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Mariane
January 24th, 2010, 09:35 PM
I spent the whole day trying to get my headphones to work. And part of every single day in the preceeding week, too. They still don't work.

Mariane

yester64
January 24th, 2010, 09:40 PM
Sorry to hear that.
Perhaps they are broken inside. Cable can be an issue. Happend to my mine.

The Toxic Mite
January 24th, 2010, 09:40 PM
I spent the whole day trying to get my headphones to work. And part of every single day in the preceeding week, too. They still don't work.

Mariane

Let's face it: if headphones don't work, they don't work.

Got $10 to spare? Buy new ones! ;)

cammin
January 24th, 2010, 09:40 PM
Maybe it's time for a new set of headphones.

NoaHall
January 24th, 2010, 09:42 PM
There are worse things happening in the world. Get over yourself.

Mariane
January 24th, 2010, 09:42 PM
The headphones are not the problem, I tried 3 pairs which work on another computer. I can't redirect the sound to the headphone jack.

Mariane

k64
January 24th, 2010, 09:44 PM
The whole point of open source software is fixing the problems yourself.

Unless, of course, it involves hardware not working. Especially networking hardware, because if your Wi-Fi isn't working, you can't access any other drivers.

Mariane
January 24th, 2010, 09:45 PM
There are worse things happening in the world.


Yes. And having my neighbour complaining about noise is shortly going to become one of them ;)

k64
January 24th, 2010, 09:45 PM
The headphones are not the problem, I tried 3 pairs which work on another computer. I can't redirect the sound to the headphone jack.

Mariane

Probably it's your sound card that's the problem. Have you tried disabling PulseAudio? ALSA works much better.

Mariane
January 24th, 2010, 09:49 PM
Probably it's your sound card that's the problem. Have you tried disabling PulseAudio? ALSA works much better.

Everybody says alsa is better, but no-one has yet told me how to get rid of *** pulseaudio

k64
January 24th, 2010, 09:51 PM
Everybody says alsa is better, but no-one has yet told me how to get rid of *** pulseaudio

In a Terminal:


sudo killall pulseaudio

Edit: If you want to get rid of PulseAudio permanently:


sudo apt-get purge pulseaudio

yester64
January 24th, 2010, 09:57 PM
The headphones are not the problem, I tried 3 pairs which work on another computer. I can't redirect the sound to the headphone jack.

Mariane

Then it might be the plugin. I don't think its a driver. Is there a way you can check if sound comes out anyhow? Like speakers?

llawwehttam
January 24th, 2010, 09:57 PM
In a Terminal:


sudo killall pulseaudioEdit: If you want to get rid of PulseAudio permanently:


sudo apt-get purge pulseaudio

Problem being gnome-desktop depends on pulseaudio


llawwehttam@Deadlock:~$ apt remove pulseaudio
Reading package lists... Done
Building dependency tree
Reading state information... Done
The following packages will be REMOVED
libcanberra-pulse pulseaudio pulseaudio-esound-compat
pulseaudio-module-bluetooth pulseaudio-module-gconf pulseaudio-module-udev
pulseaudio-module-x11 ubuntu-desktop
0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 8 to remove and 4 not upgraded.
After this operation, 5,325kB disk space will be freed.
Do you want to continue [Y/n]?


You might not want to do this.

I would love to remove pulse but its too intertwined with ubuntu at the moment.

And to answer the first post I do secretly enjoy troubleshooting!........ if I have time to kill. It can be nice to have at least one stable machine.
And yes I am one of those geeks who breaks things simply to fix them again. I can't help it, its just the way I learn.:lolflag:

EDIT: and in the code above I have an alias line as follows.


alias apt='sudo apt-get'

Zoot7
January 24th, 2010, 09:58 PM
Edit: If you want to get rid of PulseAudio permanently:


sudo apt-get purge pulseaudio
That works but, if you're using Karmic you'll soon find your media keys won't function and there's no gnome volume control as there once was.

I think the only way actually remove it and just use Alsa with no reduced functionality (as you could in earlier releases) is to fetch the source code for gnome-applets and gnome-media from the Debian Testing/Unstable repository and build it yourself against Ubuntu.

NoaHall
January 24th, 2010, 10:02 PM
I'm not using pulseaudio at all, I've made my media controls work better than they did before.
Easy.


sudo apt-get remove --purge pulseaudio*
sudo apt-get --purge remove linux-sound-base alsa-base alsa-utils
sudo apt-get install linux-sound-base alsa-base alsa-utils
sudo apt-get alsa-source

Then, to enable the volume control on my keyboard, I did this -

System -> Preferences -> Keyboard Settings -> Add ->

Then, -

Name : Volume Up
Command : amixer set Master 1%+
Keyboard Shortcut: Press your "volume up" button

Name : Volume Down
Command : amixer set Master 1%-
Keyboard Shortcut: Press your "volume down" button

Name : Volume Mute/Unmute
Command : amixer sset Master toggle
Keyboard Shortcut: Press of "mute" button

NoaHall
January 24th, 2010, 10:03 PM
Yes. And having my neighbour complaining about noise is shortly going to become one of them ;)

You know, most speakers have a little turny thing. It's for "turning it down" ;)

k64
January 24th, 2010, 10:04 PM
A better idea:


sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop

Use KDE instead of GNOME.

llawwehttam
January 24th, 2010, 10:09 PM
A better idea:


sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktopUse KDE instead of GNOME.

no thanks because KDE ( since 4.0) is the most cluttered and saggy bug ridden piece of junk.

k64
January 24th, 2010, 10:14 PM
no thanks because KDE ( since 4.0) is the most cluttered and saggy bug ridden piece of junk.

Changed:


sudo apt-get install xubuntu-desktop

XFCE all along.

BETATEST
January 24th, 2010, 10:29 PM
The whole point of open source software is fixing the problems yourself.

That's not the point at all for Open Source. :confused:

nmccrina
January 24th, 2010, 10:42 PM
That's not the point at all for Open Source. :confused:

Well, yeah, kind of the point of Open Source is to allow developers to tweak things the way they want/need them. If you can't program, there really isn't a difference between open source and proprietary software, except price. Unless zealous Linux fanatics have brainwashed you. :P

Yes
January 24th, 2010, 10:48 PM
You sure the headphone jack isn't just broken?

cammin
January 24th, 2010, 10:57 PM
I don't use gnome anymore but i remember having a similar problem getting my mic to work.

The volume control should have a setting somewhere that lets you change the device it controls. The options should look like:
Device0: 1 analog output 1 analog input
Device1: 2 digital output 1 analog input
Device2: 2 analog output 2 digital output

.etc

If you mess around with the device being used, one of them should have output to the headphone jack.

Some intel hda audio cards like to play sound out of the speakers even if the headphones are connected.


If all else fails, you can plug the headphones into the speaker jack in the back. At least it will keep the neighbors off your back.




Problem being gnome-desktop depends on pulseaudio


llawwehttam@Deadlock:~$ apt remove pulseaudio
Reading package lists... Done
Building dependency tree
Reading state information... Done
The following packages will be REMOVED
libcanberra-pulse pulseaudio pulseaudio-esound-compat
pulseaudio-module-bluetooth pulseaudio-module-gconf pulseaudio-module-udev
pulseaudio-module-x11 ubuntu-desktop
0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 8 to remove and 4 not upgraded.
After this operation, 5,325kB disk space will be freed.
Do you want to continue [Y/n]?




Ubuntu-desktop is a metapackage. it installs nothing of it's own, but has a bunch of dependencies that make up the stuff in a normal Ubuntu install. Removing it won't uninstall any of those dependencies so it's fine to get rid of it.

Mariane
January 24th, 2010, 10:58 PM
You sure the headphone jack isn't just broken?

No I'm not. The way I test that is by plugging in headphones or external speakers. When I do this the headphones or external speakers don't work. The laptop speakers still work.

Now I have no pulseaudio anymore and my problem remains.

Correlated or uncorrelated weird thing is that if I type
say hi
I hear "hi hi"
everything after "say" has an echo at the end. I think it's a symptom that the problem is software related.

Mariane

chessnerd
January 24th, 2010, 11:01 PM
I had the same issue with my laptop. Onboard sound worked, but the headphone didn't. My post about it is here: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1265116 and the third post down has a link to the article that fixed it.

Hope this helps you.

steveneddy
January 24th, 2010, 11:04 PM
You know, most speakers have a little turny thing. It's for "turning it down" ;)

I Googled for that phrase - turny thing - and didn't find it.

Is this something new in Karmic?

:popcorn:

FuturePilot
January 24th, 2010, 11:05 PM
Try muting the "Front" channel in the sound mixer.

Mariane
January 24th, 2010, 11:38 PM
Try muting the "Front" channel in the sound mixer.

Didn't change much. Maybe the sound got marginally quieter. The column over "Headphones" is at zero and won't go up no matter what other column I raise or lower.


I had the same issue with my laptop. Onboard sound worked, but the headphone didn't. My post about it is here: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1265116 and the third post down has a link to the article that fixed it.

Hope this helps you.

Thank you, apart from re-installing alsa it is at least something new to try. I'll do it tomorrow, now I'm going to watch a movie - and my neighbour will just have to bear the sound of it.

Mariane

steveneddy
January 25th, 2010, 01:00 AM
You got paper walls there or something?

dragos240
January 25th, 2010, 01:23 AM
I love troubleshooting. It's fun :)

lisati
January 25th, 2010, 01:32 AM
I Googled for that phrase - turny thing - and didn't find it.

Is this something new in Karmic?

:popcorn:
Not sure if there's sarcasm here: I refer to the "turny" thing on my laptop as a volume control.......

And I just discovered this morning that part of me not getting my email server accessible from the outside world was that even though I'd changed my broadband password @ my ISPs website I still had to use the old one...... odd that the modem was able to connect with the "wrong" password.

Mariane
January 25th, 2010, 06:42 PM
You got paper walls there or something?


I'm hard of hearing but unfortunately my neighbour is not :P

Mariane

Tristam Green
January 25th, 2010, 06:46 PM
Especially networking hardware, because if your Wi-Fi isn't working, you can't access any other drivers.

LOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOL

Penny, you crack me up.

audiomick
January 25th, 2010, 07:17 PM
The whole point of open source software is fixing the problems yourself.

Not quite. It is not the whole point, and it is the possibility to find out how to fix it for yourself, even if you choose to pay someone to do it for you.

Expressed that way, that is one of my main reasons for using linux.

SuperSonic4
January 25th, 2010, 07:28 PM
Yeah I like to troubleshoot although sometimes it's annoying. Compiling mplayer from SVN without a GUI and then adding smplayer makes it the best media player I've ever used.