This is why IE8 is better ~~ sign: Microsoft

[Ylon]

Myth #1: Internet Explorer is much slower than Firefox and Chrome.

The Real Deal: In tests, Internet Explorer 8 performs as well or better than Firefox and Chrome.

Browser speed can be measured in a number of ways, but what matters most is how quickly you're able to get things done while navigating the Web. After all, 80% of online activities are based around navigation. Watch this video to see how Internet Explorer 8 stacks up against the competition when it comes to getting things done.

That's why our Accelerator, Web Slice, Smart Address Bar, and Visual Search features make it faster, safer, and easier than ever for you to do what you need to do on the Web, giving you an overall better experience. Check out this document to see for yourself.

A lot of Firefox and Chrome advocates like to cling to micro-benchmarking page load claims to measure browser speed. But in most cases, these differences can only be viewed by slow-motion video captures, and they just don't represent real world examples. If you're still hung up on millisecond page load times to gauge performance, watch this video for a head-to-head comparison.

Myth #2: Internet Explorer is less secure than Firefox.

The Real Deal: Research proves that Internet Explorer 8 catches almost twice as much malware than the competition. That's "less secure?"

Internet Explorer was the first browser to integrate features that protect you against phishing and malware, and the first to embed domain highlighting, Cross-Site scripting protection, InPrivate filtering—the list goes on and on. It involves a lot of technical jargon, but the point is, Internet Explorer 8 is the only browser to offer this level of security right out of the box.

Since the Beta 2 release last spring, SmartScreen filter has blocked over 8 million malware and phishing scams, and projections show that it's on target for over 1 million blocks per day. Research shows that Internet Explorer 8 catches almost twice as much malware as its closest competition. And with a Security Response Center and 24/7 phone support, Internet Explorer 8 has the ability to respond faster than any other browser when a new attack is released into the wild. What other browser can say that?

To see all of the nitty-gritty details, read this security whitepaper or check out this NSS Labs study.

Myth #3: Firefox is a richer, more adaptable browser than Internet Explorer.

The Real Deal: Internet Explorer 8 has much more functionality than other browsers, built in from the minute you open it.

Internet Explorer 8 has much more functionality than other browsers, and its functionality is there from the moment you open the browser. Internet Explorer 8 offers almost all of the features the most popular add-ons in Firefox have, and you're able to personalize your browser in a way that saves you time and research.

Did you know that there are more than 1,700 Internet Explorer 8 add-ons available at the Add-ons Gallery, with more being added every day? Partners all over the world are building Accelerators, Web slices, and Visual Search plug-ins for your browser, including Facebook, Amazon, eBay, and much more.

yth #4: Internet Explorer doesn't play well with Web standards.

The Real Deal: Internet Explorer 8 passes more of the World Wide Web Consortium's test cases than any other browser.

Microsoft made a big commitment to standards with Internet Explorer 8. In addition to passing more of the official CSS 2.1 test suites than any other browser, Microsoft got really hands-on in the overall testing process by developing and contributing thousands of new tests for the consortium.

But what does that really mean? It means that developers will be able to spend more time designing cool new features for their site, and less time tweaking code for specific browsers. Microsoft put significant effort into make sure sites still work, even if they're designed for older versions of Internet Explorer, by giving users a Compatibility View button.

At the end of the day, Internet Explorer 8 truly is more reliable than ever.
http://www.microsoft.com/windows/internet-explorer/get-the-facts/mythbusting.aspx

:popcorn:

Let's open the analysis.

My opinion: Microsoft preform well their test... everyday I woke up, I would be able to remember my night dream as Microsoft does :KS

[Techsnap]

Wow, A company promoting their own products, how weird.

[Ylon]

Wow, A company promoting their own products, how weird.

And.. it's tabu talk about it?

A company talks with the public: why we shouldn't listen and valuate?


Aren't we... public?

[Techsnap]

I was being sarcastic. Before the fanboys get here.

[Mornedhel]

I was being sarcastic. Before the fanboys get here.

This is the Cafe. Any thread with the slightest possibility to devolve into a flamewar will devolve into a flamewar.

[The Toxic Mite]

Yet another bad example of fear, uncertainty and doubt.

[juancarlospaco]

Firefox or Midori (apt:/midori)
:)

[Simon17]

How surprising. Yet more FUD from M$, a convicted monopolist.

[pwnst*r]

This is the Cafe. Any thread with the slightest possibility to devolve into a flamewar will devolve into a flamewar.

Which will happen when other OS's are ripped on.

[blueshiftoverwatch]

I can't vouch that IE8 isn't better at #1-3. But in category #4 no other browser comes close.

[The Toxic Mite]

How surprising. Yet more FUD from M$, a convicted monopolist.

this^^

[Techsnap]

The Toxic Mite has never heard of advertising and product promotion.

[The Toxic Mite]

The Toxic Mite has never heard of advertising and product promotion.

I beg to differ... :|

[Techsnap]

If you ran your own business and wanted to sell your product would you say anything bad about it, I think not?

[The Toxic Mite]

If you ran your own business and wanted to sell your product would you say anything bad about it, I think not?

FUD isn't the way to go. That's all I will say for now ;)

[Techsnap]

FUD works both ways, none of that stuff posted in the first post is necessarily FUD. Oh well I'm not going to argue with someone who only just switched to Linux pretending to be all FOSS or nothing.

[The Toxic Mite]

FUD works both ways, none of that stuff posted in the first post is necessarily FUD. Oh well I'm not going to argue with someone who only just switched to Linux pretending to be all FOSS or nothing.

Great, a person who accuses me of being a FOSS purist. Well, you know what? I don't care what I use, as long as I can easily and legally get it for free.

[Techsnap]

Nahh I'm not accusing you as being a FOSS purist. I'm saying that when a lot of people first get into FOSS they start this crap that Microsoft is full of FUD etc. No FOSS purist would be running Ubuntu anyways.

[Mornedhel]

Yup, flamewar.

[NoaHall]

Yo mama!

[The Toxic Mite]

Nahh I'm not accusing you as being a FOSS purist. I'm saying that when a lot of people first get into FOSS they start this crap that Microsoft is full of FUD etc. No FOSS purist would be running Ubuntu anyways.

But Microsoft abuses their position in the market.

OK, if you think that I'm a FOSS purist, go ahead and blurt that out on the UF fail megathread on Linsux, I'm sure everyone will be happy.

[Techsnap]

I just said, No FOSS purist would be using Ubuntu, so you're not.

[The Toxic Mite]

I just said, No FOSS purist would be using Ubuntu, so you're not.

Pretty obvious, innit.

[peakshysteria]

None above FF 3.6. Hassled a bit with the latest version. Tried Opera for a few minutes. Hated it as usual. IE? Nah, Don't understand it. No logic to it.

My FF setup:

Last updated: Mon, 25 Jan 2010 22:56:02 GMT
User Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i686; en-US; rv:1.9.2) Gecko/20100115 Firefox/3.6

Extensions (enabled: 20, disabled: 1; total: 21)

Autohide (http://www.krickelkrackel.de/autohide/) 1.3.1
Dictionary Switcher (http://en.design-noir.de/mozilla/dictionary-switcher/) 1.0.1
Dictionary Tooltip (http://www.dictionarytip.com) 1.5
DownloadHelper (http://www.downloadhelper.net) 4.7
Flashblock (http://flashblock.mozdev.org/) 1.5.11.2
Forecastfox (http://forecastfox.mozdev.org/) 0.9.10.1
Greasemonkey (http://www.greasespot.net/) 0.8.20091209.4
Highlighter (http://hashcolouredtabs.mozdev.org/highlighter/) 0.1.4
InfoLister (http://mozilla.doslash.org/infolister) 0.10.3
last.fmCode (http://mll2.free.fr/?p=42) 0.7b
Linkification (http://yellow5.us/firefox/linkification/) 1.3.7
Locationbar² (http://en.design-noir.de/mozilla/locationbar2/) 1.0.4
Nightly Tester Tools (http://www.oxymoronical.com/web/firefox/nightly) 2.0.3
2.0.10.0
[url=http://www.getpersonas.com/]Personas (]Norsk Bokmål og Nynorsk ordliste[/url) 1.5.1
SmoothWheel (AMO) (http://smoothwheel.mozdev.org/) 0.44.19.20090811.3
Tab Mix Plus (http://tmp.garyr.net) 0.3.8.2
Text Link (http://piro.sakura.ne.jp/xul/_textlink.html.en) 3.1.2009110201 [disabled]
Tiny Menu (http://trac.arantius.com/wiki/Extensions/TinyMenu) 2.0.2
0.8
[url=http://www.oxymoronical.com/web/firefox/updatechannel]Update Channel Selector (]Ubuntu Firefox Modifications[/url) 1.5


Themes (6)

Camifox
Chromifox Basic
Daum Firefox용 테마
Default [selected]
Dustfox
Elementary


Plugins

Default Plugin
DivX® Web Player
iTunes Application Detector
Java(TM) Plug-in 1.6.0_16
QuickTime Plug-in 7.2.0
Shockwave Flash
VLC Multimedia Plugin (compatible Totem 2.28.2)
Windows Media Player Plug-in 10 (compatible; Totem)


+ killed the dreaded Awesomebar (useless for my rides).

Now flying smooth as ever. Been on it since the Phoenix and Firebird days :)

[Simon17]

Attention Ubuntu Forums shoppers: This thread will be closing shortly. Please make your final flames and proceed to the checkout.

[The Toxic Mite]

Attention Ubuntu Forums shoppers: This thread will be closing shortly. Please make your final flames and proceed to the checkout.

Microsoft sucks. End of story.

[Techsnap]

Linux Youths Suck. Do we get receipts with that BTW Simon?

[The Toxic Mite]

Linux Youths Suck. Do we get receipts with that BTW Simon?

I have had enough of you. :evil:

[yester64]

I can't vouch that IE8 isn't better at #1-3. But in category #4 no other browser comes close.

Is this the reason why some pages say 'best viewed with internet explorer'?
I think the reason why IE perform at #4 better is, that most pages are build to be displayed best with IE.

[Shibblet]

Virus Scanners, Firewalls, Spyware, Malware, Adware, Security...

None of these stand a chance against "Click Here."

So Microsoft can claim all they want... it's still up to the end user.

[Zoot7]

More or less the lot of it is a fabrication on their part really.

My answer - never swallow marketing hype about any product.

[The Toxic Mite]

Virus Scanners, Firewalls, Spyware, Malware, Adware, Security...

None of these stand a chance against "Click Here."

So Microsoft can claim all they want... it's still up to the end user.

Like I said, FUD is not the way to go. -1

EDIT:


More or less the lot of it is a fabrication on their part really.

My answer - never swallow marketing hype about any product.

this^^

[phrostbyte]

LOL. Microsoft.

[Frak]

But Microsoft abuses their position in the market.

I... don't see how that is possible...

People say that, but if you have the power, is it really abuse to stop competition?

[Frak]

More or less the lot of it is a fabrication on their part really.

My answer - never swallow marketing hype about any product.
This.

[The Toxic Mite]

I... don't see how that is possible...

People say that, but if you have the power, is it really abuse to stop competition?

Yes, it is.

I wish that Bill Gates had never lived... hadn't it been for him, M$ wouldn't exist, and the number of flame wars like this would be greatly reduced.

[The Toxic Mite]

Wow, I'm surprised that this thread hasn't been jailed yet -_-

[Mornedhel]

I wish that Bill Gates had never lived... hadn't it been for him, M$ wouldn't exist, and the number of flame wars like this would be greatly reduced.

Heh heh heh.

Flamewars were around before Microsoft, and many flamewars do not involve Microsoft at all. Clearly you've never argued on which text editor is the best.

(The answer, evidently, is GNU Emacs.)

[Techsnap]

Shows how immature you are when you say things like that, and then you add the M$ part of it which makes even more people take you less seriously.

They wouldn't the next big OS with the most marketshare would be in its place, getting flamed for similar reasons.


(The answer, evidently, is GNU Emacs.)

Oh.. ermm.. Kwrite heh

[Zoot7]

LOL. Microsoft.
LOL indeed, but then again when do you ever get a company (no matter how big/small) advertising negatively about their own product.


People say that, but if you have the power, is it really abuse to stop competition?
Not according to capitalism no, but public interest or "morality" doesn't really feature in a truly coporate world sadly.

[The Toxic Mite]

Shows how immature you are when you say things like that, and then you add the M$ part of it which makes even more people take you less seriously.

They wouldn't the next big OS with the most marketshare would be in its place, getting flamed for similar reasons.



Oh.. ermm.. Kwrite heh

Are you seriously accusing me of being immature?! You're the one that started this flame war in the first place!

Get back to Linsux, you creep!

EDIT:


(The answer, evidently, is GNU Emacs.)

Joint first - GNU nano :P

[juancarlospaco]

http://img716.imageshack.us/img716/766/tempd.jpg


http://acid3.acidtests.org/

[Techsnap]

You signed up there :P


Get back to Linsux, you creep!

Actually get Linsux out of the equation here, this is Ubuntu Forums, we don't need to discuss Linsux where you clearly don't know what the site is about.

[Shibblet]

I... don't see how that is possible...

People say that, but if you have the power, is it really abuse to stop competition?

It is when you're telling lies. People don't really see how much of an impact the media has on people's minds.

Look at how people think after they watch a political commentator, or sports announcer giving his opinion. Microsoft throws something into the media, it may as well be gospel.

More people need to figure things out for themselves, as opposed to being influenced by what others think.

[The Toxic Mite]

http://img716.imageshack.us/img716/766/tempd.jpg


http://acid3.acidtests.org/



Nice :)

my FF 3.5 got 93/100 - not too bad :)

[Zoot7]

Are you seriously accusing me of being immature?! You're the one that started this flame war in the first place!

Get back to Linsux, you creep!
Does everything have to end in a flamewar here? :tongue:

[The Toxic Mite]

You signed up there :P

Yes, I know that but I stopped using it because of how volatile it is.


Actually get Linsux out of the equation here, this is Ubuntu Forums, we don't need to discuss Linsux where you clearly don't know what the site is about.

Linsux is a websited designed to flame Linux.

[pwnst*r]

Tears in recurring, please.

[Grifulkin]

Yes, I know that but I stopped using it because of how volatile it is.



Linsux is a websited designed to flame Linux.

Lolz, wrong is wrong.

[Techsnap]

Linsux is a websited designed to flame Linux.

Most of us there use Linux, so you're totally wrong. Anyway keep this off UF, if you want to discuss it do it over there not here.

[The Toxic Mite]

Most of us there use Linux, so you're totally wrong. Anyway keep this off UF, if you want to discuss it do it over there not here.

Smart alec Techsnap is a smart alec.

[Techsnap]

No come on, in all fairness why would anyone want to keep posting about another forum on Ubuntuforums, they have enough to deal with, if you have a question about Linsux, then you're best to post it on the right forum.

[The Toxic Mite]

No come on, in all fairness why would anyone want to keep posting about another forum on Ubuntuforums, they have enough to deal with, if you have a question about Linsux, then you're best to post it on the right forum.

Fine!

I reported this thread, and I'm going to make a complaint in the Resolution Center. Happy now? :mad:

[pwnst*r]

lol, WOW.

[Mornedhel]

Well, this was fun...

[Shibblet]

http://4o4.at/img/flamewar/flamewar_kitten.jpg

[Bölvaður]

Is this the reason why some pages say 'best viewed with internet explorer'?
I think the reason why IE perform at #4 better is, that most pages are build to be displayed best with IE.

he was sarcastic.

1,2 and 3 might be debatable but 4 really isn't. Ie is the terrorists of webstandards. remember when they tried to make their own set of standards to undermine the webstandards... that is... they wanted to rule the web, so the moment MS goes under the web goes bananas.

[marshmallow1304]

"Phfft! Facts. You can use them to prove anything." - Homer Simpson


That pretty much sums up advertising.

[The Toxic Mite]

"Phfft! Facts. You can use them to prove anything." - Homer Simpson


That pretty much sums up advertising.

FUD != facts.

[KiwiNZ]

But Microsoft abuses their position in the market.

OK, if you think that I'm a FOSS purist, go ahead and blurt that out on the UF fail megathread on Linsux, I'm sure everyone will be happy.

We are NOT going to have inter site Wars period

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