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Anuovis
January 1st, 2010, 08:41 PM
I have been thinking for some time if there were any. Alternatives from two-three years ago did not seem to be any good but the situation might have changed now. After some superficial searching and a couple of articles I found these:

Wolfram (http://www.wolframalpha.com/index.html)
Not an alternative but more of a different way of searching.

Cuil (http://www.cuil.com/)
Not sure about this one, the results seem to be rather poor.

Hakia (http://hakia.com/)
Next generation semantic search? Results seem to be OK.

Clusty (http://clusty.com/)
I really liked this one, it groups all the results.

Exalead (http://www.exalead.com/search/web/)
Seems to have a very precise search syntax but I don't know anything about the results.

I have not been using any of these, just made a list where to start from.

Does anybody have some tips on how to test if a search engine is doing an OK job or not? Any other engines I have missed?

Also, could you share your experiences about alternative searches if you have been using any?

pwnst*r
January 1st, 2010, 08:43 PM
Does anybody have some tips on how to test if a search engine is doing an OK job or not?

yep. compare them to google's results.

lisati
January 1st, 2010, 08:47 PM
Found out about this "search engine" from a Doctor Who episode: http://www.search-wise.net/

:)

pwnst*r
January 1st, 2010, 08:49 PM
http://www.bing.com/

benerivo
January 1st, 2010, 08:51 PM
ixquick.com (https://ixquick.com)

It's a meta-search engine that promotes itself with a strong privacy policy.

LeifAndersen
January 1st, 2010, 08:52 PM
Well, if you like pulling your teeth out, http://www.yahoo.com. But it just uses bing, with a really bad interface.

juancarlospaco
January 1st, 2010, 09:45 PM
Apache Lucene, if dont work is your fault. :)

adeypoop
January 1st, 2010, 10:28 PM
http://www.ask.com/

The Toxic Mite
January 1st, 2010, 10:32 PM
ixquick.com (https://ixquick.com)

It's a meta-search engine that promotes itself with a strong privacy policy.

My family often used that during my mum's university days, but then we discovered Google.

Still, they are both pretty good. I also like Clusty despite just discovering it today :P

EDIT: Just added it to my browser's search bar with HTTPS enabled ;) :P

adeypoop
January 1st, 2010, 10:36 PM
Does anybody have some tips on how to test if a search engine is doing an OK job or not?


i reckon the best way to test one is to set it as your default search engine and leave it as the default for a certain time period (eg a week).

Also try and stay open minded, just because something is different to google doesn't mean its not as good.

Its a good idea for a thread, I think I'll try some of these that have been suggested

:guitar:

hoppipolla
January 1st, 2010, 11:21 PM
http://www.everyclick.com/

but I think it uses Yahoo, which is strange coz I thought they weren't so ethical... oh well, there are a fair few good charitable search engines :)

The Toxic Mite
January 1st, 2010, 11:28 PM
http://www.everyclick.com/

but I think it uses Yahoo, which is strange coz I thought they weren't so ethical... oh well, there are a fair few good charitable search engines :)

Therefore, it actually uses Bing and it's crap.

hoppipolla
January 2nd, 2010, 12:04 AM
Therefore, it actually uses Bing and it's crap.

it's mainly cool for the charity though ^_^

pwnst*r
January 2nd, 2010, 12:08 AM
Therefore, it actually uses Bing and it's crap.

actually Bing is the next best thing to google. it's okay if you don't agree.


no, really.

The Toxic Mite
January 2nd, 2010, 12:12 AM
actually Bing is the next best thing to google. it's okay if you don't agree.


no, really.

http://blog.pharmalive.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/06/o_rly.jpg

:lolflag:

VastOne
January 2nd, 2010, 12:15 AM
Before Google I used http://www.altavista.com/

And lo and behold, it is still there

Gramps
January 2nd, 2010, 02:06 AM
InfoSpace created the Dogpile (http://www.dogpile.com) search engine because your time is important to us. Powered by Metasearch technology, Dogpile returns all the best results from leading search engines including Google, Yahoo!, Bing and Ask, so you find what you’re looking for faster.

73ckn797
January 2nd, 2010, 02:23 AM
If you search for Ubuntu answers and find the forum search difficult, try http://www.uboontu.com .

phawnex
January 2nd, 2010, 02:37 AM
i use google and yahoo.

i tried other search engines, they just dont work as well lol.

Anuovis
January 2nd, 2010, 02:43 AM
If you search for Ubuntu answers and find the forum search difficult, try http://www.uboontu.com .

Is it the same as http://crunchbang.org/ubuntu-search-engine/ ?

I need to actually use it for some time before saying anything but www.ixquick.com seems like a decent one.

hoppipolla
January 2nd, 2010, 03:19 AM
If you search for Ubuntu answers and find the forum search difficult, try http://www.uboontu.com .

that's awesome :)

HappinessNow
January 2nd, 2010, 03:42 AM
try this one: http://www.yubnub.org/

type 'gym' in front of any search term; ex.


gym ubuntuforums

It splits your web browser screen into 3 between Google/Yahoo/Bing

73ckn797
January 2nd, 2010, 04:28 AM
Is it the same as http://crunchbang.org/ubuntu-search-engine/ ?

I need to actually use it for some time before saying anything but www.ixquick.com (http://www.ixquick.com) seems like a decent one.

I have not tried Crunchbang and cannot comment on it.

ixquick is not bad.

judge jankum
January 2nd, 2010, 04:35 AM
https://ssl.scroogle.org/

Barriehie
January 2nd, 2010, 06:07 AM
Title says it!

http://www.scroogle.org/cgi-bin/scraper.htm

hoppipolla
January 2nd, 2010, 06:29 AM
www.keyboardr.com is cool and there's also another one that acts the same but I can't remember it's name...

EDIT -- it's www.heapr.com :)

Warren Watts
January 2nd, 2010, 06:57 AM
InfoSpace created the Dogpile (http://www.dogpile.com) search engine because your time is important to us. Powered by Metasearch technology, Dogpile returns all the best results from leading search engines including Google, Yahoo!, Bing and Ask, so you find what you’re looking for faster.

Add me to the Dogpile crowd. I use Dogpile almost exclusively for internet searches.

Frak
January 2nd, 2010, 06:59 AM
yep. compare them to google's results.

I just laughed so hard.

gnomeuser
January 2nd, 2010, 07:56 AM
I tried a few search engines, I tried my name to see where my blog and other online presences were placed, given that I share my name with a famous danish footballer this is prone to giving undesirable results. I am aiming to find my blog as that gets updated fairly regularly and has several popular posts.

Google: page 5
Bing: page 1 (but for my outdated Fedora Maintainer page)
Hakia: Page 2 (but my rarely updated identi.ca page)
Yahoo: Page 1
Cuil: Page 1

Then I tried to search for my famed Vista review which on Google is the first hit for "windows batshit insane".

Google: Page 1 (first hit)
Bing: never (I read past 15 pages of hits with no luck - major fail Microsoft)
Hakia: never (I read all 10 pages of hits - major fail Hakia)
Yahoo: Page 1 (first hit)
Cuil: Page 1 (first hit)

Based on this highly unscientific test Yahoo and Cuil give better results on the limited sample size. Of the two I think Cuil is my prefered search engine, the page is neater and the results are displayed in a more useful manner, I especially like the context related groups on the right side. As a bonus Cuil detects that I am using Chromium and discretely offers instructions on how to add itself to the search engine with handy screenshots and helpful text.

Giant Speck
January 2nd, 2010, 07:59 AM
http://www.bing.com/

I'm going to have to +1 this, especially for the Image search, which doesn't require you to click through pages of images. It just lets you keep scrolling and scrolling and scrolling...

RPG Master
January 2nd, 2010, 08:08 AM
I've been using Cuil since the beginning :D

Yes, even back when it was an absolute turd :P
But now it's actually really awesome :D

siimo
January 2nd, 2010, 08:44 AM
+1 for Bing.

It is the best search engine after Google. Yahoo doesn't count - uses Bing backend anyway.

Especially like Bing video search that lets you mouse hover over to preview the video. Also like the never ending ajax scrolling image and video searching.

NaickJa99
January 2nd, 2010, 09:35 PM
I came across this shopping search engine that I'd like to share:

http://www.onewayshopping.com

Sporkman
January 2nd, 2010, 09:49 PM
Where can I buy cheap ****** and acai berry supplements?

blueshiftoverwatch
January 2nd, 2010, 11:44 PM
Title says it!

http://www.scroogle.org/cgi-bin/scraper.htm
Indeed.

m0o
January 3rd, 2010, 12:52 AM
It could be great if we can add this to the Firefox search bar.

RabbitWho
January 3rd, 2010, 01:05 AM
*likes google*

*loves commercialism*

*loves capitalism*


I like the cooky art 90s web style on that though.

fromthehill
January 3rd, 2010, 01:11 AM
It could be great if we can add this to the Firefox search bar.
you can :)

http://mycroft.mozdev.org/search-engines.html?name=scroogle

Barriehie
January 3rd, 2010, 01:16 AM
It could be great if we can add this to the Firefox search bar.

Check here. https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/3682

judge jankum
January 3rd, 2010, 01:16 AM
scroogle rocks

Barriehie
January 3rd, 2010, 01:19 AM
Found another one...
https://us2.ixquick.com/eng/

t0p
January 3rd, 2010, 02:19 AM
Found another one...
https://us2.ixquick.com/eng/I haven't made up my mind about ixquick.com yet. It returns a lot less results than the same search with Google, but sometimes they're more relevant. As for Scroogle: I get hanging connection a lot of the time. It doesn't matter how great a search engine is with your personal data, if it doesn't perform searches efficiently.

NCFC
January 3rd, 2010, 03:55 AM
I haven't made up my mind about ixquick.com yet. It returns a lot less results than the same search with Google, but sometimes they're more relevant. As for Scroogle: I get hanging connection a lot of the time. It doesn't matter how great a search engine is with your personal data, if it doesn't perform searches efficiently.

You can change your IXquick settings to show 100 results which is the same as Scroogle.

There's also a SSL Scroogle which can found at: https://ssl.scroogle.org/

I've tended to move towards IXquick but I've got Scroogle SSL in my Quick Search.

BenAshton24
January 3rd, 2010, 04:04 AM
They're all good, but what's really needed is an (almost) exact replica of Google with the exact same results and thumbnails for videos etc. Maybe one that pulls the source code from Google and hard-codes all of the URLs to images etc. That would be good XD

bapoumba
January 3rd, 2010, 06:27 PM
Threads merged.

RabbitWho
January 3rd, 2010, 07:18 PM
They're all good, but what's really needed is an (almost) exact replica of Google with the exact same results and thumbnails for videos etc. Maybe one that pulls the source code from Google and hard-codes all of the URLs to images etc. That would be good XD


(http://tiny.cc/6WvLz) Try this one. (http://tiny.cc/6WvLz)

m0o
January 4th, 2010, 08:23 AM
you can :)

http://mycroft.mozdev.org/search-engines.html?name=scroogle


Check here. https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/3682

Great, thank you both for the links. I also started using the Firefox keyword bookmarks feature for Scroogle's searchbox.

Jags_FL
January 4th, 2010, 10:00 AM
I've been using http://www.bing.com/ since its launch in June-2009 and quite happy with it :)

Georgia boy
January 4th, 2010, 12:55 PM
If you go to manage search engines and click search for more search engines you'll get over 600 results returned. I went through a few pages. Too many to chose from for me right now. Have a look at those.

Tom