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k64
January 28th, 2010, 12:37 AM
How do you like Ext4 currently? Of course, it's the default in Ubuntu 9.10 and 10.04 LTS Alpha. Do you guys think it's a very good file system, and how much of a performance increase are you guys having? Please explain your votes.

Dark Aspect
January 28th, 2010, 12:46 AM
How do you like Ext4 currently? Of course, it's the default in Ubuntu 9.10 and 10.04 LTS Alpha. Do you guys think it's a very good file system, and how much of a performance increase are you guys having? Please explain your votes.

Never had problem with it on Arch, But I sadly didn't use it with Ubuntu.

yester64
January 28th, 2010, 12:48 AM
Can't really compare. I used ext4 previously and i haven't noticed either a drop or gain in performance.
I feel ok.

FuturePilot
January 28th, 2010, 01:01 AM
I don't trust it. Never had an issue with Ext3; have had issues with Ext4.

Mike'sHardLinux
January 28th, 2010, 01:04 AM
For me there is no difference, unless it is responsible for the faster boot and shutdown times.

jrusso2
January 28th, 2010, 01:08 AM
I don't trust any of the ext based file systems and have not used them since I have lost data on both ext2 and ext3.

juancarlospaco
January 28th, 2010, 01:12 AM
Rock solid, never failed.

baddog144
January 28th, 2010, 01:20 AM
I haven't really noticed that I'm using it. So I'm happy with it. :D

CharlesA
January 28th, 2010, 01:21 AM
Does that problem where large files become corrupted still exist in EXT4?

FuturePilot
January 28th, 2010, 01:23 AM
Does that problem where large files become corrupted still exist in EXT4?

Apparently so.

CharlesA
January 28th, 2010, 01:35 AM
Apparently so.

I shall stick to EXT3 then.

dragos240
January 28th, 2010, 01:40 AM
I like it. WorksForMe.

nmccrina
January 28th, 2010, 02:20 AM
I haven't noticed any difference, so I said "kind of good".

Grifulkin
January 28th, 2010, 03:31 AM
No, other option. I don't use it, I use XFS.

dmizer
January 28th, 2010, 03:52 AM
Apparently so.

Where's the evidence for this?

k64
January 28th, 2010, 04:07 AM
There is one key difference between Ext3 and Ext4: 64-bit. That's why I prefer Ext4, because it is 64-bit optimized. Not to mention it has support for up to an exabyte of hard drive space (in the form of mounted volumes, of course) so it is perfect for large-scale server deployments.

Grifulkin
January 28th, 2010, 04:09 AM
There is one key difference between Ext3 and Ext4: 64-bit. That's why I prefer Ext4, because it is 64-bit optimized. Not to mention it has support for up to an exabyte of hard drive space (in the form of mounted volumes, of course) so it is perfect for large-scale server deployments.

Who is ever going to need an exabyte of space?

thatguruguy
January 28th, 2010, 04:10 AM
That's a LOT of pirated movies and tunes.

dmizer
January 28th, 2010, 04:32 AM
Who is ever going to need an exabyte of space?


large-scale server deployments.

For example, ext4 handles large file sizes much better than ext3. For that reason, I'm using ext4 for my virtualization server where single files can reach 30+ gig. If you've got a central virtual datacenter, you're looking at giant storage needs.

Grifulkin
January 28th, 2010, 04:39 AM
For example, ext4 handles large file sizes much better than ext3. For that reason, I'm using ext4 for my virtualization server where single files can reach 30+ gig. If you've got a central virtual datacenter, you're looking at giant storage needs.

Can I ask why you use ext4 over say xfs that has a reputation with working with large files better then others?

dmizer
January 28th, 2010, 04:40 AM
Can I ask why you use ext4 over say xfs that has a reputation with working with large files better then others?

Pretty simple really. I have no experience with XFS, while all the ext3 tricks and knowledge I have also works in ext4.

Grifulkin
January 28th, 2010, 04:43 AM
Pretty simple really. I have no experience with XFS, while all the ext3 tricks and knowledge I have also works in ext4.

That definitely works, experience is always a good thing.

JDShu
January 28th, 2010, 04:47 AM
It worked as well a Ext3 did.. really didn't notice anything. I suspect that I won't notice a change when btrfs goes mainstream either.

Queue29
January 28th, 2010, 04:53 AM
Where's the evidence for this?

http://i.imgur.com/v4K6S.png

FuturePilot
January 28th, 2010, 04:57 AM
Where's the evidence for this?

Still not fixed https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/karmic/+source/linux/+bug/453579

dmizer
January 28th, 2010, 05:58 AM
Still not fixed https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/karmic/+source/linux/+bug/453579
Thanks.

/ext4
January 28th, 2010, 06:03 AM
Ext4: How do you feel?


I feel pretty good, thanks. Yourself?

schauerlich
January 28th, 2010, 06:16 AM
I feel pretty good, thanks. Yourself?

In before banned for dupe account. I lol'd though, so, totally worth it.

Dark Aspect
January 28th, 2010, 06:35 AM
Still not fixed https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/karmic/+source/linux/+bug/453579

That problem is fixed in Kernel 2.6.32 (http://www.kernel.org/pub/linux/kernel/v2.6/ChangeLog-2.6.32.1).

chessnerd
January 28th, 2010, 06:58 AM
I didn't vote.

I don't feel that ext4 had any major performance increase for me, nor do I blame it for Karmic's issues. Those faults belong to the OS and applications, not the underlying file system.

At the same time, it's also not just "kind of good." I think it's plenty solid. It survived a few hard-boots without data loss and seems a *bit* faster than ext3.

From about 3.5 months of use, I can say that I am satisfied as a user and will be using it for my Linux installs for the foreseeable future.

cronos
January 28th, 2010, 10:02 AM
I don't really have enough experience with ext3, so I don't know if ext4 is better. But, ext4 used to freeze a lot when I was using Ubuntu 9.04.. However, ext4 on Ubuntu 9.10 seems very stable.

I did not know that there is a possibility of losing data for files larger than 512mb. Scary! I have a lot of movies on my HD. As far as I know, I don't have any corrupted files.

5dolla
January 28th, 2010, 10:16 AM
it feels solid.

Zoot7
January 28th, 2010, 12:08 PM
I'm still on the fence about it, and I most certainly wouldn't go trusting a lot of data to it.
That said, the root partition on most of my Linux installs is Ext4, but my home and data partitions are going to stay Ext3 for a long time to come yet.

ukripper
January 28th, 2010, 12:15 PM
It is excellent FS! Using it since jaunty beta days and never looked back. Though my servers are still running ext3.

JohnFH
January 28th, 2010, 02:08 PM
I used it for quite a while (6 months to a year), and it was faster than ext3 but I encountered 'that' bug and lost some data. Now I'm back to ext3. I would strongly advise against using it unless you are running kernel 2.6.32 or above. It may work for you now, like it did for me for a while, but that data loss risk is a definite risk.

llawwehttam
January 28th, 2010, 02:19 PM
I am running 64 bit ubuntu 2.6.31-17-generic on ext4 and have noticed it is faster. Also I have several large dvd iso's ( ie about 8GB) as I back up my favorite movies and I have never had corruption. Besides I thought that problem was fixed a while back.

EDIT: I don't know how long it will be till ext is abandoned for Btrfs anyway.

ukripper
January 28th, 2010, 03:36 PM
I used it for quite a while (6 months to a year), and it was faster than ext3 but I encountered 'that' bug and lost some data. Now I'm back to ext3. I would strongly advise against using it unless you are running kernel 2.6.32 or above. It may work for you now, like it did for me for a while, but that data loss risk is a definite risk.

That is why backup is always advised in any case ext3 or ext4 irrespective.

"No-backup makes man to lose data, not the filesystem."

whiskeylover
January 28th, 2010, 03:38 PM
Why are multiple choices selectable in this poll? Its not like it made my apps crash and thats why I love it.

Besides, where is the option for "neutral"?

k64
January 28th, 2010, 04:21 PM
Considering I have downloaded a CD image of Ubuntu 10.04 LTS Alpha 2 on a Karmic installation with Ext4 and the .ISO image didn't get corrupted, I haven't gotten any large file corruption on Ext4, 3, or 2.

I also have downloaded the Foresight image (though I haven't used it) on Linpus Lite, and haven't gotten any corruption of the image.

Also: The Foresight image is larger than the Ubuntu 10.04 image.

nrs
January 29th, 2010, 12:07 AM
It's fine, I enjoy it. I'm sceptical of people going "OMG PERFORMANCE@". It is faster, but filesystem performance isn't generally something people running desktop machines will notice.

Jackelope
January 29th, 2010, 12:40 AM
i just clean installed 9.10 with ext3 because i read that the modifications to ext4 to improve reliability pretty much made it slower than ext3. So far, I'm having less stability issues than I did on ext4. Gnome-do would crash constantly, for example. Since I've only had the new install a day, it's too soon to tell if ext3 is really helping, but it sure seems better. However, boot is a tad slower.

Anyone know if the recent fix for ext4 really makes it slower than ext3? I'd really like to go back to ext4 if I know its solid.