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MasterNetra
January 18th, 2010, 04:49 PM
I know Ubuntu has options in its software sources for things like back-ports and the like. Would Debian have such options to where you could effectively convert the Stable version to Sid? Just wondering.

~sHyLoCk~
January 18th, 2010, 04:52 PM
Change repos to sid's and dist-upgrade?

Zoot7
January 18th, 2010, 04:52 PM
You can enable the Testing/Unstable repositories in Stable and go from there. But the better option IMO, if you know you want to run Testing/Unstable is to install using one of the weekly Testing builds.
http://cdimage.debian.org/cdimage/weekly-builds/

OrangeCrate
January 18th, 2010, 04:53 PM
I know Ubuntu has options in its software sources for things like back-ports and the like. Would Debian have such options to where you could effectively convert the Stable version to Sid? Just wondering.

Sure, but it's not really a simple yes or no answer. Here's a link that will answer any questions you might have (plus a whole lot more)...

http://www.debian.org/doc/FAQ/index.en.html#contents

(If you're interested in Debian, this doc is worth a solid read from beginning to end.)

MasterNetra
March 13th, 2010, 11:27 PM
You can enable the Testing/Unstable repositories in Stable and go from there. But the better option IMO, if you know you want to run Testing/Unstable is to install using one of the weekly Testing builds.
http://cdimage.debian.org/cdimage/weekly-builds/

umm which CD image in 1386 folder do I choose for the lastest? I was thinking about cd 42 or 41. Does it really matter? I ask because I'm not sure if all those are the actually installation CD's or if some or a number of them are Debian Repo cd's.

benerivo
March 13th, 2010, 11:55 PM
umm which CD image in 1386 folder do I choose for the lastest? I was thinking about cd 42 or 41. Does it really matter? I ask because I'm not sure if all those are the actually installation CD's or if some or a number of them are Debian Repo cd's.

The best way to access the weekly builds is from here...
http://www.debian.org/devel/debian-installer/

Whatever installer cd you use, i'd reccommend not choosing to install the 'graphical environment' (ie. the standard gnome desktop) when installing, and instead you would be left with a command line installation. From there you can change the repositories to unstable and upgrade and install whatever desktop env you want.

MasterNetra
March 14th, 2010, 12:05 AM
The best way to access the weekly builds is from here...
http://www.debian.org/devel/debian-installer/

Whatever installer cd you use, i'd reccommend not choosing to install the 'graphical environment' (ie. the standard gnome desktop) when installing, and instead you would be left with a command line installation. From there you can change the repositories to unstable and upgrade and install whatever desktop env you want.

But I prefer gnome, especially when moving to unfamiliar distros.

benerivo
March 14th, 2010, 12:17 AM
If you install using the testing cd then you could just do a normal install, and afterwards change your /etc/apt/sources.list to point to unstable. It would involve downloading the testing version of the gnome env, and then the unstable version, which may involve a big download. It won't be unfamiliar (compared to ubuntu), it just may not install easily.

MasterNetra
March 14th, 2010, 03:18 AM
If you install using the testing cd then you could just do a normal install, and afterwards change your /etc/apt/sources.list to point to unstable. It would involve downloading the testing version of the gnome env, and then the unstable version, which may involve a big download. It won't be unfamiliar (compared to ubuntu), it just may not install easily.

Well if apps get updated in Repo in testing I'll stick with testing.

Edit: *Looks at Foresight* Anyone use or played with Foresight Linux?

Zoot7
March 14th, 2010, 03:24 AM
umm which CD image in 1386 folder do I choose for the lastest? I was thinking about cd 42 or 41. Does it really matter? I ask because I'm not sure if all those are the actually installation CD's or if some or a number of them are Debian Repo cd's.
Normally the first 2 CDs are plenty, but if you want to install a good load of stuff offline the DVD is quite handy in this regard.
CD1/DVD1 is the installation disk, the rest contain packages only afaik (I normally download the DVD myself).

NightwishFan
March 14th, 2010, 03:30 AM
I am using Sid right now and loving it. I update from Testing all the time by changing sources and dist upgrading. Testing is generally more up to date than Ubuntu, so Sid is not too far ahead. As a tip, if you want a rolling release, but still have more bugs fixed, change your sources to "testing" and not "squeeze". This will rolling release the testing distribution instead of the unstable one.

MasterNetra
March 14th, 2010, 05:03 AM
Eeep! I just remembered. Will Debian Testing have the drivers required to run my wireless hardware? (See Spec's link in sig)

NightwishFan
March 14th, 2010, 05:49 AM
If it works in Ubuntu, then all you have to do is install the required firmware, just search for it here:
http://www.debian.org/distrib/packages

MasterNetra
March 14th, 2010, 06:36 AM
If it works in Ubuntu, then all you have to do is install the required firmware, just search for it here:
http://www.debian.org/distrib/packages

I usually use the STA driver don't know its package though. Andd if I did I wonder what CD it would be on...

MasterNetra
March 14th, 2010, 04:24 PM
Oops apparently I got the BCM43## wrong in my specs, according to the result of lspci it reads as a BCM4312

Edit: There we go corrected it.

snowpine
March 14th, 2010, 04:26 PM
I know Ubuntu has options in its software sources for things like back-ports and the like. Would Debian have such options to where you could effectively convert the Stable version to Sid? Just wondering.

My 2 cents, keep your nice, stable Lenny install, then install Sidux on a second partition. Sidux is basically stabilized Debian Sid, and it's the fastest install I've ever seen... about 5 minutes!

Best of both worlds. :)

MasterNetra
March 14th, 2010, 04:33 PM
My 2 cents, keep your nice, stable Lenny install, then install Sidux on a second partition. Sidux is basically stabilized Debian Sid, and it's the fastest install I've ever seen... about 5 minutes!

Best of both worlds. :)

Don't have Debian Install atm. Still using Ubuntu Karmic, but thinking of moving to a rolling release type of thing.

MasterNetra
March 15th, 2010, 05:32 PM
hmm could Ubuntu be made to behave like a rolling release?

NightwishFan
March 15th, 2010, 06:45 PM
I do not think so. You could constantly target the development releases, but they always use experimental stuff. Sid uses the latest Stable version usually.