Plz HELP !!!!!!!!!

[llawwehttam]

Duz any1 h8 it wen u se a title lyke the 1 abve and the prblm is in txtx lnguge and u cnt rely undstand it and u jst get frstrated and it maks u not help.

TRANSLATION: Do you hate people who can't type something legible even when perfectly capable?

[Techsnap]

Yes, when I know that they're capable of using full English. I'm more understanding with people when English is not their first language, and grammar and spelling doesn't bother me, it's not an English exam. However I don't like it that stupid "txt/aim" talk.

[llawwehttam]

I know what you mean. Just to clarify, this poll is NOT aimed against people who do not have English as their first language, this poll is about those who can speak English fluently but still choose to type in unreadable gibberish.

[Berk]

I'm even guilty of this with people I know in real life.

If they ask me for help online (via email, facebook etc) and it is in gibberish then I have a habit of not getting the message in time, this becomes even more likely if they're people on my course at Uni, who really, should know better.

[TyrantWave]

Depends. If they use a few abbreviations that aren't needed, it'll irk me but I'll still help.

If they use typical AOL gibberish speak, no I won't. They can't be bother to make their question readable, why should we be bothered to answer it?

[mharrison]

For me, the full on txt speech is enough to drive me crazy. But if someone throws in a few "u"'s or plz's, it doesn't bother me as much. No matter what, I'll still see if I can help, and maybe just hint that they try wording their questions in full english. But, seeing as how I am still in the "noob" level, I don't know how much help I will be able to give anyone.

[Lightstar]

If they don't care enough to spell, I don't care enough to help. I can handle typos without problems, but that "text speech" crap is annoying. And once you know proper english, it's not harder to type a full word. Sure on those phones with multiple-letters on each button, it can take longer. That's not an excuse to write that bad.

I also can't handle parents who teach wrong words to babies.
wawa = water ?
mimi = milk ?
etc
Poor kid has to learn the language twice.

[RiceMonster]

Yup, drives me crazy. A web forum isn't an IM chat. I don't even type like that in text messages or IM's, actually.

[jwbrase]

It does bother me a bit, but a big part of me hates confrontation, so I try to ignore it.

Plus, looking back on my life so far, there are more things I regret that have to do with acting 10 or 20 years above my age than 10 or 20 years below it, so I always feel a bit guilty for getting irritated with people that do act 10 or 20 years younger.

[MelDJ]

Yup, drives me crazy. A web forum isn't an IM chat. .

same with me.
but i do type like that when texting to fit the text in 1 message

[Eisenwinter]

Yup, drives me crazy. A web forum isn't an IM chat. I don't even type like that in text messages or IM's, actually.
Same for me. It really annoys me, to the point where I'll simply ignore that person completely.

[jwbrase]

/biɪŋ ə lɪŋgwɪstɪks mainɚ, ai hæv bɛn nəun tu rəit ləik thɪs æt taimz/

[overdrank]

TRANSLATION: Do you hate idiots who can't type something legible even when perfectly capable?

Calling them idiots is not helping. :)

[JDShu]

No. People can type however they want, its not my place to judge them. If I can read it then I will do what I can to help. The particular example by the OP is very readable, so I would have no problem. However if they typed something that has to take a significant amount of time to decipher, then I would choose not to spend that time deciphering.

[SuperSonic4]

Yes, everyone makes typos so that's not a reason to not help. With the exception of those for whom English isn't a first language if there are common grammatical errors I won't help

[JSeymour]

If somebody shows up, asking for help, and can't be bothered to take the time to type completely- and properly-spelled words, I can't be bothered to spend my time helping them. I especially dislike "u" in place of "you," "r" in place of "are," etc.

Note: The above most definitely does not apply to those I suspect that for whom English of some flavour is not their native language. (Well, except for the "u" and "r" thing.)

In on-line company I know, I'll purposely use colloquialisms, l33tsp33k, purposeful misspelling (such as "wunnerful") and so-on. Otherwise I'll occasionally use "tho" in place of "though," and "thru" in place of "through," but those are generally accepted informal alternative spellings.

[ankspo71]

Duz any1 h8 it wen u se a title lyke the 1 abve and the prblm is in txtx lnguge and u cnt rely undstand it and u jst get frstrated and it maks u not help.

TRANSLATION: Do you hate idiots who can't type something legible even when perfectly capable?

I'll try to help anyone, but it's alot harder on me to read things like what you just said. Sometimes I don't know what people are asking when they use words like that, so I can't help them at all. Plain English is hard enough, and it's the only language I know lol.

[chessnerd]

It's like nails on a chalkboard, but I still try to help them (and sometimes tell them that they should clarify things by using normal English). Some people just love to use IMspeak. I never do (even on IM) but that's just me.

Now, if they also respond to my help in IMspeak after I tell them that they shouldn't use it, then I might get a little mad... :x

[madnessjack]

I am not prejudice, so this does not affect my response.

[RabbitWho]

Duz any1 h8 it wen u se a title lyke the 1 abve and the prblm is in txtx lnguge and u cnt rely undstand it and u jst get frstrated and it maks u not help.

TRANSLATION: Do you hate idiots who can't type something legible even when perfectly capable?

Maybe someone has pointed this out already but:

*Not really too bothered


Maybe you should take a look at yourself before you start name calling.

[scouser73]

Using text writing to ask for help or anything is annoying, but I'd try and decipher what was being asked and help out from there. I think that the forums should ban that type of writing really, it serves no purpose.

[Leppie]

Calling them idiots is not helping. :)
they aren't helping us to help them by using stupid titles and horrible writing.
also people get upset if you don't understand straight away what they mean (even if they wrote something completely different).

[azagaros]

The language of the post does't generally turn me off. It is looking a question some times with a point of arrogance and the stupidity sometimes.

did we put the 2 cents into thought first? I do understand there are no stupid questions but sometimes you wonder how low you have to lower your intelligence to get an answer out.

at a pc users group...A person asks about moving a file from a system to a drive to another drive and he is curious about the if the attributes of a file maintaining on Encrypted files. Say from NTFS to Fat32 to Ext2/3/4. He didn't like the basic answers I gave, from the perspective of writing and maintaining os code...

I would like to see help no matter this, but I do understand if the question might be out of your league in the first place.

[NCLI]

I will avoid people like that, yes. It annoys me, and since I'm using me free time on this, I can choose to let someone else help them.

[lykwydchykyn]

Honestly it depends on my mood and how bored I am.

It's not that I'm so full of myself that I can't deign to read something with grammatical or spelling errors. It's that this nonsense is hard to read and decipher.

If I have reason to suspect they aren't native English speakers, I'll make the effort since they made the effort to write in a non-native tongue.

[d3v1150m471c]

I'll help anyone unless they're being malicious or I simply cannot understand them.

[Chronon]

/biɪŋ ə lɪŋgwɪstɪks mainɚ, ai hæv bɛn nəun tu rəit ləik thɪs æt taimz/

Beautiful!

[audiomick]

I do try and help sometimes, but it depends on my mood, but writing such as the OP used in his example really annoys me.

The person seeking help is seeking it of people who are helping of their own free will. The onus is therefore on the seeker of help to make things as easy as possible.

What I also can't stand is text without capital letters or punctuation. I once tried to help someone, and it took me a good 10 minutes to figure out what the hell he meant.

I also do not mean people who are writing in their second language. One can almost always tell by the type of "mistake" whether it is someone using their second (or third or fourth) language or a native speaker. I also don't really have a problem with someone who just has poor spelling and grammar skills. What I can't stand is people who just don't make the effort.

What is almost certain to stop me from helpung is a post full of abbreviations, lacking in punctuation, and finishing off with the plea for quick help "because I need the computer for school".
I'd like to see someone like that get through school writing like that.

[beetleman64]

txtspk really annoys me, I still try to help but it annoys me in forums more when people are capable of good English and have a full keyboard.

[audiomick]

txtspk really annoys me, I still try to help but it annoys me in forums more when people are capable of good English and have a full keyboard.

hear hear!

[k64]

When I see my fellow classmates using "IM language" it appals me. They learned to speak English years ago, in elementary school! They're now in high school, and so am I.

It's the same way on the forums. If you don't type full words, don't post!

[lisati]

If they don't care enough to spell, I don't care enough to help. I can handle typos without problems, but that "text speech" crap is annoying. And once you know proper english, it's not harder to type a full word. Sure on those phones with multiple-letters on each button, it can take longer. That's not an excuse to write that bad.

I also can't handle parents who teach wrong words to babies.
wawa = water ?
mimi = milk ?
etc
Poor kid has to learn the language twice.

Mimi for milk? That would be unfortunate here in Porirua. Um er how do I explain this politely? "Mimi" can mean ""pee", in Maori and Samoan......

[Greenwidth]

TXT SPK FTW!!!!!

Sorry, couldn't help it.

[The Toxic Mite]

Yup, drives me crazy. A web forum isn't an IM chat. I don't even type like that in text messages or IM's, actually.

My English teacher is a bit like that; she usually separates her texts into paragraphs too.

I don't mind using it on IM or text messages, but that depends on how bothered I can be to type (i.e. if I'm fairly tired then I rarely type out messages in full).

[Frak]

Other: Yes, to the point of mocking them.

[BETATEST]

If they try to be cute and use 'L33T SPEAK because that's what they think all the 'LEET 'BNTU H4XORS do in these forums ... I don't give them the time of day.

[The Toxic Mite]

If they try to be cute and use 'L33T SPEAK because that's what they think all the 'LEET 'BNTU H4XORS do in these forums ... I don't give them the time of day.

This ^^

EDIT: Just voted #1 on the poll. Also, if I saw it on a plain English forum like here, the post would have to be reported.

[Dayofswords]

Duz any1 h8 it wen u se a title lyke the 1 abve and the prblm is in txtx lnguge and u cnt rely undstand it and u jst get frstrated and it maks u not help.


its what text messages had done to the world

[The Toxic Mite]

its what text messages had done to the world

Oh yes...

:|

[madnessjack]

I don't mind text speak in a message but when guys write "This" all the time it ticks me off. Can't you be arsed to write "I agree" or something a little more grammatically correct? Sorry if it ain't leet enough.

[Frak]

I don't mind text speak in a message but when guys write "This" all the time it ticks me off. Can't you be arsed to write "I agree" or something a little more grammatically correct? Sorry if it ain't leet enough.
This.

Also, I don't like txt speak because I have a difficult time deciphering some of it. If you're wondering, yes, my friends write plain English when they text, and if they speak German, we allow contracting some terms, because Geschwindigkeitsbegrenzung (speed limit) is a long word to write on a phone.

[Lightstar]

This.

Also, I don't like txt speak because I have a difficult time deciphering some of it. If you're wondering, yes, my friends write plain English when they text, and if they speak German, we allow contracting some terms, because Geschwindigkeitsbegrenzung (speed limit) is a long word to write on a phone.

Oi! I do hate txt speak but you have a point there, I knew German used some crazy-long words. Is there an official version for contracted words or it's more like a slang?

[k64]

Hey, I'm a teenager myself, and I still don't use that IM crap when I'm posting. I use proper English, complete with capitalization and punctuation.

It's appalling to see others use that garbage.

[audiomick]

Oi! I do hate txt speak but you have a point there, I knew German used some crazy-long words.
They don't separate individual words in the names of things. You end up with names like rechargablebatteryloadingdevice.


Is there an official version for contracted words or it's more like a slang?
It is a mixture. Abbreviations are commonplace, for instance KFZ for Kraftfahrzeug (motorized vehicle). There is also an annoying tendency to think that english words are somehow better.

[Techsnap]

complete with capitalization and punctuation.

But no EN_GB localisation?

[Frak]

Oi! I do hate txt speak but you have a point there, I knew German used some crazy-long words. Is there an official version for contracted words or it's more like a slang?
Long German words are just long descriptions. For instance, Oberammergaueralpenkräuterdelikatessenfrühstückskä se literally means Deli-style breakfast cheese with mountain herbs from the state of Oberammergau. If we were to text about it, we would just call it OBKäse.

[SuperSonic4]

Plus of course you need to use a capital letter for every noun in German

[audiomick]

Plus of course you need to use a capital letter for every noun in German

You know you've been here too long when...
you start capitalising everything in English, but still forget to do it in German... ;)

[Frak]

you start capitalising everything in English, but still forget to do it in German... ;)

Haha, this.

[Mariane]

I never type like that, especially not in English, I wouldn't know how to do it.

But I like reading it. It teaches me about English pronounciation. Here for example I discovered that "hate" is pronounced "h" + "8" instead of "h" + "ate" as in "to eat" in the past tense.

These messages are like little puzzles, fun to solve, and for a foreigner such as me they really make you think about English pronounciation.

Mariane

[lykwydchykyn]

Here for example I discovered that "hate" is pronounced "h" + "8" instead of "h" + "ate" as in "to eat" in the past tense.


Maybe it's just the part of the English speaking world where I live, but "8" and "ate" are pronounced pretty much the same. I'm trying to think through other accents, but any I can think of pronounce it the same.

[audiomick]

Maybe it's just the part of the English speaking world where I live, but "8" and "ate" are pronounced pretty much the same. I'm trying to think through other accents, but any I can think of pronounce it the same.

You're right. Using numbers as parts of words is just being "clever".

[gn2]

None of the poll options apply.
If I clicked on a thread and it was written in txtspk, I would immediately click on the back button without even reading it.

[lisati]

I never type like that, especially not in English, I wouldn't know how to do it.

But I like reading it. It teaches me about English pronounciation. Here for example I discovered that "hate" is pronounced "h" + "8" instead of "h" + "ate" as in "to eat" in the past tense.

These messages are like little puzzles, fun to solve, and for a foreigner such as me they really make you think about English pronounciation.

Mariane

Where I live, "ate" and "eight" are pronounced pretty much the same way, are are "their", "there" and "they're".... It does annoy me when I hear people say something that sounds like "I sore it!" when they mean "I saw it!"

[gn2]

The worst one is people writing should of instead of should've.

[lisati]

The worst one is people writing should of instead of should've.

I find that annoying too. I'm sure we could come up with a number of examples without completely derailing the thread......

[Lightstar]

None of the poll options apply.
If I clicked on a thread and it was written in txtspk, I would immediately click on the back button without even reading it.

I'd count that as not helping

[madnessjack]

Also let's face it, we'd all be fubarred without a spell-checker :P

[Mariane]

Maybe it's just the part of the English speaking world where I live, but "8" and "ate" are pronounced pretty much the same. I'm trying to think through other accents, but any I can think of pronounce it the same.

Then I'm doing it wrong. I pronounce 8 with a diphtongue [eyt] and ate with a longish first vowel [et].

Mariane

[audiomick]

Then I'm doing it wrong. I pronounce 8 with a diphtongue [eyt] and ate with a longish first vowel [et].

Mariane

don't be fooled by the spelling. You can't rely on that in english :)
"Eight" and "ate" sound the same, and "dough", "trough", "through" and "enough" all have a different sound for "...ough". Great language! :)

[lykwydchykyn]

Then I'm doing it wrong. I pronounce 8 with a diphtongue [eyt] and ate with a longish first vowel [et].

Mariane

I wouldn't say that it's wrong, just that we don't generally get that subtle about pronunciation. At least not where I live; exact vowel sounds are probably the biggest difference between regional accents.

[llawwehttam]

Maybe someone has pointed this out already but:

*Not really too bothered


Maybe you should take a look at yourself before you start name calling.

Haha. Sorry, I apologize

[audiomick]

... exact vowel sounds are probably the biggest difference between regional accents.

True. I read somewhere that this is what constitutes an accent. It becomes a dialect when there are also grammatical differences.

[alwayshere]

Any help is good help and Im a big boy now and I can choose to take that help or not.

[JBAlaska]

Yes it bugs me some, but not as much as the forum pronunciation and spelling "Police"..you know who you are..:-)

[m4tic]

ts mch mre efcient typn ds wy dnt ya tnk?

[RabbitWho]

/biɪŋ ə lɪŋgwɪstɪks mainɚ, ai hæv bɛn nəun tu rəit ləik thɪs æt taimz/I had to learn that alphabet too in order to teach ESL .. and i gotta tell ya.. that's not how I pronounce things. Also you left out the stress mark in linguistics.

Being Irish, the American is closer than the Brittish one, but for the most part it drives me crazy.


... exact vowel sounds are probably the biggest difference between regional accents.

There is a type of brain injury known as "foreign accent syndrome" which causes people to shorten or lenghten their vowels.

[llawwehttam]

ts mch mre efcient typn ds wy dnt ya tnk?

Maybe to type but not for others to read. If you use good English ( typos don't count) then it does help people to help you.

[audiomick]

There is a type of brain injury known as "foreign accent syndrome" which causes people to shorten or lenghten their vowels.

Heard a New Zealander speak lately? (Baa...);)