performance.

But Xubuntu is nothing like a lightweight distro; it's Ubuntu for people who prefer XFCE over Gnome. The "weight" is roughly the same. Pitching for SLiM or Qingy or even cdm as the desktop manager would be the right thing to do for a distro that has speed and efficiency as its goal, but not Xubuntu.

[ve4cib]

I think at this stage the question of SLiM has nothing to do with Xubuntu being "lighter"; it's about eliminating unnecessary Gnome dependencies in a non-Gnome distro.

Rather than using SLiM it might be better to use GDM-Legacy (the older, less-Gnome-integrated version from Jaunty and earlier). It eliminates most of the newer Gnome dependencies, but still offers the easier configuration for new users -- something Ubuntu has always aimed for.

[Psumi]

I think at this stage the question of SLiM has nothing to do with Xubuntu being "lighter"; it's about eliminating unnecessary Gnome dependencies in a non-Gnome distro.

Rather than using SLiM it might be better to use GDM-Legacy (the older, less-Gnome-integrated version from Jaunty and earlier). It eliminates most of the newer Gnome dependencies, but still offers the easier configuration for new users -- something Ubuntu has always aimed for.

Too bad there isn't a GDM Legacy in karmic: http://packages.ubuntu.com/search?keywords=gdm+legacy&searchon=names&suite=karmic&section=all

Nor lucid: http://packages.ubuntu.com/search?suite=lucid&searchon=names&keywords=gdm%20legacy

[n0dix]

I like the idea. I think it can be an alternative for gdm.

[Grifulkin]

How about cdm, that will make it even lighter? I do like the idea of Slim and GDM is quite heavy. But that being said I haven't used it in a long time. I am partial to cdm now.

[Psumi]

How about cdm, that will make it even lighter? I do like the idea of Slim and GDM is quite heavy. But that being said I haven't used it in a long time. I am partial to cdm now.

cdm isn't in the ubuntu repos, SLiM is (in lucid anyway.)

[ve4cib]

Too bad there isn't a GDM Legacy in karmic: http://packages.ubuntu.com/search?keywords=gdm+legacy&searchon=names&suite=karmic&section=all

Nor lucid: http://packages.ubuntu.com/search?suite=lucid&searchon=names&keywords=gdm%20legacy

It appears to be called "GDM-2.20" in the Karmic repos: http://packages.ubuntu.com/karmic/gdm-2.20

And it's also in Lucid: http://packages.ubuntu.com/lucid/gdm-2.20

[Psumi]

It appears to be called "GDM-2.20" in the Karmic repos: http://packages.ubuntu.com/karmic/gdm-2.20

And it's also in Lucid: http://packages.ubuntu.com/lucid/gdm-2.20

gksu is required. Which will pull a bunch of gnome depends (IE: gconf, etc.) even though it's a gtk app and not a gnome app.

[NoaHall]

gksu is required. Which will pull a bunch of gnome depends (IE: gconf, etc.) even though it's a gtk app and not a gnome app.

Tried the --no-install-recommends flag?

[Psumi]

Tried the --no-install-recommends flag?

Yes.

See the red circles here? http://packages.ubuntu.com/karmic/gksu

they're all deps, which means the no-install-recommends doesn't work.