The official Nexus One thread (Google phone)

[pwnst*r]

Some of the other threads are getting a bit muddled with talk of other phones and with the Jan 5th date fast approaching, I'd like to start this thread with any current news/leaks of the still unofficial Google phone.

Note: all of this stuff so far is unofficial and most certainly could be fake.

Specs so far:

Specifications (http://www.engadget.com/2009/12/23/exclusive-nexus-one-full-specs-detailed-invite-only-retail-sal/)

Here's the latest, complete with video benchmarking the Nexus One.

Nexus One Hi-res Photos (http://www.engadget.com/2009/12/30/nexus-one-trounces-3d-benchmark-gets-caught-in-high-res-photosh/)

Benchmarking video (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hvzxZ8tOBcQ&feature=player_embedded)

Training materials/Purchase pages (http://www.engadget.com/photos/nexus-one-training-materials-purchase-pages-0/2567766#2567766)

Hands on and first impressions! (http://www.engadget.com/2010/01/02/exclusive-google-nexus-one-hands-on-video-and-first-impressio/)

Tons of pics (http://www.engadget.com/photos/google-nexus-one-unboxing-and-hands-on/2573694#2573694)

Engadget Review (http://www.engadget.com/2010/01/04/nexus-one-review/)

[pwnst*r]

Interesting take on the Nexus One.

A Google phone could be the death of Android (http://www.engadget.com/2009/12/15/entelligence-a-google-phone-could-be-the-death-of-android/)

[Sunflower1970]

Wow. Impressive.

I want it. (just wish it was cheaper unlocked)

(I'll have to wait a bit. Pay off some X-mas stuff first before I think seriously about buying it...)

[pwnst*r]

Looks like it may have been rooted already:

http://content.modaco.net/imagewell/rootednexusone.jpg

Forum Post (http://android.modaco.com/content/google-nexus-one-nexusone-modaco-com/298782/30-12-1-1-superboot-rooting-the-nexus-one/) [Android @ Modaco]

[LeifAndersen]

Wow, someone sure is an engadget fanboy...

[Ric_NYC]

Until someone can give me a ten-word answer to how Mountain View can manage to build an ecosystem while trying to compete with it, I will remain skeptical that the Google Phone ever comes to market.

http://www.engadget.com/2009/12/15/entelligence-a-google-phone-could-be-the-death-of-android/



damn you google i brough htc hero..if i would know Nexus One is coming so soon i would have wait (From a Youtube comment).

[pwnst*r]

Wow, someone sure is an engadget fanboy...

the number one site on the net of its kind and a central site for most of all that's relevant.

<Meep>




http://www.engadget.com/2009/12/15/entelligence-a-google-phone-could-be-the-death-of-android/


(From a Youtube comment).

yeah, i already quoted that.

[KhaaL]

I'm having high hopes on this phone. I made the mistake of buying the samsung galaxy (which will recieve no more update, stuck with 1.5) and its not smooth at all to use. Really, my Sonyericsson K750i were more responsive... So even though this phone does everything i want feature wise, I'm still looking for a resopnsive android phone.

[pwnst*r]

Ah, the K750i - back when SE was cranking out really good phones.

[docus]

I nearly went for the HTC Hero but I've decided to wait for the Nexus One instead. I wonder when it'll come out in the UK?

[pwnst*r]

or at all ^_^ - we'll find out on the 5th I'm sure.

[LeifAndersen]

the number one site on the net of its kind and a central site for most of all that's relevant.

<snip>


Not mad, I like engadget (even if I can't spell it. :) ).

It's just that you put five links right next to each other, all from engadget.

[pwnst*r]

again, engadget is a news SOURCE which gathers links from submissions from the internets. don't blame me if you don't understand that.

[LeifAndersen]

So? You still posted 5 links in a row to engadget. Even though engadget got those links from another source, you still linked to engadget.

You keep trying to turn this into a flame war, by making personal attacks on me, rather than actually discussing the actual point I made. By doing that, you are preforming a straw man fallacy. But if you continue to persist, I have to say that if you want to look for a source you can trust without question (a bad idea, but you seem to persist that that is the only source of information you can use), than reputability is not the place to be looking, rather, you should be looking at scholarly reports. Which means you shouldn't trust news sources, because news sources aren't scholarly, as they are not peer reviewed.

Look, it's not a bad thing. I'm not saying you shouldn't link to engadget. After all, it serves as a good aggregation tool for the topic at hand (discussing the nexus one). But if you can't handle someone pointing out that you linked to entirely one source (even if they are just linking to other sources), than you really don't understand credibility.

[pwnst*r]

why would i purposely go out and link to the original source if it's RIGHT THERE ON ENGADGET. it saves me time. i couldn't care less if you have an issue with it. your whole "fanboy" call is yawn-inducing.

[gnomeuser]

Interesting take on the Nexus One.

A Google phone could be the death of Android (http://www.engadget.com/2009/12/15/entelligence-a-google-phone-could-be-the-death-of-android/)

Wow the author has a stunning lack of logic.

First the article title is highly sensational, he then goes on to claim without backing that one of the reasons for Microsofts success is that they do not sell computers (though he does forget that Microsoft does make hardware). The he goes back to looking at the business model and several previously failed devices. However Android already has strong backing, not only in the cellphone market but on ebooks, netbooks and other devices. Several of the major cellphone makers have invested heavily in developing Android. This was not the case with any of the previous devices because surprise the underlying system wasn't open.

Google is going to provide a reference implementation on hardware they feel comfortable will give a desirable Android platform. That is all, they will likely arrange for the phone to be available both unlocked from Google or more likely a blessed reseller and negotiate subsidized deals with cellcos. This would allow the phone to be available in countries for interested parties where such subsidized deals have not yet landed and it would allow interested users to pick their own plan rather than going with the cellcos bundled android package (which here tends to be very bad with idiotic terms such as a 300 mb a month download limit where as the iPhone can be gotten with unlimited download).

I think Nexus One is far more about setting a standard, an experience to compare other products to. Showing what Android can do now and challenging other handset makers to top it. I don't think cellphone vendors will feel threatened by it anymore than another vendors offering. There will always be the buzz of the week regarding the next big upcoming phone, before the Nexus One it was the Motorola Droid, before that the HTC Hero. After the Nexus One someone will top it.

I also think it is about gathering the platform together, e.g. HTC spends a lot of money and time porting their Sense UI to Android and this isn't serving the users interest. It slows down the ability to roll out updates and it provides a significanty different experience depending on the device. Nexus One provides a platform to show that these customizations are on the way out in favor of providing a singular Android base experience and encouraging vendors to work directly on this rather than forking Android into their own little ecosystem. In other words the purpose in the aspect is to let cellphone makers understand how to work in open source.

[HappinessNow]

Some of the other threads are getting a bit muddled with talk of other phones and with the Jan 5th date fast approaching, I'd like to start this thread with any current news/leaks of the still unofficial Google phone.

Note: all of this stuff so far is unofficial and most certainly could be fake.

Specs so far:

Specifications (http://www.engadget.com/2009/12/23/exclusive-nexus-one-full-specs-detailed-invite-only-retail-sal/)

Here's the latest, complete with video benchmarking the Nexus One.

Nexus One Hi-res Photos (http://www.engadget.com/2009/12/30/nexus-one-trounces-3d-benchmark-gets-caught-in-high-res-photosh/)

Benchmarking video (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hvzxZ8tOBcQ&feature=player_embedded)

Training materials/Purchase pages (http://www.engadget.com/photos/nexus-one-training-materials-purchase-pages-0/2567766#2567766)

For those who are interested I started a Google Nexus One Group:


Google Nexus One (and all other future phones by Google)
Group Maintained by 今幸福
The Google Nexus One (and all other future phones by Google) Group for people who long for and hope to become owners of Google phones; Nexus One and all other phones by Google powered by the Android OS.
http://ubuntuforums.org/group.php?groupid=698

[pwnst*r]

**updated** thx, NCLI

[Icehuck]

I guess if this phone hits Tmobile then I will be ditching my G1.

[NCLI]

**updated** thx, NCLI

You're welcome, I was just about to post it here as well :P

Anyother great hands-on by Engadget, I hope they'll post the review before the phone is released, I really need to know about its battery life.

[pwnst*r]

After looking at that, it certainly doesn't make me want to toss my iphone. If I didn't have the iphone I'd be all over it. My dilemma now is that my ATT contract is up at the end of this month ^_^

[NCLI]

I've used an iPhone, and I didn't find it that much better than my Magic. Sure it ran smooth and it had a bigger screen, but that was it(For me).

Though it is borderline off-topic, what's so great about it? :confused:

[pwnst*r]

responsive, even after jailbreaking. the apps of course, it works great in windows ;D, exchange support (important for me), mature, more choice of accessories than any other phone smart or not. i've only had to use them once, but the apple customer service was outstanding.

[NCLI]

responsive, even after jailbreaking. the apps of course, it works great in windows ;D, exchange support (important for me), mature, more choice of accessories than any other phone smart or not. i've only had to use them once, but the apple customer service was outstanding.

Well, I'm not going to start an argument here, but other than the accesories, that's cold have been me talking about my Magic :-s

It's responsive, has a lot of great apps, the support is awesome, it's stable, and it has exchange support(Though I have no use for it).

Anyway, back on topic:

I hadn't really given this much thought until now, but will this phone work in Denmark?

My Magic works with WCDMA (UMTS) / GSM 850/900/1800/1900, and the Nexus One with HSPA 900/1700/2100, how can I find out whether it'll even work with 3G in my country?

[pwnst*r]

that's a good question. hopefully on the 5th we'll have all of our answers.

[gnomeuser]

Well, I'm not going to start an argument here, but other than the accesories, that's cold have been me talking about my Magic :-s

It's responsive, has a lot of great apps, the support is awesome, it's stable, and it has exchange support(Though I have no use for it).

Anyway, back on topic:

I hadn't really given this much thought until now, but will this phone work in Denmark?

My Magic works with WCDMA (UMTS) / GSM 850/900/1800/1900, and the Nexus One with HSPA 900/1700/2100, how can I find out whether it'll even work with 3G in my country?

It was reported last night that a 3G version would also be available, largely because not providing such a phone would leave all of AT&Ts customers on the cold in the US.

[pwnst*r]

gnome, where did you read that? I'd prefer to stick with ATT for GMS rather than Tmo.

[LeifAndersen]

Well...it might be possible he read it here: http://mashable.com/2010/01/02/google-nexus-one-att/ Assuming it's reputable enough for you. :P

[pwnst*r]

BGR is good. Better than some random blog :)

[pwnst*r]

Well...it might be possible he read it here: http://mashable.com/2010/01/02/google-nexus-one-att/ Assuming it's reputable enough for you. :P

Haha, some of the people behind these types of comments must have **** between their ears.


LaToya says:
January 2, 2010 at 9:30 PM
Who cares who it goes to? If you want it, whether it supports AT&T or T-Mobile, buy it. Why would it matter if it goes to AT&T if T-Mobile is also going to support it?

rofl.

[HappinessNow]

http://ubuntuforums.org/image.php?groupid=698&dateline=1262514550
Google Nexus One (and all other future phones by Google)
Group Maintained by 今幸福
The Google Nexus One (and all other future phones by Google) Group for people who long for and hope to become owners of Google phones; Nexus One and all other phones by Google powered by the Android OS and any other future OS that Google may develop.http://ubuntuforums.org/group.php?groupid=698

Feel free to join up to discuss anything Nexus One or any Google Phone/Android related topic. Post pictures and have fun.

Right now we have 3 members; Thanks to both NCLI and act28 for joining up.

[Exodist]

One day I may get me a driod or one of the Nokia phones, prob when they are very common. But its going to be a while.

[HappinessNow]

One day I may get me a driod or one of the Nokia phones, prob when they are very common. But its going to be a while.Hey you could still join:


Group for people who long for and hope to become owners of Google phones

...one day is probably true for me as well. :P

[ekool]

Guys, just wanted to let you know there is a totally dedicated Nexus One Forum here:

http://www.nexusoneforum.net

[pwnst*r]

who would have thought!

[NCLI]

It was reported last night that a 3G version would also be available, largely because not providing such a phone would leave all of AT&Ts customers on the cold in the US.

Thanks a lot!:guitar:

[HappinessNow]

Guys, just wanted to let you know there is a totally dedicated Nexus One Forum here:

http://www.nexusoneforum.net
Hey Thanks for the link:


Threads: 155, Posts: 1,149, Members: 187
That was fast.

[Sunflower1970]

Gonna bump this up since it's getting close to Jan 5th.

I also found this: http://www.google.com/nexusone Nothing there quite yet, but looks like something will be there very soon. Check out the links at the bottom for the support and terms of service as well.

ETA some screenshots. They might disappear so here's what I saw. So far the Support page disappeared. The others might go soon

[pwnst*r]

Yeah I will be F5'ing whoever's covering the event tomorrow.

[LeifAndersen]

PwnSt*r: It'll be my blog. :P

All joking aside...I am very exciting, and like pwnst*r, I will also be making out with the refresh button.

[pwnst*r]

lol, how did I know you were going to say your blog ;D

[docus]

So, today's the day for some news?

[pwnst*r]

Yes.

[docus]

Yes.

Perhaps I should've just said 'bump' and left it at that.

[sn0m]

Yea I was very excited when android came out. However a few people gave it bad reviews when it came to syncronising it with evolution and linux.
I need a smart phone with gsm, wifi, bluetooth and to be able to synchronise calendar and contacts with evolution. Yes you can use google tools to sync, but I think that it is enough for google to read my emails and advertise as they please, why should I also let them know about my calendar and my contacts.
So I got a Nokia 5800 and looking forward to msyncit as soon as I lay my hands on it.
I do not know for a fact that google has a dark site, but sth isn't right.

Regards
Sokol

[LeifAndersen]

Well, I did find this: http://www.techcrunch.com/2010/01/05/google-nexus-one-product-page/

But I'm still looking to see if there is anyway I can get a stream of the event.

[pwnst*r]

http://live.gizmodo.com/

[LeifAndersen]

Thank you. I also found this:
http://www.engadget.com/2010/01/04/nexus-one-review/

[Sunflower1970]

I also found this: http://arstechnica.com/gadgets/news/2010/01/google-android-event-liveblog.ars?utm_source=rss&utm_medium=rss&utm_campaign=rss

[NCLI]

Ustream: http://www.ustream.tv/channel/google-android-press-gathering

[Sunflower1970]

Ustream: http://www.ustream.tv/channel/google-android-press-gathering

Thank you for that.

Okay. I'm convinced. I want this. Never had anything more than a prepaid phone before. I'm ready for the next step...:P

ETA: Looks like this is working..almost: http://www.google.com/nexusone

[LeifAndersen]

That one doesn't work, but this one does: http://www.google.com/phone

[Sunflower1970]

That one doesn't work, but this one does: http://www.google.com/phone

lol I just discovered that...Oooo. All I have to do is click 'purchase..' Soo tempting...I don't know. Should I or not....Decisions decisions...

[pwnst*r]

Verizon will be coming spring 2010, that's when I'll get one. ATT/Tmo suck.

[Sunflower1970]

Verizon will be coming spring 2010, that's when I'll get one. ATT/Tmo suck.

I have a prepaid phone with T-mobile and have been pretty happy with them. Service in my area, and when I have traveled has been really good (I'm actually surprised)...and I really like their non-contract pricing options.

[pwnst*r]

I have a prepaid phone with T-mobile and have been pretty happy with them. Service in my area, and when I have traveled has been really good (I'm actually surprised)...and I really like their non-contract pricing options.

I have ATT with my iPhone and it's hit and miss and the TMO customers I've talked to have said the same of their service here. It is what it is.

[LeifAndersen]

I'm currently on Verizon, so I will wait until Spring to get one too.

[pwnst*r]

so basically no surprises and nothing new other than the Verizon/Vodafone announcement.

[Dragonbite]

With the un-affiliated one was cheaper.

So, conceivably one could purchase it and never connect it to a carrier, but still get the apps and such similar to how the iPod touch is like the iPhone except without the phone part?

The site is slow right now, does it have WiFi? If it does, then if you can run GTalk or Skype, you could still make phone calls over WiFi and enjoy the apps without having to lock in to a carrier!

[LeifAndersen]

so basically no surprises and nothing new other than the Verizon/Vodafone announcement.

Well, I was right (partially) on the price leak being fake: http://leifandersen.net/2010/01/05/nexus-one-announcement/

While the price is the same, the lock in wasn't.

[pwnst*r]

With the un-affiliated one was cheaper.

So, conceivably one could purchase it and never connect it to a carrier, but still get the apps and such similar to how the iPod touch is like the iPhone except without the phone part?

The site is slow right now, does it have WiFi? If it does, then if you can run GTalk or Skype, you could still make phone calls over WiFi and enjoy the apps without having to lock in to a carrier!

Yes and yes, but that scenario doesn't work well for most of us.

[Sunflower1970]

With the un-affiliated one was cheaper.

So, conceivably one could purchase it and never connect it to a carrier, but still get the apps and such similar to how the iPod touch is like the iPhone except without the phone part?

The site is slow right now, does it have WiFi? If it does, then if you can run GTalk or Skype, you could still make phone calls over WiFi and enjoy the apps without having to lock in to a carrier!

Yeah, it does have wi-fi. I saw over Lifehacker that one could just get the data plan use Skype &/or Google Talk and save just under $500 over two years.

[LeifAndersen]

Yeah, it does have wi-fi. I saw over Lifehacker that one could just get the data plan use Skype &/or Google Talk and save just under $500 over two years.

If I were to do that though, I would rather buy a larger version of the device, a sort of tablet if you will, and use that as a phone. (Well, it would look awkward when I call someone though).

[pwnst*r]

Yeah, it does have wi-fi. I saw over Lifehacker that one could just get the data plan use Skype &/or Google Talk and save just under $500 over two years.

must be nice to have city-wide WiFi.

[Sunflower1970]

must be nice to have city-wide WiFi.

I wish.

No city-wide wi-fi here, although all downtown is covered, along with the east side, and I believe Zilker Park is covered as well. Lots of restaurants here have free wi-fi too. (Austin, TX)

(A good number of my neighbors have unsecured wi-fi as well...Not sure if they're doing it on purpose or just don't know any better...)

[pwnst*r]

re: your neighbors - the latter for sure.

[bapoumba]

"Sorry, the Nexus One phone is not available in your country."

Ahhhh.. /me faints.

[michaelpagz]

Still another year on my AT&T contract with a stupid propel. That'll give me enough time to decide whether Google is evil yet.

[pwnst*r]

"Sorry, the Nexus One phone is not available in your country."

Ahhhh.. /me faints.

not so fast...

http://www.engadget.com/2010/01/05/nexus-one-hitting-france-at-450-contract-free/

[kernelhaxor]

Yeah, it does have wi-fi. I saw over Lifehacker that one could just get the data plan use Skype &/or Google Talk and save just under $500 over two years.

how do you get just the data plan without a voice plan?

[Dragonbite]

Doubt it will be out in time for my contract renewal with Verizon in February, so do I go with the "new every two" now and look at Nexus later on in the year, or do I stick with what I currently have (which is nothing, because my wife's phone died and she's using mine.. ) and wait?

Decisions... decisions...

[Sunflower1970]

*ulp*

I just did it. I just bought the phone. I can't believe I just spent that much on it...I can still use my prepaid SIM card for voice until it runs out then make a decision on a plan if I want...Should be here in a day or so. FedEx overnight is free.

RE a data only plan. T-Mobile has a $39.99 data only plan: http://www.t-mobile.com/shop/plans/cell-phone-plans-detail.aspx?tp=tb1&rateplan=T-Mobile-Total-Internet-Rate-Plan

[bapoumba]

not so fast...

http://www.engadget.com/2010/01/05/nexus-one-hitting-france-at-450-contract-free/
Hey thanks !

My 2 years contract will be over in February this year. I then will be able to keep my current phone number even if I go with another company. Good :)

[pwnst*r]

*ulp*

I just did it. I just bought the phone. I can't believe I just spent that much on it...I can still use my prepaid SIM card for voice until it runs out then make a decision on a plan if I want...Should be here in a day or so. FedEx overnight is free.

RE a data only plan. T-Mobile has a $39.99 data only plan: http://www.t-mobile.com/shop/plans/cell-phone-plans-detail.aspx?tp=tb1&rateplan=T-Mobile-Total-Internet-Rate-Plan

looking forward to a real user review ;D

@bapoumba: np

[donniezazen]

Hello,

Do you thing that Nexus One will be able to beat iPhone?

I don't think so. For two reasons that nothing so far beat the iPod and stylish look of iPhone.

What's your take?

Thanks,
SK.

[pwnst*r]

you're too late.

[donniezazen]

you're too late.

I know.lol

[HappinessNow]

Hello,

Do you thing that Nexus One will be able to beat iPhone?

I don't think so. For two reasons that nothing so far beat the iPod and stylish look of iPhone.

What's your take?

Thanks,
SK.The Poll is defective by design, sorry can't participate.

How about this poll: Is dental floss better then Spandex? or is Intercellular connectivity better then Electric Sheep?

Then they would actually make a little more sense. :lolflag:

[LeifAndersen]

Well, actually I think it's more like asking: Are you going to watch the movie OR read the book, their not mutually exclusive.

[donniezazen]

Well, actually I think it's more like asking: Are you going to watch the movie OR read the book, their not mutually exclusive.

Well book and movie are different things but iPhone and Nexus One both are phone. You cannot watch a book and read a movie but you can make call using both iPhone or Nexus One.

[donniezazen]

The Poll is defective by design, sorry can't participate.

How about this poll: Is dental floss better then Spandex? or is Intercellular connectivity better then Electric Sheep?

Then they would actually make a little more sense. :lolflag:

Be respectful of all users at all times. This means please use etiquette and politeness. Treat people with kindness and gentleness. If you do this the rest of the code of conduct won't need more than a cursory mention.

[hobo14]

The Poll is defective by design, sorry can't participate.

How about this poll: Is dental floss better then Spandex? or is Intercellular connectivity better then Electric Sheep?

Then they would actually make a little more sense. :lolflag:

That's just a silly thing to say.

[garryknight]

You missed out "No phones". :)

[donniezazen]

You missed out "No phones". :)

Why would i ask people who don't use or want to use phone?

[kkinder]

I've already got another Android phone -- a G1 (rooted). I'm not inclined to buy a Nexus One unless there's a clear and permanent path to rooting it, and even then, I really would like to stop supporting companies (including Google) that sell consumer devices that are "locked". Would you buy an Ubuntu box without root, or for that matter a Windows box without an admin account? Of course not -- and you shouldn't settle for anything less with a smartphone either.

Kind of ironic from a company that claims its motto is, "don't be evil."

Having to "hack into" your own freaking hardware is the very definition of evil in consumer electronics.

[beastrace91]

I'll be rocking my N900 (http://maemo.nokia.com/n900/) k-thnx. Debian technology ftw.

~Jeff

[beastrace91]

I've already got another Android phone -- a G1 (rooted). I'm not inclined to buy a Nexus One unless there's a clear and permanent path to rooting it, and even then, I really would like to stop supporting companies (including Google) that sell consumer devices that are "locked". Would you buy an Ubuntu box without root, or for that matter a Windows box without an admin account? Of course not -- and you shouldn't settle for anything less with a smartphone either.

Kind of ironic from a company that claims its motto is, "don't be evil."

Having to "hack into" your own freaking hardware is the very definition of evil in consumer electronics.

See the phone mentioned in my above post - no hacks or cracks need to gain full access on it.

~Jeff

[pwnst*r]

I'll be rocking my N900 (http://maemo.nokia.com/n900/) k-thnx. Debian technology ftw.

~Jeff

except it pretty worthless as a smartphone in the U.S.

[beastrace91]

except it pretty worthless as a smartphone in the U.S.

Why do you say that? Its been working rather well for myself...

~Jeff

[pwnst*r]

Why do you say that? Its been working rather well for myself...

~Jeff

What carrier do you use it with? What's your data plan pricing? I'm going to assume TMO?

[beastrace91]

What carrier do you use it with? What's your data plan pricing? I'm going to assume TMO?

I've had AT&T for a long while and I just moved my SIM card from my old blackberry into the N900 and it works just fine. However AT&T 3g is wonderfully slow as always... Looking into TMO actually.

~Jeff

[pwnst*r]

I stand corrected - I forgot that it was going to be GSM, but that no U.S. carrier would sell it. It's a bit bulky but may be a good trade off for the power. I wonder how it compares to the snapdragon.

[donniezazen]

I'll be rocking my N900 (http://maemo.nokia.com/n900/) k-thnx. Debian technology ftw.

~Jeff

I owed a Nokia n810. Its a great device. But the webpage rendering of iPhone is far superior than that of n810. Hope n900 is better.

[beastrace91]

I owed a Nokia n810. Its a great device. But the webpage rendering of iPhone is far superior than that of n810. Hope n900 is better.

N900 is a full web browser. My brother has an iPhone and I must say the N900 (firefox powered) browser kicks the crap out of it. Full flash support plus ad block = win on a mobile device thehe :)

~Jeff

[BuffaloX]

You missed out "No phones". :)

+1


Why would i ask people who don't use or want to use phone?

Maybe I just bought one?
I use a mobile phone, everybody I know in fact use one. Even kids aged less than 10 use them.

I don't want a smartphone, they are too expensive IMO.
You can almost get a GPS navigator a mobile phone and a netbook for the price of one smartphone.

But I believe Android will beat IPhone, Android seems to be a superior concept.

[pwnst*r]

+1




I don't want a smartphone, they are too expensive IMO.
You can almost get a GPS navigator a mobile phone and a netbook for the price of one smartphone.



most people don't want to carry three devices. it's pretty simple.

[donniezazen]

+1



Maybe I just bought one?
I use a mobile phone, everybody I know in fact use one. Even kids aged less than 10 use them.

I don't want a smartphone, they are too expensive IMO.
You can almost get a GPS navigator a mobile phone and a netbook for the price of one smartphone.

But I believe Android will beat IPhone, Android seems to be a superior concept.

Considering the fact that iPhone will stop its development. Open source will always attract the adventurous ones, so, i don't see Android beating iPhone.


most people don't want to carry three devices. it's pretty simple.

Same problem here. I would love to have an Android Phone but don't want to carry a phone, an iPod, a netbook, etc.

[BuffaloX]

most people don't want to carry three devices. it's pretty simple.

I know, but considering most GPS's contain much of the hardware, like the ARM processor and touch screen, The netbook has the wireless, and most phones have basic internet, you have more than all the components that make up the smartphone.
This makes me believe that smartphones are generally overpriced in comparison.


Considering the fact that iPhone will stop its development. Open source will always attract the adventurous ones, so, i don't see Android beating iPhone.


iPhone will stop its development, and this will help it stay on top?
I completely do not understand. :confused:

[the yawner]

"Sorry, the Nexus One phone is not available in your country."


Same here. But on a farther side of the globe. :(

[HappinessNow]

Yeah, it does have wi-fi. I saw over Lifehacker that one could just get the data plan use Skype &/or Google Talk and save just under $500 over two years.Okay I am coming in late, so your saying I can buy the Nexus One and get the unlimited data plan and just connect for phone calls with Skype &/ or Google Talk (do you mean Google Voice)? do you have a link to the Lifehacker article?

Edit: found lifehacker article:

http://lifehacker.com/5440399/how-a-530-nexus-one-might-actually-make-sense

[HappinessNow]

Okay I am coming in late, so your saying I can buy the Nexus One and get the unlimited data plan and just connect for phone calls with Skype &/ or Google Talk (do you mean Google Voice)? do you have a link to the Lifehacker article?

Edit: found lifehacker article:

http://lifehacker.com/5440399/how-a-530-nexus-one-might-actually-make-sense
Which is heavily reliant on this article:

http://lifehacker.com/5354607/make-and-receive-free-phone-calls-with-google-voice-and-android

[HappinessNow]

Be respectful of all users at all times. This means please use etiquette and politeness. Treat people with kindness and gentleness. If you do this the rest of the code of conduct won't need more than a cursory mention.'people' does not equal 'poll' :P

You could be an awesome person but just make bad polls, but the label 'bad poll' is simply my opinion about the poll not reflective on you as a person. My apologies if my opinion offended you, it was not and is not my intent.

Happy day ;)

[HappinessNow]

Take a gander at the WSJ article:

http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052748703580904574638582669722774.html?m od=WSJ_PersonalTechnology_LEADTop

[hobo14]

Bets on what will be the first crack/workaround?
I'm putting my money on breaking the ridiculous 190 MB app limit.

Just waiting for Google to start selling in Aus so I can buy one...

[madnessjack]

Bets on what will be the first crack/workaround?
I'm putting my money on breaking the ridiculous 190 MB app limit.

Just waiting for Google to start selling in Aus so I can buy one...
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nexus_One

It's all there. It's almost like Google allow us to do it too. Just voids the warranty.

[pwnst*r]

Can someone PLEASE remove that rubbish poll from my thread.

[NCLI]

Thought I'd post this :D
http://ubuntuforums.org/attachment.php?attachmentid=142670&stc=1&d=1262786880

[kevdog]

Ok I joined the group, but I've had a hacked 2.1 ROM on my Droid for awhile. I'm not sure what the Nexus is going to give you other than a faster processor (which may burn battery life), on an inferior wireless network here in the US (TMobile). Maybe its just me, but I've been previewing 2.1 for weeks, and although there have been some tweeks compared to 2.0.1 I would say its a minor step forward and not a major step!!!

[ukripper]

All the way for DROID here !! when uk version is out on affordable contract then i'll get it. Nexus one looks tacky

[Excedio]

Isn't everyone else a little peaved about this:


Walt Mossberg points out one limitation: "On the Nexus One, only 190 megabytes of its total 4.5 gigabytes of memory is allowed for storing apps. On the $199 iPhone, nearly all of the 16 gigabytes of memory can be used for apps."

http://ptech.allthingsd.com/20100105/googles-nexus-one-is-bold-new-face-in-super-smartphones/?mod=ATD_iphone

[NCLI]

Isn't everyone else a little peaved about this:



http://ptech.allthingsd.com/20100105/googles-nexus-one-is-bold-new-face-in-super-smartphones/?mod=ATD_iphone

Meh, it's easy to make a symbolic link to the SD card and make it store your apps there. No biggie for me :D

[Sunflower1970]

Thought I'd post this :D
http://ubuntuforums.org/attachment.php?attachmentid=142670&stc=1&d=1262786880

Mine will be here today, too. But I won't be home to sign for it. (Am at work) I'll have pick it up when they open tomorrow.

*cries*

[legolas_w]

Hi,

What do you think about the durability of nexus one? Is it really durable compared to CLIQ?

We usually wear jeans and putting it in our pockets may harm the LCD wouldn't it?


Thanks

[NCLI]

Mine will be here today, too. But I won't be home to sign for it. (Am at work) I'll have pick it up when they open tomorrow.

*cries*

I won't have mine today either. First of all, I'm having it engraved(As you can see on the screencap), so that'll take a few days. Even then, I'll have to wait for one of my friends in the US to ship it to me, as Google doesn't ship to Denmark yet :(

In other words, I'll probably have it early next week.

[legolas_w]

What do you think about poor rating of Nexus one in gsmarena?
http://www.gsmarena.com/compare.php3?idPhone2=2934&idPhone1=3069

[NCLI]

What do you think about poor rating of Nexus one in gsmarena?
http://www.gsmarena.com/compare.php3?idPhone2=2934&idPhone1=3069

Nothing much. From what I can see it counts user votes, not professional reviews. As no one who isn't a reviewer will have the phone 'till tomorrow at the very earliest, I think it's just iPhone fanboys posting all zeroes, and Android fanboys posting all tens.

[NCLI]

"Sorry, the Nexus One phone is not available in your country."

Ahhhh.. /me faints.

What I did was to have a friend in the US order it for me. You could also just use a US proxy server to access the page, but it still won't ship to Europe.

[sudoer541]

It looks like OMG!!!! I want it!!!

is it a flip/slide phone?
how long does the battery last?
does nexus work with FIDO (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fido_Solutions) in Canada?
How much does it cost (to buy the phone no contracts etc)?
Is the Nexus available in Canada?
Does it work in ubuntu? (sync music picz etc)?

[sudoer541]

OMG!!!! it costs $530!!!! thats xpensive!!!! OMG!!! its just a phone lol+:P:(

[NCLI]

OMG!!!! it costs $530!!!! thats xpensive!!!! OMG!!! its just a phone lol+:P:(

Unlocked, yes ;) You can buy it with a carrier.

[PhoenixMaster00]

Ordered mine no idea how long it will take to ship to the UK though :(. People keep saying its expensive but in pounds i believe it works out at about 365 quid wit added tax and shipping which is cheaper than the Milestone/Droid (£399 - which has strangely gone down 60 quid since Nexus One came out...), HTC Hero (Also £399) and the HTC HD2 (£499) the Acer Liquid beats it by 30 quid but for that you get a lot more for your money.

[KiwiNZ]

Poll deleted by request

[pwnst*r]

Awesome, thank you.

[hobo14]

Isn't everyone else a little peeved about this:

http://ptech.allthingsd.com/20100105/googles-nexus-one-is-bold-new-face-in-super-smartphones/?mod=ATD_iphone

Try looking 5 posts above yours.

[CJ Master]

Unlocked, yes ;) You can buy it with a carrier.

Which, in the long run, costs you over 2K.

[donniezazen]

OMG!!!! it costs $530!!!! thats xpensive!!!! OMG!!! its just a phone lol+:P:(

With or without its going to cost a lot. Smartphones are useless without internet.

With a Carrier

180+12*79.99*12=1139.88 (Regular T-Mobile Plan with internet)

Without a Carrier

530+53*12=1166.00 (T-Mobile 300 min with my faves and no internet)

iPhone

199+69.99*12=1038.88 (ATT 450 rollover 3G)

Decide for yourself.

[aysiu]

With or without its going to cost a lot. Smartphones are useless without internet.

With a Carrier

180+12*79.99*12=1139.88 (Regular T-Mobile Plan with internet)

Without a Carrier

530+53*12=1166.00 (T-Mobile 300 min with my faves and no internet)

iPhone

199+69.99*12=1038.88 (ATT 450 rollover 3G)

Decide for yourself. I don't see how the iPhone figures in here at all.

Android phone
Works with Linux. Can use the Google Voice application. In fact, can install any application without a need for jailbreaking/rooting. Easy, however, to root. Google will not fight the rooting or try to make it impossible for you to root your phone.

iPhone
Doesn't work properly with Linux. Jailbreaking breaks with every update thanks to Apple. Apple will arbitrarily reject certain apps. In order to install rejected apps, you have to jailbreak your iPhone.

Seems like a no-brainer to me to avoid the iPhone if you're a Linux user.

To address some other misconceptions in this thread: Google Voice is a phone routing and voicemail service. It is does not (currently, anyway) allow you to make phone calls without the use of a phone line. It is not a substitute for Skype. I don't know about this 190 MB limit for apps, because I have never even come close to hitting that, and I have installed every app I find interesting. I think I have something like 10-12 apps installed, and I've used about 50 MB of my 512 MB ROM on my MyTouch 3G. More importantly, if you are someone who needs to install hundreds of apps, it is easy to root an Android device, and almost all rooted Android ROMs include automatic Apps2SD as long as you have an Ext2, Ext3, or Ext4 partition on your MicroSD card. If you're in the US and money is an issue (and you are not going for the iPhone), I'd recommend looking into the MyTouch 3G or even the original G1 phone. I have a MyTouch 3G with the absolute cheapest plan. After taxes, I pay $54 a month. My wife has an iPhone on AT&T with the cheapest plan and, after taxes, she pays $88 a month.

Of course, she also pays for text messages. I don't pay for those because I get free text messaging with Google Voice. She has a Google Voice account but can't use the Google Voice app on her iPhone because Apple rejected the app.

It's unfortunate that the T-Mobile Nexus One plan is mandated to be a more expensive plan that includes unlimited texting. Texting is expensive, and since Nexus One comes with Google Voice already installed, that would seem a logical thing to make optional. I guess T-Mobile wasn't too keen on losing texting revenue to Google Voice...

[donniezazen]

I don't see how the iPhone figures in here at all.

Android phone
Works with Linux. Can use the Google Voice application. In fact, can install any application without a need for jailbreaking/rooting. Easy, however, to root. Google will not fight the rooting or try to make it impossible for you to root your phone.

iPhone
Doesn't work properly with Linux. Jailbreaking breaks with every update thanks to Apple. Apple will arbitrarily reject certain apps. In order to install rejected apps, you have to jailbreak your iPhone.

Seems like a no-brainer to me to avoid the iPhone if you're a Linux user.

To address some other misconceptions in this thread: Google Voice is a phone routing and voicemail service. It is does not (currently, anyway) allow you to make phone calls without the use of a phone line. It is not a substitute for Skype. I don't know about this 190 MB limit for apps, because I have never even come close to hitting that, and I have installed every app I find interesting. I think I have something like 10-12 apps installed, and I've used about 50 MB of my 512 MB ROM on my MyTouch 3G. More importantly, if you are someone who needs to install hundreds of apps, it is easy to root an Android device, and almost all rooted Android ROMs include automatic Apps2SD as long as you have an Ext2, Ext3, or Ext4 partition on your MicroSD card. If you're in the US and money is an issue (and you are not going for the iPhone), I'd recommend looking into the MyTouch 3G or even the original G1 phone. I have a MyTouch 3G with the absolute cheapest plan. After taxes, I pay $54 a month. My wife has an iPhone on AT&T with the cheapest plan and, after taxes, she pays $88 a month.

Of course, she also pays for text messages. I don't pay for those because I get free text messaging with Google Voice. She has a Google Voice account but can't use the Google Voice app on her iPhone because Apple rejected the app.

It's unfortunate that the T-Mobile Nexus One plan is mandated to be a more expensive plan that includes unlimited texting. Texting is expensive, and since Nexus One comes with Google Voice already installed, that would seem a logical thing to make optional. I guess T-Mobile wasn't too keen on losing texting revenue to Google Voice...

Chill. Take it easy. iPhone plan was for just comparison. As far as i know Google voice cannot be used without internet. If i am right you can't have a 3G connection in $54 plan. How can you text then without internet?

SK

[pwnst*r]

I don't see how the iPhone figures in here at all.



I didn't start this thread to be about phone or phones that are only compatible with linux, so not sure why you even bothered posting that.

[aysiu]

Chill. Take it easy. iPhone plan was for just comparison. As far as i know Google voice cannot be used without internet. If i am right you can't have a 3G connection in $54 plan. How can you text then without internet?

SK I have unlimited data (yes, on 3G) and 300 minutes of talk included in my $54 (tax included) plan.


I didn't start this thread to be about phone or phones that are only compatible with linux, so not sure why you even bothered posting that. You didn't start the thread to be the only one talking. This is a Linux forum. It's only natural to discuss whether phones are compatible with Linux or not.

[pwnst*r]

Never said I was the only one talking. But I'm not limiting it to just a linux compatible phone either, so the iPhone reference was a good one, just not for you.

[aysiu]

Never said I was the only one talking. But I'm not limiting it to just a linux compatible phone either, so the iPhone reference was a good one, just not for you.
I'm not forbidding anyone from talking about the iPhone. I'm just saying if you are a Linux user, then cost is not the only factor involved. Compatible matters, too.

But if cost does matter, I thought it was also worth mentioning that my phone's plan is cheaper than my wife's iPhone plan.

Unfortunately, the agreement Google and T-Mobile have seems to dictate you get the absolutely most expensive T-Mobile plan in order to get the subsidized Nexus One.

[pwnst*r]

That plan is cheap compared to ATT and Verizon though.

[aysiu]

That plan is cheap compared to ATT and Verizon though.
But AT&T and Verizon have better coverage.

I live in a metropolitan area, so I don't mind using T-Mobile, but if you're in a more rural area, T-Mobile is probably a bad choice.

[pwnst*r]

I agree that Verizon has better coverage, but TMO has been on par with ATT in NY, CA, and AZ where I have lived. Matter of fact, I have ATT right now and coverage here is hit and miss with 3G.

[00ber n00b]

Didn't read the whole thread. Are there any concerns with the trackballs of these phones?

[pwnst*r]

Nope.

[00ber n00b]

Hmmm...also, I know how Verizon likes to cripple their phones. How will Verizon be able to fanangle their way into crippling this phone?! Plus, I'm sure TOS will be an issue for faulty handsets and such...

[pwnst*r]

I doubt google would allow that, but... you never know, so I shall wait for the Verizon offering before I make up my mind.

[MaxCarnage]

My experience with AT&T has been pretty disappointing. In the small town I live just outside of, twenty miles south of San Antonio (AT&T's former HQ town before they moved to Dallas), I get zero 3G reception and EDGE is spotty. Verizon and Sprint bother offer full 3G in my area. It's one of the two reasons that I'm buying out the last of my contract with them in July and switching to Verizon.

Can't talk and surf the web at the same time? At least I'll be able to do them.

I like the look of the Google phone and my past smartphones have been HTCs and I really, really liked them. It'll be interesting to see what's available six months from now.

[MaxCarnage]

Double post and I don't see the delete option.

[pwnst*r]

Max, that's what I'm getting right now also. Also, surf and talk at the same time? How often do you even DO that. Stupid ATT retort.

[00ber n00b]

Same. I'm using the bb tour right now. I think it's pretty awesome, but the trackballs inevitably break. I'm always looking at the new toys on the market. We'll see what Verizon has to say...

[MaxCarnage]

Same. I'm using the bb tour right now. I think it's pretty awesome, but the trackballs inevitably break. I'm always looking at the new toys on the market. We'll see what Verizon has to say...
I get BlackBerries for work and don't like them. The browser is really dated and I am so used to the iPhone keyboard it's hard to use hardware keyboards now.

I've never heard of Verizon crippling their phones, but one of my good friends got a Droid and it's pretty nice. I don't see where they might have crippled it.

[pwnst*r]

They used to cripple their phones, just like Sprint. They were notorious for it.

[00ber n00b]

I get BlackBerries for work and don't like them. The browser is really dated and I am so used to the iPhone keyboard it's hard to use hardware keyboards now.

I've never heard of Verizon crippling their phones, but one of my good friends got a Droid and it's pretty nice. I don't see where they might have crippled it.

I love bb's (eventhough the tour is my first). I love how everything is integrated, you can do virtually anything from this phone. I like the physical keyboard, I just type so fast on them, but, I'm trying to ease my way over to the darkside, I like the idea of the extra screen real estate,etc.

Yes. They have crippled phones in the past. A quick google search will reveal loads of info. on the topic. But, these new open source phones may be changing the old ways of Verizon(at least with the google/Android phones).

[amitabhishek]

The problem with Android phones are that OEM firmware comes with lots of restrictions. I am sure it will be true with N1 too. Often a cooked ROM from modders like Cyanogen or Haykuro perform much better than the original ROM.

Going by feature to feature comparison with N1; I feel my modded(Cyanogen)HTC Magic is better than N1. Good news is folks out there have already found out ways to unlock the bootloader in N1 (http://www.sizzledcore.com/2010/01/07/unlock-nexus-one-bootloader-in-android-2-1/) so a custom ROM is not far off. :D

[m0o]

Noise cancellation looks like a nice feature. I wish the pricing rumors were true though, it would've been a great buy then. Since out of contract it's close to the Nokia N900, I rather get that instead of the Nexus One. The physical keyboard in a must if you're going to hack it for all it's worth!

[donniezazen]

The problem with Android phones are that OEM firmware comes with lots of restrictions. I am sure it will be true with N1 too. Often a cooked ROM from modders like Cyanogen or Haykuro perform much better than the original ROM.

Going by feature to feature comparison with N1; I feel my modded(Cyanogen)HTC Magic is better than N1. Good news is folks out there have already found out ways to unlock the bootloader in N1 (http://www.sizzledcore.com/2010/01/07/unlock-nexus-one-bootloader-in-android-2-1/) so a custom ROM is not far off. :D

True. First Android Phone G1 couldn't be opened without a Gmail account and was useless without 3G. Do you call it open source?

[pwnst*r]

Not sure about the gmail bit, but how was it useless without 3G?

[donniezazen]

Not sure about the gmail bit, but how was it useless without 3G?

As far as i know you cannot even start G1 without a Gmail account for which you need a 3G connection. So no wifi. iPhone at least has an excellent music player and thanks to iPhone Dev team, it takes like a min to unlock iPhone.

[aktiwers]

Sorry, the Nexus One phone is not available in your country.
Argh! How long will it say that?

I'm in northern europe.

[00ber n00b]

Sorry, the Nexus One phone is not available in your country.
Argh! How long will it say that?

I'm in northern europe.

Vodafone is suppose to be getting the nexus one...don't know what that means to you.

[pwnst*r]

As far as i know you cannot even start G1 without a Gmail account for which you need a 3G connection. So no wifi. iPhone at least has an excellent music player and thanks to iPhone Dev team, it takes like a min to unlock iPhone.

Huh? You don't need 3G to use email. Also, what do you mean "no WiFi". It's got WiFi.

[donniezazen]

Huh? You don't need 3G to use email. Also, what do you mean "no WiFi". It's got WiFi.

I did not say that you need 3G to check your gmail account. I meant you need Google account to activate the phone. And before activating its just a piece of plastic so 'no WIFI'.

[pwnst*r]

As far as i know you cannot even start G1 without a Gmail account for which you need a 3G connection.

That's exactly what you said.

[Johnsie]

This is not the G1 so let's try and avoid talking about that phone. I don't like that Google is collecting tonnes of infomation about people but I'm considering buying this phone because the specs are pretty good.

The cost of the phone is good too, because you don't have to get it through a contract. It's pretty close to the N97 but I think the processor and the RAM will give it a good performance boost. Comparing it to the Iphone is like comparing chalk and cheese... The iphone looks nice, but it's technical specs are actually quite low.

[HappinessNow]

Ok I joined the group, but I've had a hacked 2.1 ROM on my Droid for awhile. I'm not sure what the Nexus is going to give you other than a faster processor (which may burn battery life), on an inferior wireless network here in the US (TMobile). Maybe its just me, but I've been previewing 2.1 for weeks, and although there have been some tweeks compared to 2.0.1 I would say its a minor step forward and not a major step!!!Awesome glad to see people are joining the The Google Nexus One Ubuntu Forums Group:
http://ubuntuforums.org/group.php?groupid=698


Thought I'd post this :D
http://ubuntuforums.org/attachment.php?attachmentid=142670&stc=1&d=1262786880Awesome glad to see your getting the Google Nexus One in Northen Europe (Denmark)!

[Redache]

I've got a Hero coming Saturday. I got a good upgrade deal and I get free Spotify Premium for 2 years with it.

The reason I'm interested in Android phones is app development, I can't do app development for the iPhone without a) Owning a Mac and B) Paying to be able to load said app onto an iPhone.

[LeifAndersen]

^^^I second that. It drives me nuts that I have to go to the mac portion of the CADE lab at my university if I want to develop iPhone apps. (On the upside though, the mac portion of the cade lab is very quiet, with most people spending time in the Linux and Windows portions).

[Sunflower1970]

My Nexus One arrived last night. I've been playing with it as much as I can. I'm in love.

I've never had a smartphone (or as Google's calling this a 'superphone') before so I have nothing really to compare it to. I've played around with an iPhone before, but not enough to really get used to it.

I don't have a SIM card for it, yet. I thought my prepaid plan would work with it, but it doesn't so I'll be off to T-Mobile to buy a plan. I was using it with wifi as much as possible last night, though and that works pretty well. I'm very happy with that bit of it. I only wish I could get a signal at my workplace today. :(

I don't even know where to begin. I'm a little overwhelmed with all the features it has.

The weight feels pretty good in my hands. Not too heavy, but doesn't feel like it'll slip out of my grip either.

I replaced the 4GB microSD card with a 16GB microSD card I had bought for my Sansa Fuze. (Darn. Guess I'll just have to buy another one for the Fuze)

I love that it synced all my Google accounts up. (but then that was expected lol)

One of the creepier things I discovered is when I opened Google Maps and it 'located' me within 100 meters of where I live. I then went into street view and zoomed around the streets till I found my home. It was very fast and the picture was great

I tried out the app store last night, and was impressed with all the goodies I could download. Pandora, Amazon, Frozen-Bubble, different Solitaire programs, and the obligatory fart app. Tons of laughs a minute.

I played around with the camera, and I'm happy with the pics it takes. I do agree with some of the criticisms that there should be a hardware button instead of the one on the screen. I found that just a touch awkward.

I'm also not used to typing on the screen. I'll need to cut my fingernails to be able to use it more efficiently, me thinks.

One thing I definitely noticed today is trying to use this thing outside on a sunny day will be near impossible. Granted, I do have a screen protector on it which make it worse than if I were take it off. (I found a package of crappy old ones I had for my iPaq years ago, but I'll cope with these until I can find some better ones).

Tried out the music player with some of the songs I had on my microSD card and it sounds pretty good.

I know there were some criticisms of the trackball. I wasn't sure what to make of it last night, but as of this morning, I can say I will probably use it quite a bit. I like that that option is there. (Makes playing Frozen Bubble a lot easier lol)

All in all I'm very happy with this purchase. I don't know if it's an 'iPhone killer' I doubt it, but it's a great alternative for those that don't want to be tied in to AT&T (or Verizon which I guess will be coming this summer?)

[LeifAndersen]

Gah, app store. :( The app store isn't open source, and as such, the only way to see the actual apps, is to get the phone. (The emulator won't do it.

[Dragonbite]

What music format were you playing? Does it come with MP3 playback ability?

[pwnst*r]

Does it come with MP3 playback ability?

yes of course

[Sunflower1970]

What music format were you playing? Does it come with MP3 playback ability?

I didn't even think about that. I was playing mp3's.

*goes to test ogg files*

Yep it plays them. (yay!)

I don't have any other formats other than mp3 and ogg to try out.

[aysiu]

I think all Android phones play MP3 and Ogg. My certainly does.

[HappinessNow]

One of the creepier things I discovered is when I opened Google Maps and it 'located' me within 100 meters of where I live. I then went into street view and zoomed around the streets till I found my home. It was very fast and the picture was great


A cool application that I like when I tried the Droid out at the Verizon store...is the night sky app...it automatically knows where ever you are at and shows you all the stars and constellations....maybe not that amazing but cool!

[Dragonbite]

I didn't even think about that. I was playing mp3's.

*goes to test ogg files*

Yep it plays them. (yay!)

I don't have any other formats other than mp3 and ogg to try out.

Awesome! I currently have an iPod shuffle which only does MP3 (and apple's format) but would love to move everything into Ogg (or Flack) and have a player I don't have to convert the formt to/from anything.

I'm just not keen on paying more for a cell plan than I have to. I'd be fine with a no-data package, just basic cell coverage and limit my internet activity to wifi. At least, for now...

[donniezazen]

I think all Android phones play MP3 and Ogg. My certainly does.

What about flac?

[sudoer541]

With or without its going to cost a lot. Smartphones are useless without internet.

With a Carrier

180+12*79.99*12=1139.88 (Regular T-Mobile Plan with internet)

Without a Carrier

530+53*12=1166.00 (T-Mobile 300 min with my faves and no internet)

iPhone

199+69.99*12=1038.88 (ATT 450 rollover 3G)

Decide for yourself.


ya but it has wifi so I think any non data/internet plan will do right?

[pwnst*r]

Well if it's like other smart phones, then the carrier won't sell it withOUT the purchase of a data plan, but I'm not sure about the N1.

[donniezazen]

ya but it has wifi so I think any non data/internet plan will do right?

It will work without a data plan but then you pay 530 instead of 180 that is $350 more which is roughly the cost of having a data plan for a year. Most of the services in smartphones require internet like GPS, etc.

[donniezazen]

Well if it's like other smart phones, then the carrier won't sell it withOUT the purchase of a data plan, but I'm not sure about the N1.

Well this is good business. Google is selling it with options. Either pay subsidized amount and have our plan or pay $530 bucks and have your own plan. So, that they can have as many customers as possible.

[sudoer541]

It will work without a data plan but then you pay 530 instead of 180 that is $350 more which is roughly the cost of having a data plan for a year. Most of the services in smartphones require internet like GPS, etc.

I dont understand. lets say I buy the phone and just swap my SIM card from my old regular phone to nexus one. I should be able to make phone calls normally right?
nexus has built in WIFI so I can still use internet services as long as I am connected to my home network.
btw I am not an expert when it comes to mobile phones and providers so bare with me lol.

[sudoer541]

Well this is good business. Google is selling it with options. Either pay subsidized amount and have our plan or pay $530 bucks and have your own plan. So, that they can have as many customers as possible.

thats what I think I will do, I will just buy the phone.

[donniezazen]

I dont understand. lets say I buy the phone and just swap my SIM card from my old regular phone to nexus one. I should be able to make phone calls normally right?
nexus has built in WIFI so I can still use internet services as long as I am connected to my home network.
btw I am not an expert when it comes to mobile phones and providers so bare with me lol.

No problem. I don't have N1 so i don't know how exactly it works. I am telling you as my personal experience with other smartphones.

You are correct you can use it like regular phone without a data plan and you can use the internet services using the wifi. That is what i do with my iPhone. Most of the time i am either at home or at my school, both of these places have wifi, so its no big deal for me.

According to my assessment, its better to buy it on contract because you save $350 that can be used for data plan for whole year. I am not sure if you can change your plan later that would be a good question to ask from T-mobile customer care.

[pwnst*r]

I dont understand. lets say I buy the phone and just swap my SIM card from my old regular phone to nexus one. I should be able to make phone calls normally right?
nexus has built in WIFI so I can still use internet services as long as I am connected to my home network.
btw I am not an expert when it comes to mobile phones and providers so bare with me lol.

depends who you have service with now. ATT or TMO?



On another note, no multi-touch for us Americans.

http://www.engadget.com/2010/01/07/surprise-surprise-htcs-euro-spec-nexus-one-does-multitouch/#comments

[Dharmachakra]

Hmmm. No multi-touch is disappointing. Not a show-stopper though.

[pwnst*r]

I agree. I've used multi on my iPhone only a couple of times.

[aysiu]

Multi-touch is cool, but it also (at least for the browser) compensates for bad rendering.

On my wife's iPhone, there is, for certain webpages, a lot of side-scrolling that's necessary in order to read text. If you zoom out too far with the finger-pinching, the text gets too small to read.

What's great about the Android Browser is that you almost never have to zoom in or out at all. The text automatically renders as to fit into a narrow column to read.

Of course, before people think I'm iPhone bashing, the multi-touch is neat for zooming in on photos, and being able to swipe to a new photo is much smoother than having to wait until the left or right arrow appears and then tapping the arrow to get to the next photo. (Also, the Android Browser has the annoying habit of refreshing windows every time you refocus on them even if it's highly unlikely the page's content has changed in the last five minutes.)

That said, it is pretty easy to install a rooted Android ROM and most of them come with multi-touch enabled. If you don't want to root your phone, you can also install the Dolphin web browser, which has multi-touch enabled.

[amitabhishek]

What about flac?

Modded ROMs support FLAC.

[donniezazen]

Is multitouch a hardware or a software feature?

[aysiu]

Is multitouch a hardware or a software feature?
Both.

In the case of the Android phones, the hardware is capable of supporting multi-touch but the software has been crippled (at least in the US) so as not to take advantage of that ability.

[CJ Master]

Both.

In the case of the Android phones, the hardware is capable of supporting multi-touch but the software has been crippled (at least in the US) so as not to take advantage of that ability.

...I see no reason why to cripple an ability that would seemingly have little legal ramifications?

[donniezazen]

Both.

In the case of the Android phones, the hardware is capable of supporting multi-touch but the software has been crippled (at least in the US) so as not to take advantage of that ability.

So probably people will crack it. Is their anything like Jailbreaking in Android so that you can install non-app store apps or unauthenticated app.


...I see no reason why to cripple an ability that would seemingly have little legal ramifications?

I think Apple has patent of multitouch.

[CJ Master]

So probably people will crack it. Is their anything like Jailbreaking in Android so that you can install non-app store apps or unauthenticated app.

Rooting.

[amitabhishek]

Is their anything like Jailbreaking in Android so that you can install non-app store apps or unauthenticated app.

Rooting does allow you install apps. to tether or to take screenshots. However in most cases you have to only do this from settings menu...

http://img697.imageshack.us/img697/8131/devicen.png

quite unlike iPhones :).

[starcannon]

Until someone can give me a ten-word answer to how Mountain View can manage to build an ecosystem while trying to compete with it, I will remain skeptical that the Google Phone ever comes to market.



They (Google) appear to have used several marketing strategies, and here it is, for sale:
https://www.google.com/phone/choose?locale=en_US&s7e=

I like Engadget a lot, but everyone can get it wrong, and they definitely didn't think out side the box enough on this one.

Link to engadget article that I quoted:
http://www.engadget.com/2009/12/15/entelligence-a-google-phone-could-be-the-death-of-android/

[madnessjack]

It's just like with the iPhone though isn't it. Only time will tell...

[TironN]

Any chance of an AUS realease date yet?
I'm debating whether it will be worth the wait for a Droid milestone/Nexus one or I go for a HTC magic.

Thoughts?

[hobo14]

Any chance of an AUS realease date yet?
I'm debating whether it will be worth the wait for a Droid milestone/Nexus one or I go for a HTC magic.

Thoughts?

Yeah I'm waiting too. Tossing up whether to buy it from the US now, or wait until it's released. I imagine the official price here will be higher than in the US (they usually seem to be) but probably not the AUD$1000 some are charging on ebay. Crazy when our dollar is 91 US cents!

[the yawner]

Me, I'm seriously doubting if it will be available on my local market. But I may have a means to import it from the US. Still, I was initially looking forward on SE's X10 so I'm still undecided. :(

[pwnst*r]

Rooting does allow you install apps. to tether or to take screenshots. However in most cases you have to only do this from settings menu...

http://img697.imageshack.us/img697/8131/devicen.png

quite unlike iPhones :).

Wait, what's quite unlike the iPhone?

[amitabhishek]

Wait, what's quite unlike the iPhone?

Installation of apps outside app. store.

[pwnst*r]

But you said you had to root it to be able to do that. And what's the references of tethering and taking screenshots?

[aysiu]

But you said you had to root it to be able to do that. And what's the references of tethering and taking screenshots?
No, you don't.

It's a setting in Applications to install from unknown sources. No rooting necessary.

[pwnst*r]

No, you don't.

It's a setting in Applications to install from unknown sources. No rooting necessary.

K, he needs to be more clear in his posts. I still don't know what he's talking about taking screenshots and tethering. The former you can do on an iPhone by default, the latter, jailbroken.

[Sunflower1970]

Tethering can be done by an app called pdanet, at leas that's what I was told by some guys at T-Mobile who had used it on their Heros.

Would love to do screenshots. I've read someone has already rooted this phone...but I'll wait a bit on that before I attempt it. I'm too chicken right now.

[aysiu]

K, he needs to be more clear in his posts. I still don't know what he's talking about taking screenshots and tethering. The former you can do on an iPhone by default, the latter, jailbroken.
Yeah, the language is a bit unclear.

I'll translate.
Rooting does allow you install apps. to tether or to take screenshots. However in most cases you have to only do this from settings menu... 1. There are some apps that require rooting (the Android equivalent of Jailbreaking) in order to fully function. For example, tethering (wired or wireless) apps usually require root access.

There is one free tethering app that requires configuring OpenVPN and also does not support https://

2. Totally separate thought: to install apps from outside of the Android Market (the equivalent of the iTunes App Store), you do not have to root your phone. The standard phone settings allow you to install (after confirmation) apps from unknown sources.

3. Yet another random aside: you can take screenshots without root. There are some paid-for screenshot apps in the Android Market. You can also download the Android SDK and take a screenshot from your computer. More details here:
https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AndroidScreenshots

[pwnst*r]

Thanks - not sure why he commented on taking screenshots when you can do that out of the box on an iPhone.

[aysiu]

Thanks - not sure why he commented on taking screenshots when you can do that out of the box on an iPhone.
I assumed it was two separate remarks squished into one confusing remark.

What you can't do on the iPhone without jailbreaking it is install apps outside the iTunes App Store.

With Android, you can install whatever apps you want without rooting it.

[Sunflower1970]

aysiu:

Where does one find these apps which are not in the market...and then how would one go about installing them?

[pwnst*r]

I assumed it was two separate remarks squished into one confusing remark.

What you can't do on the iPhone without jailbreaking it is install apps outside the iTunes App Store.

With Android, you can install whatever apps you want without rooting it.

Yep, that I understand, but it's a 10 to 15 minute process to jailbreak, so not a deal breaker, really.

[madnessjack]

Yep, that I understand, but it's a 10 to 15 minute process to jailbreak, so not a deal breaker, really.
If I had an expensive phone I wouldn't wanna hack it though. If Google lets us do this by default then this has to be a big win over the iPhone.

[steev182]

I did not say that you need 3G to check your gmail account. I meant you need Google account to activate the phone. And before activating its just a piece of plastic so 'no WIFI'.

You're wrong.

So very wrong.

[pwnst*r]

If I had an expensive phone I wouldn't wanna hack it though. If Google lets us do this by default then this has to be a big win over the iPhone.

How is Google "letting" you as opposed to jailbreaking?

[NoaHall]

If I had an expensive phone I wouldn't wanna hack it though. If Google lets us do this by default then this has to be a big win over the iPhone.

You know, they run different operating systems. Nexus One isn't the same as a jailbreaked iPhone.

[steev182]

How is Google "letting" you as opposed to jailbreaking?

The jailbreak is something that could potentially break your phone during the process.

Allowing unknown sources means you can use software that developers may be developing in beta, but they don't want easily downloaded from the android market. It means that, yes, the apps you do install can potentially be unstable but it also means that you can install them from their websites or as attachments in emails.

[pwnst*r]

The jailbreak is something that could potentially break your phone during the process.



not that I've heard. you can only POSSIBLY brick it by unlocking which is not the same as breaking chroot (jailbreak)

also, according to THE root instructions, there's risks involved by rooting also:

http://android.modaco.com/content/google-nexus-one-nexusone-modaco-com/298782/30-12-1-1-superboot-rooting-the-nexus-one/

[steev182]

not that I've heard. you can only POSSIBLY brick it by unlocking which is not the same as breaking chroot (jailbreak)

also, according to THE root instructions, there's risks involved by rooting also:

http://android.modaco.com/content/google-nexus-one-nexusone-modaco-com/298782/30-12-1-1-superboot-rooting-the-nexus-one/

Indeed.

But allowing installation from unknown sources doesn't require rooting.

[pwnst*r]

Indeed.

But allowing installation from unknown sources doesn't require rooting.

My question "How is google letting you.." was in reference to how are they letting you root it, not how are they letting you download apps.

[steev182]

Oh, well, rooting and allowing installation from unknown sources are 2 different things.

But yes, rooting isn't strictly 'allowed' by google, although for most Android devices it is something you can do through the Android SDK and associated tools release by google.

[aysiu]

aysiu:

Where does one find these apps which are not in the market...and then how would one go about installing them? A lot of them are hosted on the Google website. For example, android-wifi-tether:
http://code.google.com/p/android-wifi-tether/

You just download them to a folder on your SD card and use a file browser (I prefer Astro, which is free on the Android Market) to click on the file. That's it (assuming you've checked the option to allow installation from unknown sources).


How is Google "letting" you as opposed to jailbreaking? The difference is that Apple keeps fighting with jailbreakers to make it harder for jailbreakers to hack the iPhone. Then they have to hack it again. It's a constant arms race back and forth. Apple does not want you jailbreaking the iPhone.

Google will not sell a rooted phone, but I have not seen any kind of action on their part indicating they mind people rooting Android phones. In fact, as you can see from the link above, Google itself hosts applications for Android that require rooting.

I doubt Apple hosts any apps that got rejected from the iTunes App Store.

[pwnst*r]

Google will not sell a rooted phone, but I have not seen any kind of action on their part indicating they mind people rooting Android phones.



Maybe, maybe not yet. It'd be great if that kept up though, I'm just not holding my breath. Thanks for the link, that's interesting.

[aysiu]

Maybe, maybe not yet. It'd be great if that kept up though, I'm just not holding my breath. Thanks for the link, that's interesting.
One can know only the present and the past.

Anyone can speculate on what might happen in the future, but I don't see the point in imagining Google and Apple will each do an about-face, with Google saying "We will actively fight people who root Android" and Apple saying "Jailbreak away!"

[LeifAndersen]

Hmm...it looks like the phone doesn't have 802.11N

http://www.engadget.com/2010/01/08/google-nexus-one-not-supporting-802-11n-for-the-time-being/1#c24542364

[amitabhishek]

K, he needs to be more clear in his posts. I still don't know what he's talking about taking screenshots and tethering. The former you can do on an iPhone by default, the latter, jailbroken.


Thanks - not sure why he commented on taking screenshots when you can do that out of the box on an iPhone.

I thought I was pretty clear in my post. But since you are looking at Android phone through an iPhone lens you got confused. Android as a platform doesn't impose any restriction on software sources and you can install application from any store. For e.g. Android market (obviously), andappstore (http://andappstore.com/AndroidApplications/apps/!index), Mobentoo marketplace (http://slideme.org/application/slideme-application-manager), Google code page (openintents) (http://code.google.com/p/openintents/) and a few more including a couple of porn stores.

However some of the apps. require root access one of them is a screenshot taking application. I can take screenshot because mine is a rooted device.

http://img27.imageshack.us/img27/9054/devicek.png

Unrooted devices however need to download Android SDK to take screenshots. Tethering is another app. that needs root access. I boot my phone using CyanogenMod ROM (not HTC's); this guy has ROM updater

http://img109.imageshack.us/img109/8505/devicev.png

software in Android market which require root access. Installation of themes sometimes need root access. So few apps. need root access most of them don't.


aysiu:

Where does one find these apps which are not in the market...and then how would one go about installing them?

Either you can download the client through which you can get software or you can point your phone browser to the app. and download it on your SD card and then install (just like you would do on your PC).

[legolas_w]

Hi,

Can anyone with a Nexus one confirm whether it has optical or digital zoom?
So far, I read that it come with optical zoom, now in the specification page it says that the phone come with digital zoom.

thanks.

[pwnst*r]

Digital

http://www.google.com/phone/static/en_US-nexusone_tech_specs.html

[hobo14]

For any Australians who don't want to wait, you can use a purchasing or forwarding company if you don't have friends or relatives in the USA.

I'm using PriceUSA (http://www.priceusa.com.au/), an Australian company that specifically buys items from the US.

I've only just started the process, so can't give much feedback on them, but I've heard good things on Whirlpool.

[BuffaloX]

What I mentioned previously has now been confirmed.

http://www.businessweek.com/technology/content/jan2010/tc2010018_508266.htm

Smartphones are overpriced.
You pay more than 500$ for less than 200$ worth of hardware.

OK they are cool, and development needs to be covered too.
But I'll wait till prices come down a lot.

[pwnst*r]

That just means you get the "hand me downs"

[CJ Master]

Nothing wrong with hand me downs.

>.>
<.<

[the yawner]

Let it go, you guys. You're not adding anything useful on the topic.

On topic:
After reading a couple of reviews, I get the impression that the trackball is a useless addition to this neat gadget. Thoughts?

[pwnst*r]

Other than the trackball being also a multi-color led notification light? Yes, pretty much useless it seems.

[TironN]

For any Australians who don't want to wait, you can use a purchasing or forwarding company if you don't have friends or relatives in the USA.

I'm using PriceUSA (http://www.priceusa.com.au/), an Australian company that specifically buys items from the US.

I've only just started the process, so can't give much feedback on them, but I've heard good things on Whirlpool.

Hey. I read here: http://www.theaustralian.com.au/business/industry-sectors/googles-nexus-one-smartphone-bypasses-australia/story-e6frg9hx-1225816762196

that:


"The phone will work with nearly all GSM SIM cards worldwide (but) there are some carriers like AT&T in the US and Telstra Next G who have different 3G frequencies, so users can only access 2G or Edge networks with the current Nexus One," she said.

So if I do get an import can I expect crap speeds and if so will I ever get 3G??

[bapoumba]

Moved away several OT posts.

[geoken]

What I mentioned previously has now been confirmed.

http://www.businessweek.com/technology/content/jan2010/tc2010018_508266.htm

Smartphones are overpriced.
You pay more than 500$ for less than 200$ worth of hardware.

OK they are cool, and development needs to be covered too.
But I'll wait till prices come down a lot.

I think anyone who works in manufacturing would disagree with your comment. Bringing $200 worth of hardware to market for $530 is in line with what would be expected. It's not just development costs, it's also the manufacturing costs and other logistical costs. On top of that there are various licensing costs (ie. the types of licensing costs Nokia is currently suing Apple for).

[pwnst*r]

What he meant was - they're overpriced for him.

[aysiu]

After reading a couple of reviews, I get the impression that the trackball is a useless addition to this neat gadget. Thoughts? I don't have a Nexus One, but I do have an Android phone (MyTouch 3G), and I almost never use the trackball (with the rare exception of booting into recovery mode to install updates to the rooted ROM I use).

[geoken]

Let it go, you guys. You're not adding anything useful on the topic.

On topic:
After reading a couple of reviews, I get the impression that the trackball is a useless addition to this neat gadget. Thoughts?

Things I use the trackball for on my HTC Magic;

- Placing the cursor in text fields. You can still click a point in a text field to place the cursor but you typically wont get the precision needed and will commonly be off by a character or 2. The iPhone deals with this using that magnifying glass thing but I prefer the trackball.

- Highlighting links. With the iPhone there was no way that I knew of to 'hover' over a link. This means that a lot of pages which had sub-menus that were only visible when you hovered over another element weren't usable. With the trackball, you can move the selector to the parent menu and the page will respond exactly how it would if you were using a normal computer and placed your mouse cursor over that element.

- Clicking small links without zooming the page. I'll use this forum as an example. To visit a threads most recent post you need to click that small arrow icon beside the user name. On a small screen that target is very difficult to accurately touch without zooming. With a trackball you can easily select tiny links without issue.

- Some games are easier with the trackball. For example, I find it a lot easier to play chess. I move to the wrong square less frequently when I use the trackball to make my moves.

[pwnst*r]

Those are some very good points. Thanks!

[hobo14]

Hey. I read here: http://www.theaustralian.com.au/business/industry-sectors/googles-nexus-one-smartphone-bypasses-australia/story-e6frg9hx-1225816762196

that:

So if I do get an import can I expect crap speeds and if so will I ever get 3G??

You can check the specs; it works on all 4 GSM bands and 900/1700/2100 Mhz 3G, it doesn't do 850 Mhz. In Australia that translates to working fine on all networks from all carriers (including "Telstra 3G" - 2100 Mhz) except "Telstra Next-G", which is 850 Mhz.

[LeifAndersen]

So, I've heard roomers that the Google's support for this phone is non-existent at best, can anyone confirm this? (Besides the anecdotal proof of Google's horrid support).

[the yawner]

Thanks for the input geoken :)

I guess it's a simple solution to the limitations of the touchscreen interface.

On a related note, someone conducted a simple touchscreen test (http://labs.moto.com/diy-touchscreen-analysis/) comparing the Nexus One with other similar phones. (via gizmodo (http://gizmodo.com/5432554/the-nexus-one-versus-the-iphone))

[legolas_w]

Hi,

Can someone post some high resolution photos from Nexus one sleeve included in the package?

How good is the sleeve and whether it protects the phone in case it hit the desk or when it is in our jeans pocket?


Thanks

[ukripper]

Is this true ?

http://www.v3.co.uk/v3/news/2255922/google-receives-raft-complaints


"Nexus One users complain of poor 3G connection"

[pwnst*r]

Yes.

[aysiu]

Yes. More details here:
http://forums.t-mobile.com/t5/Nexus-One/UPDATED-No-3G-or-Fluctuating-between-3G-amp-Edge/td-p/291918;jsessionid=66C0A8DC47D967F35A96F52E32F9D676

[Sunflower1970]

I can confirm some wonky 3G problems. Bars are all over the place. In my home, at the office, etc. I was testing the 3G all over my house over the weekend after reading about the problems, and the one place where the signal stays strong and consistent, never switches to EDGE, is my upstairs bathroom. Maybe it's telling me something..?

But, strangely, the 3G switching seemed to get better last night, and this morning as well.

One person mentioned on the Nexus One support forum that when he had Pandora playing he was able to keep 3G strong. I can also confirm this. I did the same thing and when Pandora is playing the 3G is strong.

Rumor has it a patch will be out to fix this sometime this week....

Other thoughts..Trackball.

Not ever having a smartphoen before, I wasn't sure what to think...will I ever use this little 'pearl'?

I have found it highly useful. I use for clicking on links when my fingers are just too big to navigate around it, I use it on some of my games--frozen bubble for one--it's much easier to navigate than keep punching the screen. So I'm glad the N1 included it.

Now I need accessories for it! I need a skin for it, a car charger...screen protector--one that fits better than the one I had on hand for it. I'm paranoid about scratching it up.

I did drop it on Sunday. On a tile floor. So, I can now confirm it's a sturdy little bugger. Didn't break or scratch *whew*

But now I'm paranoid about dropping it, again. :(

The sleeve.
The sleeve is cute. Has a little android on it. It's cushy so if the Nexus One falls it shouldn't be a problem (Just don't drop it from something like 10 feet. I'm sure nothing will protect it then...lol) It's not a hard case, but just material--but cushioned.

[hobo14]

Yes. More details here:
http://forums.t-mobile.com/t5/Nexus-One/UPDATED-No-3G-or-Fluctuating-between-3G-amp-Edge/td-p/291918;jsessionid=66C0A8DC47D967F35A96F52E32F9D676

Some teething trouble there?

Are there any non-US users who can tell us about their N1/3G experience?
Wondering whether it's the handset or the carrier+handset combo causing the problem...

[Johnsie]

there's a simple solution to the 3g problem. It's just a matter of changing a few settings, not the smoking gun some people want it to be.

Does anyone know of any stores that are selling the GPhone? I'm gonna be in the US in Friday and would like to pick one up, but I doubt the airports would have them.

[LeifAndersen]

there's a simple solution to the 3g problem. It's just a matter of changing a few settings, not the smoking gun some people want it to be.

Does anyone know of any stores that are selling the GPhone? I'm gonna be in the US in Friday and would like to pick one up, but I doubt the airports would have them.

I don't think so, just like their support, they really didn't think that through all the way.

[Sunflower1970]

there's a simple solution to the 3g problem. It's just a matter of changing a few settings, not the smoking gun some people want it to be.

Yes the settings have been changed, but if you go into an area that has no 3g then you won't get EDGE. You'd have to go back in and switch the settings. Not that big of a deal, in the big scheme of things, but some people may feel it's just too much darned work.


Does anyone know of any stores that are selling the GPhone? I'm gonna be in the US in Friday and would like to pick one up, but I doubt the airports would have them.

As far as I've been reading you can only get the phone through Google. No other outlet will carry it.

Oh, you can get it from Amazon for $100 over the cost, and Ebay's been selling them too for more than the $530.

If you're going to be at a friend's house for a bit, you could buy the phone, use their address and have it Fed Ex'd overnight. Shipping is free.

[NCLI]

Does anyone know where one can buy official accessories for this thing.

[Sunflower1970]

Does anyone know where one can buy official accessories for this thing.

If ya ever find out, I'd love to know :D

I bought a skin through Ebay. Should be here any day now, and I have a screen protector, but I had to cut it myself so it doesn't fit correctly. I need to redo it. I just hope the skin will fit...

I need to find a car charger, and possibly a car mount for it, too.

ETA
I might have found something..they're not official but looks like there are some accessories here...?

http://store.phandroid.com/search.htm?search_terms=nexus%20one

[ukripper]

Guys need little advice, HTC hero is getting cheaper on contracts. I wonder if it is worth getting it? As Android 2.x will be updated on Hero soon, do you think is it worth getting? I cant wait too long for Droid/Nexus one (In uk we are not getting them on contract yet) so i am considering my options.

[amitabhishek]

Guys need little advice, HTC hero is getting cheaper on contracts. I wonder if it is worth getting it? As Android 2.x will be updated on Hero soon, do you think is it worth getting? I cant wait too long for Droid/Nexus one (In uk we are not getting them on contract yet) so i am considering my options.

The thing about N1 is its beefy hardware. HTC Hero is underpowered for the sense UI it packs. But then you are getting it on contract too. So essentially it becomes choice between hardware vs. price vs. patience. Take your pick!

If would have been you I would have waited for N1 'cause you never know the N1 may support many subsequent version on Androids.

[Georgia boy]

http://www.cnn.com/2010/TECH/01/14/wired.google.nexus.one.complaints/index.html?hpt=T2

I was reading on CNN about some problems and expierences people were having. Don't know if anyone read this or heard about yet or not. Thought I would post just to let you know.

Tom

[HappinessNow]

http://www.cnn.com/2010/TECH/01/14/wired.google.nexus.one.complaints/index.html?hpt=T2

I was reading on CNN about some problems and experiences people were having. Don't know if anyone read this or heard about yet or not. Thought I would post just to let you know.

TomSounds like the problems are primarily from T-mobile service. This reinforces my decision NOT to buy cellular service from T-Mobile.

This also sounds like the big cellular companies are attacking Google after their lawsuit about Google Voice, it's like the cellular companies are telling Google "If you play with the big boys, your going to get hurt".

Google's only option is to provide their own cellular service, they can NOT rely on T-Mobile, ATT, Verizon or Sprint to follow through with good service, it is just a recipe for disaster!

They could just buy ATT, and they would be all good after the restructuring.

EDIT: or even better they could buy SouthernLINC Wireless, which is an award winning micro-cellular company and expand them nationally. reference:
http://www.southernlinc.com/index.asp