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jrc27
November 21st, 2009, 12:22 AM
My desktop computer originally had Windows XP installed, and then I added Ubuntu, and OpenSuSE as well. The tri-boot system worked fine for months, until, in a past occurrence similar to my current problem, Windows stopped booting, but the other 2 OSs worked and I could mount my Windows C drive on Ubuntu. Specifically, when I chose Windows XP at the GRUB screen, it would load and then give me the screen that says Windows has encountered an error and give different boot options like start normally, safe mode, last good configuration (none of which worked, it would just restart the computer and go back to the GRUB screen). Now with this occurrence, I just randomly tried booting Windows Safe Mode again one day and it worked that time and I did a System Restore and all was well.

Now, the same thing has happened and I can't figure out how to solve it, mostly because I have no idea what fixed it last time other than "magic". What's different this time is that I can't load Windows Recovery or the HP System Recovery like I was last (although I didn't do anything in them last time). I've read tons of threads and none seem to match my situation of my tri-boot system once working for a while and how Windows behaves. If you need me to post the results of any commands or files or anything, let me know, just PLEASE help me fix this quickly! Thanks!

Sin@Sin-Sacrifice
November 21st, 2009, 12:39 AM
If you have an install disk for XP you can use it to restore the system. I had to do this QUITE often when I was running Vista on an HP box. The best fix, of course, is just reformat and reinstall or reformat to ext3 and use as a backup but for gaming and some other uses that isn't an option. I forget how I went about using the install disk to restore but I actually found it when I wanted to switch a hard drive from an HP Pavillion 750n to an HP m8000n without reinstall so I know the info is out there in the interwebs. May I advise an upgrade to Windows 7 as well... it works well for me.

jrc27
November 21st, 2009, 12:57 AM
I don't have a Windows install cd unfortunately. The main thing is that I'd like a fix that doesn't require that I lose my files on the Windows drive, because then I'd have to backup everything and then rebuild Windows to the way I had it. What exactly do you mean by reformat to ext3, would that fit with what I want? And do you know if a Windows upgrade to Windows 7 would be able to just replace the XP partition and leave the Linux ones alone, and if it would delete my Windows files (i'm guessing it would)?

Eric.brackenbury
November 21st, 2009, 02:40 AM
Go here:
http://www.supergrubdisk.org/

and download the super grub MBR restore it works and I keep a CD with it on just in case I need it again.

Good luck
Eric B

Eric.brackenbury
November 21st, 2009, 02:42 AM
Oh yes I forgot you need to use a friends computer if you cannot get your Linux distro to work either

Eric B

jrc27
November 22nd, 2009, 03:30 AM
So I burned a SuperGrub CD and tried it out but it only recognized the linux partitions at first, and then I selected Auto Magic or something like that and it only found my Windows Recovery partition, which I still cannot boot.

Any other ideas? Remember, I can select Windows XP on the regular GRUB boot screen and it'll try to boot up, but then it'll give me the choices to boot normally, or in safe mode, etc., none of which work, they just restart the computer and bring me back to GRUB.

presence1960
November 22nd, 2009, 04:22 AM
Let's get a better look at your setup & boot process. Boot the Ubuntu Live CD/USB. Choose "try ubuntu without any changes", when the desktop loads come back here and use the link in my signature to download the Boot Info Script 0.35 to the desktop. Once on desktop open a terminal and run this command
sudo bash ~/Desktop/boot_info_script*.sh This will create a RESULTS.txt file on the desktop. Paste the entire contents of that file back here. Once pasted highlight all text and click the # sign on the toolbar to place code tags around the text.

jrc27
November 22nd, 2009, 05:43 PM
============================= Boot Info Summary: ==============================

=> Acer 3 is installed in the MBR of /dev/sda

sda1: __________________________________________________ _______________________

File system: vfat
Boot sector type: Grub
Boot sector info: Grub0.97 is installed in the boot sector of sda1 and
looks at sector 192393130 of the same hard drive for
the stage2 file. A stage2 file is at this location on
/dev/sda. Stage2 looks on partition #13 for
/boot/grub/menu.lst. No errors found in the Boot
Parameter Block.
Operating System:
Boot files/dirs: /boot.ini /BOOT.INI /ntldr /NTLDR /NTDETECT.COM
/ntdetect.com

sda2: __________________________________________________ _______________________

File system: ntfs
Boot sector type: Windows XP
Boot sector info: No errors found in the Boot Parameter Block.
Operating System: Windows XP
Boot files/dirs: /boot.ini /ntldr /NTDETECT.COM

sda3: __________________________________________________ _______________________

File system: Extended Partition
Boot sector type: Grub
Boot sector info: Grub0.97 is installed in the boot sector of sda3 and
looks at sector 192393130 of the same hard drive for
the stage2 file. A stage2 file is at this location on
/dev/sda. Stage2 looks on partition #13 for
/boot/grub/menu.lst.

sda5: __________________________________________________ _______________________

File system: ext3
Boot sector type: -
Boot sector info:
Operating System: Ubuntu 8.04.1
Boot files/dirs: /etc/fstab

sda6: __________________________________________________ _______________________

File system: swap
Boot sector type: -
Boot sector info:

sda7: __________________________________________________ _______________________

File system: ext3
Boot sector type: -
Boot sector info:
Operating System: Ubuntu 8.04.1
Boot files/dirs: /etc/fstab

sda8: __________________________________________________ _______________________

File system: swap
Boot sector type: -
Boot sector info:

sda9: __________________________________________________ _______________________

File system: ext3
Boot sector type: -
Boot sector info:
Operating System: Ubuntu 8.04.1
Boot files/dirs: /etc/fstab

sda10: __________________________________________________ _______________________

File system: swap
Boot sector type: -
Boot sector info:

sda11: __________________________________________________ _______________________

File system: ext3
Boot sector type: -
Boot sector info:
Operating System: Ubuntu 8.04.3 LTS
Boot files/dirs: /boot/grub/menu.lst /etc/fstab

sda12: __________________________________________________ _______________________

File system: swap
Boot sector type: -
Boot sector info:

sda13: __________________________________________________ _______________________

File system: ext3
Boot sector type: -
Boot sector info:
Operating System: Welcome to openSUSE 11.1 -
Kernel ().
Boot files/dirs: /boot/grub/menu.lst /etc/fstab

sda4: __________________________________________________ _______________________

File system: ext3
Boot sector type: -
Boot sector info:
Operating System:
Boot files/dirs:

=========================== Drive/Partition Info: =============================

Drive: sda ___________________ __________________________________________________ ___

Disk /dev/sda: 160.0 GB, 160041885696 bytes
255 heads, 63 sectors/track, 19457 cylinders, total 312581808 sectors
Units = sectors of 1 * 512 = 512 bytes
Disk identifier: 0x1549f232

Partition Boot Start End Size Id System

/dev/sda1 63 15,755,039 15,754,977 c W95 FAT32 (LBA)
/dev/sda2 15,755,040 142,700,352 126,945,313 7 HPFS/NTFS
/dev/sda3 * 185,245,515 312,576,704 127,331,190 5 Extended
/dev/sda5 185,245,578 190,386,314 5,140,737 83 Linux
/dev/sda6 307,291,383 312,576,704 5,285,322 82 Linux swap / Solaris
/dev/sda7 302,680,728 306,953,954 4,273,227 83 Linux
/dev/sda8 306,954,018 307,291,319 337,302 82 Linux swap / Solaris
/dev/sda9 298,070,073 302,343,299 4,273,227 83 Linux
/dev/sda10 302,343,363 302,680,664 337,302 82 Linux swap / Solaris
/dev/sda11 205,808,778 294,198,344 88,389,567 83 Linux
/dev/sda12 294,198,408 298,070,009 3,871,602 82 Linux swap / Solaris
/dev/sda13 190,386,378 205,808,714 15,422,337 83 Linux
/dev/sda4 142,705,395 185,245,514 42,540,120 83 Linux


blkid -c /dev/null: __________________________________________________ __________

/dev/sda1: LABEL="HP_RECOVERY" UUID="77AF-AA80" TYPE="vfat"
/dev/sda2: UUID="1A282FFC282FD593" LABEL="HP_PAVILION" TYPE="ntfs"
/dev/sda4: UUID="99af7e04-f958-4439-a093-9d37df40c115" SEC_TYPE="ext2" TYPE="ext3"
/dev/sda5: UUID="34592790-fc9d-4c33-accd-5d957c6e68e8" SEC_TYPE="ext2" TYPE="ext3"
/dev/sda6: UUID="597e4d88-266b-4982-9e27-f8013d23248e" TYPE="swap"
/dev/sda7: UUID="cb2d3e96-8170-4126-982a-c2a4c58ea1d1" SEC_TYPE="ext2" TYPE="ext3"
/dev/sda8: UUID="061ca8dd-23d6-4afc-9836-30254ccbea91" TYPE="swap"
/dev/sda9: UUID="a408974c-5a54-4752-87d6-392578fd022e" SEC_TYPE="ext2" TYPE="ext3"
/dev/sda10: UUID="e94941d3-02fd-4f22-b7c0-f4f0f6ecf82d" TYPE="swap"
/dev/sda11: UUID="d910ecfc-8a1b-4bbc-97d9-49c47f0de811" SEC_TYPE="ext2" TYPE="ext3"
/dev/sda12: UUID="12f4b80e-e97b-44a7-9ab8-2ad1a1a3a9e8" TYPE="swap"
/dev/sda13: UUID="d632a9c5-a4a2-4dff-b914-31efd2181dbf" SEC_TYPE="ext2" TYPE="ext3"
/dev/loop0: TYPE="squashfs"

=============================== "mount" output: ===============================

proc on /proc type proc (rw)
sysfs on /sys type sysfs (rw)
tmpfs on /lib/modules/2.6.24-19-generic/volatile type tmpfs (rw,mode=0755)
tmpfs on /lib/modules/2.6.24-19-generic/volatile type tmpfs (rw,mode=0755)
varrun on /var/run type tmpfs (rw,noexec,nosuid,nodev,mode=0755)
varlock on /var/lock type tmpfs (rw,noexec,nosuid,nodev,mode=1777)
udev on /dev type tmpfs (rw,mode=0755)
devshm on /dev/shm type tmpfs (rw)
devpts on /dev/pts type devpts (rw,gid=5,mode=620)
tmpfs on /tmp type tmpfs (rw,nosuid,nodev)
gvfs-fuse-daemon on /home/ubuntu/.gvfs type fuse.gvfs-fuse-daemon (rw,nosuid,nodev,user=ubuntu)


================================ sda1/boot.ini: ================================

[boot loader]

timeout=0

default=C:\CMDCONS\BOOTSECT.DAT

[operating systems]

multi(0)disk(0)rdisk(0)partition(1)\WINDOWS="Microsoft Windows XP Professional" /fastdetect

C:\CMDCONS\BOOTSECT.DAT="Microsoft Windows Recovery Console" /cmdcons


================================ sda1/BOOT.INI: ================================

[boot loader]

timeout=0

default=C:\CMDCONS\BOOTSECT.DAT

[operating systems]

multi(0)disk(0)rdisk(0)partition(1)\WINDOWS="Microsoft Windows XP Professional" /fastdetect

C:\CMDCONS\BOOTSECT.DAT="Microsoft Windows Recovery Console" /cmdcons


================================ sda2/boot.ini: ================================

[boot loader]

timeout=3

default=multi(0)disk(0)rdisk(0)partition(2)\WINDOW S

[operating systems]

multi(0)disk(0)rdisk(0)partition(2)\WINDOWS="Microsoft Windows XP Home Edition" /noexecute=optin /fastdetect

C:\CMDCONS\BOOTSECT.DAT="Microsoft Windows Recovery Console" /cmdcons


=============================== sda5/etc/fstab: ===============================

# /etc/fstab: static file system information.
#
# <file system> <mount point> <type> <options> <dump> <pass>
proc /proc proc defaults 0 0
# /dev/sda5
UUID=34592790-fc9d-4c33-accd-5d957c6e68e8 / ext3 relatime,errors=remount-ro 0 1
# /dev/sda6
UUID=597e4d88-266b-4982-9e27-f8013d23248e none swap sw 0 0
/dev/scd0 /media/cdrom0 udf,iso9660 user,noauto,exec,utf8 0 0
/dev/scd1 /media/cdrom1 udf,iso9660 user,noauto,exec,utf8 0 0

=================== sda5: Location of files loaded by Grub: ===================


95.0GB: boot/vmlinuz-2.6.24-19-generic
95.0GB: vmlinuz

=============================== sda7/etc/fstab: ===============================

# /etc/fstab: static file system information.
#
# <file system> <mount point> <type> <options> <dump> <pass>
proc /proc proc defaults 0 0
# /dev/sda7
UUID=cb2d3e96-8170-4126-982a-c2a4c58ea1d1 / ext3 relatime,errors=remount-ro 0 1
# /dev/sda8
UUID=061ca8dd-23d6-4afc-9836-30254ccbea91 none swap sw 0 0
/dev/scd1 /media/cdrom0 udf,iso9660 user,noauto,exec,utf8 0 0
/dev/scd0 /media/cdrom1 udf,iso9660 user,noauto,exec,utf8 0 0

=================== sda7: Location of files loaded by Grub: ===================


155.1GB: boot/vmlinuz-2.6.24-19-generic
155.1GB: vmlinuz

=============================== sda9/etc/fstab: ===============================

# /etc/fstab: static file system information.
#
# <file system> <mount point> <type> <options> <dump> <pass>
proc /proc proc defaults 0 0
# /dev/sda9
UUID=a408974c-5a54-4752-87d6-392578fd022e / ext3 relatime,errors=remount-ro 0 1
# /dev/sda10
UUID=e94941d3-02fd-4f22-b7c0-f4f0f6ecf82d none swap sw 0 0
/dev/scd1 /media/cdrom0 udf,iso9660 user,noauto,exec,utf8 0 0
/dev/scd0 /media/cdrom1 udf,iso9660 user,noauto,exec,utf8 0 0

=================== sda9: Location of files loaded by Grub: ===================


154.6GB: boot/vmlinuz-2.6.24-19-generic
154.6GB: vmlinuz

========================== sda11/boot/grub/menu.lst: ==========================

default 0
timeout 10

title Ubuntu 8.04.1, kernel 2.6.24-23-generic
root (hd0,10)
kernel /boot/vmlinuz-2.6.24-23-generic root=UUID=d910ecfc-8a1b-4bbc-97d9-49c47f0de811 ro quiet splash
initrd /boot/initrd.img-2.6.24-23-generic
quiet

title Microsoft Windows XP Home Edition
root (hd0,1)
chainloader +1
savedefault
makeactive

title Other operating systems:
root

title Ubuntu 8.04.1, kernel 2.6.24-23-generic (recovery mode)
root (hd0,10)
kernel /boot/vmlinuz-2.6.24-23-generic root=UUID=d910ecfc-8a1b-4bbc-97d9-49c47f0de811 ro single
initrd /boot/initrd.img-2.6.24-23-generic

title Ubuntu 8.04.1, kernel 2.6.24-22-generic
root (hd0,10)
kernel /boot/vmlinuz-2.6.24-22-generic root=UUID=d910ecfc-8a1b-4bbc-97d9-49c47f0de811 ro quiet splash
initrd /boot/initrd.img-2.6.24-22-generic
quiet

title Ubuntu 8.04.1, kernel 2.6.24-22-generic (recovery mode)
root (hd0,10)
kernel /boot/vmlinuz-2.6.24-22-generic root=UUID=d910ecfc-8a1b-4bbc-97d9-49c47f0de811 ro single
initrd /boot/initrd.img-2.6.24-22-generic

title Ubuntu 8.04.1, kernel 2.6.24-19-generic
root (hd0,10)
kernel /boot/vmlinuz-2.6.24-19-generic root=UUID=d910ecfc-8a1b-4bbc-97d9-49c47f0de811 ro quiet splash
initrd /boot/initrd.img-2.6.24-19-generic
quiet

title Ubuntu 8.04.1, kernel 2.6.24-19-generic (recovery mode)
root (hd0,10)
kernel /boot/vmlinuz-2.6.24-19-generic root=UUID=d910ecfc-8a1b-4bbc-97d9-49c47f0de811 ro single
initrd /boot/initrd.img-2.6.24-19-generic

title Ubuntu 8.04.1, memtest86+
root (hd0,10)
kernel /boot/memtest86+.bin
quiet

title Windows NT/2000/XP
root (hd0,0)
chainloader +1
savedefault
makeactive

title Ubuntu 8.04.1 (8.04) (on /dev/sda5)
root (hd0,4)
kernel /boot/vmlinuz-2.6.24-19-generic root=/dev/sda5
savedefault

title Ubuntu 8.04.1 (8.04) (on /dev/sda7)
root (hd0,6)
kernel /boot/vmlinuz-2.6.24-19-generic root=/dev/sda7
savedefault

title Ubuntu 8.04.1 (8.04) (on /dev/sda9)
root (hd0,8)
kernel /boot/vmlinuz-2.6.24-19-generic root=/dev/sda9
savedefault
### BEGIN AUTOMAGIC KERNELS LIST
## lines between the AUTOMAGIC KERNELS LIST markers will be modified
## by the debian update-grub script except for the default options below

## DO NOT UNCOMMENT THEM, Just edit them to your needs

## ## Start Default Options ##
## default kernel options
## default kernel options for automagic boot options
## If you want special options for specific kernels use kopt_x_y_z
## where x.y.z is kernel version. Minor versions can be omitted.
## e.g. kopt=root=/dev/hda1 ro
## kopt_2_6_8=root=/dev/hdc1 ro
## kopt_2_6_8_2_686=root=/dev/hdc2 ro
# kopt=root=UUID=d910ecfc-8a1b-4bbc-97d9-49c47f0de811 ro

## Setup crashdump menu entries
## e.g. crashdump=1
# crashdump=0

## default grub root device
## e.g. groot=(hd0,0)
# groot=(hd0,10)

## should update-grub create alternative automagic boot options
## e.g. alternative=true
## alternative=false
# alternative=true

## should update-grub lock alternative automagic boot options
## e.g. lockalternative=true
## lockalternative=false
# lockalternative=false

## additional options to use with the default boot option, but not with the
## alternatives
## e.g. defoptions=vga=791 resume=/dev/hda5
# defoptions=quiet splash

## should update-grub lock old automagic boot options
## e.g. lockold=false
## lockold=true
# lockold=false

## Xen hypervisor options to use with the default Xen boot option
# xenhopt=

## Xen Linux kernel options to use with the default Xen boot option
# xenkopt=console=tty0

## altoption boot targets option
## multiple altoptions lines are allowed
## e.g. altoptions=(extra menu suffix) extra boot options
## altoptions=(recovery) single
# altoptions=(recovery mode) single

## controls how many kernels should be put into the menu.lst
## only counts the first occurence of a kernel, not the
## alternative kernel options
## e.g. howmany=all
## howmany=7
# howmany=all

## should update-grub create memtest86 boot option
## e.g. memtest86=true
## memtest86=false
# memtest86=true

## should update-grub adjust the value of the default booted system
## can be true or false
# updatedefaultentry=false

## should update-grub add savedefault to the default options
## can be true or false
# savedefault=false


=============================== sda11/etc/fstab: ===============================

# /etc/fstab: static file system information.
#
# <file system> <mount point> <type> <options> <dump> <pass>
proc /proc proc defaults 0 0
# /dev/sda11
UUID=d910ecfc-8a1b-4bbc-97d9-49c47f0de811 / ext3 relatime,errors=remount-ro 0 1
# /dev/sda12
UUID=12f4b80e-e97b-44a7-9ab8-2ad1a1a3a9e8 none swap sw 0 0
/dev/scd1 /media/cdrom0 udf,iso9660 user,noauto,exec,utf8 0 0
/dev/scd0 /media/cdrom1 udf,iso9660 user,noauto,exec,utf8 0 0

=================== sda11: Location of files loaded by Grub: ===================


107.7GB: boot/grub/menu.lst
107.7GB: boot/grub/stage2
107.7GB: boot/initrd.img-2.6.24-19-generic
107.6GB: boot/initrd.img-2.6.24-19-generic.bak
107.7GB: boot/initrd.img-2.6.24-22-generic
107.7GB: boot/initrd.img-2.6.24-22-generic.bak
107.6GB: boot/initrd.img-2.6.24-23-generic
107.7GB: boot/initrd.img-2.6.24-23-generic.bak
107.7GB: boot/initrd.img-2.6.24-24-generic
107.7GB: boot/initrd.img-2.6.24-24-generic.bak
107.7GB: boot/vmlinuz-2.6.24-19-generic
107.7GB: boot/vmlinuz-2.6.24-22-generic
107.7GB: boot/vmlinuz-2.6.24-23-generic
107.7GB: boot/vmlinuz-2.6.24-24-generic
107.7GB: initrd.img
107.6GB: initrd.img.old
107.7GB: vmlinuz
107.7GB: vmlinuz.old

========================== sda13/boot/grub/menu.lst: ==========================

# Modified by YaST2. Last modification on Sat Nov 21 20:14:36 EST 2009
default 4
timeout 15
##YaST - generic_mbr
gfxmenu (hd0,12)/boot/message
##YaST - activate

###Don't change this comment - YaST2 identifier: Original name: linux###
title openSUSE 11.1 - 2.6.27.29-0.1
root (hd0,12)
kernel /boot/vmlinuz-2.6.27.29-0.1-default root=/dev/disk/by-id/ata-SAMSUNG_SP1614CR_S0DCJ10Y822352-part13 resume=/dev/sda6 splash=silent showopts vga=0x31a
initrd /boot/initrd-2.6.27.29-0.1-default

###Don't change this comment - YaST2 identifier: Original name: failsafe###
title Failsafe -- openSUSE 11.1 - 2.6.27.29-0.1
root (hd0,12)
kernel /boot/vmlinuz-2.6.27.29-0.1-default root=/dev/disk/by-id/ata-SAMSUNG_SP1614CR_S0DCJ10Y822352-part13 showopts ide=nodma apm=off noresume edd=off powersaved=off nohz=off highres=off processor.max_cstate=1 x11failsafe vga=0x31a
initrd /boot/initrd-2.6.27.29-0.1-default

###Don't change this comment - YaST2 identifier: Original name: Ubuntu 8.04.1, kernel 2.6.24-23-generic (/dev/sda11)###
title Ubuntu 8.04.1, kernel 2.6.24-23-generic (/dev/sda11)
root (hd0,10)
configfile /boot/grub/menu.lst

###Don't change this comment - YaST2 identifier: Original name: windows 1###
title Windows Recovery
rootnoverify (hd0,0)
chainloader +1

###Don't change this comment - YaST2 identifier: Original name: windows 2###
title Windows XP Home Edition
rootnoverify (hd0,1)
chainloader +1

=============================== sda13/etc/fstab: ===============================

/dev/disk/by-id/ata-SAMSUNG_SP1614CR_S0DCJ10Y822352-part6 swap swap defaults 0 0
/dev/disk/by-id/ata-SAMSUNG_SP1614CR_S0DCJ10Y822352-part8 swap swap defaults 0 0
/dev/disk/by-id/ata-SAMSUNG_SP1614CR_S0DCJ10Y822352-part10 swap swap defaults 0 0
/dev/disk/by-id/ata-SAMSUNG_SP1614CR_S0DCJ10Y822352-part12 swap swap defaults 0 0
/dev/disk/by-id/ata-SAMSUNG_SP1614CR_S0DCJ10Y822352-part13 / ext3 acl,user_xattr 1 1
/dev/disk/by-id/ata-SAMSUNG_SP1614CR_S0DCJ10Y822352-part4 /home ext3 acl,user_xattr 1 2
/dev/disk/by-id/ata-SAMSUNG_SP1614CR_S0DCJ10Y822352-part1 /windows/C vfat users,gid=users,umask=0002,utf8=true 0 0
/dev/disk/by-id/ata-SAMSUNG_SP1614CR_S0DCJ10Y822352-part2 /windows/D ntfs-3g users,gid=users,fmask=133,dmask=022,locale=en_US.U TF-8 0 0
proc /proc proc defaults 0 0
sysfs /sys sysfs noauto 0 0
debugfs /sys/kernel/debug debugfs noauto 0 0
devpts /dev/pts devpts mode=0620,gid=5 0 0

=================== sda13: Location of files loaded by Grub: ===================


98.6GB: boot/grub/menu.lst
98.5GB: boot/grub/stage2
98.5GB: boot/initrd
98.5GB: boot/initrd-2.6.27.29-0.1-default
98.6GB: boot/vmlinuz
98.6GB: boot/vmlinuz-2.6.27.29-0.1-default
=======Devices which don't seem to have a corresponding hard drive==============

sdb sdc sdd sde sdf

oldfred
November 22nd, 2009, 07:37 PM
Presence usually sees things I do not but to get you started thiinking out several things.

I was not familiar with the acer boot but found this:
Acer ships itís laptops with a custom MBR (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Master_boot_record) and an hidden recovery partition. The code in the MBR can intercept the <Alt><F10> key combination if pressed during the early stage of the boot, more or less when there is the first Acer splashscreen displayed from the BIOS. This key combination let boot the hidden partition and this brings up the restore utility. This stuff is what constitutes the Restore system to factory default of the Acer eRecovery Management (http://www.google.it/url?sa=t&source=web&ct=res&cd=1&url=ftp%3A%2F%2Fftp.support.acer-euro.com%2Fdesktop%2Fempowering_technology%2FUser% 2520Guides%25202.0%2520-%25202.4%2FAcer%2520eRecovery%2520Management%2520e nglish.pdf&ei=cEkgSuq7GaCRjAeN-9HEBg&usg=AFQjCNGLURWH_1L43ldVEc1_PsOuVM6RbQ&sig2=5Nl77G4JZkWNbCEmr3zgtA).

Normally I would suggest reinstalling windows to the PBR partition boot records with fixboot and reinstalling grub to the MBR, but that will overwrite the acer MBR. I am not sure how the acer mbr connects to either ubuntu or OpenSuse.

The reason you cannot boot the your recovery partition is that the openSuse installed a PBR of its own overwriting the windows boot and linking to partition 13. This may be the way you boot. Do you boot to the openSuse menu.lst?

I do not know the command to save a MBR to a file but I would do that and consider installing grub and using that since Ubuntu will see the recovery partition. Why do you even need the recovery partition? I thought that was just to create a CD or DVD to totally rewrite the hard drive to factory original.

Your Ubuntu menu.lst is totally customized. I would save it and force a new menu.lst to be written from scratch and copy back a few of the custom entries you need. I would also add a chainboot entry to openSuse and have Ubuntu's in charge but that is because I know Ubuntu more and know about nothing about openSuse.

presence1960
November 22nd, 2009, 11:43 PM
Presence usually sees things I do not but to get you started thiinking out several things.

I was not familiar with the acer boot but found this:
Acer ships itís laptops with a custom MBR (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Master_boot_record) and an hidden recovery partition. The code in the MBR can intercept the <Alt><F10> key combination if pressed during the early stage of the boot, more or less when there is the first Acer splashscreen displayed from the BIOS. This key combination let boot the hidden partition and this brings up the restore utility. This stuff is what constitutes the Restore system to factory default of the Acer eRecovery Management (http://www.google.it/url?sa=t&source=web&ct=res&cd=1&url=ftp%3A%2F%2Fftp.support.acer-euro.com%2Fdesktop%2Fempowering_technology%2FUser% 2520Guides%25202.0%2520-%25202.4%2FAcer%2520eRecovery%2520Management%2520e nglish.pdf&ei=cEkgSuq7GaCRjAeN-9HEBg&usg=AFQjCNGLURWH_1L43ldVEc1_PsOuVM6RbQ&sig2=5Nl77G4JZkWNbCEmr3zgtA).

Normally I would suggest reinstalling windows to the PBR partition boot records with fixboot and reinstalling grub to the MBR, but that will overwrite the acer MBR. I am not sure how the acer mbr connects to either ubuntu or OpenSuse.

The reason you cannot boot the your recovery partition is that the openSuse installed a PBR of its own overwriting the windows boot and linking to partition 13. This may be the way you boot. Do you boot to the openSuse menu.lst?

I do not know the command to save a MBR to a file but I would do that and consider installing grub and using that since Ubuntu will see the recovery partition. Why do you even need the recovery partition? I thought that was just to create a CD or DVD to totally rewrite the hard drive to factory original.

Your Ubuntu menu.lst is totally customized. I would save it and force a new menu.lst to be written from scratch and copy back a few of the custom entries you need. I would also add a chainboot entry to openSuse and have Ubuntu's in charge but that is because I know Ubuntu more and know about nothing about openSuse.

Unfortunately I must bow out of this one. I am not at all familiar with how that ACER MBR works, especially in relation to booting other OSs from it. If it were any other situation I could solve this, but I don't want to be responsible for overwriting your Acer MBR.

jrc27
November 28th, 2009, 05:02 PM
Ok, so I've pretty much given up on fixing the problem while keeping my system intact. I've backed up everything and I'm planning on wiping my entire system and then just installing Windows XP or Windows 7, so I'll only have 1 OS installed. I just wanted to make sure that either of the install cd's will install windows over all the partitions so that the whole hard drive is dedicated to windows (I know that the Ubuntu install cd can do this), or if there's anything I'd have to do before hand.

darkod
November 28th, 2009, 05:44 PM
This is not really a place to discuss windows installation but since you asked. :)
Yes, windows installer should allow you to delete all partitions regardless whether they were for windows or ubuntu. After you delete all of them, it's your choice entirely whether you want only one partition for the whole drive, or more.
Have in mind that if anything happens to windows and you have to reformat the system partition, that would be the whole drive if you only have one partition. I always have at least one more, and the data on it can remain intact during clean install on the system partition.