How do i convince my father to let me have a party

[heroidi]

I am turning 16 in 5 weeks ( 24 feb) and I used to have partys every year at my house and my father gave me the money for them and let me invite people but this year (its my first year in high school) he said it will be expensive and he never said that and i argued with him that it will not be so any ideas on how do i convince him?

[NoaHall]

You don't. You respect what he says. You want a party? Rent your own place, and pay for it yourself. There's probably a good reason why he says it's too expensive. Like lack of money for one.

[heroidi]

There's this problem i don't have a job...

[JDShu]

Write up a detailed plan and budget. Present it to your dad. Even if you fail, its a good experience.

[Joeb454]

Write up a detailed plan and budget. Present it to your dad. Even if you fail, its a good experience.

If we're adhering to modern standards you'd also need a risk assessment ;)

But I agree with JDShu, if you can prove that it won't be expensive, that should be all you need :)

[Bodsda]

I agree with NoaHall. But, your dad may decide otherwise if you can show maturity or offer to work the cost in chores

[heroidi]

I will write a detailed budget... Thanks a lot will tell you if it works :)

[liamnixon]

There's this problem i don't have a job...

Get one. ;)

[heroidi]

Get one. ;)

I used to work as waiter at my father's restaurant and now i have to get better at school because i "suck" right now so i dont have time for a job

[Unlimited Bit]

** Get a job **

[The Toxic Mite]

You don't. You respect what he says. You want a party? Rent your own place, and pay for it yourself. There's probably a good reason why he says it's too expensive. Like lack of money for one.

Oh my, what a very... snide remark. :|

[NoaHall]

Oh my, what a very... snide remark. :|

It's my honest opinion.

[The Toxic Mite]

It's my honest opinion.

... and I disagree with it.

[hoppipolla]

** Get a job **

yeah this wouldn't be a bad idea, I mean it seems here that the main problem is money, and if he's shelled out every previous year then I guess I understand, but it is a LITTLE odd to stop at 16, which is one of those ages when most people do have parties to celebrate their birthdays!

Ah I just read the thing about needing time to work at school.. who knows man. Yeah if you can convince him that it won't be that expensive that could do the trick.

[lisati]

Above all else, keep communications with your Dad friendly. It is, after all, his place, and he is your Dad.

[hoppipolla]

... and I disagree with it.

hehe I do too, I think 16 too young to get your own place really, and parties are very important! :o

[NoaHall]

... and I disagree with it.

So? People are allowed to have different opinions. You can like cheese, doesn't mean I have to like cheese, and you can't force me to like cheese.

[hoppipolla]

So? People are allowed to have different opinions. You can like cheese, doesn't mean I have to like cheese, and you can't force me to like cheese.

we can try!!! *passes Noah a whole plate of cheese!*


:D

[NoaHall]

we can try!!! *passes Noah a whole plate of cheese!*


:D

:/ Ugh.

[Techsnap]

You don't. You respect what he says. You want a party? Rent your own place, and pay for it yourself. There's probably a good reason why he says it's too expensive. Like lack of money for one.

I agree.


So? People are allowed to have different opinions.

Media Centres :D

[Kdar]

You know, not everything goes as you plan every year.

You can have party another time. You are still young, got a lot of years ahead of you :)

[NoaHall]

I agree.



Media Centres :D

Media Centres will become my nickname, if you keep doing that, you know..

[Shadal]

You know, not everything goes as you plan every year.

You can have party another time. You are still young, got a lot of years ahead of you :)

How very very true!

This is a very bad time for everybody, nearly everyone in the country is having financial problems right now. If your dad can't afford it, he can't afford it...
Your 16, time to start transforming into an adult...

[Warpnow]

Parties don't have to cost a dime. You can have an entirely free party. Or, more realistically, a very cheap party.

What were your previous parties like?

Most of the "parties" I've had in the past I spent less than $20 on. Cici's Pizza and 88cent 2 liters are pretty cheap. ;)

Why not find a way to pay for it yourself? Sure, you may not have a job, but cut expenses as much as possible and try to find a way to make a reasonable amount of money.

I'm rather against high school students having jobs. Most people I knew in high school who did allowed it to very much effect their schoolwork. College is different, as it costs money to attend, but if you can get by without working, I think its very advisable.

[Dayofswords]

If we're adhering to modern standards you'd also need a risk assessment ;)
uh, dont even what to know what could be in that for a party

[Shpongle]

You don't. You respect what he says. You want a party? Rent your own place, and pay for it yourself. There's probably a good reason why he says it's too expensive. Like lack of money for one.

+1 ,

@ op , you've had ones the other years , just let this one pass , be thankful your alive for one , there is too much focus put on material things in this world, when they are the most insignificant

[Warpnow]

+1 ,

@ op , you've had ones the other years , just let this one pass , be thankful your alive for one , there is too much focus put on material things in this world, when they are the most insignificant

Mmmm...I wouldn't call a party a material thing...

A party is simply a gathering of people for enjoyment, bonding, ect...

How is that material?

[hoppipolla]

Mmmm...I wouldn't call a party a material thing...

A party is simply a gathering of people for enjoyment, bonding, ect...

How is that material?

I agree! I was just about to say exactly the same thing :)

[kreggz]

you shouldn't ever ask, just do

[schauerlich]

Ask your dad if you can have friends over. Not that big of a deal.

Schauerlich

Sent from my iPhone

[BuffaloX]

I used to work as waiter at my father's restaurant and now i have to get better at school because i "suck" right now so i dont have time for a job

Many Restaurants get a lot less business these days, maybe your dad doesn't have much money right now.

[pwnst*r]

Oh my, what a very... snide remark. :|

Snide? Wow. Some of you people are ultra-sensitive.

[dmizer]

Sent from my iPhone
Not sure how this is relevant ...

Sent from my 4 year old Panasonic P905i. ;)

[steveneddy]

Write up a detailed plan and budget. Present it to your dad. Even if you fail, its a good experience.

That's a great answer!

I suggest this route.

[steveneddy]

Snide? Wow. Some of you people are ultra-sensitive.

*whispers* -you have no idea

[Kdar]

Not sure how this is relevant ...

Sent from my 4 year old Panasonic P905i. ;)

But does that comes automatically on your 4 year old Panasonic?

I think some people who use iPhone, that "sent from iphone", get sent automatically, at least in e-mails.

[JBAlaska]

Find a young lady to give you a "Special" present and you'll forget all about the party...

Or whine to your friends about what a cheapskate your dad is and maybe they will set up a party for you..

Either way...Happy Birthday!

I hope you get option one! :D

And to the above posters, I'm prolly older than most of you and you sound like a bunch of old farts..Get a job etc..dang.:P

[schauerlich]

Not sure how this is relevant ...

Sent from my 4 year old Panasonic P905i. ;)

http://www.networkworld.com/community/node/48266

"Sent from my iPhone" has become a meme.

[supermooshman]

recipe for any cheap houseparty:


Ipod + amplifier
BYOB
another house (it'll get filty, so probably promise your parents you'll clean afterwards)
+ for additional flavoring: invite/warn neighbors (avoid problems with them)



Enjoy (and happy birthday)

[ronniestamps]

very easily, move out

[Khakilang]

You going to be a man. Some day your son will say or do the same thing and you may say no. So listen to your father. Maybe the economic situation isn't so good. He has his own budget you know. Like paying the bills.

[xir_]

chloroform and a flannel.



(note, this advice comes without warranty to the fullest applicable extent of the law).

[Kdar]

Find a young lady to give you a "Special" present and you'll forget all about the party...

Thats good alternative too haha

[xuCGC002]

http://www.networkworld.com/community/node/48266

"Sent from my iPhone" has become a meme.
I hope you were being sarcastic.


Oh my, what a very... snide remark. :|
Um, ok? He does have a very strong point.

[gnomeuser]

While I am no big party fan..

I would first make a proposed budget, I would aim low on this, these are hard times for everyone. Creativity can make marvels out of cheap items, look around for inspiration.

I would ask your father for permission to present your proposal, you must respect a no if he gives one and entirely drop the subject.

I would also offer to work off the cost at a fair rate. E.g. you could volunteer labor for his business if he needs.

The key things here is getting his permission to use the house and making sure he has a buttomline he feels comfortable with.

My thinking is that he says no right now because it is an expense he can't afford but also because you are becoming older now and should learn to care for yourself.

Think of this as a learning experience.

[whiskeylover]

Threaten to slit your wrist. He'll realize that the cost of the party will probably be less than the medical bills and let you have the party.

(I'm only kidding.)

[schauerlich]

I hope you were being sarcastic.

When I said he should ask his father? When I said "Sent from my iPhone" has become a meme? Not really, no... basically, the form is "<snide, terse comment> \n\n Sent from my iPhone". The SFMI part just reinforces the douchebaggery already contained in the original message. :)

[forrestcupp]

I mean it seems here that the main problem is money, and if he's shelled out every previous year then I guess I understand, but it is a LITTLE odd to stop at 16, which is one of those ages when most people do have parties to celebrate their birthdays!

It's also the age that kids start acting naughty and trying to do "adult" things before they're old enough.

It's not really about money. That's just a front. He's really worried that you're going to do things you shouldn't, like drinking, drugs, and getting girls knocked up. ;)

If you want a party, you can come up with a budget, but you really need to assure him from your heart that you're not going to do naughty things and trash his house.

[hoppipolla]

It's also the age that kids start acting naughty and trying to do "adult" things before they're old enough.

It's not really about money. That's just a front. He's really worried that you're going to do things you shouldn't, like drinking, drugs, and getting girls knocked up. ;)

If you want a party, you can come up with a budget, but you really need to assure him from your heart that you're not going to do naughty things and trash his house.

ok there's a chance you might be right there... hehe

Seriously though man it is SO out of order to stop the second the parties start getting fun! xD


you shouldn't ever ask, just do

I don't AGREE with this comment as such but... I can see the logic! lol

[mamamia88]

tell him you are throwing him a party because he's such an awesome father

[madnessjack]

Rent some place out. Is it that hard??

[pwnst*r]

Rent some place out. Is it that hard??

Maybe you missed the part where the OP says that he HAS NO MONEY

[hoppipolla]

Maybe you missed the part where the OP says that he HAS NO MONEY

hahahaha post of the thread! :)


tell him you are throwing him a party because he's such an awesome father

2nd to best post of the thread! ^_^

[madnessjack]

Maybe you missed the part where the OP says that he HAS NO MONEY

** Get a job **

It's a hard life isn't it...

Put it this way - If I had a nice clean house, I wouldn't want it wrecked by kids!

Maybe if it's you're bday you can have a party in a rented out hall or club or something as a present.

[pricetech]

Has it occurred to anybody that maybe his father wants him to step and take responsibility ?? Instead of arguing with his dad he should start behaving more like the adult he is becoming, chronologically at least.

His poor grades are probably hurting his chances too. He says that's why he doesn't have time for a job, but what what else does he have time for ?? He obviously has time for the forums.

Just a few thoughts from an old geezer. Slander them if you want.

[PhoenixMaster00]

Maybe because its your 16th hes planning a major surprise? (I dont know how 16th birthdays are veiwed in your country but alot normally see 16, 18, and 21 as big dates for younger people) and the risky way to do that is to get your hopes down then you will be even more surprised and elated by it.

If not then perhap[s he is expecting you to take a more hands on approach to party details, give him a precise plan of action tell him to take the night off and chill :P

[Tristam Green]

Media Centres :D

Amarok 1.4 because GOD WILLS IT (sarcasm)


Ask your dad if you can have friends over. Not that big of a deal.

Schauerlich

Sent from my iPhone
My name is Tristam Green and what is this?







@OP: It's your dad's house, your options are myriad, but most of them end up with you either accepting additional responsibility or in tears, with you leaving home.

Get your grades in order. Get to know what your dad does, and figure out how last year's horrible economy impacted him. Then, think about whether or not you *really* needed that party that you've come to expect every year.

Granted, your dad enabled this unnecessary expectation by throwing you parties and tossing money your way every year of your existence...

[schauerlich]

My name is Tristam Green and what is this?

http://ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=8662071&postcount=38

[Tristam Green]

http://ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=8662071&postcount=38

Answer the question without a link next time. I hate clicking links and I expect you to tell me what they contain, lest the link redirect me to some crazy malware site. (http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1380355)


wakka wakka wakka

[pwnst*r]

It's a hard life isn't it...

Put it this way - If I had a nice clean house, I wouldn't want it wrecked by kids!

Maybe if it's you're bday you can have a party in a rented out hall or club or something as a present.

Hahaha, I'm not saying I agree with the OP, far from it, considering I said the same regarding getting a job.

[schauerlich]

Answer the question without a link next time. I hate clicking links and I expect you to tell me what they contain, lest the link redirect me to some crazy malware site. (http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1380355)


wakka wakka wakka

http://ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=8665426&postcount=30

:D

[lisati]

Answer the question without a link next time. I hate clicking links and I expect you to tell me what they contain, lest the link redirect me to some crazy malware site. (http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1380355)


wakka wakka wakka

Wut? (http://lisati.myftp.org/whoami.php)

Edit: Just spotted a visitor!

[CJ Master]

I hope you were being sarcastic.

I hope you were being sarcastic.

[schauerlich]

Wut? (http://lisati.myftp.org/whoami.php)

Edit: Just spotted a visitor!

I'm using Safari 4 on OS X, and it reports:

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lolwut? Mozilla?

[lisati]

I'm using Safari 4 on OS X, and it reports:

Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; U; Intel Mac OS X 10_6_2; en-us) AppleWebKit/531.21.8 (KHTML, like Gecko) Version/4.0.4 Safari/531.21.10

lolwut? Mozilla?
No idea..... IE4 (when I was running Win98SE) reported "Mozilla" in some places too.


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[Dharmachakra]

Meh. Have your friends over when he's not around. And make sure to get disgustingly drunk, just to spite him.

[Matt_Johnson]

I would just use a bit of money to make some nice moonshine in the bathtub and then were good to go :popcorn:

[KiwiNZ]

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