Google recommends Karmic as a prerequisite for Chrome OS!

[donniezazen]

Haha

http://www.chromium.org/chromium-os/building-chromium-os

What do you say?

[phrostbyte]

It's a stripped down version of Ubuntu so it's not surprising.

[blur xc]

Makes sense to me...

How do you compile an os w/o a running os and a compiler. And since it is a linux os, it makes sense to use another linux os with, I'd imagine, gcc to compile it.

As far as recommending Karmic vs other distros, I dunno. I've heard that Chrome OS is based on Debian linux, and Ubuntu is probably easier to install and run than Debian itself.

BM

[earthpigg]

meh.

i'd probably just do a CLI install, add openbox, and have chromium/ff start at login.

maybe we should toss together a "FirefoxBuntu" type remix, accordingly, to directly compete with Chrome OS?

[Sealbhach]

Anyone going to have a go at compiling it?

.

[blur xc]

I'm lazy and technically inept in this department- will anyone have a go at making an iso that I can easily install in Vbox? Or even better, a .vdi hard disk image...



BM

[dirtylobster]

I'm lazy and technically inept in this department- will anyone have a go at making an iso that I can easily install in Vbox? Or even better, a .vdi hard disk image...



BM

this

[PhoHammer]

i'm lazy and technically inept in this department- will anyone have a go at making an iso that i can easily install in vbox? Or even better, a .vdi hard disk image...



Bm

+1

[Regenweald]

Umm, where is this? Quote: " we are going back to the basics and completely redesigning the underlying security architecture of the OS so that users don't have to deal with viruses, malware and security updates. It should just work."

So they literally are just going to drop chromium atop Ubuntu ? Where is the 'new' windowing system ?

[Regenweald]

Haha

http://www.chromium.org/chromium-os/building-chromium-os

What do you say?

I say it is ****ing ridiculous.

[AlexR1]

What It Is
• It's basically just a browser: meaning that it'll be based around preexisting web services like Gmail, Google Docs, and so on. There are going to be no conventional applications, just web applications—nohting gets installed, updated, or whatever. Seriously.

• It only runs web apps: It's going to integrate web apps into the operating system deeper than we've ever seen before, meaning that a) they'll seem more like native apps than web apps and b) they'll be able to tap into local resources more than a typical web app in Firefox, for example. They're web apps in name, but they'll have native powers.

• How, exactly?: With HTML 5. This is the next version of HTML, which gives the browser more access to local resources like location info, offline storage—the kinds of things you'd normally associate with native apps. More on that here.

• Chrome is Chrome: The user's experience with Chrome OS will basically be synonymous with their experience on Chrome Browser. Technically speaking, Chrome OS is a Linux-based OS, but you won't be installing Linux binaries like you might on Ubuntu or some other Linux distribution. Any "apps" you have will be used within the browser. Chrome OS is effectively a new version of Chrome, that you can't leave. There are a few reasons Google's pushing this, which we'll get to in a bit.

• It looks like Chrome browser—specifically, like the leaked shots we saw before. As in a browser, you have tabs—these have to serve as a taskbar as well. To the left of the tabs, you have a sort of start menu, which opens up a panel full of shortcuts. These are your favorites. These are your apps. (Get used to this weird feeling, btw

• You can peg smaller windows, like chat windows or music players, to sit above your tabs at all times. This feature looks a lot like the Gchat feature in Gmail, which is to say, it's a box in the corner.

• Along with tabs, it's got its own version of virtual desktops. This means you can have multiple "windows" of Chrome OS to switch between, each of which is a different set of tabs. Think one desktop for work, one for play, on for porn, etc etc etc. It's a bit like using Spaces on Mac, except only with the browser.

And this is from Gizmodo website.

[Tibuda]

meh.

i'd probably just do a CLI install, add openbox, and have chromium/ff start at login.

maybe we should toss together a "FirefoxBuntu" type remix, accordingly, to directly compete with Chrome OS?

Or perhaps "Webuntu"

We don't even need Openbox. Just start Firefox at fullscreen without any WM. Just wicd or nm-applet and Firefox.


Where is the 'new' windowing system ?

Here is it: http://src.chromium.org/cgi-bin/gitweb.cgi?p=chromiumos.git;a=tree;f=src/platform/window_manager;hb=HEAD

[juancarlospaco]

A bootable browser, kinda old.

[Regenweald]

Or perhaps "Webuntu"

We don't even need Openbox. Just start Firefox at fullscreen without any WM. Just wicd or nm-applet and Firefox.



Here is it: http://src.chromium.org/cgi-bin/gitweb.cgi?p=chromiumos.git;a=tree;f=src/platform/window_manager;hb=HEAD

Thanks, I'll reserve my judgement yet again, because Chrome/Chromium OS is looking like nothing more than a browser.

[scorp123]

I say it is ****ing ridiculous. Maybe. But hey ... we're talking about Google. The story about their Chrome OS and them competing with Microsoft in the OS department now has gone around the world .... And what does Google use as basis? Ubuntu. Canonical can't get a better product placement than that.

The next CIO, CEO or C-anything-O telling me that "nobody is using Linux for anything serious" will have a few dozen printouts stuffed up their .... oh well ... let's just say: I can be "creative" :twisted:

[sledge73]

wasting computer power on it now. gonna be a long nite

[LowSky]

Thanks, I'll reserve my judgement yet again, because Chrome/Chromium OS is looking like nothing more than a browser.

That because that is all it is.

Google is putting there money into the idea that people need nothing more than acess to the world wide web. From tere you can use Google's other programs, like Docs, Gmail, Picaso, Maps, etc.

In in a way this would be great on something like a stripped down tablet PC or even an ebook.
It wouldn't need a hard drive in most cases, maybe just a small amount of flash memory, say 16GB.

Personally I hope it catches on, because it would mean that things like Java, Flash, maybe a few others would need to improve because of demand.
I would love a kindle sized device that ran on WIFI (and 3/4G Cellular Signal), and cost under $300. How cool would a touch screen device the size of a standard notebook that could run internet applications, work as an ebook, a sketch pad, and as a portable movie playing device.

[phrostbyte]

That because that is all it is.

Google is putting there money into the idea that people need nothing more than acess to the world wide web. From tere you can use Google's other programs, like Docs, Gmail, Picaso, Maps, etc.

In in a way this would be great on something like a stripped down tablet PC or even an ebook.
It wouldn't need a hard drive in most cases, maybe just a small amount of flash memory, say 16GB.

Personally I hope it catches on, because it would mean that things like Java, Flash, maybe a few others would need to improve because of demand.
I would love a kindle sized device that ran on WIFI (and 3/4G Cellular Signal), and cost under $300. How cool would a touch screen device the size of a standard notebook that could run internet applications, work as an ebook, a sketch pad, and as a portable movie playing device.

Well a web browser offers a lot of the same things an OS offers. A widget/layout engine, programming API, etc. So I don't think the idea of making a web browser into an OS outright is that absurd. Especially with the fact that Google has this thing called Native Client that lets you run pretty much anything inside of a web browser (securely).

[UbuWu]

Canonical is contributing engineering to Google under contract. In our discussions, Sundar Pichar and Linus Upson made it clear that they want , wherever feasible, to build on existing components and tools from the open source community without unnecessary re-invention.

http://blog.canonical.com/?p=294

[Regenweald]

That because that is all it is.

Google is putting there money into the idea that people need nothing more than acess to the world wide web. From tere you can use Google's other programs, like Docs, Gmail, Picaso, Maps, etc.

In in a way this would be great on something like a stripped down tablet PC or even an ebook.
It wouldn't need a hard drive in most cases, maybe just a small amount of flash memory, say 16GB.

Personally I hope it catches on, because it would mean that things like Java, Flash, maybe a few others would need to improve because of demand.
I would love a kindle sized device that ran on WIFI (and 3/4G Cellular Signal), and cost under $300. How cool would a touch screen device the size of a standard notebook that could run internet applications, work as an ebook, a sketch pad, and as a portable movie playing device.

The sad thing is, this could blow everything out of the water if you could interact with your hard drive. I love the Chromium interface and if i could watch HD video in one tab then jump to an openoffice document in another then go to my filesystem in another.... I would LOVE it.

But google's terms of service is not going to include : " If anything happens or if we change our policies, and you no longer want your data on our servers, we will burn it on some dvd's and send it you you"

useless to me.

[phrostbyte]

http://blog.canonical.com/?p=294

Yes, Chrome OS is a stripped down Ubuntu. They didn't hide the fact in the web cast. :)

[Tibuda]

But google's terms of service is not going to include : " If anything happens or if we change our policies, and you no longer want your data on our servers, we will burn it on some dvd's and send it you you"

http://www.dataliberation.org/

[Johnsie]

ChromeOS in Four Words

Massive Data Mining Operation...

It's going to be the biggest keylogger ever. in the UK it would probably be illegal for companies use this because all the data is stored by a 3rd party off site.

[Regenweald]

http://www.dataliberation.org/

I'm no conspiracy theorist, I use gmail, but I have to chuckle because I don't see the "and this is how long we are going to keep your data on your servers afterwards" link :P

The product is dandy, but ultimately the only people who will really be in charge of your data once you hand it over, is google. If you send me mail right now and I send it back to you and tell you that i deleted it, is it really gone ? or am I just making you feel better ?

[fela]

So chromium OS is just yet another Linux distro. Worse, yet another ubuntu-based Linux distro - nothing bad against Ubuntu btw, just saying there are too many distros that are just Ubuntu with different branding.

[phrostbyte]

So chromium OS is just yet another Linux distro. Worse, yet another ubuntu-based Linux distro - nothing bad against Ubuntu btw, just saying there are too many distros that are just Ubuntu with different branding.

this is not ubuntu with different branding :)

[aysiu]

Personally I hope it catches on, because it would mean that things like Java, Flash, maybe a few others would need to improve because of demand.
I would love a kindle sized device that ran on WIFI (and 3/4G Cellular Signal), and cost under $300. How cool would a touch screen device the size of a standard notebook that could run internet applications, work as an ebook, a sketch pad, and as a portable movie playing device. You mean like the Barnes and Noble Nook?
http://www.barnesandnoble.com/nook/

It's US$259 and runs Android.

[Regenweald]

this is not ubuntu with different branding :)
Decidedly not :P. Ahh well, As long as they don't kill plain old Chromium-browser for linux, I'm good.

[Cuddles McKitten]

Oh goodie! This means we should get hordes of clueless posters asking painfully basic questions just so they can compile their new Google toy and ditch Ubuntu.

[celticbhoy]

Meant to run on mobiles too, as there is no need for local computing.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0QRO3gKj3qw&feature=player_embedded#

[blur xc]

Oh goodie! This means we should get hordes of clueless posters asking painfully basic questions just so they can compile their new Google toy and ditch Ubuntu.

Acording to the webcast, Chromium OS is not meant to be a replacement for a traditional desktop os.


BM

[johnb820]

Google is betting on the pc market separating into a stagnated every day consumers market revolving around the internet with zero progress, and the hobbyist market demanding more powerful hardware. I hope it fails on them miserably.

[stmiller]

vmware image here

http://thepiratebay.org/torrent/5170843/chromeos-image-999.999.32309.211410-a1.vmdk.bz2

[damis648]

Building now... can't wait to test it out in a VM :-D

[jocheem67]

Google is the only company to ever fight MS's hegemony in the OS-market. That they try to do this whilst taking chances on how the future will look like, is something I admire.
This won't be for everyone -- in the beginning -- but might vry well be the start of a revolution.
I feel that the cloud is coming. And Google might just be the company to push it ahead...

Heck, MS and Apple won 't be the ones to start this (r)evolution.

[NormanFLinux]

Mark Shuttleworth must be smiling. It confirms Ubuntu as the Gorilla of the Linux world. Fast, stable and user-friendly. Why reinvent the wheel again?

[NormanFLinux]

The *buntu base works. Its true, tested and tried. Even the BEOS port to Linux IS *buntu based. Not too surprising Google is borrowing heavily from it. It saves a lot of time.

[blur xc]

vmware image here

http://thepiratebay.org/torrent/5170843/chromeos-image-999.999.32309.211410-a1.vmdk.bz2

Is there any way to install guest additions (Vbox)?

Thanks,
BM

[Tibuda]

Is there any way to install guest additions (Vbox)?

Thanks,
BM

I don't think you can install anything on Chrome OS. I have heard the root partition is read-only even for the root user.